Special Guest Expert - Angela Marshall

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Announcer:
Welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. The three keys to your success is just moments away. Here's your host, Brian Kelly.

Brian Kelly:
Hello everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Oh my goodness! I'm so glad that you could join us. I am super, super excited; I am not kidding. I have goosebumps under my jacket. This happens often, but now they're poking through this time. I am excited, because the amazing woman that we are going to be talking to tonight... well, that's why: she's amazing! Amazing! Unbelievable what she is doing and I can't wait till you hear her story. It's very compelling, and she's doing a lot, and making a big impact on the world for herself, and for others. She's serving others and you're gonna love her. She's got this infectious smile, this infectious attitude, this infectious personality. And, yeah, Brian needs to stop talking so we can get Mrs. Infectious on the program, in front the camera. The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show: real quick, just a recap of what is that. It's about the three pillars of what I call success. In my now 54 years on this planet, I began focusing on very successful people, intently, and finding out what is it that makes them successful. And what I found were three patterns, and one was mind. In other words, mindset - have a positive, empowering, from the subconscious level, mindset. And then there's body, and that's exactly what it sounds like: it's about your body, about putting in the proper nutrition, about getting in exercise...again, these are patterns of the very high, successful people, just like the one you're going to meet in just a moment. And then there's business. Business is multifaceted in that there are a lot of skill sets that one must acquire to become successful.Things like marketing, sales, team building, scaling, you name it - managing the business. When you combine all three of these, and if you're operating at a high level in each one and you've mastered all three of these areas, then you're operating at what I call a peak level of performance. Hence the name of the company: Reach Your Peak, LLC. That is enough about that. When it comes to success in business, one of things I always like to open with, is the importance of reading books. And there's a story that goes behind this. You're going to have a resource suite and go check that story out. I'm not going to tell it here. I know; I feel like I just left you hanging. But the beautiful thing is, I learned - quite some time ago - the importance of reading, and from a very prominent individual, and I decided to ignore him. And later, thankfully, much later I was reminded of this by another mentor of mine, and he said - he didn't do it by saying so much, he did it by acting - I saw him reading all the time. So, what I want to do is quickly segue into a short segment I like to call "Bookmarks."

Announcer:
(Informational Screen) Bookmarks. Born to read. Bookmarks. Ready, steady, read. Bookmarks. Brought to you by ReachYourPeakLibrary.com.

Brian Kelly:
Yes, there you see it that's ReachYourPeakLibrary.com. And for those of you that are watching, or even listening right now, stay with us. The key is stay with us right here, watching or listening. In other words, when you hear a resource, a web site address, write it down. Take notes and then visit it later. Because, as they say in the seminar industry, and the speaking industry, and in classrooms: it happens in the room. If you leave, and if you take your attention, and you go elsewhere then you might miss the most important tidbit - you just don't know - of your life. You don't know. So, just trust me. Stay with us. Write notes. Get out your pad and paper. I'm going to be writing notes myself throughout the show. I always do, every single time. Write notes. So, ReachYourPeakLibrary.com. That was just a kind of a philanthropic site that I put together, if you will. That site I built literally for you, the viewer, the listener, because there are many books to choose from when it comes to becoming successful in business and in life. And so, I went through and listened - I listened through Audible, that's my chosen method - to many, many books once I finally woke up and realized this is a very important thing I should be doing. And there you see a long laundry list of books that I personally read and I personally vet. And that just means that those had a profound impact on me. It may not have been the entire book. It could have been one paragraph, but profound enough to for me to remember to say,. "That goes onto my library wall," if you will. That's for you. ReachYourPeakLibrary.com. If you're not reading go there, pick the first one that jumps out. Look at the description. It could be the cover. It doesn't matter. Just start reading. If you already are reading, find one you haven't read yet. Odds are there will be one there, or more. There's about 40 there - and I'm way behind on that - but I love to talk about reading because it truly has profoundly impacted my life since I started doing on a regular basis. And the really awesome thing is, most of my guests - well, not most; maybe half - are themselves authors, and our guest that's coming up right now is no exception to that. So, what do you say we bring her on, well, right now? Here we go.

Announcer:
It's time for the guest expert spotlight. Savvy. Skillful. Professional. Adept. Trained. Big league. Qualified.

Brian Kelly:
And there she is, ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only, Angela Marshall! How are you doing, Angela?

Angela Marshall:
Hi Brian! I am doing amazing. How are you? Hello to your Reach Your Peak MIND BODY BUSINESS Show audience! That was a mouthful.

Brian Kelly:
Yes (laughter). I love it. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. And for those of you watching and listening: interact, ask questions, type them in the comments. You might be on Facebook. We're streaming live right now to nine different platforms simultaneously. That could be Facebook, it could be Periscope. There's... LinkedIn is coming soon; I'm excited about that. We're not there at this moment. There's twitch. There's...it just goes on and on. Wherever you're at, go ahead and comment; we will see it. And, if time permits, we'll give you a shout out on the show. That's how we roll here. We like to give people exposure where it's warranted. And, look: Angela Marshall, my goodness. This woman is so amazing. I can't wait to formally introduce her to you. In fact, I'm going to do that just. Well, I have to do one thing first; got to take care of bookkeeping and that is: stay on until the end, because I want you - the listener, the viewer - to have the opportunity to win a five-night stay at a five-star luxury resort in Mexico. And, I kid you not, this is a high-quality (Angela dancing) - I love the dancing back there. This is a high-quality trip, vacation stay. It is not something where you go and you get hit with a timeshare pitch or anything like that. It's 100% your vacation stay. So, stay on to the end to learn how you can enter to win. We give out on a trip every single show so come back and watch if you don't win tonight. It may be next week or the next one that comes up. All right. Let's go. Angela Marshall! She is also known as Author Stone and she is an Augusta, Georgia, native, entrepreneur, and positive-words powerhouse that utilizes her personal life experiences of struggle, strength, and success to captivate audiences and readers abroad. Author Stone is a motivational presenter - I love this about her; I love speaking from stage -published, best-selling author, columnist, ex-NFL wife, and creative writing consultant. Having struggled through a lavish, but sorely lacking lifestyle as a former NFL wife, that chapter in her life - that proved pivotal to her. It became pivotal to her nickname which is now "Wise Words Woman." It also produced the transparency in her inspiring, inquiring minds, wanting to know about the autobiography Reality to Rags to Riches. That's pretty cool. I've always heard "rags to riches." It's Reality to Rags to Riches: the story and life of an ex-NFL wife - and it rhymes to boot. This is a good flowing title already. Angela has been featured on the world's most influential platforms. At long last, we get to hear Angela Marshall herself. How are you doing this evening, Angela? Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for coming on the show.

