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Announcer:
Welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. The three keys to your success is just moments away. Here's your host, Brian Kelly.
Brian Kelly:
Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. I'm going to tell you right now, this is going to be one of the most fantastic shows we have done to date. And we've been running for going on two years. And the reason I say that is because I don't have just one guest expert. None. Not not even just two guests. Experts. I lost count, actually, two, four, six, eight. We have nine guest experts that are here with me right now waiting to come on and share their brilliance with you. And I'm just so unbelievably blessed to have wonderful people like this to jump on. This was a last minute request. As of yesterday, I had a guest who canceled last minute and these wonderful people stepped in. And so they are all users of a phenomenal studio software that I'm using right now. We will talk about that. And that is why I brought them in, because I wanted to talk about all things. Live streaming tonight. And this group we were just talking right before went live in. That's some phenomenal topics to cover. And so we want to help you to get through this situation and then to expand your business through life, streaming well into the future, because I'm here to tell you, it's it's here to stay. It's been here for a while now. There is going nowhere, just like podcasting, an audio only. I never thought that would last. And now it's back with a big vengeance. And this was well before the pandemic hit. So there we are in great times when it comes to technology. And we as a group tonight are here to help you. Real quick. The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show that is literally a show by entrepreneurs for entrepreneurs. We are here for you to help you to learn the secrets to success. And traditionally, I interview guests from all over the world. Successful entrepreneurs who share their secrets, quote unquote, for success. And tonight is no different. We have an amazing, amazing group of people, some with a lot of experiences in life streaming, some who have started recently. Yet have really mastered it in a short order because of need. And I think that is phenomenal. So, yes, please come in. Comment. Love, like interact. Ask questions as we go forward. It is going to be a rock and show. This is a much shortened intro because we are going to bring on all of our special guest experts a few at a time. So get ready. Here we go.
Announcer:
It's time for the guest expert spotlight, savvy, skillful, professional, adept, trained, big league qualified.
Brian Kelly:
And there they are, ladies and gentlemen. Almost everybody is here. We are going to go real quick. We're going to do speed intro here so we can get into the juice. This is a one hour show. Stick with us. Stay with us at the end, by the way. I don't want to forget to stick around to the very end because you can win a five nights stay at a five star luxury resort if you stay online to the end. We will show you exactly how to do that. Very simple. But you must be here when that announcement is made. That doesn't mean run away and come back later, because I may cut it short just because now I won't do that. All right. Let's go around the horn real fast. Speed intro. Sarah Nicolas, the amazing, young, incredible mom.
Sarah Nicolas:
Oh no I'm not a mom. I'm an aunt.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, that giraffe was someone elses. OK, an inside joke from earlier. Sarah. Go ahead. Introduce yourself, if you would, real quick and tell us what you do.
Sarah Nicolas:
I'm Sarah Nicolas. I write books for teens under the name Sarah Nicolas and they also write romance books under the name Aria Kane. And I am on the board of directors for a literary nonprofit called Pitch Wars, which mentors young and upcoming writers. And I was also the lead video producer for Everywhere Bookfest. And I run my own publishing talk show called Pub Talk Live. That's the second and fourth Saturday of every month.
Brian Kelly:
I'm really curious what you do with all that spare time.
Sarah Nicolas:
Sleep.
Brian Kelly:
Phenomenal. That's phenomenal. Thank you so much, Sarah. Mister Shane Trammel, you are up next.
Shane Trammel:
Yeah. Yeah. Good afternoon. Good evening, everyone. Shane here did a lot of different things. I kind of have a day job and then I have my hustle's that I do is is a lot of people say so I am a supply chain expert. And of course, right now that's that's a big thing with Covid19, not teen and all that's going on. And I help small businesses market their businesses, help them with livestream, which we're going to talk about a lot tonight. So I'm just happy to be here on the show. Looking forward to bringing some value to the audience.
Brian Kelly:
Fantastic. Thank you, Mr. Trammel. And Joseph.
Joseph Jaffe:
Hello. I'm not. Yeah, I'm happy to. I'm happy to be here. I'm an author. My latest book is called Built To Suck - The Inevitable Demise of the Corporation and how to Save It. And yesterday, I won an award. I won best in category and current events for the Independent Book Awards. I was pretty chuffed about that. I am the admiral at the HMS Beagle, which is a consultancy and I'm the host of Corona TV.
Brian Kelly:
Wow. Did you say Built to Suck?.
Joseph Jaffe:
Built to Suck.
Brian Kelly:
That is a pretty cool title because there's Built to Sell. I love it. Nice. Nice. All right. My geek brother, Justin James.
Justin James:
Hey Brian, I'm Justin James. I'm the founder and the chief nerd. Let your nerd be heard. We actually take YouTube and turn it into a marketing engine for your business. I'm also the co-host of the Let Your Nerd Be Heard show you find on YouTube. You can find it on all the podcasts networks as well. I also am part of an organization that's a nonprofit where we give back to other non-profits through software development, creative stuff like graphics. And that's the ArizonaGiveCamp.org. Couple of times a year we won run weekend long events. We bring a whole bunch of people together to give back to nonprofits they typically can't afford software development and graphic design and copywriters. And we give back to that. We can totally free for them, totally free for us to participate in as well. Easygiftcamp.org.
Brian Kelly:
All right.Thank you so much, Mr. James. All right. Tom Brown, please introduce yourself.
Tom Brown:
Well, good evening, everybody out there in digital land, Tom Brown. I'm with Media Barker. I specialize in digital marketing, which is pretty much anything nowadays. My focus for most of my clients is helping them create a strategy because most people come saying, I want a thousand Facebook likes and I'm like, great. What do you want to do with it? And they're clueless. So, you know, giving them a strategy that actually gets them results, usually dollars in the wallet. Sometimes it's amazing how much you have to drag people into success with this kind of stuff. I also very active in non-profits. I'm on a couple of boards and i work with the Elmira Rotary Club. I'm a Rotarian. It's a wonderful organization, international right now.
Brian Kelly:
And you happen to be part of a charitable organization doing things for charity. Yeah, is that correct.
Tom Brown:
Well,actually we've got an event coming this Saturday, The Elmira Beer Fest, and we're doing a virtual beer fast as a fund raiser to help three different organizations that are feeding the community. And so they are putting out between the three of them about eight hundred meals a day. No charge. And so their budgets is starting to be hit. So doing a beer fest virtually seemed like a fun thing to do.
Brian Kelly:
That sounds cool. I've never had a virtual beer before though, that It'll be interesting. All right. We're going to going to rotate the dial here and bring in some more folks and introduce them, here we go. Give me just a moment. This is pretty fun watching by move around. And Brian, if you have camera on, go ahead and bring it back on or bring in your. Oh, what time? This guy is right on it. Let's take Erin MacCoy.
Erin MacCoy:
Hello. Hello, Brian. Thanks for having me on. So excited to be here.
Brian Kelly:
Thank you for coming on. All of you. Every one of you. So who are you? We know your name. What you do. And tell us what's going on in Erin's world.
Erin MacCoy:
So my name is Erin MacCoy. I'm a branding coach and marketing strategist who works with inspired, gifted but struggling female entrepreneurs to get results faster in their business. And I've been doing that now for almost 10 years. And you can catch me on Facebook doing Monday Marketing Minutes Live. That's how I got my first first streaming experience. So I'm super excited to be here and share value to your audience.
Brian Kelly:
Now, men are already doing it. Thank you so much for coming on. Jennifer Szunko.
Jennifer Szunko:
Hey, Brian. Thank you for having me. And I'm Jennifer Szunko, I'm the executive director of T.C. New Tech based in Traverse City.
Jennifer Szunko:
And every month, the last five years, we put on a pitch event at a local venue, have a couple hundred people that show up and we have investors, we have startups, we have entrepreneurs ,we have people interested in I.T. We have people looking for work. And we select five entrepreneurs to get up and pitch their idea and we have the audience votes on one to win five hundred dollars. And hopefully we can connect these startups with the investors in our audience too.
Brian Kelly:
How did we get sure you are all for that. I don't recall.
Jennifer Szunko:
Yeah, It's TCNewTech.org
Brian Kelly:
Thank you for reminding me.
Jennifer Szunko:
It's free to apply and if you're selected, it's free to present. And it's always been a local event until the world was shut down in the end of March. So this is how I came to be involved in light streaming.
Brian Kelly:
Right, and local from Michigan area. And by the way, you guys from all over the place, we might get into that later. I love the fact that you're helping startups because now more than ever, they're struggling. As I was saying before, we came on live dealing with two of them right now. And luckily, they're still making it through this tough time. And what you're doing, I'm sure, is phenomenal. And it's going to help a lot of people to do the same. So I appreciate that. Yeah, it's exciting. And then the man with the hair, my brother, by another mother, Brian Ridgway.
Brian Ridgway:
Hey, Hello. Thank you for having me on, Brian. I'm really excited to contribute. Hi, everybody, my name is Brian Ridgway. My friends and clients call me the spell breaker. I'm probably the weirdest out of the presenters today. I don't know that's a dubious honor or what. But I was involved in self-help. My my life really was just suffering after a really rough childhood. So I spent my life on a self-help journey only to find out that I had a really strange gift. So what I do, I call my company Level five mentoring. I accidentally became a best selling author and a few other things. I help people who are ready to end their entire self-help journey and actually cut the crap and admit that they are an infinite being and they're ready to step in and actually live it. So I work with entrepreneurs, experts, leaders, therapists, psychologists and people that just want to step into the best possible life. And I've been live streaming for about nine years.
Brian Kelly:
And i love it. You know, I met you a couple of years ago. I think it was on a marketers cruise out of Nashville. Was that out of Louisiana, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny you you talk about being the weird one, but when I talked to you in person and just now listening to there's nothing weird about you or your brother and thank you for coming on and for sharing your wisdom tonight. And back then as well. Great to see you again, my buddy.
Brian Ridgway:
Yeah, I'm grateful, reconnected with you, man.
Brian Ridgway:
Yeah,Yeah. All right. And all the way from Hawaii, by the way. All right. Marisa.
Marisa Cali:
Hi, everyone. Hi, Brian. Thank you for having me. I am a marketing specialist. I help businesses establish and maintain their online credibility. I'm also a huge sports fan, so I got into live streaming by doing the video podcasts. And now I help sports media professionals with their credibility using LinkedIn and live streaming and showcasing their expertise to the world outside of just sports fans so?
Brian Kelly:
Wow. I think I want to talk to you later. I am. Oh, my gosh. As a kid, sports was my life. It's not anymore. But I still. Still near and dear. Oh, my goodness. Thank you all for coming on. We're going to flip it back to the original Brady Bunch here in just a minute. We'll start getting with it on all things live streaming. So just one moment. I remember I left off here. This is actually quite fun. I think that's it. Do we have the reference group now? I missed one. There we go. All right. Let's go to a square. It's like juggling some dice and see what numbers come out. It's pretty fun. So, all right, let's get this thing going. So we're all using a certain platform. And I've used many over the years. I've done I've been life streaming for a grand total of about four years or so. Not for your solid. I did two years some time ago when Facebook Live didn't exist. Periscope didn't even exist at that time, which was one of the first social media based platforms. It was U-stream and live-stream were the only two in existence that we knew of at the time. And we'd like to bring back then for actually two years then and did a lot of shows and had a lot of fun. Those a lot of technical, interesting moments. And now fast forward, I've used many different software platforms, some that run on the computer, some that are running off of a Web browser like the one we're doing right now. And I've got to tell you, I have not seen any nearly as good as this one. There are certain things that they are working on that still can be improved. But I made the decision to switch wholeheartedly to this platform. And I want to get all of your guys his take on this platform, what it's meant for you, how it's enabled you to do what you do. Let's start with Sarah, who has been doing live streaming for some time now. She's a bit of an expert in her own right. What do you think of this amazing platform we're on? And do you recommend that others use the same thing?
Sarah Nicolas:
Oh, yeah, I well, I actually have. So I started live streaming with pictures. We do these mentor chats where our writers can ask us questions and we used to do it on Google Hangouts. When getting Google Hangouts, you select your broadcast. And then when I was looking for a new solution last spring, I came up on Stream Yard and I used it for that. And and actually, it's kind of what inspired my show. Like, I decided to do the show after using streaming art for the charts. And I've convinced a lot of different organizations to use it as well. So I'm an event planner for a library and I convinced them to do it. And so we're using it now for virtual programs. You know, libraries are switching over to virtual programs right now. And everywhere book fast, which I mentioned earlier, I was the one who actually branching into them and showed them how they can use it. And they fell in love with that as well. And several different people have started using it because I recommend it so much. I just love how easy it is to use. Like even if you're not super tech savvy, you can still make a pretty good show of stream Yard.
Brian Kelly:
Totally, totally agree. And Shane is nodding emphatically in agreement. So, Shane, what's your take? What do you think about.
Shane Trammel:
I agree you know, back in the day of Periscope, I never really used it. But of course, I participated in some of them and that had its challenges. And I actually downloaded Stream Labs and started looking at that. And although it has a lot of capabilities that I would say that it has a learning curve. And so for the average person in a room, maybe not the so average person, I think got string artists, just amazing. And literally have not been using stream yard more than three weeks and had a non-profit organization come up to me and say, hey, Shane, can you produce this virtual basically concert with six different musicians and with, you know, different businesses sponsoring them? So we put we produce that show. I ran that for three hours, had one hiccup that was based on the Internet. A problem with the Internet in the downtown city that we were in. But it ran flawlessly. And I don't know what to look at. Thing else right now, it's just amazing. Yeah, I totally get it, and I'll just say one other thing like it was already mentioned. I'm starting to show a lot of people how to use this and the fact that there's a free version of this, you know, and we talk about value or that's what this show is about. Among the many things that it's about tremendous value that you can use that for free and learn it, learn how to use it and.Yeah, it's great.
