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Brian Kelly:
So here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success. Who seem to make it one step forward? Only default. Two steps back. Are dedicated. And driven. We finally break through and win? That is the question. This podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly. This is The mind body business show. Hello, everyone, and welcome. Welcome. Welcome to the Mind Body Business Show. Oh, my goodness. I have reached a level of excitement that has exceeded probably every previous show I've done. And why is that? Is because of a phenomenal guest who's coming on. He's in the wings waiting like a caged lion. He wants out. He wants to come on screen and share his brilliance. And I can't wait to bring him out here to share it with you. His brilliance is amazing. A look, Potter is here with us, and I cannot wait for you to meet this amazing, high energy, fun gentleman who's also most importantly for this show, very successful. And that is the purpose of this show. The Mind Body Business Show is a show that I had created with the mission, the purpose to bring to you successful entrepreneurs so that when you watch and when you listen to this show, all you need to do is take very copious notes. And then when the show is over is to act on those notes, take action, learn, do take them and put them into action and ultimately teach them. That's the best way to learn anything is to teach it. But do the learn and then do the do. I love it? Sometimes I come up on a weird stage just off the cuff. This gentleman, I kid you not. I cannot wait to share some statistics he just shared with me and I'm going to have him do that for you. That it shows that he has found what I like to call the secret sauce, and it's right in alignment with the way I love to operate. And you're going to love this. It's going to you do not want to miss this gentleman.
Brian Kelly:
So stick with us. We'll come on here in about five more minutes. So stick with us. Mind, body, business show. It is all about the three pillars of success. I studied only successful people for a period of about a decade or so. And what I found and these are from people that were my mentors that I knew personally, others that were authors of books, others that were authors that may not even be with us anymore have passed on highly successful people, people that are out there right now that I don't know personally, but I would study their background, their accolades, read their books. And what I found were these three these three pillars kept bubbling to the top of each one mind is that every single successful person that I studied had this quality. They had the quality of a powerful, positive and most importantly, flexible mindset and then body. They literally, to a person, took care of themselves both physically and nutritionally. So they exercised on a regular basis and they ate and drank those things that would serve them the best so that the mind and body, as you know, they are a team. More importantly, the mind and body are your team and any member of the team is not pulling their weight. The team as a whole will fall down and crumble. So you want to keep the team going. And then business. Business is so multifaceted and it's so wonderful. In order to create and maintain and build and scale a successful business, one must master different skill sets, skill sets like marketing, sales, team building, systematizing, leadership. I mean, I could go on for quite some time. And you get it. You're astute to master anything. Take some time. Kind of like being an expert takes on average 10000 hours of concentrated effort in that one area. The good news is you nor anybody that runs a successful business has to master every single skill set themself. And that's a hint. You only really need to concentrate. And focus mostly on one skill set, and that's one skill set I mentioned just a moment ago. So if anybody wants to know what that is, go ahead and type it in.
Brian Kelly:
I'll wait. I'm kidding. I'm going to tell you right now, it is the skill set of Are you ready? Drum roll. I need that. I need that sound bite. It's a skill set of leadership. Yes, leadership. When you have mastered the skill set of leadership, even if you are your own, you're a solopreneur. This is something you want to work on right away, leading yourself. Then when you bring on a team member, lead them, master that skill set. Now you can bring in those individuals who have already mastered the skill sets you have yet to master or may never master. Because let's face it, there's a lot of time that would be involved to master them all. That's it. Leadership. I just gave you the shortcut to success. Our show is over. Thank you for coming on. I am so kidding. I cannot wait to bring on Alok. He is an amazing guy. And real quick, another wonderful attribute of highly successful individuals is that to a person, they are also very avid readers of books. And so with that, I want to segway very quickly and very briefly into a short segment. I like to call Bookmarks.
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Brian Kelly:
There you see it. Reach your peak library. And here is a word of advice before we go one step further. I know a look will totally appreciate this one from speaking on stage just recently as he had. And that is when you're given resources like you're going to see here and here, you're going to see here and here get it. And when you see and hear these resources mention, I know a look will have many, many to give you instead of succumbing to that itch, so to speak, to run off and click on another tab and go research it. While this show is going, I implore of you to instead write it down and keep your attention on a loop because you do not want to miss one golden nugget. It could be that one moment that you take your attention away for that brief shred of a moment. And he will have said something that could have changed your life forever. And this is what happens from stage. You'll you're getting to the part, you know, is a juicy part as the speaker and you see someone get up because they got to go to the bathroom or they get up because they had that all important phone call that they had to take from a client or someone that wasn't an emergency. Stick with us. Pay attention. Do not miss anything. I look has to say. That's my soapbox moment. Reach your peak library as you write that down. Reach your peak library. Resource number one is a website that I had developed with you and mine. Why? Because reading books is incredibly important in your growth as a business person and business owner. Incredibly important. I didn't know this until around the age of 47, which was about ten years ago. I did not read anything that was business related or development related until that age. So ten years. And once I learned and realized, oh my gosh, this is life changing, I said, I'm going to start cataloging every book that had a profound impact on me, either personally or professionally or both. And this is the collection. It is vetted by me personally so that you can have a higher degree of certainty that it won't be a waste of your time.
Brian Kelly:
Because at least one other successful entrepreneur vetted this list, and not every book I've ever read is on this list. They had to meet certain criteria, like basically change my life for the better in some way and everyone on it. There is no rhyme or reason to the alphabetized version of how they're in here or order. You'll see a lot of Grant Cardone books all clumped together, but then it's all over the place. Pick the first book you like and you don't have to get it from this website. This isn't for making money. This is for you to get the resources you need to advance your life to a level that makes you incredibly happy and that you can serve the community, serve others, and crush it in life for everyone. Sound good? That is reach your peak library. Speaking of crushing it in life and everywhere else, it is my very, very exciting moment that I get to introduce you to our special guest expert. So let's bring him on, shall we? Get ready.
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It's time for the guest expert. Spotlight savvy, skillful, professional, adept. Trained, big league qualified.
Brian Kelly:
And there he is, ladies and gentlemen. It is the one. It is the. Only. I look up Harry.
Alok Appadurai:
Potter, right?
Brian Kelly:
All right. Yeah, right.
Alok Appadurai:
You got it.
Brian Kelly:
I practiced that, too.
Alok Appadurai:
So good to be here. Thanks so much, Brian.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, man, I love your energy already. And I loved it when you came on. This is so for anyone watching and curious. We were talking for about a half hour leading up to the show. Never met him before. This is exactly how he shows up all the time. So I want you to know that what you're going to see on this show is the true, oh, look, this is him. And I love it. Yeah, he's fun loving. Look at him. He loves to have fun. He's laughing a lot. The thing is, though, he's also a very astute and successful entrepreneur. In just a moment, I'm going to give you a formal introduction that you richly deserve. Although right before we do that, if it's okay with you, a little bit of housecleaning, housekeeping, no cleaning. I don't want to clean. That's no fun. Housekeeping's better. I don't know how it's different, to be honest. So we have several sponsors on this show and you see one of them right over it looks left shoulder. It's on the right side of the screen. It's the big insider secrets he got. Wow. You were quick in getting that correct there. Look, he's pointing in the right direction. That's hard to do on camera. The big insider secrets. Yeah, it's my good friend, Jason Nast, who runs that company. They are giving us the ability. This is great. You'll want to stay until the end because of this one thing, if nothing else. And that is everyone who stays on to the end will have the opportunity to win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort from many locations all over the world. Again, compliments of the big and secrets. So stick around. I want you to be that winner. And then we got a couple more and we're going to get right on to it with a look. This is going to be fun. So if you're struggling, if you're putting a show together and you're just getting overwhelmed with all the tech and all of the work, people don't recognize or realize just how much effort goes into producing a high quality live television show or live podcast.
Brian Kelly:
And it can be quite arduous. And I know this, as a matter of fact, from doing this for now, over ten years, I used to do everything manually. I said enough is enough and began automating a lot of the processes. If you are looking for help in the tech and you want to create a high quality professional top shelf live video show, then go ahead and visit carpet bomb marketing where it is, carpet bound marketing. Saturate the marketplace with your message and then. Folks that go through the carpet bowl marketing system will absolutely master the very resource we are using to bring this show to you right here, right now. And it is called Stream Yard and you see a URL on there and be an astute, you know what to do. No, not type it in and go look at it. It's only write it down on your notes. Our IP Dkim four slash stream live all together. I've used so many of these quote unquote studio software solutions over the years. Many. And I'm here to tell you that stream art is the absolute best of the best when you consider everything put together. They have figured it out and they've done it. They've built something specifically for live video shows. So no more Zoom. Get rid of Zoom. Go to stream hard for your live video. Zoom is great for meetings, but you want stream repeat imports live stream live. Let's bring this handsome feller back up and I'm not talking about me. Oh, God, no, no, no, no. Oh, look. Here we go. Are you ready? Let's give a look. The introduction he so richly deserves. Oh, yes. Look, Opendoor, I opened our eye. I got it is founder and CEO of Uplift Millions LLC. It's a global coaching and consulting company for Impact led entrepreneurs and leaders who are growing 6 to 8 figure companies that value people, planet and profit. So many aren't valuing even the first part of it these days. I'm so I love reading that. Alok is the Wall Street Journal bestselling author of Maximum Impact Potential. Based on his over 20 years of experience as a social impact entrepreneur, he is also a TEDx speaker on feeding 500,000 meals to people in need.
Brian Kelly:
I mean, can you not love this? How could you not love this guy? That's what I should say. He won a Stevie Award for the Best Entrepreneur, was selected for the new reality show Four Days to Save the World. Good Grief and is a proud father to Sequoia and partner to Caitlyn. Everything's in their family. Man, successful men, heart centered men. Ladies and gentlemen, I look up and.
Alok Appadurai:
I'm like, Wow, that guy sounds pretty amazing, man. I bet. I hope I live up to the bell.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, man. I mean, I absolutely had no idea what to expect most of the time of guests that that. Come on. I don't meet him literally till half an hour before the show, just like you and I. And it's it's always a pleasant surprise every single time. Yours was a notch higher than most because of your energy, your joyfulness, your your vibrancy, your love for life. It's obvious in all, all cases. So I can see why you have become so successful. A lot of that comes from your mindset and that's what drives you. You have a choice to be happy or you have a choice to be, you know, doldrums in the mud. And yeah, we are human. We get those points, right? We all get to those points. We get upset. We get pissed off. We get angry. The choice is how long do we want to stay in that state? And then which one is more serving to our bottom line in our life, not just in our pocket? So what I want to ask you to kick this thing off. Look, is. I am a firm believer that what is going on between our two ears is the foundation, the baseline for either our level of success or lack thereof, that it's all because it starts with and finishes with what's going on up here. So I'm really curious with you, when you get up in the morning, you know how it's super easy being an entrepreneur that everything just falls into place every day and you never have to worry about issues. I'm being so facetious here. There are many arduous tasks that await you in the morning as it does every entrepreneur. There are also good ones. There are also issues that need to be remedied. So when you're faced and then there's that uncertainty about sales for some, and I'm sure you went through that in the beginning of your walk in entrepreneurship. We all have. I think unless someone just was born with a silver spoon, I don't know how that would happen for you when you wake up in the morning, what is driving you? The bottom line is what is really going on in that big, beautiful brain of yours when you wake up, you know all those things are in front of you, but you have something that is keeping you driven and going that's just going to plow through all that stuff and keep crushing it and serving people. What is that for you?
Alok Appadurai:
Yeah, I'd say two things. One, I love what you're saying about the noggin being the big driver here. And I want to add one other layer. And this is where, you know, audience get, get, get your pen out and start writing this down. I think there's another frontier that goes beyond the mindset piece, which I think is huge. But I'd really like to also bring in a conversation about what happens from the chin down to the root chakra, which is actually in the emotional body. I think the next frontier for emotion for entrepreneurs and leaders is going to be to move a conversation away from just being about this, which is, by the way, a huge progression. Right. Because prior to this being the conversation was do do, do, do, do, do, and people could not understand why people were stuck, right? So then it progressed to a conversation about what's going on in the mind. Then it progressed into a conversation of what's going on in the mind and the subconscious. And I want to add one more layer, which is the mind, the subconscious and the emotional body. And once you start really having a communication and understanding kind of what's going on down here, right in the emotions, what we feel now, you can really start changing your life because you can do all the mindset work. But if you're not actually shifting the emotional body of how you respond emotionally to what's going on in sales, marketing, leadership, team issues, all of that, you're not regulating your nervous system, which, by the way, I'm not saying I'm perfect at it. I'm just saying I'm in the conversation around it looking to improve it. You're not going to do anything. So for me, my mornings, how I wake up and and get into that kind of drive mode is actually a couple of things. One is that I tune in to spirit. I actually get quiet. I spend as much time. I wake up before my son and my girlfriend intentionally because I want that quiet time because that's where I tune in to source whatever you want to call it. Source God, universal wisdom, infinite wisdom. Whatever your language for, it doesn't really matter to me, but it's where we open up.
Alok Appadurai:
And so I don't move into doing out of the gate. I think that's one of the big mistakes is people just like get up and they're like rise and grind, you know, we've got to go at it. You know, I actually think you you lose your your your superpower to some degree when you don't actually get quiet and listen. And when I say listen, I mean, yes, birds and I sit out on my deck here. I live in the desert in Tucson. You know, one of the places you and I had a really good conversation about, one of the most joyful places to be Tucson, Arizona, heart of the desert. I actually find it amazingly beautiful, but it took me about ten years to get there on it. But I listen. It's like listen to the birds and the bees and the javelins and and whatever else. But it's really listening to source, right? It's where we connect in where the things that might otherwise get missed come in. And, and literally the moments that I have in the morning are sometimes mind blowing. I'm like, Really? Oh, my God, it's only 615, and you're already dropping that bomb on me. Probably a carpet bomb moment.