Angela Marshall:
I am doing well, and thank you for having me. And the opportunity to share, and just impart, and prayerfully, and hopefully impact with your viewers and your followers. Thank you again.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, my pleasure. Oh, my goodness. It's all mine. This is amazing. I think it would be best, if you're OK with this, is open up with your story. You know, how you got here. I'm sure you've probably told it maybe once or twice from stage - just being a little funny there. But truly, it's very intriguing, and I know that once people see and hear about ex-NFL wife, oh, lots of questions come up, right? As I'm sure that's happened. So, would you mind telling us what your progression was? Start from wherever you feel is pertinent. I know you've done this before. And let our listeners know the essence of you and how you got to where you are now, if that would be all right.

Angela Marshall:
Absolutely. I am Angela Marshall, the story and life of an ex-NFL wife, and I started this platform about two years ago. And it all started from just a conversation, one final conversation that I had with my mom who was diagnosed with cervical cancer, who eventually died in 2013. And she just talked to me about telling my story. She knew that I was a pretty good writer and I had been journaling about my life for so long, because people would come up to me or if they knew or had heard that I used to be married to an NFL player you know they were a seeing what they thought my life was like or what they thought that it should be like. So, I would go home and I would journal about it, because sometimes you just get a little tired of trying to correct people or telling them a story that most would not believe anyway. So, I just set out on this journey really to just tell my story and life of an ex-NFL wife. And, with that being said, yes, you're right that most people do hear about rags to riches, rags to riches, but since I'm a creative thinker and I'm also very unique and rare, I added reality, because for me that's an important piece. The reality of who I was, where I was, and then what I've become now. So it kind of ties in the reality piece, kind of ties in with the rags to riches, and then it flows into the story and life of an ex-NFL wife. So, I just basically started this platform to tell my story so that I could help other people. Just to understand my journey of different, of diversity, and determination.

Brian Kelly:
My goodness. There are some great teaching moments here, Angela, when you were talking that came out that I love to segue into, just to alert the audience to these things so that they recognize the different traits of successful people like yourself. And that one thing that jumped out - there were several - but one that I like to call out was you saying that you are unique and rare about yourself. And I think that's important that people recognize and embrace that kind of approach in their own life, because we are too often our own worst enemies, always kicking ourselves in the butt instead of really lifting ourselves up in. Who loves you more than you? Nobody. And why are we the ones that are always, that self-talk, hammering, and knocking ourselves down? I love that you did that, because that just shows everyone out there: this is one of the qualities of success. So, get comfortable with it; own it. The more you do it, the easier comes. You could see when Angela did it. Her face was glowing. Her smile was big. She owns that and that's why she's so successful - one reason; there's many. She's working very hard. It's not super simple, everything that we do. And then I just want to really quickly say I'm sorry about your mom. I lost mine in '09 to breast cancer so I can totally relate. Well, let's move on to the positive stuff of this show and now that we have actual sound (Angela laughing), we're going to really have some fun. (Brian laughing) So, one thing I'd like to ask, Angela - and I'd like to ask this of most guests that come on, because I'm curious, and if I'm curious the odds are that the viewers are as well. And it's more about, so the bio was fantastic, we know about you on the surface but underneath the surface like when you get out of bed, when your feet hit the floor. If you're like me, you're groggy. You're just waiting for the cobwebs to kind of clear, and then they're starting to clear, and then you're starting to think about, "OK, what's coming up on the day?" And then there's that drive factor, that motivation factor, that hits successful people like you. What is that for you? What motivates you? When you get up in the morning, you're groggy, and you start coming to one of those things that come to your mind that say, "I've got this and I'm going for another day. This is going to be amazing."

Angela Marshall:
The first thing I do is I think about my family. I think about my grandsons, my children, my close friends. I think about everyone that is a supporter and encourager for me, that I do not and I will not allow any seed that they've planted into my life, I want it to bloom and I want it to blossom. So, I'm like pushing forward, because I'm like, "Oh, let me get the sleep out of my eyes. I may be a little under the weather, or sometimes I'm just in a mood where I just don't feel as motivated or as driven, but looking at them, I have their pictures everywhere. It automatically reminds me of who I am, what I am, and why I do what I do, which is very important. And then the second thing - which is equally as important that I do - is I sleep (and I know I probably shouldn't be telling this, but oh well! This is the Brian Kelly The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show with Brian Kelly so I'm gonna tell it) I sleep with my laptop. And so, I will reach over, and I automatically have YouTube pulled up, and I will play whatever motivational video comes up whether it is Les Brown or Tom Bilyeu, whomever; whomever is in the queue at that time. And then I just kind of set my mind for that day.

Brian Kelly:
That is amazing. I was writing notes and you're the first person I've heard that not just slept with a laptop or had it in bed next to him so you could crack it open, but that played inspirational videos so you could hear it. That's phenomenal.

Angela Marshall:
That's the first thing.