Brian Kelly:
And the guys I call them, the kids behind it that are running this whole thing that started this company that developed this, they are amazing. They're little geniuses in my mind and my eye. Andrew Poletto, I know this man personally. We were both. I was in the fitness industry. He still is. And he just started using it and loves it. Of course you do. And then Bess has giving that, Sarah a Woo woo woo single woo.
Sarah Nicolas:
That's Co-hosts to some of my shows, I think.
Brian Kelly:
One of our guests, David Chapman. Oh, is this the same person? Yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. We got a ringer. This is awesome. Live streaming inception. All right. We're having fun. As you can tell, we love to have fun. It's okay to have fun. And speaking of fun, the next person in line is Joseph Jaffe. Tell us, what's your take on Stream Yard thus far?
Joseph Jaffe:
Well, first of all, you know, I'm in the zombie bunker and I've got Lucille with me just in case the zombies come out. So, you know, stream Yard allows me to do that, it allows me to be in the bunker. But, you know, it's been a great learning curve for me. I only started last month and I started on Zoom and it was good. It was interesting. But once I started streaming on or wanted to stream live on LinkedIn, it became a no brainer. And I agree with my fellow panelists stream Yard, It's just been an absolute dream. Very intuitive. And it allows someone who's a newbie, quite frankly, to put out a show that looks pretty professional. So it's been a great ride. And of course, they're innovating all the time.
Brian Kelly:
I think you hit the nail on the head with professional part, because that is definitely the case here. And now my tech geek brother Justin, and we're going to go through every person on every question. We don't have time to do that. Just so you know, you're sweating in the back. I think not. I don't know if I'm going to save this one. But Justin, we'll finalize it with Tom here and then we'll move on to the next topic. And by the way, just cause I'm running the show, I will take those suggestions and recommendations. I've got some written down that we can go into. And for those you watching live or yeah just life, you can put in a comment to say, hey, what about this? What about this? When it comes to life streaming Don Hoperich. Oh, thank you. My buddy Hoperich he's a phenomenal local man, businessman here where I live. Thank you, Don. I'll take that any day, all day. So, We're over to Justin. What is your experience been thus far with Stream Yard? And how much have you used it so far?
Justin James:
So the experience of Stream Yard has been fantastic. And I've recommended all the time to clients. The majority of people I work with are entrepreneurs that want to be seen, but they have video anxiety, the other tech anxiety. You run it. They're not even sure how to get started. Then I show Stream yard they go Oh, this is totally understandable. All through the browser, you really hooked your camera, hooked your microphone up to your computer and it just magically works. You want to throw the overlays like Brian has up here right now. You really create the graphic. Click a button and you really magically shows up. You don't even have to know how to make it work. You have to know how to actually upload the image and click a button. Can't be any easier than that. And it's super easy to bring in guests like Brian's doing. So on my show. My co-host is actually in Vancouver, Canada, and I'm in Phoenix, Arizona. We've literally just connected the stream Yard and it just works. No tech failures, no having to worry about how any of that stuff set up. Anybody can run a Stream Yard live-stream and not have to worry about their tech any longer.
Brian Kelly:
I totally agree. I mean, you and I go back with the OBS and the I had done expert as well, which is similar. And it's night and day. The ease of use and plug and play is basically what it is. You're right. Know, speaking of you and someone from Vancouver, so we have Tom Brown is from New York. Josh Shane is from Texas. And we have Sarah from Florida, who is off camera at the moment. I believe she's there. She moved. I moved her. And Justin is from Phoenix, Arizona. Joseph is from Connecticut all over the US. We almost had one from Britain, but it didn't work out from the UK. We got Erin from Washington who is not on at the moment. They're coming soon, Erin don't worry. Jennifer from Michigan and Marissa from San Diego. Yes, Southern Cal. I love it. And Brian Ridgway from Hawaii, I love Hawaii too. So it's that easy. And you guys had never been on this show before. You'd never click the link to come onto my stream Yard video before. Was it a simple process coming on? Tom, what are your thoughts on stream Yard?
Tom Brown:
Well, I've only been using it for about two months. We've been using Mevo to stream straight to Facebook and Vimeo. And I've been sort of happy with it. But this is so much better. We immediately started using stream-Yard for the last four episodes and everybody that's been watching the church has been loving it. It's been so easy to bring different people into the worship team is on one screen. The pastors on another. And we can just go and stream to different things. We turned on YouTube because that ability now exists and we have some people watching on YouTube. It's just been so phenomenally easy to bring different things. And that's what kind of brought up the beer fast idea is like if we can do this for the church, I can do it elsewhere. And so it was my bright idea. We're gonna be doing it with Zoom, some i'm going to actually bring in zoom in as a guest as part of the beer fast thing. So a lot of people are buying Zoom tickets. They're going to do the Zoom meeting and then come in using the power of stream-yard. It's gonna be quite fun.
Brian Kelly:
Cool and before I bring in the other guests. I wanted to do a quick around the horn before I forget and ask each of you, starting with Sarah, roughly how long have you been, like, streaming from beginning to end? It doesn't have to be with stream-yard.
Sarah Nicolas:
I mean, we've been livestreaming since last spring, but I did on and off before, but someone else is like running the show. I was just answering questions.
Brian Kelly:
So about a year. OK and Shane?
Shane Trammel:
I've been doing Facebook live for the last couple of years and streamYard for about a month. So I'm new to StreamYard, but live streaming for about two years.
Brian Kelly:
Sounds sweet, Joseph?
Joseph Jaffe:
I started last month, but that's only because they told me I had a face for radio. And so I've decided to prove them wrong. So I'm the newbie.
Brian Kelly:
I love it. And I got to say. So you just started and you can hardly tell. But he's got a green screen back there and he's got a different image. And that's another thing that you can do, a streaming art and I've Oh, my God. I've toiled away trying to get the settings right on OBS Xsplit all the other platforms that I've use. Even Zoom does not look as good as the green screen here on. You're messing with me on here on streamYard. You know, Tom's making me thirsty again with those nuts that brew behind him. And it's a phenomenal, phenomenal tool all right. And, you know, we're not getting paid to talk about streamYard. But you know what? It needs to be shouted from the rooftops because so many people could benefit from this in helping them with their respective business, their charitable organizations, churches, you name it. It's phenomenal. Justin, how long for you, my buddy?
Justin James:
It's been a couple years that I've been playing with it. And I've mainly helped other streamers actually get started. And then in January, we actually watched our show using streamYard. I was kind of what we on New Year's Eve, me and my co-host recorded our first episode and wants to end on January 1st.
Brian Kelly:
Amazing, amazing and Tom?
Tom Brown:
I've actually been doing webinars for about 10, 12 years on anything from digital marketing emails and all that other stuff. And so this was just a natural transition to make it like this. It's almost a webinar, but it's much more interactive. I love it.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, totally, totally. All right. We're going to switch over and do the juggle. Here we go. Ready? You'll be back. Don't worry. This time since we brought you on a little late this time, we'll leave you up there, Joseph. So, Erin MacCoy, welcome back. I know you never left, but now you're on camera. So we had several questions to go over. What would most intrigue you to learn having started? Not a whole long time ago, Erin. What's one thing that is really burning a question for you that you would like the panel to maybe address and answer?
Erin MacCoy:
Oh, my gosh. Well, I'm new to stream yard. A colleague of mine, We've been collaborating on a show weekly now since the Covid came about. So I guess best practices are what I'm looking for. I've been doing Facebook lives for three years on my own, you know, and I'm fairly comfortable on video, but, you know, the whole collaborative space sharing. I think that a lot of people could benefit from understanding from season streamers. You know, what are some best practices in using the platform for sure. And, you know, it's not an advertisement for this particular platform. But in general, you know, as we move forward, what are some things new people should be thinking about and doing?
Totally. Yeah. I mean, there's so many topics that can be covered on that one question. But there are a lot. But for me and I'll just start it off and the rest can trim in, one of the biggest things for me was making it of supreme quality, the highest quality you can muster given your resources. So I'm not saying you have to go out and spend thousands of dollars on the top end equipment. Just do what you can within your budget, but make it the highest absolute quality you can get great graphics to go around it. Graphics are just part of it. Lighting doesn't cost that much anymore. Microphones don't cost that much anymore. You can get nice USB mics that are studio quality. I have a C930E Logitech webcam that is phenomenal. It's very clear you don't need a DSL or canon or whatever a camera for your lives. It would be nice, but you don't need it. But you know, best practices for me are? Oh great Joseph, I love this guy. Great graphics are just part of it, for men it's all about quality because how many times have you seen it by that phone? And you could tell her shaking and there's wind blowing, you know, have your environment secluded. I have blackout curtains in my studio so that when it's sunny or when it's dark, it looks the same in here. So my lighting doesn't vary, little things like that. So who else wants to chime in on that? That's been around the block. Like, I don't know. I'm not going to point anyone out like Mr. Ridgeway. Who's that? And then Marissa will be next.
Brian Ridgway:
Yeah, I'm with you a 100 percent on the quality thing with a good camera to see this people that have great video and audio quality is really amazing at one time. But that's our topic today Right?. So lighting camera, a really high quality audio as clean as you can get. And you can do that cheaply these days. Another really big deal for best practice to me is really driving the highest possible engagement and really communicating and connecting with your audience,I do. I use live streaming also. I started webinars like Tom about 10 years ago, nine years ago. I've done everything from live sessions with clients on live video to conferences where I was working with hundreds of people at one time, basically live events, too. I do all of my group programs now using either Zoom for just a couple other reasons. All those are moving everything to stream Yard. This is just the way to go. But when you're working with a public broadcast, really engaging, really connecting, finding out what people are wanting. I can have, you know, 100 people on during a alive and have literally hundreds of comments and hundreds of engagement factors. You'll get so much more value to your people and you'll get so many more later views. I think really focusing on engagement is an area where a lot of people miss it and can really leverage it to the man.
Brian Kelly:
I was engaged in the private chat going on in the back because we did have some background noise. And here's the thing. We got a bunch of pros on this show and people in private chat saying, hey, I hear somebody make a noise in the background and get the right person muted, I think, and it took care of it. So that's the thing to deal with as well. Your suppose to be flexible and go with the flow one. One method I learned from speaking from stage is when there's something that's out there that might be distracting. It's literally incorporated into your talk, you know. So if someone were to slam a door and you could say as the next door opens for like that, it's just everyone, everyone hears it. There's no doubt. Right. But if you read it, it softens a blow and get them back in what we call state and moving forward on the topic at hand.
Joseph Jaffe:
And I would add, you know, even though I'm new to streaming. I've been blogging. I've been podcasting. I've been writing. I've been speaking for 20 plus years. Find your authentic voice. That's the first thing. And then the second thing is, if you're in it for the long haul, then just put your head down and realize that your superpower is endurance. Don't worry about the numbers. Don't worry about how many people. Facebook says all are watching at any point in time. The long tail is gonna kick in. You know, if you're in it for the right reasons and if you're in it for the long haul, you know, just focus on the quality content, focus on the integrity of the content, focus on meaningful relationships and connections with your audience and everything will take care of itself.
Brian Kelly:
Totally concur, even with the guy looking over your shoulder right now. Joseph, I go through that because here's one thing. Gosh, LOEWS, I forgot his first name. You remember what I'm talking about, something loews L.O.E W.S. I think he's big in the entrepreneur space, former athlete. He made a statement in an interview that I watched some time ago. It was very telling ,so they were talking about podcasting, traditional podcasting with just audio only, but it's pertinent. And the interviewer asked him, well, what's one thing you would tell anyone who is just starting out? And I loved his answer. He said, well, if you're not going to commit for at least two years, then don't even start. And I almost fell out of my chair in being of thankfulness because it is so true. It took nearly two years to gain traction with this live show. And now I'm getting clients coming left and right. But it took it took a lot of empty lives. There were one and two life years. There were hardly any watching at the end. I just kept going. And it's perseverance. Like you said, Joseph, thank you for that. Definitely stick to it. Don't just started as a hobby. This is not a hobby. Yes. But don't do it if you're going to do it as a hobby. That's OK. You can do it as a hobby. But if it's for your business, don't treat it as a hobby. This is part of your business. And stick with it.
Jennifer Szunko:
You know, I think another thing that is important that you do really well, Brian, is being very organized in advance and going through a run of show and great communication with your guests so that they know what they're what's expected of them and what they can expect when they get into that program. So I do a run of show before our event so that my co-host knows what slides are coming up a little bit about everybody that's coming on to pitch and the timing of everything. So then we communicate really well to our guests that are selected to pitch as well.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I run a show. I'm guessing you mean like setting expectations. This is the order in which things will happen. So prizes and I've got an idea what's going to happen, that kind of thing.Yeah. This one for our non.Yeah.
Marisa Cali:
I think I just want to add on to that because I feel like, you know, being on for, you know, if you're on in it for two years, a lot of people will not start because they think that they have to do it for two years. And I think that you should also give yourself a little bit of grace if it's not perfect from the beginning. And I think that's it depends on how you learn. Like, I can watch a video, how to do everything from A to Z, but if I don't actually do it, I'm never gonna learn. That's my learning style. But other people learn differently Right?. So, like, if you're thinking about doing live streaming. Think about what you're going to deliver. Like what Joseph said, like, are you focusing on what your goal is in terms of delivering the content and its content that's gonna live on YouTube or Facebook or whatever? Or are you focusing on how many people are watching? Because if you're going to focus on how many people are watching, well, there's other factors. What's your strategy behind promoting it? Who's the guest? Are you sharing the information to them? Like there's so many other things? I think that if you are focusing on delivering the energy that you have, then it will succeed as long as you give yourself grace.