Brian Kelly:
You want one of those?
Alok Appadurai:
I'll take one.
Brian Kelly:
I'll tell you. Get this thing rolling. Here we go. Yeah, they walked up. We got a couple more flights coming through before we go. Keep them coming, brother.
Alok Appadurai:
I'd say the other piece is, is then connecting to my two motivators. My two motivators in the morning are 1aa what I call more near motivator, which is my son and my lady. I'm driven to be a provider in my household. I understand my role, one of my roles in this household, and so I tune in and connect to them as a driver. So the second one is the global. So I tune into my mission, right? What did I come to earth to do? That might sound a little weird to some of you, but I just did this with a client literally right before coming to see Brian, and I literally had him get in his spaceship. I literally said, I need you to be in an alien spaceship looking down on Earth. What did you come here to do? And when you tune in and get connected to actually what you're here for, then you can handle the stresses and the challenges and the hurdles and the obstacles and all that, because you have a connection to what your root DNA or what I call Soul Mission was here for. So those are the things that I come back to every morning and they light me up to handle whatever the sludge and the challenges and the, you know, the bombs that might come my way is constantly coming back. Why am I doing this? So those those are my gems there.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. And they are gems. And I get it's so much on point emotions. Nobody does anything without emotion. The action follows the emotion, you know, and we're always taught in sales that people buy on emotion. They do. But the whole the translation of that is people make decisions based on emotion. And it's that decision to whether they buy or don't in a business sense. But it's the decision on whether they're going to go about life, thinking that the everything's against them or that, hey, everything is available to me. And there's we all have choices. It's all it comes down to a choice.
Alok Appadurai:
And I just huge, huge choice. Like, for example, a lot of entrepreneurs that think that people don't want to talk about is anxiety, right? Because you don't have a steady paycheck. The pressure is on you to make it rain. Right. And so anxiety is a huge, huge issue in the and now now you can think all the thoughts you want, but if you're not regulating your central nervous system and getting a handle on it for real, that anxiety is still going to grip you up totally.
Brian Kelly:
It's like. It's like weeds choking out flowers in the garden. It's all it's just emotions are very important. And when you are able to manage and or control, to some extent, your own emotions change that emotional state. There are tools in science, proven science that can help you with that called NLP. I use it all the time. It's it's been a game changer, a life changer. And I don't say that about very many things. And then you said, yes, another Mike Trout moment. And when you said, you know, what is the purpose? You're in a spaceship, what is the reason? Why are you doing all this? And that's the other one. It's like have a very profound y and mine is similar in in parts minus my wife. She's my Y. Without her I wouldn't have my kids. So I go to the source and just say, you know what? I would crawl over broken glass for miles to keep this thing going because I want her and I to have that life together. We always dreamed of, to always improve, always be happy, and always be joyous. And so, yeah, those things that you just mentioned are core. If you don't spend the time like, like a look just so eloquently stated and set aside the time to put those in your life on a regular basis. If you don't, then how is your life going right now? Would you like to improve it? If you would like to and you aren't going to do anything, it's not going to change. And so why not change? And this thing I love, although many people I bring on here, one of the things they their answer often is a routine. That's what you just outlined. And I tell the audience every single time, look, if you don't have a routine, all I recommend you do is start with something like what a look just described. And whatever isn't working for you, if anything, doesn't modify it to fit your needs.
Alok Appadurai:
That's right.
Brian Kelly:
Simple.
Alok Appadurai:
Throw it out. Throw it out.
Brian Kelly:
I've talked to guys that take ice cold showers in the morning. I'm like, hell, no, I'm not doing that. No, it's not for me. So who would you like? I like to be comfortable in the morning. I won't be. Shocked. I don't need the paddles. I've had those on me. They didn't feel good after I was done. I no, I don't need to be shocked but yeah. Do what works for you and then. But just keep refining and that's. Is this something you find common with you? Look, you've got a business. You've got a very thriving, successful business. So once you achieve that level that you're kind of happy with, did you stop building? Do you stop tweaking? Did you stop testing?
Alok Appadurai:
No, because my my so in my philosophy around business, I'm not in business to just get filthy rich just for myself. I'm I'm on a mission to empower 10 million entrepreneurs to be what I call wealth circulators who are empowered to move flows of money to where more good happens. Right. So what I teach people is, look, you've got to have for me, goals aren't just the traditional measuring stick of goals, which most people are saying, Well, I want to grow a seven figure business or an eight figure business or six figure business, whatever. They're awesome. Great. That's a wealth generator. I'm going to challenge everybody watching right now. If you're an entrepreneur, how can you migrate to what the next identity evolution is, which is wealth circulator one who is able to be able to someone move flows of money not just for the benefit of oneself or even one's family, but how can we someone be someone who moves flows of money for the benefit of everybody, or at least who you might care about? Maybe it's your community, right? And so in order to be able to do that, you have to be someone who can have what I call next level goals. And so for me, those are, well, circulation goals. So I want everybody here this my wealth circulation goals have to do with I want I, I commit. It's not I want I hope I will try. I commit in my lifetime to plant 1 billion trees on earth. Why? Because I know they're the lungs of the earth. They clean the not good stuff and they spit out the good stuff. It ain't rocket science here. What happens when trees get planets? I'm going to plant 1 billion trees. I'm already on track for that. I'm going to end blindness for 1 million humans, and I'm committing to create 1 billion 0% interest loans for women during my lifetime. I create 0% lending loops. So when you have goals like these, which, by the way, my current business doesn't yet generate the revenue for me to do those goals, I've calculated those goals will each cost me total sorry $400 million during my lifetime. So no. Brian sure. The business at seven figures are scaling to eight figures. We're nowhere near we are nowhere near done because I'm nowhere near hitting what I've committed to before. I'm in the grave.
Brian Kelly:
So no.
Alok Appadurai:
We don't stop growing.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, and I knew the answer before I asked it. I just wanted to hear. I want everybody else to hear it. Because one of the other things is I love your loftiness of your goals, your your what did you call them?
Alok Appadurai:
Well, second are giveback goals.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. Next level goals.
Alok Appadurai:
Yeah, that's right. That next generation.
Brian Kelly:
And here's the thing, a lot of people may go, geez, Louise, this dude's off his rocker. Well, here's the thing. Yeah, yeah, he's got. The thing is, he's got something to aim for, and he knows it's very high, but at least he knows he's aiming for something. So to those that don't have goals or any loftiness to them, if you aim at nothing, you are sure to hit it.
Alok Appadurai:
That's correct.
Brian Kelly:
And so why not aim at something that could supply not only yourself? Thank you so much. That's very ecological to be there for other people. And it's amazing that you have those lofty goals. I mean, 0% loan, that's like, whoa, awesome. I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to put on a wig and come over to you and say, I want I want to.
Alok Appadurai:
That's right. So can I get one oak? You know, cross-dress knock on my door up here in Tucson.
Brian Kelly:
I don't think I could pull it off, brother.
Alok Appadurai:
You got no ball. I love how you just said, you know, if you got no goal, you're definitely going to hit that target of nothingness.
Brian Kelly:
Dream big, dream big.
Alok Appadurai:
Dream big. And look, y'all have a boatload, a little boat, loose, crazy. Unscrew it. If your bolts are too tight up there, you know, loosen it up a little bit. You got to be a little crazy to go down this path.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. And you know what? It's a good crazy. It's not like a you know, you need to be put in an institution crazy of any kind. It's all it is is think out of the box, you know, be a little bit different. That's the key, is being different if you follow everyone else.
Alok Appadurai:
I want everyone to hear this. This is not about bragging and all that. I don't care. You know, someone asked me, you know, do you want fame? I said, I don't give a hoot about fame. If I'll be me, I would say I don't give a shit about fame, you know, but it's really true. I want everyone to hear this because for me, fame is not the end destination, it's impact. Its impact. And so if I I've said to God, I've said to universe or whatever language you all want to use for it, I've said, look, if I have to become famous for my the things I just listed, fine, I'll do that. But it is not a driving force for me. And frankly, I have I actually don't desire it. You lose your anonymity, you lose your privacy. But if I have to do that, so I want you all to hear this is not about ego. It's not about, oh, I want the spotlight. No, it's that I have a commitment to humanity. I have a commitment to something bigger than myself.
Brian Kelly:
Gosh, man, you're much younger than me. But somehow I think we were separated at birth. You're my twin. We have twin. Mine's facial hair. I mean, we. Got the same gray. I love it, man. So very similar. I remember years ago, I just. I wanted to get a nice car. A sports car never owned one of my life. And so I finally ended up getting a Corvette, and I loved it. And it's pretty hot looking. And I did not get it for people to look at me. In fact, as I drove it down the street, I almost slouched in the chair as far as I could so people couldn't see me. It wasn't for people to say, Ooh, look at that guy. It was for me to say, I finally met that goal and I achieved it. And now it's like a trophy I get to drive on for myself and no one else. And I literally did not want people looking at me to come up to a stop sign and I'll see them in the corner of my eye and they're rolling down their window and they're shaking stuff at me. And I finally was like, All right. And I lower the window goes, Nice car, man. Thank you. Politely I say, thank you, but dang it, I don't want that. So anyway, I can totally relate with what you're saying. Yeah and yeah, I still want things like that. Like I want a massive house on the beach. That would be awesome. We're actually moving to Florida here pretty soon, we hope. Lots of fun stuff happening. And I'm in California near the beach. I just want I'm not going to go down that path. So let's get back to the good stuff. So one of the things I love talking about, especially with successful entrepreneurs like you, Luke, is this whole concept surrounding how we get business, how we get eyeballs to our business. It's this concept known as marketing in everyday terms. And what I love about it is it's always ebbing and flowing. And what I mean by that is what used to work ten years ago doesn't necessarily work today. And what is working today may not necessarily work ten years in the future for you. If you were to pinpoint one one strategy you are currently using in marketing that is working it and is crushing for you, what is that for you?
Alok Appadurai:
Right now is so simple because it actually falls in the category. You know, people ask me all the time, although now that your business cross that kind of like the Holy Grail, right? Only 6% of entrepreneurs will build a seven figure company. And you hit that and it's this kind of big moment. And people ask me, Well, what are you doing? What are you doing differently now as you head from 7 to 8 figures? And you know what my answer is?
Brian Kelly:
Nothing.
Alok Appadurai:
Nothing. Nothing different. Sure. I mean, I'm being a little facetious here. Like, you know, we might start dumping on some, you know, paid ads and all that stuff to start throwing some fuel on the fire. But, you know, I told you that we had this big event and we we did 1.4 million bucks in sales. We deleted most of the junk that you're supposed to do. And all those ra ra ra events, I deleted all of it. I made it like an absolutely intense, nonstop experience. We still closed 1.4 million bucks in sales, and I did it exactly the way I got to seven figures. I'm not stopping the stuff that got me to where I am. Everybody, please write that down. What got you to where you are? Keep doing it. And I'm going to tell you I'll answer exactly Brian's question. I value sacred human connection. Oh, yes. Write those three words down. Everybody you want. You want amazing things to happen in your life. You don't need a big, thick book to write down Sacred Human Connection. And I want to really define for everybody what that means for me, because everybody thinks, well, oh, is he talking about prospecting? No, I'm talking about building a sacred human connection with another human where you don't actually know the magic that might enfold. Maybe. Yes, they might come up with millions and join our 30 K year long program or whatever. But guess what I'm open to? Maybe I might become their client. I'm open that we might be a joint venture partner. I'm open that we might be podcast swapping. I don't even have a podcast yet. All right. I don't know what might emerge, y'all. You lean into you ramp up sacred human connection out of this show, literally commit right after the show is done, do whatever it is that Brian tells you you're supposed to go do. Okay, cool. Did you apply for the the five day vacation? That sounds amazing, but I almost say the whole way myself so I can put my name in the ring for that five day vacation by, what is it, the big secret insider. So big insider secrets. I think I read that wrong. Right? Like all the things, sacred human connection, you ramp that up, amazing things will start happening in your life.
Brian Kelly:
This is the biggest bomb run of the entire show. Ladies and gentlemen. Here we go. Load up the smart bombs. Bombs them. Those bombs live with them. Oh, I just I've had this discussion and each of the last three days with all these meetings I'm having with people on Zoom. Same exact thing my brother is like. Like I say, my show is not my business. I'm here to build relationships. And again, I'm not looking at that person as a money source of money for me. I'm looking at solely to build a relationship because I now know being 57 years old and going through this a little bit, that that stuff happens organically after you get to know them. People buy people. They don't buy stuff. They buy the relationship. And see, I love this. I've never gotten out of my trop on the other end. This is awesome. Yeah.
Alok Appadurai:
Listen to what he's saying to you. If you're not paying attention, you're an idiot right now. Listen to what he just said.
Brian Kelly:
Just think about. It. I mean, you don't have to be that sleazy snake oil salesman. Okay, that's going back to the Wild West. Car salesmen used car salesmen. You don't have to say, come to my website and buy my crap. Ever, ever. So here's what happens. You build a relationship. If there is a pain point you solve of theirs, it will come out in natural conversation. They will now at that point go, I know you, I like you and I trust you. My hesitation resistance level are zero. Let's do something on the other side, just like you said. Look, I can't tell you how many of the folks that I've made relationships with, like on this show or those people I became their client, many of them. I don't look at it as a one way transaction. It's like, how can we help each other? Maybe not at all. And that's okay too. Every single person I have on this show becomes my lifelong friend. It's fricking awesome.