Brian Kelly:
So, another habit of successful people to the audience that is watching listening right now. Already we've barely scratched the surface of this amazing woman. I mean, think about this everyone is listening: an ex-NFL wife. So, all the spotlight's on her husband during that time, I would imagine. And, she's kind of an afterthought during that time, and that's a lot to overcome for many people, I would think. I can imagine how that would weigh on one's own psyche, ego, everything that goes with it. And, the thing that... I mean, look at you. Look at Angela. (Angela dancing) She's just - look at- she's just a ball of energy, of light; amazing. Has really built a life for herself, and is speaking three times a week. I mean, how many out there can say they speak anywhere three days a week? That's phenomenal. I love speaking from staging, and she's getting these gigs, being called to gigs, and that's because she has a message to help serve others. And, if you wouldn't mind, could you touch on what the message does, and what the impact you've seen, and noticed with audience members? Maybe they come up comment to you later. Now you've done so many of them. I'm curious just to know how that goes and what your message truly is.

Angela Marshall:
Absolutely! So, the feedback that I'm getting - which I have actually put into a motto - is they are motivated. They are illuminate it. They are celebrated, and most importantly, they are liberated, because that is my goal is to help free people. I really want people to embrace their power, their position, their purpose, their potential, their perspective, their progress, their productivity, everything - all the P's! Embrace it! (Anglea laughs) But, basically, people come up to me and they say, "I had no idea that as a former NFL wife these are some of the things that you went through, because these are things that I'm going through, so that makes you just like me." And I say, "of course! Because I'm a person, and I'm human. Just like that celebrity or that person in a position of power that you're idolizing. They are a person as well. They are human. They go through different things. It's just that some of our skill sets we are stronger in, but then we have weaknesses as well." So, from the feedback that I'm receiving most people are motivated. They're illuminated. They're celebrated. They feel celebrate it, because I do celebrate people in my audience, or if I'm speaking to a bunch of youth, and we're interacting, and we're having fun with different programs that I have created to also impact the youth around the CSR and abroad. And they feel liberated. They're freer after I speak. My message is not just one of hope, but it's definitely one that is helpful, and is one that is... if you leave an event that I've spoken at and you don't have anything, you can't take away anything... I don't know, maybe you went in with a different mindset, or maybe you have like a little bit more challenges than what I what my words can help with at that time. I'm as transparent as they come. I've had questions asked of me from here to there about the NFL lifestyle, about myself, about my ex-husband. And I'm just very, very free and forward. And, in order for me to do that, I actually had to just take a hard look at myself, my life, and then I had to stop blaming the status quo of, "OK. Well, yeah, I was in his shadow for some time, but at any given moment I probably could have shined my light. I just chose not to." And that is another - in my opinion - that is another overcomer that most successful people have incorporated into their lives, because you recognize what's wrong with you, and then you just go full speed ahead by any means, by all means necessary, to make those changes so that you can grow, and you can glow, and you can sew.

Brian Kelly:
Love it. Oh, yes! Full speed ahead! There's no other speed. Other than the only time you're stopped is when you're sleeping. There is no time to stop. And, I'm motivated. I feel motivated, illuminated, celebrated, and liberated. And, for me personally, the most powerful - they're all equally powerful - the one that jumps off the page to me is liberated. It's a release. It's a freedom. Once you combine everything together, now you're free to illuminate, and motivate, and celebrate even more. I love that. That is a cool moniker there; the four. And, if there ever is a person that attends something then you're speaking and they didn't get anything out of it, they were asleep. We'll just get that out of the way. (Angela laughing) That's ridiculous. I doubt that ever happened. And, I can't imagine. Like you said, they...no, they don't have it. No way. I can tell already. You've been doing this for a few years now, is that is that true?

Angela Marshall:
Yes, that is correct. Three years.

Brian Kelly:
And so, just like everyone else who's successful, you've done this completely, utterly, totally by yourself, with no help whatsoever, correct?

Angela Marshall:
(Angela laughing) No. That is not correct for me. I have an amazing team. I have an amazing set of supporters. And, if it were not for people like you - so, I'm going to toot your horn there -allow me to bring my platform on, allow me to speak, there would be no Story and Life of an ex-NFL Wife. So, I always get a little leery about people that do this self-proclaimed, what is it, self-made. Because even with that, it's kind of...I don't know a little irony or something. I'm not sure the word that I'm looking for, but you have to have- there is someone, or something, that is helping you to get to where you are, to be who you are, and to do what you're doing. So, I believe in my circle. And, I always say that I'm so happy that I have these links and not kinks. And you've got to be careful with that now, because some people are links and then others are kinks - they try to trip you up, and hold you up. But I have an amazing circle, and ever since I started out on this journey, it's been... if anything has happened negatively, it's mostly just from people who don't understand what I'm doing, why I'm doing it, or they don't want to understand it, or they're jealous. Let's just put it for how it is, because the lifestyle that I live is one that a lot of people won't get the opportunity. I'm not saying that they do, like everybody else that lifestyle, but to me, in this walk, there have been quite a few that I think would probably give their unborn children for it and probably take some blood samples. (Angela laughing) Which, I will say, it is an amazing lifestyle. The NFL gave exposure to my children, myself, that we would not have otherwise - we would not have been privy to, or we would not have had the privilege - to enjoy. But there were other...just things that me and my ex just had to deal with growing, because we were young. Sometimes you're thrust into a particular lifestyle, and you're still trying to mature, you're still trying to find your way, and find your purpose, and figure out your journey in life. And then that creates a different kind of a different situation. But, ultimately, the NFL lifestyle was amazing. It's just me and I'm just going to jump in there with that mindset, because my mindset was not where it needed to be at that particular time. And that's why I did not enjoy it as much as I could have or should have. But if I could go back in this mindset now, with this body now, with the business mindset that I have, it would be phenomenal.

Brian Kelly:
Well, I think it is phenomenal the way it is right now, too. That's great. And, one of the things you mentioned - I think it was right before we went on the show was - you actually have people helping you like mentors or coaches for speaking, right?