Brian Kelly:
That is impeccable advice. And I would say for anyone who's just starting, who has not yet done it or just kind of dabbled in it, is follow what Marisa just said and do it with your phone shaking in the wind. Just do it. Get started. Yeah. Whatever it takes. Don't wait. Don't. Don't wait for perfection. Because guess what? None of us are perfect. I've been doing this for four years. Brian's been doing web webinars and done online for ten. Have you got it now? Brian, you're absolutely perfect, right? No way. Right? So be OK with not being perfect, because you will never be. You'll never be. And that's great. We're human beings. People will actually i can't think the right word attach, not attach. But they will be more congruent with you. They will really be in alignment with you if they see that you're another human being and you're not perfect. They say Well, I can do that. You want to the qualities that resonate with you. Well, like I said, is have as much quality as you can absorb. I mean, as far as financial resources, time and everything else, do the best you possibly can with what you have. And when I make money in my company, I reinvest in my equipment all the time, all the time, I'm always upgrading. I have two massive 38inch curb monitors in front of me one on top the other, I just got the second one recently. It's just always moving up, raising the bar. You know what? To start that way. Just start. Thank you, Marissa. Great advice. Who else do we have?. I think we should bring back our friends back from behind the green curtain. I hate to get rid of Joseph, though. I love his background or something awesome. But. All right, here we go. The juggle. We'll have one more of you up for a little bit. I hope I do this fairly throughout. We'll juggle it. See how they come up, all that different order. That's cool, except for Tom, he's always down there, the beer man. All right. Hold them up. So thank you, Erin, for that question. Let's see who else. Let's see. What do we have, Shane? Change just starting out with a stream yard. Let's see. What else would you like to know more about Shane? Just as a video like video streamer. If you could think of one thing that you really would love to hone down or know the answer to, what would it be?
Shane Trammel:
Yeah, I think one of them is maybe or maybe there's no single answer. But, you know, some sense of an optimal link for a livestream. I realize it may depend on your audience or your subject. You know, again, I did a three hour fundraiser, but that's a little bit different. But, yeah, I'd like to have some discussion about a optimal link for a livestream video that we're good. Don't go too long. That people just start dropping or too short. And, you know, you don't get the momentum.
Brian Kelly:
And I think and everyone please chime in as well. But I think that is a very subjective. It's gonna be case by case, It's going to matter what your content is? It's going to also matter if you have guests on and what their pull is? Are they influencers or not? There's a lot of factors that go into it. I would start personally minimum of 30 minutes. I went I came out of the chute doing an hour and you learn more as a video streamer, a life streamer faster because you have more things to deal with. It's an hour long. For me personally, I've had many people saying, Brian, an hour's too long and I get that. But that's my format. I'm sticking with it. And because I stuck with it this long is beginning to get the traction that I've been looking for. So who else who else wants to chime in on that as an answer? Justin.
Justin James:
So I typically don't even look at timelines and frames. It's more about the value in what you want to provide back to the audience. So as long as it needs to be in order to provide that value and no longer, that takes you 20 minutes typically to provide that 20 minute episodes don't go 40 minutes and just ramble for 20 because you set a time. It's all about the value that you want to put back to the audience. And that really does determine the length ultimately.
Brian Kelly:
Justin thank you. You're my new best friend, buddy. Go ahead, Sarah.
Sarah Nicolas:
I definitely think it depends on your audience, your content. I think for anything that's like entertainment based, it's not necessarily, you know, information base. Forty minutes is probably a maxim. That's just because that's the way TV has trained us. That's how long, you know, TV trained us to hold our attention for it. But if you're doing something that's like kind of more instructive or informational, I think up to an hour is good. Once you go past an hour, I feel like you really start losing people. People really start paying attention, they drop off. And also, if you have different segments, you can go for a longer too. So if it's just me talking to the camera like this, you're not going to sit there for an hour. I'll do that. But if the visuals are changing or if who's on screen is changing all that kind of stuff, then people will watch longer.
Erin MacCoy:
I agree with that. And in the case for my lives, when I was doing them by myself, they were called Monday Marketing Minute. And so my audiences want a quick marketing tip and they want to get it into their plan for the day and they want to go. So literally, it was like one or two minutes. And then now in a different sphere. You know, three years later, my colleague and I are having guests on our show where we're talking to small business owners on how to pivot during Covin19. We're taking a little bit more time to let them tell their story and to let them ask the questions and making it way more about what they need and what they want than what any timelines that we've set up. So that's been, I think, really valuable for business owners that we're working with right now.
Tom Brown:
The other thing to keep in mind is not all your content is going to be live. I mean, you're producing at Livestream, but then you can come back to it and people will watch it in segments. So you could say that at the end, it's very important that you put on the bottom in the text what is in this particular stream. So you could say at 12 minutes where you have this and it's 18 minutes is this. And so people can jump to what they're looking for at the very end. So back to what I believe it was Shane said, you don't want to babble. As long as you get your data out, your information out, you are respecting your viewers time. And if you start streaming on, if it takes 20 minutes to explain something, then just be concise. So it takes three, then that's fine. Then you jump to the next one.
Brian Kelly:
That was a very concise explanation there, Tom. Good job.
Justin James:
Brian could expand a little bit on you may input into it my brother. So Tom mentioned re-purposing some of that content trend or putting that table of contents in there as well. You could actually, after you my streaming chopped that video up through each of those segments. Each question could become its own video. Then you get titles, descriptions, all the SEO that goes with different thumbnails so people can actually watch just a portion they're truly interested in. And if they want to see the rest, you can drive them in the descriptions on YouTube to where the bigger video is. People watch those little bits and it's easier from to find it than to go, Hey, this is our Livestream Episode 10. Well, that's great. But if I have one video on this, as we answered what software you need to watch just that one video.
Brian Kelly:
So I have a resource for everyone watching. That will blow your mind. I'm going to be as brief as I can because I know I want to bring back the others. I wish we could have everybody on it once, this is awesome. And you are all phenomenal I cannot thank you enough at the value and your answering questions here. You're provoking thoughts in my brain that haven't been exercised in a long time and I appreciate that. But this one resource does exactly what you just said. Justin, it's called lately because the name of it and what it does is it comes at a cost believe me. But you can make a video, a resulting recorded video of your show uploaded to this service. It will automatically, in the background, transcribe it. It will use AI that's a very overly used term at the moment but the way they're using it. I think it truly is A.I. artificial intelligence, because it transcribes the word. It can use those words and then it goes and searches all the social media platforms, you're talking about all them Facebook linked and the big ones looking for the trending topics and the hashtags, everything, you name it, comparing it to the keywords and the buzzwords in your show, extracting 15 second snippets. It gets better. It auto does this and chops it up into multiple pieces. And it also cuts the video in the beginning of the end and gives the video piece with the text as well. And you can then use it and enter in different things, like manually have someone from your company, an apprentice, a V.A. type in hash tags, tape and tags, things like that. And then you can schedule to post them all from then this tool. And so I've been talking them since last October for months, getting ready to pull the trigger on getting that resource, because what a time-saver. And talking about, a re-purposing magician right there, that in addition to podcasting, Roku and Amazon, fire TV, all the rest that we do on this show, you guys are lucky you're going to get all over the place. And I'm like, how much should I charge? You guys to come on today. I want to know how you do it. Just give it to charity. We'll do, actually. OK. There's nothing for sale. There's nothing for sale. But if you want to go on the list to find out when that's coming. I do have a very comprehensive info product in the works on A to Z, live video to repurposing, to getting help apprentices and the system behind bringing them in. How to hire them. How to hold the meetings. I leave no stone unturned. I'm going to take that away because I am not advertising here, but I just want to put that up real fast. So let's bring in the other wonderful people. Unless, you have one final parting comment for the moment. It's 6:16, and like you said, about time. I hope you're all good. We're going to go another, I think, two hours sounds good? You know, I'm having these thoughts, like, man, we should do this weekly. This is actually high value. I know a lot of life's dreamers would love this. Maybe we'll talk to the boys, the kids I column and see if they want to spawn another one. The phenomenal thing. And have their own users talk about them, of course. And then everything else. All right. So let's bring in the next crew again. We're going to do some juggling. Here goes the Beer man. I don't remember who we had left anymore. Now it's just there, there there. And I think Shane hasn't had a second run yet. So we have an odd number. We guys think it's so far, Joseph, you are muted just in case you don't know.
Jennifer Szunko:
You know, I was thinking about another great feature of Stream Yard, which is the only one that I've used, but is the fact that we are not on a stream yard group on Facebook. And the information that everybody shares back and forth, whether you're a newbie or you've been doing this for 10 years, is amazing. And I've connected with so many great people through the stream yard Facebook page.
Marisa Cali:
Yeah, I think a lot of a lot of tech companies could take a take this playbook out of streaming yard. And I don't know how many others are doing it. I'm in the marketing space, so I'm seeing tools all the time. I know of another one called Quick, which is a captioning tool. And they basically built their community through Facebook. I know Stream yard, is launching like an affiliate. They have the referral program, an affiliate program and all these other things. But it's like we're are advertising them over and over all day long because of community.
Shane Trammel:
Well, yeah, those that might know what that is,Messenger marketing. That's another really good community if you're doing that for marketing.
Marisa Cali:
Yeah. And it's just like the well, you're getting all the info and then you decide if you're a pro at this or you've been doing it for a while. You can decide to give the value and build relationships. Like I've gotten a few people that have reached out wanting to work with me because of the the stuff or that the value that I'm providing. Not that I'm pitching. Oh, this is what I do. But just because of that community, it can open up doors. And now it's like something that's part of my arsenal of services so? It's cool
Brian Kelly:
it's a great marketing more to have strategy to model, which is have private Facebook groups and just have the people that are have asking in the game who are about your product or on the free product in this case. But now you have this synergistic group that are all there. And the thing with the in the Dan, they're just amazing at how they handle these weekly town meetings. I watch them in all because of all the questions that come in. If I was one of them, I would be utterly exhausted because every request is another week's worth of work, because I'm a former software engineer. I get that everything that's been requested is going to take work. They're building their team. They've got help there. They're still crushing it. They're amazing. But yeah. To your point, Marisa, I completely agree that they got it down and everyone should model and get community going because look what's happening. They're not advertising right now. And how long have we talked about them on this show? How much do they spend for us to advertise their product using their product on the show? So, yes, definitely follow their model. And if you're not involved with streaming yard and you want to live or if you're already using something else. Oh, boy. Let me tell you, I've not seen one person say that anything else is better than streaming yard unless they're using something like OBS or you know, one of the more very complex type platforms. It takes a lot more to get started for ease of use and quality. Nothing beats it that I have seen in my many years of doing this. Boy, we went right back to stream yard. You guys are private chatting like crazy. And thank you again. My goodness. Where were we? Who wants to bring up another topic? We've got like nine minutes for one hour.But, you know.
Jennifer Szunko:
You know, I have something that I figured out. And I think I'm doing this the most effective way. But to get our for me, it was our board members. But anybody that's supporting what you do. Get them to host a Facebook live watch party just before you're about to hit the air. And it seems to me that we're getting more traffic because of that. And I don't know if you all have any comments on if that's working or not.
Brian Kelly:
Wow. I'm intrigued. So you have people watch your watch party right before you go life. So watching two videos?
Jennifer Szunko:
So they're hosting a watch party to their friends. And it's a watch party, your livestream.
Shane Trammel:
So that's what we did. Brian, I think I know what Jennifer's talking about for our fundraiser that we did. Those people that were joining not as guests like we are, but those that were joining the Facebook Live. Actually when we went live, we encourage them to start a watch party so that, you know, their friends could also see it, which may not have seen our Facebook page or our website or our email promoting it. So it has the effect of hopefully bringing on a lot of other. I mean, Eric Worry, which maybe some have heard of lots of your well-known folks out there. They do that a lot and it makes a big difference.
Brian Kelly:
That's like video viral marketing. I love it. Yeah, that's a great idea. So anyone watching this right now, please start a watch party of this very video from.
Jennifer Szunko:
I did before we started. I'did start a watch party so?
Jennifer Szunko:
Okay, everyone. Jennifer is my new favorite. Is the new favorite. Joseph, you're still second with that background. I love that guy looking over your shoulder. I know who that.
Joseph Jaffe:
I'm a silver medalist. I'll take it, I'll take it
Brian Kelly:
And then Brian man with the hair, I've got to give you number three, that's awesome. It's just this stuff. Cool, Cool So what else? What else? That was a great. Thank you, Jennifer. I mean what a marketing tip everyone is, when you're on your show. Shout it out. Put up banners Right? Say, hey, go ahead. Start a watch party Spread the value. It doesn't take long. I mean, maybe do a quick how to do 30 second,15 second video to show them exactly how that's something I learned on stage is you need to take people by the hand and tell them step by step exactly, I kid you not. We would say we're gonna break for lunch. Everyone stand up, this on the life stage. Head out that middle door. Turn to your left and on your left will be boxed lunches. They will be labeled this, that and the other. Pick up your box lunch labeled this that. No, don't go the bathroom. Pick up your box. Come back in the room cause we're gonna start back up. I mean every step and you would think gushes for kindergartners. But if you don't, they're like cats. They go piss, they're all over the place.
Shane Trammel:
So, Brian, maybe you maybe you talked about if not now before the show's over, talked about for the audience, talk about multi streaming. You know, of course, stream yard has the ability with the two different paid versions of the software to multi stream. And I think for people that are out there wanting to get their message out, marketers or people trying to build a personal brand, I mean, you know, it's pretty amazing to be able to seamlessly multi stream to different platforms.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, that's great input, because you can do it a number of different ways, stream yard is one. Stream yard also integrates with something called realstream.io, which literally gives you the ability to stream even more platforms currently natively. But the difference between the two is the comments that come up on the screen like this one. You cannot bring those directly into stream yard if it's going through re stream. And I know I'm probably having Isarel on the back of the head of some people stream yard maxes out at five platforms currently. And you didn't hear me say this. I have a secret. I did not say this, On live, until I've shown on recorded audio or anything, but I had seven through stream yard.