Alok Appadurai:
Let me give you guys an example of this. Brian did me this solid. He said, Hey, so-and-so said that you might be a good guest. Can you be on my show? I said, Sure. Lots of people ask me to be on their shows. Hey, I'm on lots of shows. I do lots of these things. Brian. He's like, number one, this show is not about me. It's about you. I'm going to make this all about you. I want you all to pay attention here. Then I went through all of his systems for me to get ready for this show. And let me tell you, if he's telling you I help you create shows like this, I ask, What do you do? He said, I help people create shows like this alone because it's it's a ton of work, man. It's all he's not even pitching me, but I went through all of it. I'm telling you, if you're looking to be create a show like this, you're going to go hire that guy. Because I've been through all of his stuff and it is the real deal and it's legit.
Brian Kelly:
Wow. Thank you, brother. Oh, man, this. So I said it's supposed to be about you, and I mean it. So knock it off already. It's like. It's like this. Stop no more.
Alok Appadurai:
It's about reinforcing the power of. That's correct.
Brian Kelly:
That's right.
Alok Appadurai:
But it's about reinforcing the power of action, leading with value and creating rich, sacred human connections. Because then what do I do? I was like, how much your services? He's like, 25,000 bucks for the year. I was like, Awesome, thank you. Now I know that because why? I've got loads of clients that might be thinking they might be at the right phase for that level of organic marketing pop out.
Brian Kelly:
See, now I'm going to tell people, see, ladies and gentlemen, he gets it. Not because he's pitching me and helping me. He's helping everybody in the same manner that he meets the same exact manner. And you help enough people, it's bound to come back in some way, shape or form. Don't expect it. Don't ask for it. Just let it happen and it will guaranteed. I mean, that's I swear to goodness, man. I know you're younger than me. I think we're twins. We have to be. It's like uncanny.
Alok Appadurai:
Sacred human connections and let the magic of the universe unfolding and watch what happens.
Brian Kelly:
The issue I see is a lot, especially ones first starting out. I used to be one and I fall in that same camp. Is that mindset of scarcity worrying about that next check. So then we're more apt to do stuff we are not in alignment with in our values and we're asking for people to buy our stuff. We've all been there. We know that that's a stage to get through. The point is, is the faster you can get through that stage, into this stage that we're talking about, that's when you'll see the magic begin to unfold in front of your eyes. Oh.
Alok Appadurai:
Yeah. Here's here's a word. Write this down. Everybody delete the word competition.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, yeah.
Alok Appadurai:
There is no competition. What do you mean? Especially for the early stages, right? Because why? There's the FOMO and I've got to pay rent and I need to close that deal. And I don't want to. I don't want to lose them to so-and-so over there. I used to. This is so embarrassing. I used to not talk about my mentors because I was so afraid that somebody, rather than hiring me, would go hire the mentor.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah.
Alok Appadurai:
Right. And then I realized I got taught by a mentor. Why? Why do you do that? And I said, Well, yeah, I'll be honest. I'm a little scared about paying rent, and I don't want to brag. You up because then they might just cut past me and go to the source. And the mentor looked at me and goes, I'm not the source sources up there.
Brian Kelly:
Ooh. Oh. Oh.
Alok Appadurai:
I was like, and they're like, stop worrying about whether someone comes and hires me instead of you. If that was true, then that means vibrational, i.e. the frequency was aligned for that person to come to me and not you. Stop worrying that there's some lack. There's no lack. Delete the word lack. Stop it. I lived there for so long. So worried, so afraid. Not enough money out there. Not enough clients out there. There's more than any of us can serve. If you take all the business coaches in the world, for example, in my particular, I'm more moving into the leadership space. But let's let's call it business coaching. You could take all the business coaches that are existing on Earth, even the crappy ones that have no no ground to stand and take all of us. We still could never coach all the entrepreneurs out there. There's not even enough of us to worry about there not being enough clients for we're not even anywhere near the saturation point.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. And a thank you for all of that and to take it another step even beyond that, to make it even really crystal clear to everyone. Let's let's say that a look and I do the same exact thing a lot has five more years of experience and does it two and a half times better than I do you one person comes to both of us individually, one at a time. And if you don't have that scarcity mindset, if I don't, you're going to choose who you like the most. Who you feel more comfortable with, who you feel more confident with, who you trust more, who you just connect with better. Alok is a phenomenal guy that everyone can trust. I can be trusted, but there will be those differentiating factors. It has nothing or very little to do with your abilities. It's your desire and you're going to show them I'll do everything I can for you no matter what, and be honest and do it with integrity and the look, we'll do the same thing and you'll just say, Well, I choose. And it's not because one has that much more experience over the other, just like a local saying.
Alok Appadurai:
Let's make it more extreme, I'll reveal I all, I just share everything. The good, the bad, the ugly, all my failures You can hear me always seven figure business owner going to eight fingers. Got it. But I have so many bumps and bruises from along the path. You know, the insecurity, the self-doubt, the why me? Who would pick me, all the stuff. I just want to speak right into it for anyone watching. I said this to a mentor, right? I stood up because I invested in myself. I want you all to hear this. I currently pay my coach $10,000 a session, y'all. So I invest heavily into my expansion, my growth, because I know it's the fastest way to shift your circumstance. And I someone I'm a high achiever. I value time over money. I want you all to hear this. There's a big difference. You want to walk away from this. If you walk away with nothing else, value time over money rather than money over time. Back in my old days, I valued money over time, meaning I would do things a slow, dumb way where I would try to figure it out on my own and work really hard. I would work. I would outwork everybody. There was nobody that outworked me. And it's the dumbest and slowest way I could possibly do anything. And it was absolutely the path to failure. I thought I was doing the smart things. I was saving money and just working hard. Now, successful people value time over money. They hate wasting time because they know that money is an endless resource that you can always get more of. Time is a finite resource that you can never get back. So successful people go, What's the fastest way I can understand whatever it is I need so that I can get the result that I want? Unsuccessful people go, What's the slowest way I could do? Is that the cheapest way that I perceive as cheap? And then they earn the whole way. By the way, that used to be me. Don't do that.
Brian Kelly:
Card carrying member former.
Alok Appadurai:
Don't do that. So I stood up and I said to this mentor in front of 100 other people in the mastermind, and I literally said, the thing I'm hung up on is that, yes, I'm getting all these clients. My one on one roster was full. I think at the time where it was I was doing about 200 grand a year to 200 and to 50 somewhere in there. So I was already I was already in a different league than the vast majority of my peers, but I knew I was not even scratching the surface, number one. And number two, I had all this imposter syndrome going on. And for anyone out there, if you're an entrepreneur and you've had imposter syndrome, pay attention to what I'm about to tell you. I raised my hand. I was shaking, I was quaking. I was at the mic and I was just like, I can't even believe I'm about to say this in front of all these people who know that I'm decently successful at what I do here, and I'm about to out myself completely out myself. I stood at that mic in front of 100 people. We were down in Guatemala. We were kind of in a converted church. And I said the following. I said, I don't understand why, why? Why would someone hire me when they could go hire Tony Robbins? They could hire Brendan Bouchard. I started listing all these heavy hitters. And then I shut my mouth. And my mentor at the time looked at me and goes. Because it's, you know, I'm like, is that it? What? That's it? No. He then went on and he illuminated. He said, It's because of the sound of your voice, your laughter, your life, your life's story. That unique journey that only you have had. And what I realized was that many people picked me because unlike a lot of the big heavy hitters, the big names, the grand card owns, any of them. I've actually put 20 years into building social impact companies that were specifically dedicated to the upliftment of humanity. Now, I'm not saying that's a better or worse thing. I'm not I'm not comparing I'm not saying that that's somehow better than somebody else's run.
Alok Appadurai:
What I'm saying, what my mentor helped me see in that moment was it made my journey unique to me. And then many people who would watch my TEDx talk about feeding 500,000 meals to people in need. It just made me different, not better. Different. And it allows people to go, You know what? That guy's built a clean energy company that converted garbage to electricity fuel. He built a global media platform to uplift women and body image. He built a sustainable clothing company that fed 500,000 meals to people in need. And now he runs Uplift Millions, which is a coaching consulting company that helps entrepreneurs who value people, plan and plot profit scale 6 to 8 figure companies. Okay. That's the guy I'm going to go with. Right. So don't worry about comparing yourself to the big names. Be you, be all of you and let it rip. Let the world see the fullness of who you are. That'll help them decide. Am I going to go with the other person who offers the same services, or am I going to go with you?
Brian Kelly:
He said it. Let it rip. So we're going to. Let it rip. Oh. Oh, yes. I haven't had these many bombing runs in a long time, and I am not kidding. This is phenomenal. Yeah. And I want to now segue into that. You mentioned your new or your current venture uplift millions. And I'm deeply curious myself and I was hoping that you would be open to describing what it is you do and the kind of people you serve. Is it. Is it business owners, entrepreneurs? Is it moms? Is it families? Is a corporation? It's all the above. Some of the above. And then if I would love, love, love, love to hear a success story that really sticks out in your mind, that really pulls at your heart and emotion strings for the group. Would you be okay with doing that?
Alok Appadurai:
Yeah, that'd be. Please do it. You know, it's so funny, Brian. You know, I have friends from high school and college and grade school and stuff and, you know, they follow me on Facebook and I literally will have them say they're like, I don't know what the heck you do with people, but I get the sense that when they hire you, they make more money. Is that right?
Brian Kelly:
I'm like, That's a good thing.
Alok Appadurai:
It's kind of like all you need to know, you know? And they're like, I'm pretty sure they're kind of good hearted people that who I want to do good in the world. You. You have to make more money. Is that right? I'm like, that's pretty much it. Just just, you know. But all jokes aside, you know, people come up with millions. They typically are impact driven entrepreneurs, heart led entrepreneurs. They yes, they want to make a lot of money and they want to be successful and they want the big fancy house and maybe they want the Corvette and all that stuff, but they also want to make an impact. They know that they're here with a bigger mission. They stand for something bigger than themselves. So are people typically are are results driven leaders and entrepreneurs who are dedicating their life to making a positive impact in the world. And they want to use business as their vehicle for doing that. So they come up with millions because they know that about themselves. They know that they're an expert at what they do. That's a critical piece. Honestly, if you suck at what you do, I ain't going to be able to help you move the needle. I need to know that you're excellent. Brian mentioned earlier 10000 hours to improve and gain mastery. Maybe you're not quite a 10000 hours deep. Maybe you're at 2000 hours, 3000 hours. But you are highly committed. You are highly committed to what you do and who you are in the world, and you stand for that bigger mission. As long as I hear three components, I need to know that they are an entrepreneur leader who is, number one extraordinary at what they do. Committed. Deeply committed. Most entrepreneurs, by the way, talk a big game, but they really just don't want a job. And honestly, most of them should just go get a job because they don't treat being an entrepreneur like a full time actual commitment. So I need you have to be extraordinary at what you do. You have to be completely committed to your mission and vision and being willing to do the work.
Alok Appadurai:
And then the third one is another C word most people would think I'm about to say confident. I actually don't even need confidence. What I need is courage. I am looking for absolutely courageous entrepreneurs and leaders because confidence is a result. Courage is a decision. Confidence is a result. Courage is a decision. If you weren't paying attention, rewatch this video. So we work with those people and then they come to us. And here are the range of problems that we start reducing. Usually they've got a leadership problem. They don't actually they haven't really stepped into the fullness of their leadership identity, who they're going to be evolving into. So I accelerate the timeline between where your who you currently are and the version of you who will get to multiple six figures or seven figures or eight figures or whatever your number is. Number two. From there, we are probably going to work on your marketing issues. And again, we don't do paid advertising. We don't do paid Facebook ads. I'm not against it. I'm just saying that's not our skill set, but organic. What Brian's talking about with all sorts of different ways that you can grow organically without paid advertising. That is our wheelhouse. Number three, we're going to fix your sales problems. Woo! Man! People just struggle. Struggle to price their services and products appropriately, package them up and be able to actually sell and close. That means you got ink on the contract and you got money across the table and into the bank account from their operations. And delivery would be the final pieces that people come to us for brand optimization, a bunch of other parts. But basically short answer is, if you are those first three characteristics, I'll help them move the needle so that you can make more money and then make more impact in the world.
Brian Kelly:
And then no matter what the price point investment is, don't don't think about that. Think about what is the result going to bring back.
Alok Appadurai:
Yeah. I mean, I can give you a couple of clients, right? You got you got your big heavy hitters. One of my clients and Nike ended up doing 75,000 on January 1st. In a day, we just had clients that did 24024 hours, which sounds crazy and I don't mean those timeframes as like some out of the box thing, they had to do a bunch of legwork to get the result right. Let's not let's not kid anybody. You hear these things? Oh, my God. In 12 hours. Right. But it's because of all the legwork that they put in. Right. But the story that I'd really like to tell you is actually not one of the big, huge whoppers, you know, not like Brian Haines, who did 330,008 weeks. All those those are the big ones. And you can go to my testimonials, page up with millions of testimonials. You want to see the big juicy ones? I'm going to tell you one that's not on there. It's a woman in Canada. Her hands are weathered. Weathered. Her name is Kitty. Incredible human, one of the most amazing humans I know. She's autistic and she cleaned houses, which is why her fingers are like this. Weathered hands. These are the hands of a woman who knows work. She had been through many other programs and because of her autism, many other programs took her for a ride because she said yes very easily. I want you all to hear this, because this is this is one of the stories that made me cry when I got the message, private message. And nobody's going to see this big, huge result because not going to blow anybody else away except me. She came into my program. I was honest with her. I was real with her. I knew her. I understood her autism to the very best of my ability. I had honest conversations about what I needed from her so that she wasn't just spending money on another program. And I said to her, Look, this is what's going to look like, Kitty. I said, We're going to play full out. And when I got a message from her and by the way, I want you to hear this to everybody, this wasn't when she was during my program.