Angela Marshall:
Oh my gosh. Look, when I tell you I had no idea - I just thought people got up, they spoke, but it's a lot that goes into that, especially if you want to be a professional with it. And I wanted to be a professional. Now, I don't want to be, I don't want to tweak my words and articulate like an Oprah or anyone like that. I want to be Angela. However, if you want to be the best, they always say that you have to sit at the feet, so to speak, of the subject matter experts. And once I did that, I will say this, when I took on my two mentors, and they were training me how to speak, how to relate, how to watch for certain things in the audience and what not, my speaking requests and engagements doubled...

Brian Kelly:
...All because you accepted help, right?

Angela Marshall:
That was going to be - if you had asked me what is the biggest thing I learned along this entrepreneurship way, it would have been: do not be afraid... two things: do not be afraid to ask for help and then give help. Share knowledge. Share knowledge. I don't understand people that are entrepreneurs, or you're an expert in something, and then you have this green eyed monster to where you don't want to help me to get to where you are, because you're thinking I'm going to maybe shine a little brighter or what not. I mean, I've seen both sides of it. I've seen - I've had that, should I say, happen to me where people have been really, really helpful and just overly accommodating, and then I've seen the other half where people they talk to you, they take the initial conversation, then you don't hear from them. They're like, "call me in two weeks, or send me an email, or schedule an appointment or this or that," and you don't hear anything else from them. And I'm not saying that like everyone is jealous, but I do think that there is this little thing called competition, and where I think competition can be a good thing, in a positive purpose way. But when it comes to, if there's another author and she or he wants to speak, or they have a story to tell, and they want to be a part of my tour, or ask me to be a part of their tour, I welcome that. I welcome being a connection, as opposed to being in competition. But it's just, more times than not, unfortunately, it doesn't happen.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, things seem to work so much better when we're in a mindset of collaboration versus competition. And I love that you brought that up, because it also comes down to us individually, of who we are allowing to spend time in our life. If they are just going to try to drag us down - for whatever reason they may have - then it's our job to fire them as friends, or colleagues, or whatever they are. And not in a mean way, but just say, "you are with me or without me. You're not helping the cause. I have many people to serve. If you change later, come on back." Just this past week I was in Arizona for a little while, in Phoenix, and met up with some friends of mine - entrepreneurs - and they were doing just what you were saying. I mean, we just started naturally started talking about what we're doing, "hey, what are you up to these days, right?" And the second I said one thing, one of them jumped up on the whiteboard, and laid out this incredible - they call it a funnel - a sales funnel that helped me immensely. And he didn't ask for money. And that's the kind of people you want to be with. And that's the kind of people you want to be yourself, just like you are, Angela . How fulfilling life is when you help others, I think. It's just - there's no need for the competition. You can do things together; it's OK. There's more. If they take one client that could have been yours, guess what? There's another one and another.

Angela Marshall:
There's, like, a ton more. Yes

Brian Kelly:
Exactly. Thank you. Yes. So, that would come along the line of a scarcity mindset. If one is worried about competition, well, that's scarcity. Because there's more, there's plenty to go around. It's what we put in our mind that we perceive to be reality that truly isn't, most of the time. So, we talked a little bit about...so, we've talked business, we talked about your transformation from ex-NFL wife to super speaker from stage that's getting gigs all over the place. I love this. And so, we talked about building business, talked a little bit about mindset - you brought that up - and then, this kind of could go down the path of sports, but I don't want it to. I want it to go to just you, Angela, about physical fitness, and what role it plays in your life, why is it important to you, what have you noticed when you concentrate on staying physically fit? Just three questions in one, that's all. (Brian laughing)

Angela Marshall:
I know. I know, I'm like, "oh, OK. Let me see what I answer first." Well, I will say this: physical fitness, to me, is very high on the scale with the mind and spirit. I want to make sure that I am a good steward of all three of those things because those are the three things that will catapult me to be successful in every area of my life, not just my professional, my profession, or my career. I personally believe that physical fitness - one, you're gonna to feel better, so that's a no-brainer. And then, two, I think people do pay attention to you a little more when you are about your physical fitness. When you're maintaining your body - or you're trying to maintain your body - because by no stretch of the imagination am I saying I am like Serena Williams or Queen Whoever has this amazing physical fitness regimen. That's not it. But I do pride myself in making sure that I get workouts in at least five per week. And mainly it's just for - if I can be really, really honest - it's for mental stress. But fortunate for me, because I'm working on the body, and it's already helping me mentally as well, it's kind of like a double bonus, if you would. So being physically fit - I think that when you take care of your core, and you take care of your body, just as equally important as you take care of your mind - you can't help but be successful.

Brian Kelly:
I couldn't I couldn't agree more. The mind and body, I like to say, are a team. And more importantly, they're your team. And if either of the two of that team are not at a peak level performance, what happens to the team as a whole? Ie: You? It's not operating at that peak level and it's very obvious. So, I appreciate you bringing that up and mental stress. There's so many benefits of just moving. A lot of people think they need to do a two hour, horrible, CrossFit, sweat, die, pain, hurt, can't walk, (Angela laughing) home, can't drive home, everything's stiff. No. You just need to move on a regular basis. Start slow and work your way up. Get a personal trainer. Yes, another helper. A coach, if that will help you with the accountability factor, because that's always the main reason that people fall off is they're not accountable to anyone else. So many great things about fitness, physical fitness. Again, that's body, and mind, body, business - The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. It's perfect. And you set it mind body and spirit. Right?

Angela Marshall:
Right.

Brian Kelly:
And that makes total sense to have all three and I kind of combined mind and spirit together, but they're all part of each other, really.

Angela Marshall:
That's right. I agree.

Brian Kelly:
Kind of permeated through each other.

Angela Marshall:
That's right. You get the mind and a body and then it helps you to sustain the business, because you're feeling good. You're feeling great mentally. Your body - physically fitness wise - you're feeling amazing, so it's like, "I can take on the world. I'm a tiger!" (Angela laughing).