Marisa Cali:
I think you should also like I don't know, I don't stream to all the platforms, but that's like a business decision and a brand decision. Right? Like, do you want it on all of them? Because all of your audience is on them. Or do you want to be very targeted to the content you're delivering on the platforms you choose? Like, I just choose LinkedIn and YouTube mostly.
Brian Kelly:
I've heard both arguments on that. Not arguments, but choices. I personally, I'm a fan of absolute market saturation. So anything that I can stream to, I'm getting on. Even if it's the former gaming like Twitch that's just opened up to regular talk shows. I coined the term carpet bomb marketing and that's the name of my course that I talked about earlier. And that's about saturating the marketplace with your message. So I hit every avenue. That's why there's podcasts. Well, is Roku, Amazon, fire TV, every life streaming platform that has an ability to be connected to? I used to use restraint before stream yard, and I just love that I can do everything within stream yard so I don't use it. But I used to stream to many more other platforms from restream.io than I do now, but as many as you can possibly get a hands on. That's my philosophy. What are you guys say? And then we'll switch the category.
Shane Trammel:
It's okay to say. I mean I think with few exceptions and what I think you can do if you have multiple things going on is maybe stream to multiple platforms within those channels. And and what I mean by that is I have three different YouTube channels, for example, on I have probably four different Facebook pages. So depending on the message, I may choose to leave one of them if it's very targeted. But generally speaking, I will say for me,I'm really working on building a personal brand because I think that's the at least the right approach for me. And I think there's a lot of momentum behind that and a lot of people out there, you know, saying the same thing. So I'm trying to go everywhere and as well. That's that's play.
Brian Ridgway:
I want to add something to that as well, I'll go ahead Joseph?
Joseph Jaffe:
I was going to say, when you frame that idea of two years as a time frame. Everything falls into place because if, you know, I'm streaming to Facebook, to YouTube and to LinkedIn, I think I have twenty thousand contacts or connections on LinkedIn. If I just focus on connecting with those twenty thousand, it's going to take a while to kind of cycle through them to be discovered either serendipitously or not. So that's kind of phase one, right? Phase two is every time I bring a guest on like, you know, like you're doing with us, unduplicated audiences get exposed to a new brand. And so that's another way of kind of growing your audience over time. And I think if you have a marketing plan and if that plan focuses almost on a two year plan, there's going to be a lot of smart and steady, you know, slow and steady wins the race. I think that's kind of how I think about it, which is it's a marathon, not a sprint.
Brian Kelly:
All right. Final word from Brian.
Brian Ridgway:
Another integration here. There's a tool called Liveleap that I was actually using for quite a while before jumping over to the stream yard. I was using a liveleap with belive, and I've recently brought Liveleap back in to integrate with Stream Yard because it's got integration where when I go Live, it will auto send an email to my list. It'll auto's send an sms message to everybody on my sms list. Brian's going live right now. It'll send those at the same time. You can integrate multiple email systems. And then I have a membership area. There's maybe a thousand people on this membership area. So a lot of people will be on my Website and or in my membership area lively while it's sending out to Twitter and all the other platforms, email and sms that I just went live. It also puts a notification on my Website in the members area. It just really brings a lot more people. You can really mushroom your reach really easily. But with one time setup.
Brian Kelly:
And I use it as well, Brian. And there's another way. In addition to all that, which is phenomenal. I do the same thing is also because we only have five max on stream yard. Now, go to those additional Facebook pages. It will auto share to your pages and it will auto share to LinkedIn for you. So for those of you that are on LinkedIn live, that's one of the big reasons I ended up on Liveleap, is that it does that and it's instant the second you go live. Lively is there, listening to your Facebook account. And the second you go live and you can set it up if you go and live on your profile or a Facebook page that you own, it will detect that and kick it out to all the other places that you set up. And it's instant and it's effortless.
Brian Ridgway:
Somebody typed in, it's liveleap.com.
Marisa Cali:
Hey, Brian, I have a question for you. Which Brian? Brian Kelly, the host. Oh, yeah. So you talk about all these tools and all this software and everything and all the stuff we need to know to livestream. What would you say to someone who might not even get started? Because they just feel overwhelmed with technology and they want to do live streaming. But what would you say?
Brian Kelly:
I'd say, again, like I said earlier, just go start with your phone and go live on Facebook is the easiest way to do it.
Brian Ridgway:
Just do it.
Marisa Cali:
Yes, I will. I was trying to say, because there's a lot of people that understand the technology, like all of us here understand it because we've done it right. We're doing live streaming. So what's coming out of Covid and everything is everyone wants to go live streaming when they just don't have the time to figure it out and they want to talk to people that have already done it. So there's like, remote, live streaming producers that are coming up. There's like these people that are doing trainings on how to go step by step. Like what? You know. So there are people out there that want to help you figure it out, whether they're doing it for themselves or I mean, they're running it or they're going to teach you how. Teach your team. Right? So it's not a matter of necessarily, OK, like, I'm not going to do it because I just don't have time to learn or time to start. There are people there that will do it.
Joseph Jaffe:
And I have a power tip for you, which is if you're starting a syndicate live, but you can syndicated. So it's not public, it can be just for you or for you. And maybe one or two colleagues can actually be experimenting as if it were live. But no one's seeing it except one or two people. And then the second part of that is just take advice, you know, get you know, you need a thick skin, you know, and just accept the fact that every bit of criticism is going to build you up and make you stronger.
Shane Trammel:
Right. If I could just make one quick comment. I figured stream yard in one night. I mean, so in other words. Yes, I'm not maybe I mean, I'm pretty tech savvy, but I think the point is. Even tonight, it's just my laptop, literally. That's all I have. I don't have a separate camera. The laptop has the camera. It's the audio built in. Certainly there's something better. But I go live with my son and do a video podcast. Auto stream yard super easy.
Brian Kelly:
And it has begun to ching ching ching. Who else do you need to bring in here? Oh, there is the beer, man. All right, one more. So this is phenomenal. And another thing is one thing I want to just say is you're either in it to win it or you're not at all. And that's a mindset not that you have to have everything in place before you start. But what is your intention? What is your priority? And I do want to say this, that having this life show, it has done things for me that I never anticipated. And there are some are intangible. Some are tangible. And by that real quick, what I mean is I had a fitness business for seven years. Last year, I decided to switch it on a dime. And now I'm into automation, as many of you have been experiencing. And yes. What happened was I went to an event, a live event, and at a break, you know, they do 90 minutes of seminar talk and then they break in the hallways and you do that. You those circles, those huddles, I call them, where you're all saying, what do you do? What do you do? What do you do? And they came round to me and I'm like, jeez, I just wish I know what to say. But I was doing a life show then because it MIND BODY BUSINESS stuff that with fitness. And I said, oh well, I interview successful entrepreneurs such as yourselves on a live television program. I stream it live to seven platforms simultaneously. I didn't finish my sentence and I'm not kidding. Everyone reached for their business card and put it from my face. I am not kidding. And then it happened two months later, another seminar. So that one was predominantly men. Then I went to another one that was predominantly women. There was one guy in this huddle. They asked the same question. I gave the same answer. And I kid you not same exact results. So no matter what your business is, get a life show going, interview other people and it becomes a lead magnet that you never even realized that could happen. And so you're providing value, building your platform. And now you're also getting clients without even asking for clients. Does that make sense? And so it's more than just get on and blab and provide value. And all the people I'm meeting right now and you're meeting each other, the lifelong relationships that result, the things I learned from each guest that come on are just mind blowing. There are so many examples I could go through. I won't know the the benefits of doing it far outweigh the costs in the time. So anytime you start feeling, God, this is a grind, I go do it again this week. Like think about the benefits that are going to come. They will come if you stick with it. What are your thoughts or ideas of the remainder of the remaining crew here?
Erin MacCoy:
Sorry Jennifer. I was just going to say, I think commitment is everything. You know, you got to set your mind to it and you've got to commit. It's committing to yourself. It's committing to your business. And it's really it's committing to those people out there who who have pain points that you can serve and with the value. So I totally agree, Brian. I think mindset and commitment are really key.
Jennifer Szunko:
Yeah, and what we were saying earlier when Joseph talked about having a small audience, we actually practice our event or just the technology through a private Facebook page, a private Facebook group. So that's another way to get comfortable, too, without going like you go live just in a private group. That is just your support team.
Brian Kelly:
You guys are amazing. I'm just going to say it right now. Everyone of you Phenomenal.
Sarah Nicolas:
I will say that in my book publishing industry, my show is definitely a great networking tool. Even if nothing else, it allows me to contact people that I have a great amount of respect for and have 30 minute conversations with them. And a lot of times that leads like further opportunities. So even if only a handful of people are watching. I still get that benefit out of it. And I think that other people, because I multiple people on my show at once, so they get to network with each other as well.
Jennifer Szunko:
Yeah. And that's we have these five startups that pitch their business idea at our events. And we kind of missed that one on one networking, not being able to get together, but doing it virtually. We're reaching a much wider audience and they can reach their reaching investors from all across country.
Justin James:
One thing we've talked about a bunch was tech anxiety, video anxiety. One of the ways when you're starting out, if you have to get over that, is don't just turn the camera on and go. You're a say that a bunch, but that will give you that anxiety. Instead, spend 15 to 30 minutes, jot down the two or three things you really want to cover, the questions you may want to ask and answer and then go live. So you actually have a little bit of structure and you're not just trying to figure it on the fly. What the heck to say? If we can do it because we've been doing it for a while. But when you're just starting out, there's no way we could figure out what these questions are. Brian's going to ask us. And on the fly, I have some response.
Brian Kelly:
Let me say let me ask all of you, was there a structure before we started? Did you notice any structure of any kind?
Justin James:
Oh, absolutely.
Brian Kelly:
I'm not saying that the pat myself on the back has to reinforce what Justin is saying for high quality, successful show. Again, you don't have to do all this right at the get go, but have it in mind and improve every single week in one way or another. Get involved with people like this group that's here tonight. Come into the community, reach out. I mean, I don't know about you guys, but you seem like you'd be OK with helping a fellow new streamer coming on and give him a few tips before you send him that invoice for thirty thousand dollars for the next hour. But in all seriousness, yet everyone here is look at them. They did not get paid a dime to be here. They're spending their own time, were over an hour already. And they are here to help you, to give to you, to really help everyone to improve their business, improve their lives, improve their church organizations, whatever the case may be. These are people I love being associated with. And I've never met any of them except for Brian Ridgway before. And I love Brian as well. So I'm really glad I've got to meet all of you. Let's let's get this wrapped up soon. A couple more comments that I'm going to give away. The fine night vacation stay that's trickling along the bottom of the screen and Ts and everyone. Who else? Tom, you had something.
Tom Brown:
I wanted to mention. We've focused on a lot of the video streaming today, and that's fun. But a lot of people sometimes look at the flash and forget, how do I monetize this or how is this going to help my business? Whatever you're going to do and a lot of the social channels out there. One of the things I want to remind people is we don't own those. So your plan or strategy, whatever you end up doing, should include capturing email addresses. And the important thing about capturing email addresses is now you own it. You have permission to email people. A lot of my clients when I tell them to say I don't want to be a spammer, I was like, you're not a first of all, if they give you an email, they expect to get an email from you. They don't say, here's my email, don't email me. So they want to get an email from you. It just needs to be a valuable email that's sending the emails, not spam, sending tons of emails and or exceeding the expectation that can be spam. But there's strategies involved in everything.
Brian Kelly:
That's a whole another topic about spam. I have a very strong opinion of it. If they ask for it, they're going to get it. If they don't want it, they can opt out and not call it spam. It's very simple to me. But on your point, this is what I do all the time. It's a you're right down the right alley, in my opinion. Tom and I have people register for this show. I have an opt in form. I have a show, Website that's just for the show. Only for this show where all my guests are coming up, are listed there, their bios, pictures. I mean, it's all put together. And I allow people to register and I have another system in the back that will automatically tell them as that show's approaching, who's coming on, how to go watch it, hold them by the hand. And that's building my e-mail list right to your point. So right on spot on. There is so much more we could do. So much more. Sarah, any final parting comments?
Sarah Nicolas:
Yeah. So I'm back to kind of like the barrier to entry, technology wise. So my manager, she would hate for me to say this, but she's one of those that the names are about. She can't rotate a PDF, you know. And I taught her how to use. So she can do it, I think any.
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Sarah Nicolas:
We'll just find me on the website. SarahNicolas.com. Sarah has an H. Nicolas has no H. I'm also Sarah_Nicolas on Twitter and President Sarah on Instagram.
Brian Kelly:
Awesome. And next up. Mr. Shane Trammel.
Shane Trammel:
Yeah. I just want to thank you for allowing me to be on the show tonight. And I'm just going to end by mentioning, which I didn't mention at the beginning. One of the charities or non-profits that I'm involved in, it's a county organization, but it's Hood County Substance Abuse Council. So that's hoodcosac.org. So we try to not only help in our community, our immediate community, but literally, you know, United States, we're just trying to provide information that can help people in that area. So just give them a shout out. Come, come, like our page, Facebook, all that. So you go to the Website, you'll be able to see all the other ways to connect. So thank you.
Brian Kelly:
Thank you, Shane. And thank you, Sarah, also for coming on. And next in line is Mr. Tom Brown, the beer master himself.
Tom Brown:
Beer, he keeps mentioning out but the charity is going on this weekend. Elmirabeerfest.com. I personally am with media barker, but either way you get a hold of me. All it is, is about strategy and having fun. Always have fun if you are struggling. You're losing the fight. I can help you find it. Let's go.
Brian Kelly:
I do not doubt that for one minute, my brother. All right, Justin, you are up.
Justin James:
Thank you. So you can find me at Letyournerdbeheard.com. And we also have a Facebook group. Nerd Heard United, where we actually have other entrepreneurs and business owners and we focus on making video. Easy for you. Love to have you join the group.