Alok Appadurai:
This wasn't one. She was my client. Why? Because I don't give up on people afterwards. I want to hear from them for years. Boom. A message comes in, Brian and she says she dropped me a box or messages, a voice memo. And she says, look, I just need you to know I landed my first $2,997 client. Not only that, they are painful. She takes care of her 85 year old father. And when I heard when I got that message, Brian, I teared up. I teared up because this is a woman, autistic woman, who's worked her ass off with physical manual labor for years to the point that her hands are like this. And here she is. She's doing decluttering both now physical and mental brain decluttering. That's how she's had to do autism and cleaning houses. It's brilliant, she said. They paid in full. And I'll tell you source moved through me, I said. Source literally whispered in my ear, said, You change that woman's life, you change the trajectory of their life. So yes, everybody, I can tell you the big flashy stories. Lots of people have gotten big, huge results in my orbit. Okay, great. But it's that story. A kid in Mackay having her first $2,997 pay in full and getting to feel all that money. When I want you all to imagine how much you think she got paid cleaning houses in her life.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah.
Alok Appadurai:
Let think about how many hours she worked. Hands to the bone to get $2,997 flowing into her accounts. That is a story I wanted to share with all your people may not seem flashy, but it is life changing.
Brian Kelly:
It is the most impactful. And I just want everyone watching and listening to understand this deeply that he just gave you the roadmap to success right there. Bingo also gave you the absolute roadmap to success. It's not. Not once did he say, and I made 50 grand off of her or whatever she paid him. His joy. You could see it. You could feel it. This is what drives successful businessmen and women. And that is he just he evoked it just there. His emotion is getting that emotion.
Alok Appadurai:
My former client, Tobias Sharp, she went to two rounds. She did her level one. She did her level two. She did well. She did well. You know, solid. But what touched me about. What? What was the date? Four or five months later, I get a message. She says, Look, I've stepped into my CEO identity. I now have a team of three. We've just had our first back to back 35 k months. Thank you so much for everything. Literally even right now, it gives me the full chills because she's on just literally she's stepping into her power. And I know that her trajectory is different for the rest of her life.
Brian Kelly:
So if you're in business to help people to elevate their life and that's your M.O., then you can achieve the level of success. And beyond that A is at right now, it's that simple.
Alok Appadurai:
Commit to mastery. Commit to mastery. Brian opened with the bookmark section. I'm sorry that I don't remember the exact the thing, the name of the bookmark section, but I brought this one. I brought this one to show all of y'all. This is not my book. Happy pocket, full of money. You want to. You want a writer? Downer, write this one down. I don't even want to make the focus. Go out. Happy pocket full of money. This guy, this is. I send this to all of our clients. You want a gem and don't quit because it's a little woo woo at the beginning. Read the whole thing. This book will rock your mind about money, quantum fields, energy, space, time, continuum stuff that you might even not even believe. I don't care if you don't believe it, just read it and allow it into your consciousness. Now, why do I say that? Because I've read a statistic. Highly successful people read 60 books a year. I'm not I don't hit that mark yet. But they are readers. They are learners. I tell people all the time they what's your secret source? I go, I outbrain everybody I know. I learn I'm a non type. I say to my son, I said, Son, I don't care about anything except that you keep learning. That's all I care. And I said, Daddy's a learner. Caitlyn's a learner. Your mom's a learner. Her husband's a learner. We are learners in our family. And I would assess, learn, learn, learn.
Brian Kelly:
And I would venture to guess that you are also doers because know five languages.
Alok Appadurai:
Everybody write this down. Sorry, four languages and they're all tied together. Thinking, writing, speaking, doing, thinking, writing, speaking, doing. These are the same language. I noticed everybody I included doing speaking, sorry, thinking, speaking, writing, doing, thinking, speaking, writing, doing, thinking, speaking, writing, doing. When you all who are watching this, when you shrink the gap between your thinking, writing and speaking those three and doing. And you make them all in harmony. And listen, if you all want the biggest gem and this should definitely get a carpet bomb. Don't say anything you won't do.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, yeah, baby.
Alok Appadurai:
Don't say anything that you won't do. If you do it. And that's why this is my biggest level on myself. I am not perfect in this, but what I am committed to is reducing reducing the percentage of what I say that I don't do. Yes. And now, by the way, this is not even just the big things like getting up, booking that sales call, doing that marketing post, running that big event, whatever. I'm actually talking about you bringing this all the way into the small party. I got frustrated with myself because the other day a client of mine named a move me, a movie called Everything Everywhere All at Once. It's a new movie that's streaming. And I had just heard of that movie from friends of mine in a text message thread. So I thought and I said these words, I want you all to hear this. I said these words to my client. I said, Great, I'll watch it tonight. I got to tonight. This was two nights ago, laid on the couch. I was tired, looked at my phone, was about to pull it. I pulled it up and I thought and it's not really what I want to watch tonight. Now. I could have as easily said, I'm going to watch it over the next couple of weeks. But you hear that everybody. I lied to myself. I said something and I didn't do it. I'm giving you guys the example. So you see that I'm not saying this at you. I'm saying this as my biggest up level. You want to track people, track the up levels that successful people challenge themselves to fail at, track the up levels that successful people do to challenge themselves to fail at. So I caught it. You said you were going to do it. You didn't do it. Oc bang. Raise the bar. Raise the bar, y'all. If you say it, do it. Make there complete congruence between the four elements I just listed. Thinking, speaking. Have your speaking align with your thinking. If you think it, speak it. If you speak it, write it. If you write it, do it.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. That just that just defines in my word, in my mind one word called integrity. And integrity is for other people. But it's not just for other people. It's even more important that you are in have integrity with yourself. And you just went through that example because if you lie to yourself, you know it and it shows up in your your being until you write that shit.
Alok Appadurai:
That's correct. And I wanted to out myself, too, for my own accountability. Right. It's like, hey, that happened. Raise the bar. Luke raised the bar. The fastest way to raise the bar is to align your doing and your thinking as soon as those are aligned. Bang! Watch what starts happening. The speed of change will actually possibly scare you and overwhelm you. It will start happening so fast that you'll need coaching on the speed of the expansion.
Brian Kelly:
I love it.
Alok Appadurai:
You started with coaching because you were stuck as shit in a gutter somewhere and then when you start doing this stuff, you will need coaching to handle the speed of the expansion.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. A lot of people think they hit a certain level. They're done. They don't have to do anything else. It's no. You get the next coach that can take you to the next level.
Alok Appadurai:
That's correct. You get the next coach to handle the next set of problems you're going to experience.
Brian Kelly:
I mean, come on. Look, if you hit the top and there was no more there was no more coaches to help you go any farther, I would be bored as heck, I would think. Is this life? No. Life should forever be a climbing experience, a learning experience and expanding if and that's I think what drives entrepreneurs is that there is no ceiling. We just keep going and we don't.
Alok Appadurai:
Know the ceiling on this one. Know the secret sauce that I just learned in the last year on this that I wish someone had said to me about 20 years ago.
Brian Kelly:
Yes, please.
Alok Appadurai:
Because I was always like, how to say it in terms of being a results driven leader. That's my identity. That's who I surround myself with. That's who our clients are. If you're not a results driven leader, like don't even bother. In my world, I'm not judging you. Go hire somebody else. Go let someone else take your money. But you shouldn't be giving anybody your money, by the way, if you're not a results driven leader. I'm just saying. But for me, I was it was always on the metrics, right? The six figure, the multiple six figure, the seven figure, the this 100 K months, the 200 K months of 300 K months, whatever. Right. Being. Being when you recognize that the growth in your beingness never ends. That is the real journey. So whether that's me expanding who I'm being as the CEO and the leader of my company, whether it's who I'm being as a father to Sequoyah, who I'm being in my relationship to Caitlyn, which, by the way, no major work to do there. Right. Improving love my lady to death. Got a lot of work to do. Wasn't quite modeled how to be a man. Right. So growth in your being miss. And when you realize that, that never ends. That never ends. Commit to evolving who you're being in the world and watch. Whew. Watch what happens.
Brian Kelly:
I'm inspiring and I'm looking at the clock. We went over our hour, so we're going to go another hour for we're watching. We could easily I could go easy. Oh, man. Without even any effort whatsoever. This is I love what I get to do. I look and you're the big reason why. Thank you for all of this. I want to go at another.
Alok Appadurai:
Job you have.
Brian Kelly:
It is. I'm the most blessed person on the planet. I love this. So I did promise before everyone drops off. That I. Would give them a way to win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. And I also heard a little bird told me that this some certain person might have something for you as well. So we're going to do both of those right now. And then I do. I close every show out with one bomb of a question. And you're going to love it. And it's very profound. It's very unique. And I cannot wait. But before we do that, here we go. For those of you watching, write this down. Remember to write it. We will pick a winner after the show. You can enter after the show is over. Don't sweat it. You have time. I'm going to put it up on the screen for those of you watching live. All you need to do is go to this Web address, write this down. Our WIP that stands for Reach Your Peak, which is my company or WIP. I am forward slash vacation and guest experts are allowed to enter and I've had them win. This is pretty phenomenal. I don't play. Those games so ripe for such a vacation. Be sure to enter that it is a bona fide vacation. You are not going to be taken into a basement water, drip torture and given a timeshare preach about anything. It is as if you are an actual full paying customer. And the reason I know that is our very sponsor has been on those trips three times separately and every time he said, I'll just read like another vacationer, which was incredibly well. And then the little birdie that told me that there was something maybe and I'll let look, take it away on this one. I'll put it up on the screen and maybe give a description how people can go after that.
Alok Appadurai:
Yeah. Awesome. We've got 156 trainings, about 12 hours that I've done over the years, and we put them into a CEO training vault. So if you all are, please don't do it. If you're like not actually serious about committing to a I would really request a heart led business, right? You actually care about people but go to we uplift millions. We do not uplift millions. You just have to answer for questions that just let us know that you're actually a real person and not just some spammer who wants to come in and annihilate our community. But it's a whole community and training platform in there for mission led entrepreneurs who want to make the world a better place. So you can go get 156 trainings free. We will eventually. Everybody let you know it will eventually be a $97 a month thing. So just go go there and go watch all of it. It's it's the free vault. And so we got up with millions for anyone out there. Go get free access to all of it.
Brian Kelly:
So is it we? We.
Alok Appadurai:
Yep, yep. Just we got uplift millions.
Brian Kelly:
So you see on the screen uplift millions. Put we dot in front of that. That's right.
Alok Appadurai:
Just we got up of millions and you'll once you're in go to the CEO training vault in the courses and you'll just see across leadership sales, marketing, closing deals. There's just it's a ton of like legit gems. It's not shallow junk in there.
Brian Kelly:
What? Maybe things that actually work in real life.
Alok Appadurai:
Yeah, yeah, maybe things that I actually do, you know.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, that's, that's beautiful. And I want to tell people that putting together any training course that is in that is a work of passion. It takes some serious effort to put together a good comprehensive training course. So thank you. My gosh, to give that for free is unbelievable. And yes, everyone, please treat it with the utmost of respect. Act as though you paid ten grand for it.
Alok Appadurai:
That's correct.
Brian Kelly:
Put some value behind it, because a lot of you know how many times I've been given things that someone from stage is selling for 5.97. Oh, you're my friend. Here's a course of 50 CDs and I'd bring it home and I'm excited. And because I didn't pay a dime, you guess how many times I opened that case and listen to those CDs, right? Zero. Don't be that. Don't be a zero like I was. Don't be a zero like I was. Take what he's got, give it some value and get go deep and treat it as though you spend a lot of money. And if you don't succeed at this, you just lost that money. You got to show some pain involved. So go get them. So we have that one. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We have that one final amazing question.
Alok Appadurai:
I'm excited.
Brian Kelly:
Wow, that's good. Yeah. And the cool thing about this question I look is that there is no such thing. As a wrong answer. Or in fact, the exact opposite is the case. The only correct answer is yours.
Alok Appadurai:
Oc.
Brian Kelly:
Because it's going to be unique to you and some will have the answer like that. Some get the answer after a few seconds, maybe even a minute or two. Even that is perfect because it's your answer. So there's no way to fail. Flub. And now, with all that, it makes people more nervous than if I have something. Square.
Alok Appadurai:
To my pants here.
Brian Kelly:
All right. Are you. Ready? Yeah. We should try to have fun on this show just once.
Alok Appadurai:
Seriously, man, you got to loosen up a little bit.
Brian Kelly:
But all.
Alok Appadurai:
Look a little tightly wound.
Brian Kelly:
There. It's all good. Whoa. I hope I didn't hit that. Yeah, good. I've got my finger on a button, so here we go. Luke.
Alok Appadurai:
Yeah. Pottery. You got it.
Brian Kelly:
How do you. Define. Success.
Alok Appadurai:
Oh, man. Very simple. For me, success is being able to look your 90 year old self in the face. And know that you played full out and that you made that version of you proud and that by the time you're getting to that zone, you know that you can look them in the face and they'll say to you, You have no regrets. You have no regrets and you lived into your highest and fullest expression. And you don't look at that 80 year old, 90 year old version of yourself and realize there's tremendous disappointment. You know, this this came out for me when I was 19 years old. I was driving in north India and I had a spiritual experience where I it was a near-death experience. And one of these crazy drives in India, if you're if you're imagining a crazy drive in India, that's probably what it was. And my 80 year old self sat next to me. I was on the investment banking track. I was on track to just go make a ton of money and extract as much money out of economies as I possibly could, all for my benefit. My 80 year old self looked at me and said three questions. Who do you spend your time with? Did it matter? And what did you do with your life? Right. And and in that moment, literally looking at my ethereal future self, I was like, oh, my God, I will regret this entire path. So for any of you listening, success to me is being able to know that you lived in alignment with your soul's true mission and that you played full out to the best of your ability and that you got no regrets.