Brian Kelly:
You're right. That's exactly - you feel fantastic. You get up with energy, and if you don't, you're lethargic. And guess how much better - are you going to do anything better in business that day? No. Being an entrepreneur: is it easy Angela?

Angela Marshall:
Oh! Well, I'm sure every time you've asked that question most people - probably about 98% - have said, "No. It is not easy." It is not easy, but it is so fulfilling and satisfying. I will say that. it is something that has helped me to face myself - oh my gosh - and I needed that. I needed that in order to grow, and in order to evolve into the woman that I am. And not just...even if I didn't have the story and life of an ex-NFL wife, I needed to grow. And I think we all need some form of evolution. So, no, it has not been an easy journey. It's still not an easy journey. I have days, I have minutes, I have moments where I'm like, "Ugh, why did I walk this path? Why do I have these shoes on? Why do I feel like I'm walking the Green Mile?" (Angela laughing) But when I go back and review everything as far as how far I've come, when I first started this journey to where I'm at now, and then I also look at where I'm headed. If I had to do it all over again, and I don't care how many times I have to get in the ring, I don't care how many times I have to climb that mountain, or do the mud dance through the valleys, and whatever, I would do it all over again. Probably a little differently since I'm wiser, but definitely, I wouldn't trade it for the world. It gives me a sense of freedom. It gives me a sense of just being different in my thinking and just being able to have... I guess - let me see, how can I term it - have what I need for my family and for my friends. And that's an amazing part. To me, people that have a 9:00 to 5:00 so to speak or where they're kind of "stuck" on somebody else's time, sometimes you don't get that freedom to be able to control your time. And if I had to say anything about being an entrepreneur, even though sometimes the cash is a little different, the salary is a little up and down from week-to-week or month-to-month, but just the freedom with my time. Which, to me, is priceless, because that's the only thing I can't get back. Yeah, I can make more money, or if I truly wanted to increase my sales, or be a go-getter that week, I could do that. Sometimes I probably just get a little lazy on the scene. But the answer is No. Being an entrepreneur is not easy, but it is the most rewarding - especially when you are in a place to where you know what you're doing, and why you're doing it.

Brian Kelly:
Mmmm. That was beautiful. I got writer's cramp on that one. Thank you. (Angela laughing) Yes. Yes. And you said freedom. That's liberation - we talked about that earlier - and I noticed that... here's the thing: every entrepreneur that I personally know and those that I've interviewed on here that I didn't previously know - I'm getting to know Angela now. I didn't know her prior. I didn't really need to spend much time. It was like the first five seconds that, "I like her. She's a good one. She's a keeper."

Angela Marshall:
Oh, I'm a keeper?! Will you please spread that? (Angela laughing)

Brian Kelly:
That's right. That's a different show. We'll do that tomorrow. (Brian laughing) OK. And at the time, what you said though, the number one thing: so, all of this - the money, the freedom - it all comes down to one thing, and one thing only, and that is so you can have the time. You used the word time. Now you have choice what to do with your time, and that's where the liberation - it's like it comes back full circle again. The other thing, also, with entrepreneurship that I love so much is when you work for a corporate job you're working to pad and to line the pockets of that corporation. And it depends on what their mission or purpose is. It could be something you're in alignment with or you're just there to collect a paycheck, because that's the only job you could get. When you're an entrepreneur, you're doing both. You're lining your pockets but you're doing it while serving, and helping others, and you're making an impact that you want to make. Not what the other company is with their mission and purpose. So, it's another form of liberation. It's just choice.

Angela Marshall:
That's right.

Brian Kelly:
Hey, my mike was on that time! That's good. Alright!

Angela Marshall:
You did it, yay!

Brian Kelly:
We like to have fun; we keep it loose. And, again, for all you watching on Facebook, Periscope, everywhere: go ahead. Comment. Like. Love. Let us know you're out there. Let's get engagement going. Say hi to Angela. Ask a question if you want. If time permitting, we'll put it up on the air. Podcast - if you're listening to a podcast - this goes on 15 podcast platforms after the show's over. So if you listen on iTunes, Spotify - iTunes is going away, by the way. It's been renamed. iTunes itself is going away. Different sidebar - Google Play and all the other major podcast platforms. So thank you for listening to this recording. Appreciate you. And go ahead give us a rating - the five star rating. Any five star rating would be just perfect, and a review would be awesome. But this show is about the one, the only, Angela Marshall. And one thing I'm always - this is another one of curiosity questions, Angela - and that is: I'm always curious, always, about how other entrepreneurs do this. How they do this thing called entrepreneurship? How do they get the word out? How do they get the branding done? Literally, how do they market themselves to become successful? And I get that marketing is multifaceted. There are many legs to it. But, if you were to pick out one form of marketing that was the absolute most successful form of marketing for you - in the past, it could have been in the beginning, it could be recently. But if you could just pick out one, what would you tell the listeners is a good place to go look, or that just worked for you, and that you would share with us that was really successful for yo?