Brian Kelly:
I Love that nerd and heard. That's a great rhyme, that's phenomenal. He's my geek brother. I'll tell you. All right, Joseph.
Joseph Jaffe:
Hello. Well, this is the book Built to Suck. As you can see on on the cover, prophetic J.C. Penney and says, I guess I was right about both of them. You can find out more about me at JosephJaffe.Com. And if you want to find out about my show, Korona TV, KoronaTV.show. All right. Thank you, Joseph. And before you dig me. Thank you for having me on. Really. I appreciate it so much.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. I appreciate you, my brother. Thank you Joseph, thank you Justin and Tom both. I was remiss in saying thank you for coming on. And then up next, we have the beautiful Erin MacCoy.
Erin MacCoy:
Oh, thank you so much for having me, Brian. This has been so informative and meeting all the other panelists. You guys are awesome. You can find me at ErinMacCoycoaching.com. And if you're on Facebook. Erin MacCoy coaching is my Facebook page. And every Monday at 11:00 a.m. Pacific Standard Time, me and my buddy Sara from Rocket Work Social are doing our show. Don't panic. Pivot, 11 a.m. talking with business owners to help them and support them during Covid. Thanks.
Brian Kelly:
What a wonderful clause. Don't panic. Pivot. Thank you so much Erin, for coming on and spending an hour with us. You are all rock stars, I tell you. And let's get me out of there. All right, Jennifer
Jennifer Szunko:
Okay, thanks Brian. Yeah, you can find me on LinkedIn, Jennifer Szunko or through T.C. New Tech. So they're either investors or startups out there. That's who we love to quit together. Go to TCNewTech.Org and you can apply to pitch or you can find startups that are looking for investors.That's it.
Brian Kelly:
Thank you, Jennifer Szunko you guys are phenomenal. Thank you, thank you, thank you. All right. And next up is the one the only Marisa.
Marisa Cali:
Hello. I just had to check to see if I was muted or not. You can find me on all the platforms at all the social or I prefer LinkedIn. So LinkedIn got allthesocial.Com you can. It'll take you right to my profile. Send me a request and tell me hello.
Brian Kelly:
Fantastic. Thank you, Marisa. Thank you one and all that is going to be it for this edition of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. I hope you enjoyed it. And just be safe out there and continue to Livestream. It's all about life streaming. It's all about video. We can't wait to see what you have in store your next show. Reach out to us if you need a hand. Appreciate you all. Appreciate every one of you who join us as a guest expert tonight. You were phenomenal, Phenomenal. This has been one of the most fun shows I've ever done. I kid you not. I appreciate you all. All right. That's it for now. I am your host, Bryan Kelly on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Until next time. Be blessed, everyone. Bye bye for now.
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So, here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us, who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back. Who are dedicated, determined, and driven. How do we finally break through and win? That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly, and this is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show.
Brian Kelly:
Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Super excited for tonight's show. We have not just one, not two, not three, but four, four amazing guest experts who are joining me tonight right here on this very stage.
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They are waiting in the wings at this moment. So let's get busy. Shall we? The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, that is a show about what I call the three pillars of success, and that came about as a result of my study of only successful people in the last decade or so. And these patterns kept bubbling to the top and those patterns being mine, which is mindset set. Each and every successful person, to a person, had a very powerful and flexible mindset. So I learned that and said," I need to implement that". Then body: body is about literally taking care of yourself. Through nutrition and through exercise, exercising on a regular basis, and again that was another pattern of very successful people and in business. These successful people had mastered the skill-sets that were necessary to create, maintain, and grow a thriving business. They're wide and varied. It's like marketing, sales, team-building, systematizing. It goes on and on and on, leadership. There's no one person, in my humble opinion, that could master every single one of these. All you have to do is master just one, and I actually mentioned one of those. It was in that list. I don't know if anyone caught that, but if you master just one of those skill sets then you're good to go. That skill set is leadership. When you've mastered the skill set of leadership, you can then delegate those skills off to people who have those skill sets. See where I'm going? Good. That's what successful people do; the ones that I studied, anyway, over the course of about 10 years. That's what this show's about. It's a show for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs. I got four guests waiting, and I'm not going to wait any longer. So, I think we should just bring them on. What do you think? Let's do it.
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And there they all are. These amazing, beautiful guests on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. How are you all doing? Altogether, too. That was phenomenal, I love that. So real quick. All of you, I hope you don't mind for just a moment. I want to do some housekeeping? I wanted to mention to everyone watching here live. If you stay with us till the end, you can win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. All compliments of our friends at The big insider secrets dotcom. You see them flying by on the bottom of the screen right now. It's an amazing, amazing vacation stay. Stay until the end, and you'll learn how you can enter to win that wonderful prize. We also have this. If you're struggling with putting on a live show, and it's overwhelming and you want a lot of the processes done for you while still enabling you to put on a high-quality show. And connect with great people like the ones we have tonight, and to grow your business all at the same time, then head on over to carpet bomb marketing dotcom. Carpet bomb marketing, saturate the marketplace with your message. One of the key components that is contained in the carpet bomb marketing courses, and this is one that you'll learn how to absolutely master, is the very service we use to stream our live shows right here on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Over the course of the past, now it's over nine years, we have tried many of these, "TV studio solutions" for live streaming. I'll tell you right now, Stream Yard is the best of the best. It combines supreme ease of use along with unmatched functionality. So, go ahead. You can start streaming high-quality, professional live shows for free. Yes, I said it. For free, with Stream Yard right now. Visit this website, and do this after the show over. Take notes while the show is going. So write this down R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. Fantastic. Now let's get to the real fun, and the fun is these amazing people. Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. How are you all doing tonight? Thank you for being on this amazing show. Yes. So, what I'd like to do is open it up. Let the folks get to know you just a little bit now. Ok, guys. We're talking sixty seconds or less. All right. Just lay it low here, but we'll just go and order. I usually go ladies first, but let's just go around the circle. It's easier for me who's running the show. So. That's what's important. Right? So, let's start with Dylan Shinholser. Go ahead. Take it away. Give us a little brief background about you, what you do, and your business.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. So like I said, my name is Dylan Shinhoser. I own a couple of different businesses. I'm owner of a company called, "Experience Events", which is event management. I'm also a director of business development at a virtual event, event ticketing, and virtual event platform called, "ViewStub". As well as a co-host of another show called, "Event Masters", where I just ramble all day, every day about how to produce better experiences. It's really all I know and love to do is events. That is my less than 60-second pitch about myself.
Brian Kelly:
That's a good one, too. I'll tell everybody I've spoken with you in person. We had a call some time ago, and this gentleman, Dylan, is made of integrity and great character. So, reach out to him if you need any assistance in any of the areas he talked about, or if you just want to say hi to a really great guy. Then get in contact with him, and at the end of the show, we'll go through that. Please. Somebody remind me if I forget how to contact each of you. Because that's very important to me. This is the reason I bring this show to the forefront. (It) is to bring people like you into the lives of those who may not know who you are yet, and even those that do, to experience even more of your brilliance, your experience, your knowledge, and your value. It's not about me. This is about you. Always, always. Every time. I have one guest, usually. I just feel like I'm in this big family right now. But let's keep moving. Julie Riley, amazing young woman. Take it away.
Julie Riley:
Yes. So, I am Julie Riley. I am the social media manager at StreamYard. The platform we're using right now. Prior to my time with StreamYard, I owned my own marketing agency. I've been in digital marketing since two thousand and seven. So the very, very early days of the start of it is when I jumped in(to) digital marketing, and I love just being able to help others succeed in their business.
Brian Kelly:
Fantastic, and I will also say that I have spoken with Julie in the past. Both through a typewritten chat form and verbally. I think it was Clubhouse first time, which was phenomenal. Yet another phenomenal person, incredible integrity, and character. And yes, you're going to notice there's a pattern about this with the remaining two. It's the same thing. Hopefully, we can get the last one to talk a little bit. That will be nice. I'm just having fun because we were having fun before the show started. The one smiling. The biggest down there with the green hood; not pointing anyone out or anything. Thank you, Julie, for coming on. Yes. These people, Julie and Christian specifically, I know Christians coming up here in second. They're non-stop. They don't stop working. It's evident because of the very software research we're using right now. It's of grand quality for a reason. It's because of people like Julian Christian who keep everything rolling smoothly on the back end. Dylan's there nodding his head emphatically because he gets it. It's a lot of work, and they're doing it masterfully and we appreciate you. All right. Enough of the favoritism here that felt like favoritism. Julie's our favorite. Timothy McNeely! My buddy, my friend from just a little north of where I reside. I believe. If I remember.
Timothy McNeely:
Central California, baby. Bakersfield. Yeah, my name is Tim McNeely. Today, so many dentists and driven entrepreneurs are just not sure if they're getting advice that really makes a difference for them. They may have a financial adviser who is giving them some advice on their investment portfolio, but they're not really sure that they're on the right track to really maximize their net worth outside of their business. That's what I help them do. Maximize your net worth so that you can keep taking care of the people you love, support the causes you care about, really make that difference in the world, and build an amazing life of significance. I love doing streaming because I get to talk to some of the best of the best out there and share the knowledge with the beautiful entrepreneurial community.
Brian Kelly:
I'll tell you something on a personal note as well. Literally, we talked earlier today, Tim and I, on a Zoom call. He just reached out to me and said, "let's catch up." I had him on the show some time ago as a single, solo guest, and he was phenomenal. We've just kind of maintained a relationship, a friendship ever since. He just wanted to reach out and say, "Hi" and "What's up? What do you want to talk about?" We just started talking about business and things. He gave me resources that will help me in my business, and hopefully, I reciprocated it somehow. I don't know if I did, but it is the people like Tim, like Julie, like Dylan, like Christian. That is the cloth that they are all cut from. They are here to help people. That's why I love entrepreneurs. I love all of you. I mean it. I do. I love you. You guys are amazing. I didn't even get a crack at a Christian on that one. Jeez, I mean... there we go. That's a little better, but I'm telling you, he's working on StreamYard our stuff right now as we're on the show. I mean, I'm.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm really trying not to, seriously.
Brian Kelly:
The founder Geige Vandentop. If you ever watch this, there's a message to you. Ease up on your people. Alright? Just having fun. Alright, Timothy, you're an amazing guy. Thank you for spending your valuable time and coming on here. As well as Dylan, Julie, and the ever so talkative one, Christian. I'm not going to attempt to say your last name. I'll let you take care of that one. Welcome to the show, Christian. Let's hear all about your brilliance.
Christian Karasiewicz:
Sure. Thanks a lot for having me. My name is Christian Kerasiewicz. I'm the content marketing manager at StreamYard. So, pretty much anything you see on our blog that we're going to soon be launching. I'm the mastermind behind that. So, I do that. In addition to that, I also host live stream reviews, a YouTube show. We also do on the StreamYard YouTube channel where we invite people on to talk about their live streams and help them work through some of their problems, some of their challenges that they might be having with getting community or building a show. Thanks a lot for having me. I appreciate it.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, my gosh. Thank you again, Christian, for your time and being here. I mean, he's literally building a blog while on a live show. I mean, that's a great thing. I'm not even kidding with this one. That is phenomenal. That is showing such dedication. So, it's more than that. It's passion. It's love. You know? What time is that where you are, Christian?
Christian Karasiewicz:
About 9 o'clock, or yeah... about 9 o'clock.
Brian Kelly:
(Nine o'clock) PM. Ladies and gentlemen, in case you're watching this recording. Yes. By the way, I'm going to be on twenty-five different platforms after this is over. So no pressure, but don't mess up. I'm just kidding. So, this is a phenomenal group of people, and I can't wait to dig in. Christian, just what you just said, what you do is right down the alley of what I was hoping to talk about tonight. It'll go organically, but I wanted to talk about... I mean, look at Julie, and look at Christian, and look at their images. Look at their video. It is gorgeous. Here, we'll start with a really gorgeous one first. Look at that. I mean. If there were nose hairs that weren't in place, we'd see them. That's phenomenal, and there is Julie. Wow. Very beautiful. Even more beautiful. I should just have her up like this all the time, and we can just talk in the background. Because, you know, maybe more people would come on. So, you guys have phenomenal camera setups, and here's one thing I always like to preach to those who are getting into the live streaming game. Does it take money? Yes, it does. It takes resources. It takes cameras, microphones, (a) computer, internet, good internet, fast internet, lighting, doesn't have to be fancy. What I always say though, is, do the best you can with the resources you currently have. OK, I wanted to start it off that way because what we're about to talk about with Julie and Christian is their cameras. They are top of the line. We're not talking a one-hundred or two-hundred-dollar webcam here. I like to let ladies go first. So, Julie, do you have a story when you first turned on your new camera versus when you had the webcam and what that looked like and felt like.
Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh, I turned that camera on, and it was immediately noticeable (the difference). I actually did a live on my personal Facebook page where I logged myself in as a second user into StreamYard. I had my Logitech camera that I had been using up as a camera and then had my new one. So, I could do back and forth and show everybody the difference between the two. What an upgrade that was. The Logitech served me great for years. It didn't stop me from going live, but that upgrade was immediately like, "oh, I can never go back down now".
Brian Kelly:
So, that so that is one thing. Let's say you're on the road, and I can imagine at some point both you and Christian, maybe, you'll be sent on the road to maybe support conventions and things that are on the road. Now, you want to stream live, what are you going to do then?
Julie Riley:
Well, you know, the great thing about the Sony is (that) it's a small camera. Tripods, portable ones, are small. I can take it with me. If all else fails, and I'm either on my phone or I'm on my little webcam or even my built in webcam, it's not going to stop me from going live. Is it going to be exactly what I want? No, but more than likely I'll have the Sony with me.