Brian Kelly:
And you know how we end this out, don't you? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. You are an amazing, amazing man. I appreciate you. You're like my brother by another mother. And truly, I mean that. I mean, it's, like, amazing. We got to. We got to connect at some point. You're not too far away from me being in Tucson. And I appreciate you your. Your family is. Blessed. And anyone who comes in contact with you is blessed because you put everything you have into what you have because you want the best for them, whether they're part of your family or not. You already eloquently discussed that. Thank you, my brother. I so appreciate you for coming on.
Alok Appadurai:
It's so good, my man. I mean, you know, I was thinking we could meet up and there's this place I've been wanting to go called Lancaster, California.
Brian Kelly:
Not for the. Location, but, yeah, if you want to come out and say hi. Oh, come on, let's do it. Let's do. It. I'm ready. Bring the fam. Let's have a good time.
Alok Appadurai:
That's it. I heard it. So I heard it's a vacation destination.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, yeah, baby, it's paradise. You got it. That's all right. On behalf of real honor. It's all mine, brother. Thank you so much. On behalf of the amazing. Oh, look, I am your host, Brian Kelly of the Mind Body Business Show. And until next time, please go out, sir. People crush it, and above all, be blessed. So long, everybody. Thank you for tuning in to the. Mind Body Business Show podcast at WW. The Mind Body Business Show. My name is Brian Kelly.
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Alok Appadurai
Alok Appadurai is Founder & CEO of Uplift Millions LLC, a global coaching + consulting company for impact-led entrepreneurs & leaders who are growing 6-8 figure companies that value people, planet and profit. Alok is the Wall Street Journal Best-Selling Author of Maximum Impact Potential based on his 20+ years of experience as a social impact entrepreneur. He is also a TEDxSpeaker on feeding 500,000 meals to people in need, won a STEVIE Award for Best Entrepreneur, was selected for the new reality show "4 Days To Save The World" and is a proud father to Sequoia and partner to Caitlin.
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Narrator :
So, here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us, who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back. Who are dedicated, determined, and driven. How do we finally break through and win? That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly, and this is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show.
Brian Kelly:
Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Super excited for tonight's show. We have not just one, not two, not three, but four, four amazing guest experts who are joining me tonight right here on this very stage.
Brian Kelly:
They are waiting in the wings at this moment. So let's get busy. Shall we? The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, that is a show about what I call the three pillars of success, and that came about as a result of my study of only successful people in the last decade or so. And these patterns kept bubbling to the top and those patterns being mine, which is mindset set. Each and every successful person, to a person, had a very powerful and flexible mindset. So I learned that and said," I need to implement that". Then body: body is about literally taking care of yourself. Through nutrition and through exercise, exercising on a regular basis, and again that was another pattern of very successful people and in business. These successful people had mastered the skill-sets that were necessary to create, maintain, and grow a thriving business. They're wide and varied. It's like marketing, sales, team-building, systematizing. It goes on and on and on, leadership. There's no one person, in my humble opinion, that could master every single one of these. All you have to do is master just one, and I actually mentioned one of those. It was in that list. I don't know if anyone caught that, but if you master just one of those skill sets then you're good to go. That skill set is leadership. When you've mastered the skill set of leadership, you can then delegate those skills off to people who have those skill sets. See where I'm going? Good. That's what successful people do; the ones that I studied, anyway, over the course of about 10 years. That's what this show's about. It's a show for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs. I got four guests waiting, and I'm not going to wait any longer. So, I think we should just bring them on. What do you think? Let's do it.
Narrator :
It's time for the guest expert spotlight, savvy, skillful, professional and deft, trained, big league, qualified.
Brian Kelly:
And there they all are. These amazing, beautiful guests on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. How are you all doing? Altogether, too. That was phenomenal, I love that. So real quick. All of you, I hope you don't mind for just a moment. I want to do some housekeeping? I wanted to mention to everyone watching here live. If you stay with us till the end, you can win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. All compliments of our friends at The big insider secrets dotcom. You see them flying by on the bottom of the screen right now. It's an amazing, amazing vacation stay. Stay until the end, and you'll learn how you can enter to win that wonderful prize. We also have this. If you're struggling with putting on a live show, and it's overwhelming and you want a lot of the processes done for you while still enabling you to put on a high-quality show. And connect with great people like the ones we have tonight, and to grow your business all at the same time, then head on over to carpet bomb marketing dotcom. Carpet bomb marketing, saturate the marketplace with your message. One of the key components that is contained in the carpet bomb marketing courses, and this is one that you'll learn how to absolutely master, is the very service we use to stream our live shows right here on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Over the course of the past, now it's over nine years, we have tried many of these, "TV studio solutions" for live streaming. I'll tell you right now, Stream Yard is the best of the best. It combines supreme ease of use along with unmatched functionality. So, go ahead. You can start streaming high-quality, professional live shows for free. Yes, I said it. For free, with Stream Yard right now. Visit this website, and do this after the show over. Take notes while the show is going. So write this down R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. Fantastic. Now let's get to the real fun, and the fun is these amazing people. Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. How are you all doing tonight? Thank you for being on this amazing show. Yes. So, what I'd like to do is open it up. Let the folks get to know you just a little bit now. Ok, guys. We're talking sixty seconds or less. All right. Just lay it low here, but we'll just go and order. I usually go ladies first, but let's just go around the circle. It's easier for me who's running the show. So. That's what's important. Right? So, let's start with Dylan Shinholser. Go ahead. Take it away. Give us a little brief background about you, what you do, and your business.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. So like I said, my name is Dylan Shinhoser. I own a couple of different businesses. I'm owner of a company called, "Experience Events", which is event management. I'm also a director of business development at a virtual event, event ticketing, and virtual event platform called, "ViewStub". As well as a co-host of another show called, "Event Masters", where I just ramble all day, every day about how to produce better experiences. It's really all I know and love to do is events. That is my less than 60-second pitch about myself.
Brian Kelly:
That's a good one, too. I'll tell everybody I've spoken with you in person. We had a call some time ago, and this gentleman, Dylan, is made of integrity and great character. So, reach out to him if you need any assistance in any of the areas he talked about, or if you just want to say hi to a really great guy. Then get in contact with him, and at the end of the show, we'll go through that. Please. Somebody remind me if I forget how to contact each of you. Because that's very important to me. This is the reason I bring this show to the forefront. (It) is to bring people like you into the lives of those who may not know who you are yet, and even those that do, to experience even more of your brilliance, your experience, your knowledge, and your value. It's not about me. This is about you. Always, always. Every time. I have one guest, usually. I just feel like I'm in this big family right now. But let's keep moving. Julie Riley, amazing young woman. Take it away.
Julie Riley:
Yes. So, I am Julie Riley. I am the social media manager at StreamYard. The platform we're using right now. Prior to my time with StreamYard, I owned my own marketing agency. I've been in digital marketing since two thousand and seven. So the very, very early days of the start of it is when I jumped in(to) digital marketing, and I love just being able to help others succeed in their business.
Brian Kelly:
Fantastic, and I will also say that I have spoken with Julie in the past. Both through a typewritten chat form and verbally. I think it was Clubhouse first time, which was phenomenal. Yet another phenomenal person, incredible integrity, and character. And yes, you're going to notice there's a pattern about this with the remaining two. It's the same thing. Hopefully, we can get the last one to talk a little bit. That will be nice. I'm just having fun because we were having fun before the show started. The one smiling. The biggest down there with the green hood; not pointing anyone out or anything. Thank you, Julie, for coming on. Yes. These people, Julie and Christian specifically, I know Christians coming up here in second. They're non-stop. They don't stop working. It's evident because of the very software research we're using right now. It's of grand quality for a reason. It's because of people like Julian Christian who keep everything rolling smoothly on the back end. Dylan's there nodding his head emphatically because he gets it. It's a lot of work, and they're doing it masterfully and we appreciate you. All right. Enough of the favoritism here that felt like favoritism. Julie's our favorite. Timothy McNeely! My buddy, my friend from just a little north of where I reside. I believe. If I remember.
Timothy McNeely:
Central California, baby. Bakersfield. Yeah, my name is Tim McNeely. Today, so many dentists and driven entrepreneurs are just not sure if they're getting advice that really makes a difference for them. They may have a financial adviser who is giving them some advice on their investment portfolio, but they're not really sure that they're on the right track to really maximize their net worth outside of their business. That's what I help them do. Maximize your net worth so that you can keep taking care of the people you love, support the causes you care about, really make that difference in the world, and build an amazing life of significance. I love doing streaming because I get to talk to some of the best of the best out there and share the knowledge with the beautiful entrepreneurial community.
Brian Kelly:
I'll tell you something on a personal note as well. Literally, we talked earlier today, Tim and I, on a Zoom call. He just reached out to me and said, "let's catch up." I had him on the show some time ago as a single, solo guest, and he was phenomenal. We've just kind of maintained a relationship, a friendship ever since. He just wanted to reach out and say, "Hi" and "What's up? What do you want to talk about?" We just started talking about business and things. He gave me resources that will help me in my business, and hopefully, I reciprocated it somehow. I don't know if I did, but it is the people like Tim, like Julie, like Dylan, like Christian. That is the cloth that they are all cut from. They are here to help people. That's why I love entrepreneurs. I love all of you. I mean it. I do. I love you. You guys are amazing. I didn't even get a crack at a Christian on that one. Jeez, I mean... there we go. That's a little better, but I'm telling you, he's working on StreamYard our stuff right now as we're on the show. I mean, I'm.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm really trying not to, seriously.
Brian Kelly:
The founder Geige Vandentop. If you ever watch this, there's a message to you. Ease up on your people. Alright? Just having fun. Alright, Timothy, you're an amazing guy. Thank you for spending your valuable time and coming on here. As well as Dylan, Julie, and the ever so talkative one, Christian. I'm not going to attempt to say your last name. I'll let you take care of that one. Welcome to the show, Christian. Let's hear all about your brilliance.
Christian Karasiewicz:
Sure. Thanks a lot for having me. My name is Christian Kerasiewicz. I'm the content marketing manager at StreamYard. So, pretty much anything you see on our blog that we're going to soon be launching. I'm the mastermind behind that. So, I do that. In addition to that, I also host live stream reviews, a YouTube show. We also do on the StreamYard YouTube channel where we invite people on to talk about their live streams and help them work through some of their problems, some of their challenges that they might be having with getting community or building a show. Thanks a lot for having me. I appreciate it.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, my gosh. Thank you again, Christian, for your time and being here. I mean, he's literally building a blog while on a live show. I mean, that's a great thing. I'm not even kidding with this one. That is phenomenal. That is showing such dedication. So, it's more than that. It's passion. It's love. You know? What time is that where you are, Christian?
Christian Karasiewicz:
About 9 o'clock, or yeah... about 9 o'clock.
Brian Kelly:
(Nine o'clock) PM. Ladies and gentlemen, in case you're watching this recording. Yes. By the way, I'm going to be on twenty-five different platforms after this is over. So no pressure, but don't mess up. I'm just kidding. So, this is a phenomenal group of people, and I can't wait to dig in. Christian, just what you just said, what you do is right down the alley of what I was hoping to talk about tonight. It'll go organically, but I wanted to talk about... I mean, look at Julie, and look at Christian, and look at their images. Look at their video. It is gorgeous. Here, we'll start with a really gorgeous one first. Look at that. I mean. If there were nose hairs that weren't in place, we'd see them. That's phenomenal, and there is Julie. Wow. Very beautiful. Even more beautiful. I should just have her up like this all the time, and we can just talk in the background. Because, you know, maybe more people would come on. So, you guys have phenomenal camera setups, and here's one thing I always like to preach to those who are getting into the live streaming game. Does it take money? Yes, it does. It takes resources. It takes cameras, microphones, (a) computer, internet, good internet, fast internet, lighting, doesn't have to be fancy. What I always say though, is, do the best you can with the resources you currently have. OK, I wanted to start it off that way because what we're about to talk about with Julie and Christian is their cameras. They are top of the line. We're not talking a one-hundred or two-hundred-dollar webcam here. I like to let ladies go first. So, Julie, do you have a story when you first turned on your new camera versus when you had the webcam and what that looked like and felt like.
Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh, I turned that camera on, and it was immediately noticeable (the difference). I actually did a live on my personal Facebook page where I logged myself in as a second user into StreamYard. I had my Logitech camera that I had been using up as a camera and then had my new one. So, I could do back and forth and show everybody the difference between the two. What an upgrade that was. The Logitech served me great for years. It didn't stop me from going live, but that upgrade was immediately like, "oh, I can never go back down now".
Brian Kelly:
So, that so that is one thing. Let's say you're on the road, and I can imagine at some point both you and Christian, maybe, you'll be sent on the road to maybe support conventions and things that are on the road. Now, you want to stream live, what are you going to do then?
Julie Riley:
Well, you know, the great thing about the Sony is (that) it's a small camera. Tripods, portable ones, are small. I can take it with me. If all else fails, and I'm either on my phone or I'm on my little webcam or even my built in webcam, it's not going to stop me from going live. Is it going to be exactly what I want? No, but more than likely I'll have the Sony with me.
Brian Kelly:
Thank you for saying that. I mean, that spoke such volumes. I hope people are taking notes that are watching. Definitely take notes on this. Because, look, the show must go on. That's what I say, and this show tonight is the result of a guest who unfortunately was ill and could not make it on. So, I scrambled and found these four wonderful people to say, "I'll come on and do a panel with you." And that's it. The show must go on, and I'm going to either do it with people or I'll do it solo. It doesn't matter. Consistency is key, and we can talk more about that, too. I love how you're just talking about, Julie. Where, look, I don't care where I'm at. If I've got something and it's my time to go live, and I don't have my gear. I'm doing it.