Angela Marshall:
So, initially, one thing that was really good for me was doing the Facebook and IG Boost. So, I would make a post - and it is actually very inexpensive, or can be inexpensive, it just depends on your pockets. And so, I would do these little posts with different inspirational quotes and sayings, I would take little excerpts from my book, I would do interactive videos, and then I would boost it. And before I knew it, I had almost 7,000 followers and I had notifications coming in, like people buying books, and then I had people going to my website, because I also would list my website on there. And they were requesting me to speak, just different things that were helpful initially. Now, what I've done, is I've stepped it up a little bit. And so, I have a publicist and she is well connected in that world, and so she helps me to get on different platforms and whatnot. So, it has a different associated costs with that. But initially, I did pretty much all of it myself. I did from IG to Facebook, and then of course LinkedIn. But the thing is, is that anything that you do marketing-wise, you will need to be dedicated, and you will have to schedule it into your calendar - meaning making the post, being able to let people know what you're doing, and why you're doing it. I do different facets for my business. I do a personal post from time to time where I make myself more humanized - I'm a human, but you know... (Angela laughs). I make myself more humanized, so I would do something quirky, or something funny, or what not. I may show my family from time to time. I may get online and dance because I'm known for my my dancing. Then I'll get on and I'll put my book up there, and then I'll tell people how they can get my book. I'll tell them different things that I'm doing, different events that I'll be a part of. Ant so, I'm just very, very active when it comes to social media, when it comes to marketing, advertising for myself. And then I have an amazing son. I will say that he helps me as well with my marketing. And my daughter - oh my God. I'm sorry. I left out my daughter. So, I actually have two children that helped tremendously, because they are like social media gurus, and they help to share, and like and all of that. And then, the third thing I will say is join different groups that are aligned with your business. And then, on the days that they allow you to post, you post. You post about your business, you post about your book, your whatever it is that you're trying to market and advertise. That's like free advertisement. Who wouldn't want to do that?

Brian Kelly:
I think those are great suggestions for everyone listening. It's interesting, because that works. What you just said. It works. And you'll see there are some very prominent entrepreneurs out there that say, "you don't need to do that. Just go this other route and pay for Facebook ads," which is/can be a daunting expense for many just starting out. And boosting posts - I haven't done that in a long time. You've got me thinking about especially Instagram. Instagram has really picked up. What you said - oh, for you listening - she said Facebook, or FB and IG, that was Facebook and Instagram - just to make, sure because I got it right away and I thought, "I wonder... OK, that's good". And the other thing is, just as you got help for coaching, and mentoring in speaking, and all that, I got help. Now, I have three apprentices at this very moment that are doing my social media campaigns for me - with some guidance, but now it's hands off. They're creating memes. I've uploaded a lot of pictures of myself that we've taken over trips, and I've had another apprentice extract quotes from these past shows that they found profound that were out of my mouth and please research and make sure no one else said 'em - don't put my name next to them if I was just parroting like a Les Brown or somebody - and then put them on a picture, and create a graphic, and then post it. Schedule it, like you said. Schedule.

Angela Marshall:
Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
Genius. All of it's the same. So, the point is to everyone watching, you can do this even if...you you don't need to do it by yourself. That's my point. I've got apprentices. You can get them right now for the equivalent of about a dollar an hour, and they live in our hemisphere - like the U.S. and Canada - and they speak our language, and they're in your relative time zone. So, it's different than a VA. But, we'll go into that at some other time. For those you interested, reach out, and just give me a shout out, and ask me and I'll give you the info on that because it's been - talk about liberating, Angela - when you get help isn't that awesome? (Brian laughs)

Angela Marshall:
Yes! It is amazing. And it's so funny how we're all - usually, women more so I think than men but...definitely, we have this "S" on our shirt in case for Superwoman. And we don't, we don't want to ask for help, because I don't know if this a mindset of feeling like you're weak, or is just like, "let me just do it a thousand times wrong and then I'll figure it out" as opposed to asking for help. But, yes, I will say that once I started just going to people and saying, "Please, will you share this? Will you host a book signing for me, or will you help do this or will you do that?" I was pleasantly surprised. Yea, you have naysayers, little crabs in the barrel, from time to time when you go to certain ones or certain ones that you think would help you and they don't. But like you mentioned earlier - and I can't remember if it was when you and I were just talking, or once we got on - where four times a night, yea, it is a ton. You have a ton of people at your disposal any time that is willing to help you, so utilize the help. Just ask for help. And I'm not afraid to do that. Initially, I don't think it was so much as I was afraid as it was, "well, if I'm an entrepreneur, and I'm trying to do this - being an entrepreneur by myself - does that mean I can just chart this course on my own?" But I bumped my head enough time, and I spent a whole lot of money down the drain doing things wrong, and I quickly learned how to ask for help.

Brian Kelly:
That's good. And speaking of money down the drain and having issues, a lot of people think it's all a success; it's all easy. They're finding out now that's not the case. Most of them know intuitively it's not. But one of the things I like to also find out is - thank you for revealing your your wins on marketing and how you got win about that. On the flip side, we do have those times - many - when we don't succeed. Little failures along the road that just get us that much closer to the next success. The best thing to do is to fail, and fail often, and fail fast, because the faster you do it, the quicker you'll get to the success point. So, for you, pick out one or two failures that you would. I mean, I don't know. I don't like the word "failure," but bump in the road, and what have you learned from them that helped you to propel yourself even farther into the success realm?

Angela Marshall:
Well, I will say this: one that was a little challenging for me mentally. When you're standing on the stage, or you have an opportunity for someone to choose you out of a list of three or four or 100 people, and their credentials seem a little more impressive than yours...it was, initially that was kind of scary or kind of intimidating for me. Because I would say, "OK, do they really want to hear about the Story and Life of an ex-NFL Wife? Do they want to hear about my topics and my content as opposed to hearing Dr. So-and-So or Such-andSuch?" I am definitely a supporter, and an advocate for higher education and higher learning - 100%. But I guess because I didn't have some of those same credentials, I would kind of shrink in fear from time to time. And so, for me, I felt if I didn't get selected to speak, or say the person did not return a message as far as I was submitted for the approval for the podcast, or radio show... initially, that's what my mind would go to. It was like, "OK, well, my credentials weren't quite strong enough." So, from that standpoint I feel like a failure. I guess I felt like I was failing until my mentor - one of my mentors - mentioned and said, "listen, you have an amazing testimony and an amazing story. Not only that, you have a lifestyle not just from an NFL perspective, but even just other things in my life - being able to convert downs and likes to wins and how do you make positive plays every day? Live vicariously through yourself." These are things that I am definitely, actively, helping people with and giving them a different perspective of embracing the greatness that is within them. And so, from that standpoint, I just looked at it and I was like, "well, you know, that's not really failing." It's just that sometimes - just like when I was a kid in different pageants or different things - sometimes you win, and then other times you learn so that you make sure you get selected the next time. (Angela and Brian laughing)

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, we can often undersell ourselves to ourselves, can't we?