Brian Kelly:
Thank you for saying that. I mean, that spoke such volumes. I hope people are taking notes that are watching. Definitely take notes on this. Because, look, the show must go on. That's what I say, and this show tonight is the result of a guest who unfortunately was ill and could not make it on. So, I scrambled and found these four wonderful people to say, "I'll come on and do a panel with you." And that's it. The show must go on, and I'm going to either do it with people or I'll do it solo. It doesn't matter. Consistency is key, and we can talk more about that, too. I love how you're just talking about, Julie. Where, look, I don't care where I'm at. If I've got something and it's my time to go live, and I don't have my gear. I'm doing it.
Julie Riley:
Right.
Brian Kelly:
I love that commitment. So, thank you for that. For everyone listening, that's important. Yes, quality is important. Like I said, do the best you can with what resources you currently have. That includes, wherever you are. You may have a DSL camera that Julie paid five-hundred thousand dollars for. Oh, sorry, it wasnt that much.
Julie Riley:
Thank God it wasnt that much!
Brian Kelly:
What was the model of that again?
Julie Riley:
A6000.
Brian Kelly:
What does it run about?
Julie Riley:
It was about seven hundred.
Brian Kelly:
OK, not too bad. A little bit less than five-hundred thousand. Not much but yeah.
Julie Riley:
Yeah.
It's a phenomenal thing, and I love that that's your attitude toward commitment. I'll tell you. You have a similar attitude...anytime I go and ask for support through the back side of StreamYard community. I mean, like through messaging. When I say the backside, that's sounded weird. When I ask for support, you're always there. I mean, you don't sleep, and I appreciate that. So, keep not sleeping for everybody's sake. Christian, you do the same. So, Christian, what about you? When you made that initial change from whatever camera you had before to this unbelievably clear one year look you're working with right now. What did that feel like the moment you saw a difference?
Christian Karasiewicz:
So, it's very interesting actually. So, this is actually what I was using before. I've been using this for quite a number of years. This is a Logitech Brio. It does do 4K. I invested in this one and eventually came out, and the quality was fantastic. The only thing was, though. I wanted to scale. So this was great for traveling, for example. This is what I took around with me. Super portable. It's got the ability to put it on a tripod. Fantastic, but it did not allow me to scale, so I had to always take up another USB port and all that sort of thing. When I moved to the Sony, the Sony looked very good. I will say the one thing you have to do, though, is you need to go through the settings. There are a few adjustments you want to change. That's what's going to actually enhance your picture quality of it. It's a fantastic camera. It's a Sony 6400. Then, really, the other side to it is also the lens. So I'm using a Sigma lens. So, that I think is the real big difference. I mean you have the kit lenses it comes with. I did make the investment in the the additional lens, which I think that's actually what's contributing to why it looks so good. I will say from a quality standpoint, again, start with what you have. You know, the key things for live streaming. Audio is going to be your most important part. Then also, if you, for example, are using one of these webcams, make sure you have enough light. These things look great with a lot of light. When you don't have a lot of light, you're going to see pixelation. You're going to see distortion and things like that. So, turn it back to you.
Brian Kelly:
Especially with light, if you turn on the green screen feature, you really need to have good lighting then. That's the biggest time. I'm so glad to be liberated from that. Even though I loved it. This is actually a natural well behind me. I painted the entire studio. I actually occupy my daughter's former bedroom. I've been here for four or five years now, and I finally got rid of the cartoon drawings and the yellow paint. I'm a real boy now. I have a real studio. This is awesome.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That looks really good by the way. I was very surprised (by) your background because that looks like one of the standard backgrounds people would normally bring up during a live stream. One that has, you know, the gradient going around the outside. So, whoever did the painting on that fantastic job.
Brian Kelly:
Why, thank you very much. My wife did most of the work to be honest, but I feel like that helps with that. Yeah.
Timothy McNeely:
If you want that comparison between cameras. Right. Christine was just talking about the Logitech Brio. That's what I'm on, and you can see the massive quality difference between Kristen and Julie versus the webcam. So. Right. (A) huge step up.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, we'll point that out in glowing detail right now.
Christian Karasiewicz:
You're using a green screen. Right?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
Your sound, Christian, is smooth. I mean, you have a great radio voice. Having that microphone, I think will pivot to that too. Dylan, what are your thoughts on cameras? Yours looks actually really decent right now? You're on (a) green screen, correct?
Dylan Shinholser:
Correct. Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
It looks really clean. You've done a good job with all the lighting. It's almost like you've done this before, and you know what you're doing.
Dylan Shinholser:
I try. Yeah. So, I actually when I first started doing it, I started listening back on my phone. When this whole pandemic hit, I was using the one inside your laptop and realized very quickly (that) I'm on calls all day, live streaming shows and stuff. I was like, "I got to set my game up." So, I haven't made that leap yet to the DSLR, but I will. I'm on a Logitech, one of the models. I won't even lie because I'm not that tech-savvy. It was expensive for Logitech, so I bought it. I was like, "it's got to work." So, yeah. So, that's where I'm at. I agree heavily. I think it comes down to, because we get asked it and I know you guys get asked, it comes down to what you can afford at the moment. Then always trying to push the limits of production value. Right? My background was a wall. It was just like random yellow wall, and now I have a giant green screen wallpaper now. So, now, I can be wherever I want which is a concert. That's where I want to be, and that's where I'm going to be.
Brian Kelly:
You're the one on the stage, brother. Not the audience.
Dylan Shinholser:
No, I'm actually the guy behind the stage. I never want to be this. It's actually weird for me to be in front of people. I'm the guy behind the stage telling people to get on the stage.
Brian Kelly:
Pushing them forward. Well, you do a good job, Dylan. I wouldn't know any different. Maybe your calling is to step out from behind and be on front more often.
Dylan Shinholser:
We will see. Twenty twenty-one has a lot of stuff, and I've got a long way to go. I got super bored in twenty-twenty so I might as well talk.
Brian Kelly:
I've gotten to know you a little bit over time, and you've got a great personality. I think you need to shine in front of more people. That's my humble opinion.
Dylan Shinholser:
I appreciate that.
In the front, not behind the scenes. It's okay to be behind the scenes on occasion, but someone like you with your personality and your integrity, your character...get out there, buddy. It's a disservice if we don't get to see you. Let me put it that way.
That's what a mentor of mine said. He was like, "dude, you're actually being selfish by not talking more and getting it out." Because like I said at the beginning, I only want to help more people create better experiences and events. Make them flow better and make them more money as humanly possible. At the end of the day, I just want to travel the world with cool people and do cool things. I've learned a lot, and a lot of people need some of that experience. So, I got a stern talking to by one of my mentors. He was like, "dude..." I was like, "alright, it's alright. I promise." I started live streaming then had to get better cameras, better lights going on. It's crazy up here in my little command center of all these different lights, webcams, and monitors. Everything you need to do to pull these shows off.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I love it. Christian, go ahead.
Christian Karasiewicz:
So, I want to throw something in there real quick. We talked about various types of cameras. If you're just getting started, use that built-in laptop, the webcam. So then you can take it up a notch. You can go to the Logitech. The C922. That's about, I think, a 60 to 70 dollar webcam. So, don't overpay by the way. It's about 60 to 70 dollars. Get it from Logitec, probably. If you find an astronomical price on Amazon, move up to like the Brio, for example. If your budget allows it, that's about one hundred fifty dollar camera. Then move up to a DSLR. For example, Julie's got that, the Sony 6000. I would also say if you happen to have a smartphone, this can be used as a webcam. Essentially, if you think about it, this is a thousand dollar camera. Because you paid a thousand dollars for this device of sorts, and this will give you some phenomenal picture quality. If you already have a smartphone and you don't have to have the latest iPhone, it could be pretty much any iPhone and Android phone. You just need an app such as one called,"Camo." There's one called,"Erion." So, there are lots of apps out there. Don't think like, "hey, I have to now go drop a bunch of money." Look at the phones you have lying around. Those are going to be great ways to fix your picture quality.
Julie Riley:
I've been going live since 2015, and I only had this camera last year.
Brian Kelly:
That's it. You keep reinvesting. I had a good friend of mine who were business partners. He said, I'll never forget it,"sales drive service". When you're making money, you're able to invest. You're able to up your game, and I love that. So many great points. You can just set a phone on a tripod and your camera will look better than many people's webcams. For sure. One of the things that I would recommend, this isn't just a plug StreamYard, is to get at least get the free plan. Do they need any more than the free plan to be part of the community, Julie?
Julie Riley:
No. They can come to join the community even if they're just getting started into streaming. We do like everybody to have the free plan so they have an understanding, but we'll still let you in. Agree to the rules. That's the big thing. Yeah, come join the StreamYard community. It's really a "stream yard" community.
Brian Kelly:
It's a very valuable place because questions like what Christian just addressed are often asked (What do I need?). I'm just starting. I'm a newbie. I see that so much in there. What can you do to help with a camera or microphone or computer? You can go there if you have those questions and ask, and the community will fill in the blanks wonderfully well because they're a great bunch of people. Just like Tim down there who's gotten pushed to the side for a while. So, Tim, is this your first camera that you've been using for live streaming so far? Did you have one before it?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah, right. I started with just an HD one. Right. Logitech and then jumped up to the Brio. Been happy with that so far. But, you know, it's interesting how the game keeps growing again. That's the thing, right? Just get started! Just do this. I started with just using zoom and recording those for my interviews, and then I realized (that) I need a better platform. I need a way to kind of do that live production. Now I'm doing Stream Yard and got intros. Just get started with whatever you've got and kind of build that proof of concept. You know, I recently just upgraded my lights because I bought the cheapest lights I could at first. I just wanted to do something, and done is better than not done a lot of times.
Brian Kelly:
I totally agree with everything you just said and like what Christian was saying. If you're going to put money into anything, make it the audio side of things first when you upgrade. I was fortunate. I started over nine years ago streaming live. This is a DSLR. Not a DSLR. Good grief, XLR microphone. It's old school. It's not even USB. So I plug it into a mixer board, and from there into my computer. I've used it for years. It's been just amazing. I've never had to do anything with my sound as a result. For you, there are great USB alternatives now. Oh my gosh, there are so many out there. Someone like Christian could probably point you in the right way. Someone like the StreamYard community could push you in the right way and tell you,"these are the ones". I have a connection with the guy who is a sound expert. I've never heard of this before. He has a studio that does 4D sound. I don't even know what that means. Four dementional?
Christian Karasiewicz:
Sweet.
I don't know what that means, audibly. He was telling me about speakers in the ceiling. I'm like, holy moly,. You don't need that obviously for a talk show like this, but think about the possibilities and have fun with it. The bottom line is, when you go on and go live. Enjoy yourself. I'm trying to do that a little bit with these fine people tonight. Thankfully, they're still here with me. I haven't upset them too great, especially Christian. I keep picking on him. Poor guy. I appreciate you all, and it's okay to have fun on your show. Would you guys agree with that? Is it okay to have a little bit of fun?
Julie Riley:
One hundred percent. If you're having fun, your audience is going to be having fun with you.
If you're not having fun... I don't believe in doing anything that I don't find fun. It's a life motto of mine. If I don't want to do it, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Like you said, Julie. If you're not having fun with it, then how in the world do you expect the viewers to want to have fun or engage or interact? It starts with you.
Brian Kelly:
Absolutely, absolutely. One of the things I wanted to pivot to is something I'm deeply interested in because the product that came up earlier when I did the quick ads spot. I like to solve the pain points that people are having in their live streaming experiences. I'm curious. I'll bet, Julie and Christian, you guys have seen and heard a lot about that. I actually had a team member of mine from my company put a poll up in the form of a meme, a graphic. What's the right word? I am having trouble with words these days. It's an infograph. That's it. Simple. I was a little bit shocked by the result, but I was just curious what you guys think. What are the biggest pain points you're seeing? (Either) that you're having individually. Tim, if you have that as well. Dylan as well. Dylan, you probably hear about a bunch of it as well. What are the pain points you are seeing come back over and over and over again? I'm having a horrible time trying to find another guest on my show if they're interview style, or the tech is just blowing my mind. Even though StreamYard is so simple. I'm having trouble with x, y, z. Let's just go around the horn. Dylan, if you don't mind, I put you on the spot. Can you think of any of those pain points that keep coming up over and over again?
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. The biggest thing I see is they underestimate what it does take. I totally agree. Why I promote StreamYard to our clients and everyone I possibly can is because of the ease of use. People go into it and think shows are just like setting up the webcam, and they can be. Setting up the webcam and just talking. Right? There's a lot of back end stuff to this. These shows and I'm learning that as doing my own now. I'm like, holy cow, I'm about to hire fifteen people because this is absurd. But, yeah. I think that's the biggest thing that I see is underestimating it, but also at the same time, they overcomplicate it. They have to think (that) they have to have all these bells and whistles and seventeen thousand cameras and two million dollar microphones. It goes back to our first point of "just do it". It doesn't need to be overcomplicated, but understand going into it, there is some work that takes and understand that you do have to respect what it takes to put these on. At the same time, don't overcomplicate it. It's funny how people work. They overestimate or underestimate it, but then heavily overcomplicate it at the same time. I think that's the biggest one I see.
Brian Kelly:
I'm so glad you brought that up. I've said this so many times, people don't realize what goes on behind the scenes before the show even comes on live for that episode. The amount of time and effort. If you want to do a live show that's of quality and represent yourself and your brand in a way that you want it to be represented professionally. It takes a good amount of work for every single show. That's why I automated nearly every process (that) I use now. It took time to get there, but you can use a team. You can get a team. Like you said, Dylan, to also help out. For me, it's all about quality, and more time is spent before the show by far than the show itself. After the show is over, another good deal of time is spent. That is in the minor edits, the repurposing, the marketing, and everything else that goes beyond. The live show is this tiny window of time, and it's the fun is part of it by the way. When you have everything automated, the rest is not "not fun" because you're not doing it. It's all automated, but definitely great. Thank you for that. Julie, what has been some of the big p.. sorry to wake you up there. What have been some of the big pain points? You are wide awake. I just starttled you. You've seen over and over, I bet you've seen a bunch of them.
Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh. So many, you know, especially because I'm approving all of the comments that are coming into the group. I think one of the huge ones is that the hesitation of people who believe that they have to have everything perfect. That they have to have all of the backdrops, the overlays, the banners, the super expensive microphone, and the super expensive camera. That they have it. The room behind them is messy. They haven't thought about turning to just a blank wall because they're like, "well, then I don't have a fancy studio set up." They get to this point where they're trying to create perfection, and perfection is a fairy tale. It doesn't exist. There is no such thing as perfection. There is, again, where Dylan said the overcomplicating it. They've got to really just slow down and go, "what do I need to get this process going?" What is the minimum to make it happen? From there, then I can then build on it, and build on it each week. Go, "okay, I got live. I got the first one out. I got the jitters out. I hate the way I sound." When I had my agency, I would tell my clients. They'd be like, "I can't stand the way I sound." I'm like, nobody likes the way (that) they sound. There's actually, and I say this all the time, there's a term for it that is a term for not liking the sound of your own voice. I tell people, you have to get over that fear. They're like,"I don't look good on camera, I don't know how to be on camera." The other thing I tell people is to set up a fake Facebook group with nobody else in it but you. Go live in there a bunch of times and just get those jitters out. Get that feeling of pressing the button and going live. Then invite your husband in, your sister, your mother, or whoever. Somebody so that you're talking to somebody. From there, build up each time. As we said with the cameras, again, you can you can slowly build. You can slowly add in the overlays. You can slowly add in the backgrounds.
Brian Kelly:
My goodness! I absolutely love it. I have my own Facebook group that I use just for that. Nothing more. I go in there, and I test things for StreamYard and other things in there. I go live in there because there's no substitute for going live. We've got more buttons to click, and things kind of change their arrangement just a little bit in the window. If you practiced it 20 times without going live, then you go live you're going to go, "what the heck just happened?" I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. That was perfect. Perfect advice. I love that. We've got a comment coming in or two or three. Yeah. Kelly, crucial. Kruschel. Sorry if I got that wrong.
Dylan Shinholser:
Kelly Kruschel. It's Kruschel. She said she's on my team. She's a friend. Hey, we've got a supporter.
Brian Kelly:
Love it. Love it. Then Fran Jesse, I know her. I'm getting ready to make my first video essentially input. Yeah. Reach out, Fran. We're friends. I will give you assistance in any way you want because this is the greatest this is the greatest avenue for media on the planet, in my humble opinion, for so many reasons. One is people get to see you. I love clubhouse. It's also phenomenal in different ways, but people get to see you. They get to interact with you. They can engage with you, and they get to see your essence. It doesn't cost you, the studio owner, studio time. If you do this in the old days when you have to go to a television studio and you want to do a show, it would cost you thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars just to use the studio. Let alone get the media time to put it up on a television station. We're living in wonderful times. It's the greatest time to be alive, in my humble opinion. I'm a tech geek. I'm not young anymore. I'm fifty six, but I can't wait for the rest of what my life has to hold. Yes. You're welcome, Fran. Any time. Wonderful. Wonderful. Alright. Where were we? I got all messed up and loving myself there. We're going to have fun. I'm being real. This is like... I don't know. I'm the most relaxed (that) I've been in a long time with everything that went on today. It was one of those weird, everything-going crazy days. I feel like I'm at home with you guys. That's why.
Dylan Shinholser:
It's been one of those years.
Brian Kelly:
Thank God that last one is over.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, yeah. Sure.
Brian Kelly:
So, okay. Pain point. Let's go back around one more. Tim, what do you have?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah. When I first started doing this, my whole goal was to get out there and to talk to the different experts in the different areas of the challenges that my my clients face. I started off as an interview show and just using Zoom to record the video. Then all of a sudden I had the video. Now I had to put an intro in. I had to put an exit in. I had to extract the audio so I could do the podcast. My team members and myself were spinning our wheels. Just trying to really kind of create a workflow around the creation of this content so we could get the message out and help people with their challenges. For me, all of a sudden, the revelation was (that) I can do this live. I can have people type in (and) ask comments as I'm doing the show. Not only that, from start to finish, I can produce the whole thing going live. Right? You go live. You can play an intro now. You can throw in little commercial breaks. You can throw in the outro, and then it's done. Download the audio. You throw it up, and now you've got your podcast. You don't have to upload video to YouTube and Facebook and LinkedIn. It's done for you now, automatically. So really my biggest pain point was just the production side of things and putting everything together so that I could keep talking to people and doing the fun part. Right? I don't want to get caught up in all the details of making this. I want to talk to people, learn, and share that knowledge. Really, a lot of the pain point, just using StreamYard has really been absolved because it's a turn-key easy to use platform.
Brian Kelly:
Amen to all of that brother. Here's the key for everyone that's ever going to do a live show or has done one. The most important part is that you show up and you be the talent. That means you need to be dedicated mentally toward what the task is at hand. If I have too many things going on, like production-wise, which I used to when I didn't automate things. That's in the back of my mind. Did I dot every "i"? Did I cross every "t"? What's going to screw up on this show? Versus showing up fully for my guest. Being there for them. Getting out of myself and my own business and being present for the other person, that's what I'm about. Lifting up the other people, that's what my show's about. It's important to me.
Timothy McNeely:
Actually, if I can touch on that talent piece, Brian? I think he brought something up so important for everyone listening to this. If you're doing any kind of a show where you're interviewing people, chances are (that) the person you're talking to (is) a little bit uncomfortable. Your job, as the talent, is to spend some time before the show really crafting what it's going to look like. What direction are you going to go in? You want to make that person you're talking to look like a star. The more you can rehearse with them and put them at ease, you're going to end up with a much, much better show. Because you've taken a little bit of time to make sure that (the) other person is going to shine just as bright as you do. So, take that time to work with your guests beforehand through interview guides, through little questionnaires. So that you can help prep them, to keep them on a thread, and you can really help them deliver their message. Most people are not trained professional speakers. They just aren't. I've hired some of the best speaking coaches to help me develop messages, stay on topic, and learn how to tell stories. People don't invest time, energy, and effort to do that. You can help them do that through a briefing before you start your live with them.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. That's why I was saying before, I do a thirty-minute preshow. All of us were on here for 30 minutes getting to know each other, making sure all the tech was good, doing some checkout. You were talking about people being nervous and stuff. That's why I'm riding Christian so hard with all these jokes and stuff because it broke his nervousness. You can see his sweating. I am so kidding. This guy's raw. He's a rock. He's awesome. He's a pro. I love this guy, man. I always pick on the quiet ones. I don't know why that is. Christian, man, you're bringing massive value. All kidding aside, you're very experienced. You're matched for what you do. You've said already so many amazing things. What about you, brother?
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'd say this. I think a couple of the pain points. I think one is people want to ask, "how do I get better at my live stream?" I think (that) the first thing is practice. To Julie's point, I think you mentioned having overlays, backgrounds, and all this other stuff. Look at it like this. You want to show your audience as well while you're helping them. You're doing this with them. You have everything at the same time, and you're trying to make everything perfect. Your audience is going to be like, "I'm not going to stick around this person because they've done such a good job already. I won't ever get to that point". They start having that self-doubt. The key thing is going to be practice. You don't have to have every single one of the overlays. Maybe start with the the intro or the thumbnail, and maybe you have an outro for example. (Those are) the first two things you do. As you build the show, then you can add segment graphics. You can add videos. So, you can scale it, but you don't have to have so much at one time because then it's just too overwhelming. That's point number one. Pain point number two is that people, for some reason, think that they're going to immediately be able to monetize their live stream. I say pain point because everybody's like, "oh, I bought all that equipment." Now, you've got to figure out how to pay for all that equipment, you know? If you're struggling already with your business and growing it, then you're not going to immediately monetize live stream. You have to have an audience. You know, you have to build that community. When you go live, they're tuning in because (of) the social platforms. They want to see that you're bringing viewers, they want to see engagement. So, point number two is monetizing your live stream. There are ways to do that, but don't always set out with monetization being number one. It could take a couple of years to monetize. So, get started. Build on it, then make those investments as your business is growing. Yes, mic drop. Yes.
Dylan Shinholser:
Do you have that mic? Just a mic drop? Because I might need to get one.
Brian Kelly:
It's actually super.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, super real.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That's pretty cool, actually.
Julie Riley:
I like that.
Brian Kelly:
It's actually part of a magic trick that you put in a paper bag. It's a long story, but I found one more affordable that would not break my keyboard because that's what it landed on. You didn't hear it. Oh, my gosh. Golden nuggets there, as usual, from Christian who I give a lot of hard time to. I'm going to stop because you're amazing dude, and I don't want to get mad at me. I want you to be my friend. So many great things. So, you said two years. I was like, wow. I was watching an interview. How many of you have heard of Lewis Howes? Former professional football player and turned incredible entrepreneur. He's all over the place. He was being interviewed, and the guy interviewing him asked him a question. He said, "so, Lewis, if someone came to you, and they were talking about the fact they wanted to start a podcast. Now, we're talking just the audio version. That's what a podcast really is for everyone that may not know it's audio-only. Not video, even though they're going that way." He said, "well, here's what I'd tell them. First, you got to actually be consistent. Whenever you decide to do it, do it at that same day and that same time every week or multiple times a week. Whatever that happens to be. Number two, more importantly. You must commit yourself to doing that for at least, the magic number, two years. If they are not willing to do that, I would tell them, don't even get started." We didn't talk about monetization. None of that was discussed during this Q&A. That was telling. Who was I talking about this earlier with earlier today? It's not necessarily about monetizing. It's about building your platform, and I wanted to add to that. It took me in two years. I was just hitting that moment in time of my live show. That's when the momentum started. He was spot on, and so are you, Christian, about the two years. Then using a certain strategy (that) I use, I continually ask for referrals in a certain way. I eventually landed the one and only Les Brown. Some of you know who that is. Some of you don't. I've noticed some don't and Im like,"what rock are you living under?" He's amazing, and he's been on my show. Because of that, the two-year commitment is my point. Not talking about monetization. Then what I found after doing this for two years and striving for excellence all the time in every facet, I'm talking about the preshow communication with upcoming guests and the setup and the prep that they all go through and my system makes sure they do. The show itself and then after the show, all the post-production, everything that goes into it. Once you have that, people notice and my show, without my intending it to be, became an incredible, powerful lead magnet for my business. Focus, just as Christian was stating so properly, does definitely, positively impact your business. If you do it right. You do it high quality, and again, within reason within the resources you have. Go ahead, Christian.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I was going to say. That's another point that people look at, and they want to generate revenue off of it. That revenue may not be actual money upfront. It may end up being (help) (to) drive more leads to my website. It's not necessarily driving more people to my social channels. You're following is... It's OK. That's not going to necessarily grow your business because you had five more followers on Instagram or something like that. It's potentially getting them back to your website, which can be an opportunity for them to schedule a coaching call with you, maybe buy a product from you, learn from you for example. You're not going to get every single person to become a customer, but you're going to be able to use it to generate more leads.
Brian Kelly:
Totally, totally true.
Dylan Shinholser:
That's why I do it.
Brian Kelly:
You see on the top of this screen "streaming live on" and then five. We're doing it to eight right now or seven right now. "Listen-on" down below. On the bottom, there's actually twenty five of those like us could fit them all. Roku now was on Fire TV. Look, you're not making money from those, but here's what happened. How many of you have heard of Kevin Harrington? Shark Tank? Original Shark Tank? He has a partner named, "Seth Green", and they do a podcast together. They've been doing it for years now. They have five-hundred plus episodes. We got introduced, Seth and I. I met Kevin. We shared the stage once. I'm not name-dropping, but yes, I am. It was awesome, and it was fun. Seth reached out. We were connected by someone else. We were introduced, and Seth did his own homework. He came back, we literally talked on Zoom, and he says, "wow, I did some research. I looked you up and, my God, you're everywhere." I just wanted to say, "yeah, that's right." So, you want to get out there. That's why, shameless plug, I call it, "carpet bomb marketing". You saturate with everything you've got within reason. Right? If you can automate it, it can be near or completely free. So just do it. Why not add it to your arsenal? So, it works. Just be consistent to a minimum of two years. Get in touch with people like Julie, Christian, Tim, and Dylan. You might make that even quicker than two years. I'll direct you to the shortcuts that many of us did by trial and error.
Timothy McNeely:
Touching on the monetization piece, a good friend of mine runs one of the top coaching consultancies out there. Right. Very, very successful. Runs a great podcast, great show. I ask him one day. I said, "have you need any money doing your podcast?" He thought for a second. He says, "naw, I've actually lost money doing it. The relationships that I've made...I've made millions off (of) that." If you approach it from that standpoint... There's different goals, but I always approach, you know, what's the end result? What are you looking for out of your show? Why are you doing it? That's how you can measure the success of it. Is it helping you achieve whatever goals you set for yourself?
Brian Kelly:
Totally agree. It's very similar. Isn't it? To writing a book? I'm holding up another namedrop. Yes, it's very similar to writing your own book. Because a lot of people want to write a book and make a living off of the sales of the book. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, most of the time it just doesn't happen that way. If anyone comes up to you and you're talking to them... During the course of conversation, maybe you ask them what they've been up to? Or, hey, I've authored a book. The moment they say that, in your eyes, do they not lift up in an influence in your mind? Right then and there? Instantly. It builds authority. That's exactly what this live show, and live shows like it, are doing. When you're giving evidence of it by spitting it out to all of these platforms, there's no way people can't find you and know that you're serious. You know, it's showing that you have a commitment level. It's showing that you have a quality level of professionalism. It's not about the show itself. It's like, well, if I do business with that person, or will I... Will I want to do business that person? If they're professional. Yes. If they put on a shoddy show, they might give me shoddy service. If I do business with them. Does that make sense? People want to (be) representing yourself in the best. Do it the best you can, but do it. Please, don't delay. Don't try to be perfect. You heard everybody talk. Go ahead, Dylan. You had something?