Julie Riley:
Right.
Brian Kelly:
I love that commitment. So, thank you for that. For everyone listening, that's important. Yes, quality is important. Like I said, do the best you can with what resources you currently have. That includes, wherever you are. You may have a DSL camera that Julie paid five-hundred thousand dollars for. Oh, sorry, it wasnt that much.
Julie Riley:
Thank God it wasnt that much!
Brian Kelly:
What was the model of that again?
Julie Riley:
A6000.
Brian Kelly:
What does it run about?
Julie Riley:
It was about seven hundred.
Brian Kelly:
OK, not too bad. A little bit less than five-hundred thousand. Not much but yeah.
Julie Riley:
Yeah.
It's a phenomenal thing, and I love that that's your attitude toward commitment. I'll tell you. You have a similar attitude...anytime I go and ask for support through the back side of StreamYard community. I mean, like through messaging. When I say the backside, that's sounded weird. When I ask for support, you're always there. I mean, you don't sleep, and I appreciate that. So, keep not sleeping for everybody's sake. Christian, you do the same. So, Christian, what about you? When you made that initial change from whatever camera you had before to this unbelievably clear one year look you're working with right now. What did that feel like the moment you saw a difference?
Christian Karasiewicz:
So, it's very interesting actually. So, this is actually what I was using before. I've been using this for quite a number of years. This is a Logitech Brio. It does do 4K. I invested in this one and eventually came out, and the quality was fantastic. The only thing was, though. I wanted to scale. So this was great for traveling, for example. This is what I took around with me. Super portable. It's got the ability to put it on a tripod. Fantastic, but it did not allow me to scale, so I had to always take up another USB port and all that sort of thing. When I moved to the Sony, the Sony looked very good. I will say the one thing you have to do, though, is you need to go through the settings. There are a few adjustments you want to change. That's what's going to actually enhance your picture quality of it. It's a fantastic camera. It's a Sony 6400. Then, really, the other side to it is also the lens. So I'm using a Sigma lens. So, that I think is the real big difference. I mean you have the kit lenses it comes with. I did make the investment in the the additional lens, which I think that's actually what's contributing to why it looks so good. I will say from a quality standpoint, again, start with what you have. You know, the key things for live streaming. Audio is going to be your most important part. Then also, if you, for example, are using one of these webcams, make sure you have enough light. These things look great with a lot of light. When you don't have a lot of light, you're going to see pixelation. You're going to see distortion and things like that. So, turn it back to you.
Brian Kelly:
Especially with light, if you turn on the green screen feature, you really need to have good lighting then. That's the biggest time. I'm so glad to be liberated from that. Even though I loved it. This is actually a natural well behind me. I painted the entire studio. I actually occupy my daughter's former bedroom. I've been here for four or five years now, and I finally got rid of the cartoon drawings and the yellow paint. I'm a real boy now. I have a real studio. This is awesome.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That looks really good by the way. I was very surprised (by) your background because that looks like one of the standard backgrounds people would normally bring up during a live stream. One that has, you know, the gradient going around the outside. So, whoever did the painting on that fantastic job.
Brian Kelly:
Why, thank you very much. My wife did most of the work to be honest, but I feel like that helps with that. Yeah.
Timothy McNeely:
If you want that comparison between cameras. Right. Christine was just talking about the Logitech Brio. That's what I'm on, and you can see the massive quality difference between Kristen and Julie versus the webcam. So. Right. (A) huge step up.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, we'll point that out in glowing detail right now.
Christian Karasiewicz:
You're using a green screen. Right?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
Your sound, Christian, is smooth. I mean, you have a great radio voice. Having that microphone, I think will pivot to that too. Dylan, what are your thoughts on cameras? Yours looks actually really decent right now? You're on (a) green screen, correct?
Dylan Shinholser:
Correct. Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
It looks really clean. You've done a good job with all the lighting. It's almost like you've done this before, and you know what you're doing.
Dylan Shinholser:
I try. Yeah. So, I actually when I first started doing it, I started listening back on my phone. When this whole pandemic hit, I was using the one inside your laptop and realized very quickly (that) I'm on calls all day, live streaming shows and stuff. I was like, "I got to set my game up." So, I haven't made that leap yet to the DSLR, but I will. I'm on a Logitech, one of the models. I won't even lie because I'm not that tech-savvy. It was expensive for Logitech, so I bought it. I was like, "it's got to work." So, yeah. So, that's where I'm at. I agree heavily. I think it comes down to, because we get asked it and I know you guys get asked, it comes down to what you can afford at the moment. Then always trying to push the limits of production value. Right? My background was a wall. It was just like random yellow wall, and now I have a giant green screen wallpaper now. So, now, I can be wherever I want which is a concert. That's where I want to be, and that's where I'm going to be.
Brian Kelly:
You're the one on the stage, brother. Not the audience.
Dylan Shinholser:
No, I'm actually the guy behind the stage. I never want to be this. It's actually weird for me to be in front of people. I'm the guy behind the stage telling people to get on the stage.
Brian Kelly:
Pushing them forward. Well, you do a good job, Dylan. I wouldn't know any different. Maybe your calling is to step out from behind and be on front more often.
Dylan Shinholser:
We will see. Twenty twenty-one has a lot of stuff, and I've got a long way to go. I got super bored in twenty-twenty so I might as well talk.
Brian Kelly:
I've gotten to know you a little bit over time, and you've got a great personality. I think you need to shine in front of more people. That's my humble opinion.
Dylan Shinholser:
I appreciate that.
In the front, not behind the scenes. It's okay to be behind the scenes on occasion, but someone like you with your personality and your integrity, your character...get out there, buddy. It's a disservice if we don't get to see you. Let me put it that way.
That's what a mentor of mine said. He was like, "dude, you're actually being selfish by not talking more and getting it out." Because like I said at the beginning, I only want to help more people create better experiences and events. Make them flow better and make them more money as humanly possible. At the end of the day, I just want to travel the world with cool people and do cool things. I've learned a lot, and a lot of people need some of that experience. So, I got a stern talking to by one of my mentors. He was like, "dude..." I was like, "alright, it's alright. I promise." I started live streaming then had to get better cameras, better lights going on. It's crazy up here in my little command center of all these different lights, webcams, and monitors. Everything you need to do to pull these shows off.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I love it. Christian, go ahead.
Christian Karasiewicz:
So, I want to throw something in there real quick. We talked about various types of cameras. If you're just getting started, use that built-in laptop, the webcam. So then you can take it up a notch. You can go to the Logitech. The C922. That's about, I think, a 60 to 70 dollar webcam. So, don't overpay by the way. It's about 60 to 70 dollars. Get it from Logitec, probably. If you find an astronomical price on Amazon, move up to like the Brio, for example. If your budget allows it, that's about one hundred fifty dollar camera. Then move up to a DSLR. For example, Julie's got that, the Sony 6000. I would also say if you happen to have a smartphone, this can be used as a webcam. Essentially, if you think about it, this is a thousand dollar camera. Because you paid a thousand dollars for this device of sorts, and this will give you some phenomenal picture quality. If you already have a smartphone and you don't have to have the latest iPhone, it could be pretty much any iPhone and Android phone. You just need an app such as one called,"Camo." There's one called,"Erion." So, there are lots of apps out there. Don't think like, "hey, I have to now go drop a bunch of money." Look at the phones you have lying around. Those are going to be great ways to fix your picture quality.
Julie Riley:
I've been going live since 2015, and I only had this camera last year.
Brian Kelly:
That's it. You keep reinvesting. I had a good friend of mine who were business partners. He said, I'll never forget it,"sales drive service". When you're making money, you're able to invest. You're able to up your game, and I love that. So many great points. You can just set a phone on a tripod and your camera will look better than many people's webcams. For sure. One of the things that I would recommend, this isn't just a plug StreamYard, is to get at least get the free plan. Do they need any more than the free plan to be part of the community, Julie?
Julie Riley:
No. They can come to join the community even if they're just getting started into streaming. We do like everybody to have the free plan so they have an understanding, but we'll still let you in. Agree to the rules. That's the big thing. Yeah, come join the StreamYard community. It's really a "stream yard" community.
Brian Kelly:
It's a very valuable place because questions like what Christian just addressed are often asked (What do I need?). I'm just starting. I'm a newbie. I see that so much in there. What can you do to help with a camera or microphone or computer? You can go there if you have those questions and ask, and the community will fill in the blanks wonderfully well because they're a great bunch of people. Just like Tim down there who's gotten pushed to the side for a while. So, Tim, is this your first camera that you've been using for live streaming so far? Did you have one before it?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah, right. I started with just an HD one. Right. Logitech and then jumped up to the Brio. Been happy with that so far. But, you know, it's interesting how the game keeps growing again. That's the thing, right? Just get started! Just do this. I started with just using zoom and recording those for my interviews, and then I realized (that) I need a better platform. I need a way to kind of do that live production. Now I'm doing Stream Yard and got intros. Just get started with whatever you've got and kind of build that proof of concept. You know, I recently just upgraded my lights because I bought the cheapest lights I could at first. I just wanted to do something, and done is better than not done a lot of times.
Brian Kelly:
I totally agree with everything you just said and like what Christian was saying. If you're going to put money into anything, make it the audio side of things first when you upgrade. I was fortunate. I started over nine years ago streaming live. This is a DSLR. Not a DSLR. Good grief, XLR microphone. It's old school. It's not even USB. So I plug it into a mixer board, and from there into my computer. I've used it for years. It's been just amazing. I've never had to do anything with my sound as a result. For you, there are great USB alternatives now. Oh my gosh, there are so many out there. Someone like Christian could probably point you in the right way. Someone like the StreamYard community could push you in the right way and tell you,"these are the ones". I have a connection with the guy who is a sound expert. I've never heard of this before. He has a studio that does 4D sound. I don't even know what that means. Four dementional?
Christian Karasiewicz:
Sweet.
I don't know what that means, audibly. He was telling me about speakers in the ceiling. I'm like, holy moly,. You don't need that obviously for a talk show like this, but think about the possibilities and have fun with it. The bottom line is, when you go on and go live. Enjoy yourself. I'm trying to do that a little bit with these fine people tonight. Thankfully, they're still here with me. I haven't upset them too great, especially Christian. I keep picking on him. Poor guy. I appreciate you all, and it's okay to have fun on your show. Would you guys agree with that? Is it okay to have a little bit of fun?
Julie Riley:
One hundred percent. If you're having fun, your audience is going to be having fun with you.
If you're not having fun... I don't believe in doing anything that I don't find fun. It's a life motto of mine. If I don't want to do it, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Like you said, Julie. If you're not having fun with it, then how in the world do you expect the viewers to want to have fun or engage or interact? It starts with you.
Brian Kelly:
Absolutely, absolutely. One of the things I wanted to pivot to is something I'm deeply interested in because the product that came up earlier when I did the quick ads spot. I like to solve the pain points that people are having in their live streaming experiences. I'm curious. I'll bet, Julie and Christian, you guys have seen and heard a lot about that. I actually had a team member of mine from my company put a poll up in the form of a meme, a graphic. What's the right word? I am having trouble with words these days. It's an infograph. That's it. Simple. I was a little bit shocked by the result, but I was just curious what you guys think. What are the biggest pain points you're seeing? (Either) that you're having individually. Tim, if you have that as well. Dylan as well. Dylan, you probably hear about a bunch of it as well. What are the pain points you are seeing come back over and over and over again? I'm having a horrible time trying to find another guest on my show if they're interview style, or the tech is just blowing my mind. Even though StreamYard is so simple. I'm having trouble with x, y, z. Let's just go around the horn. Dylan, if you don't mind, I put you on the spot. Can you think of any of those pain points that keep coming up over and over again?
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. The biggest thing I see is they underestimate what it does take. I totally agree. Why I promote StreamYard to our clients and everyone I possibly can is because of the ease of use. People go into it and think shows are just like setting up the webcam, and they can be. Setting up the webcam and just talking. Right? There's a lot of back end stuff to this. These shows and I'm learning that as doing my own now. I'm like, holy cow, I'm about to hire fifteen people because this is absurd. But, yeah. I think that's the biggest thing that I see is underestimating it, but also at the same time, they overcomplicate it. They have to think (that) they have to have all these bells and whistles and seventeen thousand cameras and two million dollar microphones. It goes back to our first point of "just do it". It doesn't need to be overcomplicated, but understand going into it, there is some work that takes and understand that you do have to respect what it takes to put these on. At the same time, don't overcomplicate it. It's funny how people work. They overestimate or underestimate it, but then heavily overcomplicate it at the same time. I think that's the biggest one I see.
Brian Kelly:
I'm so glad you brought that up. I've said this so many times, people don't realize what goes on behind the scenes before the show even comes on live for that episode. The amount of time and effort. If you want to do a live show that's of quality and represent yourself and your brand in a way that you want it to be represented professionally. It takes a good amount of work for every single show. That's why I automated nearly every process (that) I use now. It took time to get there, but you can use a team. You can get a team. Like you said, Dylan, to also help out. For me, it's all about quality, and more time is spent before the show by far than the show itself. After the show is over, another good deal of time is spent. That is in the minor edits, the repurposing, the marketing, and everything else that goes beyond. The live show is this tiny window of time, and it's the fun is part of it by the way. When you have everything automated, the rest is not "not fun" because you're not doing it. It's all automated, but definitely great. Thank you for that. Julie, what has been some of the big p.. sorry to wake you up there. What have been some of the big pain points? You are wide awake. I just starttled you. You've seen over and over, I bet you've seen a bunch of them.
Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh. So many, you know, especially because I'm approving all of the comments that are coming into the group. I think one of the huge ones is that the hesitation of people who believe that they have to have everything perfect. That they have to have all of the backdrops, the overlays, the banners, the super expensive microphone, and the super expensive camera. That they have it. The room behind them is messy. They haven't thought about turning to just a blank wall because they're like, "well, then I don't have a fancy studio set up." They get to this point where they're trying to create perfection, and perfection is a fairy tale. It doesn't exist. There is no such thing as perfection. There is, again, where Dylan said the overcomplicating it. They've got to really just slow down and go, "what do I need to get this process going?" What is the minimum to make it happen? From there, then I can then build on it, and build on it each week. Go, "okay, I got live. I got the first one out. I got the jitters out. I hate the way I sound." When I had my agency, I would tell my clients. They'd be like, "I can't stand the way I sound." I'm like, nobody likes the way (that) they sound. There's actually, and I say this all the time, there's a term for it that is a term for not liking the sound of your own voice. I tell people, you have to get over that fear. They're like,"I don't look good on camera, I don't know how to be on camera." The other thing I tell people is to set up a fake Facebook group with nobody else in it but you. Go live in there a bunch of times and just get those jitters out. Get that feeling of pressing the button and going live. Then invite your husband in, your sister, your mother, or whoever. Somebody so that you're talking to somebody. From there, build up each time. As we said with the cameras, again, you can you can slowly build. You can slowly add in the overlays. You can slowly add in the backgrounds.
Brian Kelly:
My goodness! I absolutely love it. I have my own Facebook group that I use just for that. Nothing more. I go in there, and I test things for StreamYard and other things in there. I go live in there because there's no substitute for going live. We've got more buttons to click, and things kind of change their arrangement just a little bit in the window. If you practiced it 20 times without going live, then you go live you're going to go, "what the heck just happened?" I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. That was perfect. Perfect advice. I love that. We've got a comment coming in or two or three. Yeah. Kelly, crucial. Kruschel. Sorry if I got that wrong.
Dylan Shinholser:
Kelly Kruschel. It's Kruschel. She said she's on my team. She's a friend. Hey, we've got a supporter.
Brian Kelly:
Love it. Love it. Then Fran Jesse, I know her. I'm getting ready to make my first video essentially input. Yeah. Reach out, Fran. We're friends. I will give you assistance in any way you want because this is the greatest this is the greatest avenue for media on the planet, in my humble opinion, for so many reasons. One is people get to see you. I love clubhouse. It's also phenomenal in different ways, but people get to see you. They get to interact with you. They can engage with you, and they get to see your essence. It doesn't cost you, the studio owner, studio time. If you do this in the old days when you have to go to a television studio and you want to do a show, it would cost you thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars just to use the studio. Let alone get the media time to put it up on a television station. We're living in wonderful times. It's the greatest time to be alive, in my humble opinion. I'm a tech geek. I'm not young anymore. I'm fifty six, but I can't wait for the rest of what my life has to hold. Yes. You're welcome, Fran. Any time. Wonderful. Wonderful. Alright. Where were we? I got all messed up and loving myself there. We're going to have fun. I'm being real. This is like... I don't know. I'm the most relaxed (that) I've been in a long time with everything that went on today. It was one of those weird, everything-going crazy days. I feel like I'm at home with you guys. That's why.
Dylan Shinholser:
It's been one of those years.
Brian Kelly:
Thank God that last one is over.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, yeah. Sure.
Brian Kelly:
So, okay. Pain point. Let's go back around one more. Tim, what do you have?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah. When I first started doing this, my whole goal was to get out there and to talk to the different experts in the different areas of the challenges that my my clients face. I started off as an interview show and just using Zoom to record the video. Then all of a sudden I had the video. Now I had to put an intro in. I had to put an exit in. I had to extract the audio so I could do the podcast. My team members and myself were spinning our wheels. Just trying to really kind of create a workflow around the creation of this content so we could get the message out and help people with their challenges. For me, all of a sudden, the revelation was (that) I can do this live. I can have people type in (and) ask comments as I'm doing the show. Not only that, from start to finish, I can produce the whole thing going live. Right? You go live. You can play an intro now. You can throw in little commercial breaks. You can throw in the outro, and then it's done. Download the audio. You throw it up, and now you've got your podcast. You don't have to upload video to YouTube and Facebook and LinkedIn. It's done for you now, automatically. So really my biggest pain point was just the production side of things and putting everything together so that I could keep talking to people and doing the fun part. Right? I don't want to get caught up in all the details of making this. I want to talk to people, learn, and share that knowledge. Really, a lot of the pain point, just using StreamYard has really been absolved because it's a turn-key easy to use platform.
Brian Kelly:
Amen to all of that brother. Here's the key for everyone that's ever going to do a live show or has done one. The most important part is that you show up and you be the talent. That means you need to be dedicated mentally toward what the task is at hand. If I have too many things going on, like production-wise, which I used to when I didn't automate things. That's in the back of my mind. Did I dot every "i"? Did I cross every "t"? What's going to screw up on this show? Versus showing up fully for my guest. Being there for them. Getting out of myself and my own business and being present for the other person, that's what I'm about. Lifting up the other people, that's what my show's about. It's important to me.
Timothy McNeely:
Actually, if I can touch on that talent piece, Brian? I think he brought something up so important for everyone listening to this. If you're doing any kind of a show where you're interviewing people, chances are (that) the person you're talking to (is) a little bit uncomfortable. Your job, as the talent, is to spend some time before the show really crafting what it's going to look like. What direction are you going to go in? You want to make that person you're talking to look like a star. The more you can rehearse with them and put them at ease, you're going to end up with a much, much better show. Because you've taken a little bit of time to make sure that (the) other person is going to shine just as bright as you do. So, take that time to work with your guests beforehand through interview guides, through little questionnaires. So that you can help prep them, to keep them on a thread, and you can really help them deliver their message. Most people are not trained professional speakers. They just aren't. I've hired some of the best speaking coaches to help me develop messages, stay on topic, and learn how to tell stories. People don't invest time, energy, and effort to do that. You can help them do that through a briefing before you start your live with them.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. That's why I was saying before, I do a thirty-minute preshow. All of us were on here for 30 minutes getting to know each other, making sure all the tech was good, doing some checkout. You were talking about people being nervous and stuff. That's why I'm riding Christian so hard with all these jokes and stuff because it broke his nervousness. You can see his sweating. I am so kidding. This guy's raw. He's a rock. He's awesome. He's a pro. I love this guy, man. I always pick on the quiet ones. I don't know why that is. Christian, man, you're bringing massive value. All kidding aside, you're very experienced. You're matched for what you do. You've said already so many amazing things. What about you, brother?
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'd say this. I think a couple of the pain points. I think one is people want to ask, "how do I get better at my live stream?" I think (that) the first thing is practice. To Julie's point, I think you mentioned having overlays, backgrounds, and all this other stuff. Look at it like this. You want to show your audience as well while you're helping them. You're doing this with them. You have everything at the same time, and you're trying to make everything perfect. Your audience is going to be like, "I'm not going to stick around this person because they've done such a good job already. I won't ever get to that point". They start having that self-doubt. The key thing is going to be practice. You don't have to have every single one of the overlays. Maybe start with the the intro or the thumbnail, and maybe you have an outro for example. (Those are) the first two things you do. As you build the show, then you can add segment graphics. You can add videos. So, you can scale it, but you don't have to have so much at one time because then it's just too overwhelming. That's point number one. Pain point number two is that people, for some reason, think that they're going to immediately be able to monetize their live stream. I say pain point because everybody's like, "oh, I bought all that equipment." Now, you've got to figure out how to pay for all that equipment, you know? If you're struggling already with your business and growing it, then you're not going to immediately monetize live stream. You have to have an audience. You know, you have to build that community. When you go live, they're tuning in because (of) the social platforms. They want to see that you're bringing viewers, they want to see engagement. So, point number two is monetizing your live stream. There are ways to do that, but don't always set out with monetization being number one. It could take a couple of years to monetize. So, get started. Build on it, then make those investments as your business is growing. Yes, mic drop. Yes.
Dylan Shinholser:
Do you have that mic? Just a mic drop? Because I might need to get one.
Brian Kelly:
It's actually super.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, super real.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That's pretty cool, actually.
Julie Riley:
I like that.
Brian Kelly:
It's actually part of a magic trick that you put in a paper bag. It's a long story, but I found one more affordable that would not break my keyboard because that's what it landed on. You didn't hear it. Oh, my gosh. Golden nuggets there, as usual, from Christian who I give a lot of hard time to. I'm going to stop because you're amazing dude, and I don't want to get mad at me. I want you to be my friend. So many great things. So, you said two years. I was like, wow. I was watching an interview. How many of you have heard of Lewis Howes? Former professional football player and turned incredible entrepreneur. He's all over the place. He was being interviewed, and the guy interviewing him asked him a question. He said, "so, Lewis, if someone came to you, and they were talking about the fact they wanted to start a podcast. Now, we're talking just the audio version. That's what a podcast really is for everyone that may not know it's audio-only. Not video, even though they're going that way." He said, "well, here's what I'd tell them. First, you got to actually be consistent. Whenever you decide to do it, do it at that same day and that same time every week or multiple times a week. Whatever that happens to be. Number two, more importantly. You must commit yourself to doing that for at least, the magic number, two years. If they are not willing to do that, I would tell them, don't even get started." We didn't talk about monetization. None of that was discussed during this Q&A. That was telling. Who was I talking about this earlier with earlier today? It's not necessarily about monetizing. It's about building your platform, and I wanted to add to that. It took me in two years. I was just hitting that moment in time of my live show. That's when the momentum started. He was spot on, and so are you, Christian, about the two years. Then using a certain strategy (that) I use, I continually ask for referrals in a certain way. I eventually landed the one and only Les Brown. Some of you know who that is. Some of you don't. I've noticed some don't and Im like,"what rock are you living under?" He's amazing, and he's been on my show. Because of that, the two-year commitment is my point. Not talking about monetization. Then what I found after doing this for two years and striving for excellence all the time in every facet, I'm talking about the preshow communication with upcoming guests and the setup and the prep that they all go through and my system makes sure they do. The show itself and then after the show, all the post-production, everything that goes into it. Once you have that, people notice and my show, without my intending it to be, became an incredible, powerful lead magnet for my business. Focus, just as Christian was stating so properly, does definitely, positively impact your business. If you do it right. You do it high quality, and again, within reason within the resources you have. Go ahead, Christian.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I was going to say. That's another point that people look at, and they want to generate revenue off of it. That revenue may not be actual money upfront. It may end up being (help) (to) drive more leads to my website. It's not necessarily driving more people to my social channels. You're following is... It's OK. That's not going to necessarily grow your business because you had five more followers on Instagram or something like that. It's potentially getting them back to your website, which can be an opportunity for them to schedule a coaching call with you, maybe buy a product from you, learn from you for example. You're not going to get every single person to become a customer, but you're going to be able to use it to generate more leads.
Brian Kelly:
Totally, totally true.
Dylan Shinholser:
That's why I do it.
Brian Kelly:
You see on the top of this screen "streaming live on" and then five. We're doing it to eight right now or seven right now. "Listen-on" down below. On the bottom, there's actually twenty five of those like us could fit them all. Roku now was on Fire TV. Look, you're not making money from those, but here's what happened. How many of you have heard of Kevin Harrington? Shark Tank? Original Shark Tank? He has a partner named, "Seth Green", and they do a podcast together. They've been doing it for years now. They have five-hundred plus episodes. We got introduced, Seth and I. I met Kevin. We shared the stage once. I'm not name-dropping, but yes, I am. It was awesome, and it was fun. Seth reached out. We were connected by someone else. We were introduced, and Seth did his own homework. He came back, we literally talked on Zoom, and he says, "wow, I did some research. I looked you up and, my God, you're everywhere." I just wanted to say, "yeah, that's right." So, you want to get out there. That's why, shameless plug, I call it, "carpet bomb marketing". You saturate with everything you've got within reason. Right? If you can automate it, it can be near or completely free. So just do it. Why not add it to your arsenal? So, it works. Just be consistent to a minimum of two years. Get in touch with people like Julie, Christian, Tim, and Dylan. You might make that even quicker than two years. I'll direct you to the shortcuts that many of us did by trial and error.
Timothy McNeely:
Touching on the monetization piece, a good friend of mine runs one of the top coaching consultancies out there. Right. Very, very successful. Runs a great podcast, great show. I ask him one day. I said, "have you need any money doing your podcast?" He thought for a second. He says, "naw, I've actually lost money doing it. The relationships that I've made...I've made millions off (of) that." If you approach it from that standpoint... There's different goals, but I always approach, you know, what's the end result? What are you looking for out of your show? Why are you doing it? That's how you can measure the success of it. Is it helping you achieve whatever goals you set for yourself?
Brian Kelly:
Totally agree. It's very similar. Isn't it? To writing a book? I'm holding up another namedrop. Yes, it's very similar to writing your own book. Because a lot of people want to write a book and make a living off of the sales of the book. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, most of the time it just doesn't happen that way. If anyone comes up to you and you're talking to them... During the course of conversation, maybe you ask them what they've been up to? Or, hey, I've authored a book. The moment they say that, in your eyes, do they not lift up in an influence in your mind? Right then and there? Instantly. It builds authority. That's exactly what this live show, and live shows like it, are doing. When you're giving evidence of it by spitting it out to all of these platforms, there's no way people can't find you and know that you're serious. You know, it's showing that you have a commitment level. It's showing that you have a quality level of professionalism. It's not about the show itself. It's like, well, if I do business with that person, or will I... Will I want to do business that person? If they're professional. Yes. If they put on a shoddy show, they might give me shoddy service. If I do business with them. Does that make sense? People want to (be) representing yourself in the best. Do it the best you can, but do it. Please, don't delay. Don't try to be perfect. You heard everybody talk. Go ahead, Dylan. You had something?