Angela Marshall:
Oh, 100% and I was my worst critic. I was my hardest critic. And then, the things that I was worried about, I'm pretty sure... now, that may have been the case with some of the organizations, or some of the shows that I was submitting that we were trying to get interviews and stuff on, but more times than not, that's not it. It was in my mind. It's what I made up about myself in my mind, and I just had to overcome it and say, "I deserve to be on any stage period." I don't care whether I have PhD behind my name. If I have doctor - Dr. - in front of my name. If I had she, misses, miss, young lady, or whatever. I believe that I deserve to be on that stage. And then, I had to - like you mentioned earlier in the show - I had to go from selling myself short, and not tooting my own horn from time to time. Because you're brought up and it's like, "well, don't boast. And don't be cocky. That's being arrogant." But I think there's a fine line between that, because I'm very confident. I'm very sure about who I am. But then the other piece is is that not only am I confident in myself, but then I help other people to become confident as well. So, I think that's where you have to kind of draw the line. I tell people, "I am going to always - you can quote me on this - I'm going to always do two things: command room and I'm gonna change the atmosphere." It's just in me. It's who I am. (Angela laughing)

Brian Kelly:
I believe. Absolutely.

Angela Marshall:
Yes.

Brian Kelly:
Yes -credentials. How many times in the speaking industry - this is so perfect, because you see Dr., PhD, with all of these ribbons and everything pinned on them, and they go up on stage. How many times have you seen one that's achieved a lot intellectually that puts the crowd to sleep through boredom? Yeah. And it happens.

Angela Marshall:
A lot.

Brian Kelly:
And that's why - that's a big reason why - you don't need - no one. Not you personally but no one - needs credentials, or certificates, or "atta boys," or "atta girls" to qualify to be on stage. If you can tell a story, and you're captivating in doing so, then you're on. You don't even have to be an established business person and in many cases. It depends on the venue and what it's about, but storytelling is more important than the content that you're delivering. It's amazing.

Angela Marshall:
That's right. Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
And I imagine you have some incredible stories that you could go on for a long time about. And you have that. You have that interest. You have that great - I guess call it hook - about being an ex-NFL wife. I mean, instantly, the second we got on, before the show, I stepped on my tongue and said, "hey, do you mind telling me the name of your ex-husband?" (Angela laughing) I knew I shouldn't ask but I did. I was curious.

Angela Marshall:
That's alright. Well, you know, it is a part of it, and that is another marketing tool, because the name of my book is actually The Reality, The Rags to Riches, but I taglined "Story and Life of an ex-NFL Wife," because of that. I'm like, "ah, people are gonna walk past or they're going to see reality, or they're going to see rags/riches and go 'ah, just another rags to riches story. She's seeing more of the same.'" But when I put that little piece on there, that made me a little different, boosting me up a little bit, brought me out front on a bookshelf, then I began to see a little bit more traffic my way. So, you've got to use what you got to get what you want, right?

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. Exactly. Leverage what you have, because that's just genius marketing. I would imagine you could use this the rest of your career, and it will do you very well.

Angela Marshall:
Yes. Thank you.

Brian Kelly:
Why not? And then all the things that add to it as you and say, "now, world renowned international speaker," and everything that goes with it, right?

Angela Marshall:
Well, and then all the other frustrations and whatnot that I went through doing that lifestyle: it owes me! (Angela and Brian laughing) I'm just playing. I'm just playing.

Brian Kelly:
It made you stronger. It made you the person you are that's taken on the world, and every stage in it. I love it.

Angela Marshall:
Yes. Leave no stage unturned. (Angela laughing)

Brian Kelly:
Ah, I like it. I like it. You have some really cool sayings. I've gotta write...OK, it's recording. I'll get it later. We are almost out of time. I cannot believe this, Angela. There's one defining question I'd like to ask each of my guests, and I've done this for a while now. We're approaching 50 shows now - live TV shows - and I'd like to ask this question of each guest. And the interesting thing is, it can take thought. Some of them go into deep thought for a little bit. Others, it's instant retrieval. And it's what I like to leave the show with, because it's really personal. And it helps get it back to who is Angela, and we close the show more that way. But before we get to that, I would be remiss - I almost forgot - we need to remind our viewers that are watching live how they can win that five-night stay at a five-star Mexican resort. I'm going to put it up on the screen right now. And here is what you do. (Informational screen) You now have my permission to go and type in a URL - or it might be easier to pick up your phone and text instead - but there are two ways you can either go to your browser and type in TheMINDBODYBUSINESSShow.com/vacation. TheMINDBODYBUSINESSShow.com/vacation. Just enter your name, phone number I think yeah name and phone number of there and you'll be interned immediately or you can text the word PEAK - that's P-E-A-K- to the number of (661) 535-1624. That's PEAK to (661) 535-1624. This entire - this whole vacation package - is given to us, and to you, by our wonderful sponsors and happens to be a great personal friend of mine who is the owner of PowerTexting.com, and that's Jason Nast. He's an amazing gentleman. So, all this PowerTexting.com, I use his service as well. It's an amazing service, so that's another great marketing tool. Just saying. All right. We're going to come back back to the woman of the hour and get to that deep-digging question that you could tell she is a pro. There's not even a bead of sweat. She's not worried about it at all. And the cool thing is though, Angela, actually there is no such thing as a wrong answer. It's impossible. And it's just the opposite, actually. The only correct answer is your answer, because it is a personal thing. We're not going deep into a personal thing, it is what you define it to be. Are you ready?

Angela Marshall:
I'm ready.

Brian Kelly:
All right. Angela Marshall: how do you define success?