Dylan Shinholser:
Well, yeah. There's indirect ways to make money with shows, live streams, and of course direct (ways). Right. Direct is selling sponsorships, ad-space, all that good stuff. The indirect monetization is so much more powerful. When I do shows or when I hop on shows or anything, it's literally just to build a top-down awareness of myself. I just want people to know what Dylan Shinholser is. Then that way, because I do multiple things, I'm never trying to sell one product at any given time. I'm trying to sell myself, and what it does is it gives me that outlet to do it. Then if you're hosting a show. Right? This maybe goes into some other topics around how to market and things like that. It's a powerful relationship tool because when you can open your platform to other people that you're looking to connect with. I'm in the business of working with influencers and throwing their events. Well, the best way to connect was get them on my show. It gave me a reason to reach out that wasn't pitchy or sales. It was more or less. Hey, man, I just want to give you an outlet, because I think what you talk about is cool. Tell my people about it. After the show, I was like, "hey, man, what are you doing next Tuesday? I need a speaker." Or "hey, man. I have some ideas (that) I want to pitch you or (some) things. They're more receptive. So, I always do shows and things not about the direct money I get, but the indirect thing. It's the indirect impact that I get from relationships, or people sharing my stuff out and people go, oh man, he sounds semi-intelligent unless they're watching this. Then then they'll go, okay, great. Let me go over to this platform that he runs with this business that he does or whatever because he sounded halfway intelligent on that show. Right? So, I think the indirect monetization is what most people don't... They don't get that the instant gratification of like that five thousand dollars sponsorship check. When I forgo that and go on to bring on much more money on the backend with the people I connect with, in the top influence that I get.
Brian Kelly:
The magic word there was "relationship".
Dylan Shinholser:
Relationships all day, every day. That's all I do- is build relationships, and how can I do it? Do more shows like this. Can I get it out? You're on like forty-two different podcast or outlets here, right? Every one of those. Every time you put a show on it, you're building a relationship with someone on that platform. Even if it's just you talking, and they're listening. You're building that relationship. Everything (that) I do, is built on: how can I develop relationships? Live streams is just an amazing way to do so.
Brian Kelly:
Posting them is one thing. Right? That's a great thing. What I learned through a podcasting expert friend of mine is the maybe not as equally important, but possibly greater importance, is getting on other people's shows. That includes audio podcasts only. He explained how his business skyrocketed when he did what he called, "podcast guest marathons". He would have someone get him booked in his team. He would carve out three days and just say get as many as you can for me. He'd do that. Then when they ask him about how to get in contact with him... This is the gold right here... It's not go to my Facebook page and look up my name and message me. He would tell them to go to his podcast website and from there to subscribe. Now he's building a following. It's genius. It's so genius. I just want to impart that. The cool thing, though, is when you're hosting a high-quality live show that opens the door for you to be a guest on many more.
Dylan Shinholser:
Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Being a guest is what goes back to the authority building. Right? If I can build my authority, I build my influence. If I do have something to sell... If I'm trying to build my brand or whatever it is or I'm just trying to get to as many people as possible to talk about events with them... That authority I call it, "authority hacking", being able to get them on your show. That'll get your show in front of their audience, and then going on to other shows helps you develop your authority. It's like writing a book. I was I'm a guest on this show, this show, this show. It's like writing a book. Your authority starts to become a little bit more when you're leveraging their influence. Right? When you're a guest on the show, if that show has a following, you becoming a guest on that show gives you authority because now you have the validation of the host that everyone is following and love. So, I can authority hack by getting on other people's shows.
Brian Kelly:
It leverges. You have a whole new tribe watching and interacting with you as well. I mean, this is one of the most powerful things people can use. If they just get out of that rut of trying to find a way to make money with it directly, that's when they'll see the real value come through. It's about building relationships. It's long-term. Not short, quick kill. I got to make a commission and run. It's build a relationship. Establish it. If you go into this with the mindset of it not being for directly making money, I personally think you have greater success. The long-term plays always work better than the short-term. Short-term works can work, but they're temporary. The long-term is a lot more permanent and lasting. Just think of all the wonderful bread crumbs you're leaving throughout the world. Through all the venues and platforms we've been talking about. In speaking terms, if you're on stage, that's what we call a "stage swap". Where you would be a guest on someone else's stage in return for them saying, "okay, but I'm going to do the opposite." We'll have you on our as well. The same thing with podcasts and live video. It works really great. Just make sure they're a fit.
Dylan Shinholser:
They've got to fit. (It's) got to makes sense.
Brian Kelly:
Both ways. Yeah.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I want to add something real quick to that. If you are consistently going live, so it's great to be consistent, go live on a regular basis, but also think about the long game. It's a couple of years, for example. Also, don't be afraid to be making changes and adjustments as things are moving along. It's not about substituting equipment. It's about looking at your process. For example, you mentioned Brian, that you have automation on some of the things. Think of smarter ways to take bigger jumps ahead. If I have to send someone an email, and I'm like, "hey, do you want to be on my show?" Then I have to deal with the whole back and forth. Well, okay. Yeah. What time? Then I have to send everything back. There are tools out there like Calendly, Harmonizely. You can send a calendar link to somebody and they can only book a certain slot for example and vice versa. This takes out the guesswork out of having to do all that back and forth. That's a way to work smarter because now you want to book people for your show. You send them one link. The person then doesn't have to send you a message back, and you can even use it to collect feedback for your show questions. There's not a lot of back-and-forth and downtime.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, absolutely. I do that as well, and it's a godsend. I could not do what I'm doing. I would not do what I'm doing without the automation part of it. I have an onboarding form. You guys all... Most, not all of you went through it, but that was a mini version. Julie, you went through the big version. I then changed it right after I saw that. Like you said, make adjustments. That's what I did. I'm constantly doing that. Improving. I have a document automatically generated in Google Docs with your bio. The answer you had to why you think you would bring value to the show. Also, all the questions you chose to be asked for the show. Some of you didn't see that. So everything's done. The Q&A part used to take hours and hours doing manually. Now I just give them thirty-eight questions. Choose ten, and we're good. You tick the box. You choose what I'm going to ask you. (I) just made it a system, and it has worked beautifully. I don't even use the ten questions hardly. I use maybe the first three. Then we go organically like we've been doing tonight. My God, it's six twenty-nine! Are you kidding me? I'm having too much fun. Real quick. I know everyone that came on in the beginning. You heard this thing about a prize. We're going to do that real quick, and we'll come back and wrap it up. For those of you watching, remember in the beginning I said, "take notes and don't go clicking away and stuff like that"? Now I think Dylan, Julie, Tim, and Christian will also give you permission to do what I'm saying, and that is take out your phone. Take your gaze away from us for just a moment, but you'll still have to look back. Yes, yes. You can do this too. Please, do. What I want you to do....
Dylan Shinholser:
I need a vacation.
This is how you can enter to win a five-night stay at a five-star luxury resort of your choosing. Here's what you do. Take out your message app on your phone. Fire that up- your text message app. Where you would type in the name of the person normally that you're going to text. Instead, put in this number: three, one, four, six, six five-they're all doing it behind the scenes- one, seven, six, seven. I love this. Three, one, four, six, six, five, one, seven, six, seven. If you're watching this and you're not a guest, go ahead and write this down because I gonna take the screen down. I want you to get it. This will be open until the end of the evening. Where you actually put in the message... Where you might put emojis, those kinds of things, not emojis, just two words separated by a dash or a hyphen. Those words are peak (P-E-A-K) dash Vacation (V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N). All together. No spaces. Peak vacation. Send it off, then monitor your phone. You're going to get an automated response back asking you for your email address, and that will then officially enter you into the contest. Compliments of The Big Insider Secrets. Our buddies, Jason Nash, the owner. Dear friend of mine who lets us give this away every single week. Every show, actually. We do more than one a week now on average. So go ahead, get that entered. I can't wait to see who's going to win that. You're going to be asked later, you don't have to if you're the winner, to provide your Facebook information. Just your profile so we can say congrats and give you a high-five online and get others to come watch the show. To be honest, that's another strategy. We're just rolling back the curtain. That's why we do it this way. You can offer incentives like that. My friend has offered that to anyone who is my friend. If you're not my friend, you don't get it. If you're on as part of the panel here, they're all my friends. Christian may differ on that opinion, but I think he's my friend.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm your friend. Yes.
Brian Kelly:
Ok, good. I picked on you so hard. I apologize, but you're just you're a fun guy. I appreciate you for putting up with it. I definitely do stuff like that. Implement it and announce it in the beginning. That helps retention. I'm just pulling back the curtain for everybody. You can do different things like that. Having multiple people, I noticed, is also a little better than just one every single time. So, mix it up now and then. Alright. I know we're a little bit over, but I want to give you each another chance for a final parting tip. Anything you want on live streaming. It could be hardware, software, how you smile, what bling you wear, don't wear, your makeup. I'm wearing some, by the way, just so the guys know. Yeah, I don't know what they call it. It's not like guy up.. guy-liner, but it's like makeup. I know. That was bad.
Dylan Shinholser:
I haven't heard of that one.
Brian Kelly:
I just did that. I'm not a young fart anymore. Anyway. So, Dylan, we'll do the same thing. Go around the horn. What would be one final quick tip, or parting words of advice, you can give our wonderful viewing and listening audience?
Dylan Shinholser:
Keep it simple stupid. Don't overcomplicate it. There's things that you need to do and standards you need to meet. At the end of the day, keep it simple stupid will allow you to not overcomplicated it (and) get overwhelmed. Once you get overwhelmed, it's a wash. I would just say as a life advice, event advice, live stream advice, just keep it simple stupid and keep it moving.
Brian Kelly:
Real quick, I got to interject on that. Just so people know that that comes from an acronym K.I.S.S. So we're not calling everybody stupid, for one.
Dylan Shinholser:
Well...
Brian Kelly:
That was great. I have a friend who is Sicilian in nature, and he did this from the stage. He talked about it, and he brought up the whole thing. We're talking about doing it without complicating it. He goes, "It's like K.I.S.S. Who knows what K.I.S.S means?" Someone raised their hands. They said, "keep it simple, stupid". He goes,"Oh, no, no. It's keep it simple Sicilian." He lighten the load of the stupid part. I thought that was cool. Sorry, Julie, what is your parting tip?
Julie Riley:
You know, you're going to have to get started at some point. In order to do that, you're going to have to get over your fear. Go practice. Get those done, but also go watch and find other people that you resonate with their live shows. Start to take pieces from each of those. Now, obviously, you cannot go copy their live show and recreate it. You can pull little things from multiple different people's live shows that you like and that resonate with you. If you're comfortable and things are resonating with you, you're going to exude that comfort and that confidence out to the rest of the world.
Brian Kelly:
I love it. I love it. Alright. The man, the myth, the legend, Timothy J. McNeely. What is your final parting word of advice?
Timothy McNeely:
I'm going to close with a story. The purpose of this story is to illustrate the power of doing a show. July 20th, 1969, the first man walked on the moon. He left his footprints up there. On the moon, there's no wind. There's no rain. There's no weather, and those footprints today in twenty twenty-one look exactly like they did in nineteen sixty-nine. They're going to be exactly the same a million years from now. You too. You leave footprints on the hearts and the minds of everyone that you come in contact with. In streaming and having a platform, that's your opportunity to leave your footprints and to have an impact on people. Get clear about what your message is. What's the impact you want to have? If you do that, all of the other puzzle pieces are going to fall in place for you.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, baby. Okay, I've got to do it. I've got to do it. That was amazing.
Dylan Shinholser:
You have to get one of the little lower third animation gifts that are possible here on StreamYard. It's just a mic drop every time someone does one.
Brian Kelly:
Not nearly as much fun though, bro.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That's true. Fair. Very fair. I'll give it to you. I've got to get me one of those little squishy microphones.
Brian Kelly:
A little sound effect like I just broke my desk or something. That would be good. Alright, Christian, you've had a long time to think about it now. No pressure, but this better be a good one. I'm kidding. What do you have?
Christian Karasiewicz:
Let's see. The best piece of advice, I think, would be don't have gas or gear acquisition syndrome. You're going to watch people doing their live streams, and they're going to go and be like, "hey, I got to get that mic because this person upgraded." Oh, they got a new webcam. Remember? If you develop a plan, the whole thing is work the plan.. work the system. It's great (that) somebody else got some equipment, but it doesn't mean that you need to go out and get that yourself as well. Remember, work your plan. When you get to the certain points, maybe set that as a milestone. If I get to a certain number of viewers, for example, or a certain number of subscribers on a channel, then I might need to upgrade something. Don't be buying stuff just because someone else is doing so.
Brian Kelly:
Sales drive service. I love it. You guys are amazing. Thank you so much for coming on. Everyone who watched live. Thank you for coming on. Those of you that watched on the recording. Thank you for spending your valuable time with us, and those listening on the podcast. The same goes for you. Definitely. I hope you took a lot of notes because these are experts in the field. They are giving their value, their heart, their experience. They only charged me two-hundred thousand dollars for it. It's really been a deal. I'm kidding. They charged me nothing. You got incredible value from these amazing, amazing professionals. I can't thank you all enough. I appreciate you Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. Thank you from the bottom of my heart with all seriousness. I know we had some fun tonight. Thank you, Christian, so much for letting me pick on you so hard. You've been a great guy. I look forward to getting to know each and every one of you at a deeper level. If you're open to that after tonight. Appreciate you all. On behalf of these amazing people, that's it. We're out. My name is Brian Kelly. I'm the host of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Until next time we will see you. Be blessed. So long for now.
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