Dylan Shinholser:
Well, yeah. There's indirect ways to make money with shows, live streams, and of course direct (ways). Right. Direct is selling sponsorships, ad-space, all that good stuff. The indirect monetization is so much more powerful. When I do shows or when I hop on shows or anything, it's literally just to build a top-down awareness of myself. I just want people to know what Dylan Shinholser is. Then that way, because I do multiple things, I'm never trying to sell one product at any given time. I'm trying to sell myself, and what it does is it gives me that outlet to do it. Then if you're hosting a show. Right? This maybe goes into some other topics around how to market and things like that. It's a powerful relationship tool because when you can open your platform to other people that you're looking to connect with. I'm in the business of working with influencers and throwing their events. Well, the best way to connect was get them on my show. It gave me a reason to reach out that wasn't pitchy or sales. It was more or less. Hey, man, I just want to give you an outlet, because I think what you talk about is cool. Tell my people about it. After the show, I was like, "hey, man, what are you doing next Tuesday? I need a speaker." Or "hey, man. I have some ideas (that) I want to pitch you or (some) things. They're more receptive. So, I always do shows and things not about the direct money I get, but the indirect thing. It's the indirect impact that I get from relationships, or people sharing my stuff out and people go, oh man, he sounds semi-intelligent unless they're watching this. Then then they'll go, okay, great. Let me go over to this platform that he runs with this business that he does or whatever because he sounded halfway intelligent on that show. Right? So, I think the indirect monetization is what most people don't... They don't get that the instant gratification of like that five thousand dollars sponsorship check. When I forgo that and go on to bring on much more money on the backend with the people I connect with, in the top influence that I get.
Brian Kelly:
The magic word there was "relationship".
Dylan Shinholser:
Relationships all day, every day. That's all I do- is build relationships, and how can I do it? Do more shows like this. Can I get it out? You're on like forty-two different podcast or outlets here, right? Every one of those. Every time you put a show on it, you're building a relationship with someone on that platform. Even if it's just you talking, and they're listening. You're building that relationship. Everything (that) I do, is built on: how can I develop relationships? Live streams is just an amazing way to do so.
Brian Kelly:
Posting them is one thing. Right? That's a great thing. What I learned through a podcasting expert friend of mine is the maybe not as equally important, but possibly greater importance, is getting on other people's shows. That includes audio podcasts only. He explained how his business skyrocketed when he did what he called, "podcast guest marathons". He would have someone get him booked in his team. He would carve out three days and just say get as many as you can for me. He'd do that. Then when they ask him about how to get in contact with him... This is the gold right here... It's not go to my Facebook page and look up my name and message me. He would tell them to go to his podcast website and from there to subscribe. Now he's building a following. It's genius. It's so genius. I just want to impart that. The cool thing, though, is when you're hosting a high-quality live show that opens the door for you to be a guest on many more.
Dylan Shinholser:
Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Being a guest is what goes back to the authority building. Right? If I can build my authority, I build my influence. If I do have something to sell... If I'm trying to build my brand or whatever it is or I'm just trying to get to as many people as possible to talk about events with them... That authority I call it, "authority hacking", being able to get them on your show. That'll get your show in front of their audience, and then going on to other shows helps you develop your authority. It's like writing a book. I was I'm a guest on this show, this show, this show. It's like writing a book. Your authority starts to become a little bit more when you're leveraging their influence. Right? When you're a guest on the show, if that show has a following, you becoming a guest on that show gives you authority because now you have the validation of the host that everyone is following and love. So, I can authority hack by getting on other people's shows.
Brian Kelly:
It leverges. You have a whole new tribe watching and interacting with you as well. I mean, this is one of the most powerful things people can use. If they just get out of that rut of trying to find a way to make money with it directly, that's when they'll see the real value come through. It's about building relationships. It's long-term. Not short, quick kill. I got to make a commission and run. It's build a relationship. Establish it. If you go into this with the mindset of it not being for directly making money, I personally think you have greater success. The long-term plays always work better than the short-term. Short-term works can work, but they're temporary. The long-term is a lot more permanent and lasting. Just think of all the wonderful bread crumbs you're leaving throughout the world. Through all the venues and platforms we've been talking about. In speaking terms, if you're on stage, that's what we call a "stage swap". Where you would be a guest on someone else's stage in return for them saying, "okay, but I'm going to do the opposite." We'll have you on our as well. The same thing with podcasts and live video. It works really great. Just make sure they're a fit.
Dylan Shinholser:
They've got to fit. (It's) got to makes sense.
Brian Kelly:
Both ways. Yeah.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I want to add something real quick to that. If you are consistently going live, so it's great to be consistent, go live on a regular basis, but also think about the long game. It's a couple of years, for example. Also, don't be afraid to be making changes and adjustments as things are moving along. It's not about substituting equipment. It's about looking at your process. For example, you mentioned Brian, that you have automation on some of the things. Think of smarter ways to take bigger jumps ahead. If I have to send someone an email, and I'm like, "hey, do you want to be on my show?" Then I have to deal with the whole back and forth. Well, okay. Yeah. What time? Then I have to send everything back. There are tools out there like Calendly, Harmonizely. You can send a calendar link to somebody and they can only book a certain slot for example and vice versa. This takes out the guesswork out of having to do all that back and forth. That's a way to work smarter because now you want to book people for your show. You send them one link. The person then doesn't have to send you a message back, and you can even use it to collect feedback for your show questions. There's not a lot of back-and-forth and downtime.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, absolutely. I do that as well, and it's a godsend. I could not do what I'm doing. I would not do what I'm doing without the automation part of it. I have an onboarding form. You guys all... Most, not all of you went through it, but that was a mini version. Julie, you went through the big version. I then changed it right after I saw that. Like you said, make adjustments. That's what I did. I'm constantly doing that. Improving. I have a document automatically generated in Google Docs with your bio. The answer you had to why you think you would bring value to the show. Also, all the questions you chose to be asked for the show. Some of you didn't see that. So everything's done. The Q&A part used to take hours and hours doing manually. Now I just give them thirty-eight questions. Choose ten, and we're good. You tick the box. You choose what I'm going to ask you. (I) just made it a system, and it has worked beautifully. I don't even use the ten questions hardly. I use maybe the first three. Then we go organically like we've been doing tonight. My God, it's six twenty-nine! Are you kidding me? I'm having too much fun. Real quick. I know everyone that came on in the beginning. You heard this thing about a prize. We're going to do that real quick, and we'll come back and wrap it up. For those of you watching, remember in the beginning I said, "take notes and don't go clicking away and stuff like that"? Now I think Dylan, Julie, Tim, and Christian will also give you permission to do what I'm saying, and that is take out your phone. Take your gaze away from us for just a moment, but you'll still have to look back. Yes, yes. You can do this too. Please, do. What I want you to do....
Dylan Shinholser:
I need a vacation.
This is how you can enter to win a five-night stay at a five-star luxury resort of your choosing. Here's what you do. Take out your message app on your phone. Fire that up- your text message app. Where you would type in the name of the person normally that you're going to text. Instead, put in this number: three, one, four, six, six five-they're all doing it behind the scenes- one, seven, six, seven. I love this. Three, one, four, six, six, five, one, seven, six, seven. If you're watching this and you're not a guest, go ahead and write this down because I gonna take the screen down. I want you to get it. This will be open until the end of the evening. Where you actually put in the message... Where you might put emojis, those kinds of things, not emojis, just two words separated by a dash or a hyphen. Those words are peak (P-E-A-K) dash Vacation (V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N). All together. No spaces. Peak vacation. Send it off, then monitor your phone. You're going to get an automated response back asking you for your email address, and that will then officially enter you into the contest. Compliments of The Big Insider Secrets. Our buddies, Jason Nash, the owner. Dear friend of mine who lets us give this away every single week. Every show, actually. We do more than one a week now on average. So go ahead, get that entered. I can't wait to see who's going to win that. You're going to be asked later, you don't have to if you're the winner, to provide your Facebook information. Just your profile so we can say congrats and give you a high-five online and get others to come watch the show. To be honest, that's another strategy. We're just rolling back the curtain. That's why we do it this way. You can offer incentives like that. My friend has offered that to anyone who is my friend. If you're not my friend, you don't get it. If you're on as part of the panel here, they're all my friends. Christian may differ on that opinion, but I think he's my friend.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm your friend. Yes.
Brian Kelly:
Ok, good. I picked on you so hard. I apologize, but you're just you're a fun guy. I appreciate you for putting up with it. I definitely do stuff like that. Implement it and announce it in the beginning. That helps retention. I'm just pulling back the curtain for everybody. You can do different things like that. Having multiple people, I noticed, is also a little better than just one every single time. So, mix it up now and then. Alright. I know we're a little bit over, but I want to give you each another chance for a final parting tip. Anything you want on live streaming. It could be hardware, software, how you smile, what bling you wear, don't wear, your makeup. I'm wearing some, by the way, just so the guys know. Yeah, I don't know what they call it. It's not like guy up.. guy-liner, but it's like makeup. I know. That was bad.
Dylan Shinholser:
I haven't heard of that one.
Brian Kelly:
I just did that. I'm not a young fart anymore. Anyway. So, Dylan, we'll do the same thing. Go around the horn. What would be one final quick tip, or parting words of advice, you can give our wonderful viewing and listening audience?
Dylan Shinholser:
Keep it simple stupid. Don't overcomplicate it. There's things that you need to do and standards you need to meet. At the end of the day, keep it simple stupid will allow you to not overcomplicated it (and) get overwhelmed. Once you get overwhelmed, it's a wash. I would just say as a life advice, event advice, live stream advice, just keep it simple stupid and keep it moving.
Brian Kelly:
Real quick, I got to interject on that. Just so people know that that comes from an acronym K.I.S.S. So we're not calling everybody stupid, for one.
Dylan Shinholser:
Well...
Brian Kelly:
That was great. I have a friend who is Sicilian in nature, and he did this from the stage. He talked about it, and he brought up the whole thing. We're talking about doing it without complicating it. He goes, "It's like K.I.S.S. Who knows what K.I.S.S means?" Someone raised their hands. They said, "keep it simple, stupid". He goes,"Oh, no, no. It's keep it simple Sicilian." He lighten the load of the stupid part. I thought that was cool. Sorry, Julie, what is your parting tip?
Julie Riley:
You know, you're going to have to get started at some point. In order to do that, you're going to have to get over your fear. Go practice. Get those done, but also go watch and find other people that you resonate with their live shows. Start to take pieces from each of those. Now, obviously, you cannot go copy their live show and recreate it. You can pull little things from multiple different people's live shows that you like and that resonate with you. If you're comfortable and things are resonating with you, you're going to exude that comfort and that confidence out to the rest of the world.
Brian Kelly:
I love it. I love it. Alright. The man, the myth, the legend, Timothy J. McNeely. What is your final parting word of advice?
Timothy McNeely:
I'm going to close with a story. The purpose of this story is to illustrate the power of doing a show. July 20th, 1969, the first man walked on the moon. He left his footprints up there. On the moon, there's no wind. There's no rain. There's no weather, and those footprints today in twenty twenty-one look exactly like they did in nineteen sixty-nine. They're going to be exactly the same a million years from now. You too. You leave footprints on the hearts and the minds of everyone that you come in contact with. In streaming and having a platform, that's your opportunity to leave your footprints and to have an impact on people. Get clear about what your message is. What's the impact you want to have? If you do that, all of the other puzzle pieces are going to fall in place for you.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, baby. Okay, I've got to do it. I've got to do it. That was amazing.
Dylan Shinholser:
You have to get one of the little lower third animation gifts that are possible here on StreamYard. It's just a mic drop every time someone does one.
Brian Kelly:
Not nearly as much fun though, bro.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That's true. Fair. Very fair. I'll give it to you. I've got to get me one of those little squishy microphones.
Brian Kelly:
A little sound effect like I just broke my desk or something. That would be good. Alright, Christian, you've had a long time to think about it now. No pressure, but this better be a good one. I'm kidding. What do you have?
Christian Karasiewicz:
Let's see. The best piece of advice, I think, would be don't have gas or gear acquisition syndrome. You're going to watch people doing their live streams, and they're going to go and be like, "hey, I got to get that mic because this person upgraded." Oh, they got a new webcam. Remember? If you develop a plan, the whole thing is work the plan.. work the system. It's great (that) somebody else got some equipment, but it doesn't mean that you need to go out and get that yourself as well. Remember, work your plan. When you get to the certain points, maybe set that as a milestone. If I get to a certain number of viewers, for example, or a certain number of subscribers on a channel, then I might need to upgrade something. Don't be buying stuff just because someone else is doing so.
Brian Kelly:
Sales drive service. I love it. You guys are amazing. Thank you so much for coming on. Everyone who watched live. Thank you for coming on. Those of you that watched on the recording. Thank you for spending your valuable time with us, and those listening on the podcast. The same goes for you. Definitely. I hope you took a lot of notes because these are experts in the field. They are giving their value, their heart, their experience. They only charged me two-hundred thousand dollars for it. It's really been a deal. I'm kidding. They charged me nothing. You got incredible value from these amazing, amazing professionals. I can't thank you all enough. I appreciate you Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. Thank you from the bottom of my heart with all seriousness. I know we had some fun tonight. Thank you, Christian, so much for letting me pick on you so hard. You've been a great guy. I look forward to getting to know each and every one of you at a deeper level. If you're open to that after tonight. Appreciate you all. On behalf of these amazing people, that's it. We're out. My name is Brian Kelly. I'm the host of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Until next time we will see you. Be blessed. So long for now.
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