Angela Marshall:
Success is my grandchildren, my children, my family. Being able to leave a legacy of an amazing dash for them. Now, with that being said, that amazing legacy with that dash is everything that is good about Angela. Everything that was bad about Angela. Everything that was, or that is, that molds me, that frames me, that helps me to be the person that I am today. Just knowing that my life impacted - or will impact theirs - in a way where they will have lots of memories. They will have lots of quotes and sayings for them to maneuver through their life. That is the ultimate epitome of success for me.

Brian Kelly:
And, true to form - I didn't even say this earlier - but no two guests have ever said the same answer, and it's true even after yours. And another thing that I find extremely interesting is, some will mention the word but it's never the primary word - I don't think you mentioned it - none of them define success as acquiring a certain amount of money. Your first big reason was legacy. I mean, you talked about grandchildren, children, family all for the purpose of leaving a legacy. And so, that just shows - true to form - who you are, Angela. And there is - I almost forgot - that you also had a gift that you were looking to give to our viewers. And so, I have your website up. And, if you remember what that gift was, if not I can help remind you...

Angela Marshall:
Yes. No. I know: the first two people to actually e-mail me and they write in either the subject or the body part, if they say "From Stumbling Blocks to Stepping Stones," they will receive an autographed book from me. And also you have to remember to put your mailing address, and I will get that book right on over to you.

Brian Kelly:
All right. And that email address is AuthorStone - it's author, like the book writer; stone, like a stone's throw away - @InOtherWordsByStone - B-Y - stone .com. So its [email protected], and in the subject line mention "Stumbling Blocks to Stepping Stones," and two people will get autographed copies of this amazing new book. I can't wait to get my own copy because I know it's going to be amazing - an amazing read - like the person we're talking to right now is so amazing. Angela, thank you so very much. And just to give folks a way to reach out to you, what is the absolute best way for them to connect with you? If they want to reach out to you, is it Facebook, email - what's your favorite?

Angela Marshall:
So, equally, either Facebook or my email through my website. When you go to my website it does give you the option where you can contact me. So, any of those avenues come straight to me, but I am active on Facebook. So, if they want to just send me a message, I would be more than happy to respond, reply, and react accordingly.

Brian Kelly:
And I just want to point out real quick to help viewers find you on Facebook, because they won't find you by "Angela Marshall." They'll find you by Author Stone - two words: Author Stone. Took me a while to find you.

Angela Marshall:
Well, and here's the other piece: when you go to my website, the little Facebook icon, it will send them there. And then, also, I just recently found this out that when you Google me or you Google "Angela Marshall," there's an actual link that comes up to my Facebook page. So, that was pretty cool, too. I mean, I knew it would take you to my website or some other social media outlets, and there's some other stories, and all that just all that great stuff. I didn't know that it would actually take you to a link so I guess I must be getting pretty popular there, huh, Brian? I'm getting like Facebook links and everything.

Brian Kelly:
(Brian laughing) Yes! That's part of getting the word out there. Posting regularly, having a website, being on stage, having people talk about you. You had mentioned it all plays into this wonderful, the whole algorithm of getting you up closer on Google, and having links show up for you. It's awesome. Just like you are awesome, Angela. Thank you so much once again for being on. I can't believe it's time to say goodbye to everybody. I'm having separation anxiety already but we have to do this to.

Angela Marshall:
Me, too. I know; it's very painful for me as well. You get comfortable especially when - I'm going to toot your horn again - you have an amazing show host. And you have definitely been that. Definitely an engaging, and enlightening, and entertaining one, might I add...and educating one. So, definitely The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, you have my three, four, five, 10,000 thumbs up, and I appreciate the opportunity to be in front of you guys, always. Thank you.

Brian Kelly:
Thank you, Angela. And for everyone watching and listening, thank you as well; we appreciate you. We will be back next week for another phenomenal edition of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. For the amazing Angela Marshall, this is Brian Kelly saying goodbye for now and be blessed everyone.

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Angela Marshall

Angela Marshall, also known as “Author Stone,” is an Augusta, Ga., native, entrepreneur, and positive words powerhouse that utilizes her personal life experiences of struggle, strength, and success to captivate audiences and readers abroad. Author Stone is a motivational presenter, published bestselling author, columnist, ex-NFL wife, and creative writing consultant. Having struggled through a lavish but sorely lacking lifestyle as a former NFL wife, that chapter in her life proved pivotal to her "wise words woman" nickname. It also produced the transparency in her inspiring inquiring minds want to know auto-biography, “Reality to Rags to Riches; The Story and Life of an Ex-NFL Wife.” Angela has been featured on the world’s most influential platforms.

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Narrator :
So, here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us, who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back. Who are dedicated, determined, and driven. How do we finally break through and win? That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly, and this is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show.

Brian Kelly:
Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Super excited for tonight's show. We have not just one, not two, not three, but four, four amazing guest experts who are joining me tonight right here on this very stage.

Brian Kelly:
They are waiting in the wings at this moment. So let's get busy. Shall we? The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, that is a show about what I call the three pillars of success, and that came about as a result of my study of only successful people in the last decade or so. And these patterns kept bubbling to the top and those patterns being mine, which is mindset set. Each and every successful person, to a person, had a very powerful and flexible mindset. So I learned that and said," I need to implement that". Then body: body is about literally taking care of yourself. Through nutrition and through exercise, exercising on a regular basis, and again that was another pattern of very successful people and in business. These successful people had mastered the skill-sets that were necessary to create, maintain, and grow a thriving business. They're wide and varied. It's like marketing, sales, team-building, systematizing. It goes on and on and on, leadership. There's no one person, in my humble opinion, that could master every single one of these. All you have to do is master just one, and I actually mentioned one of those. It was in that list. I don't know if anyone caught that, but if you master just one of those skill sets then you're good to go. That skill set is leadership. When you've mastered the skill set of leadership, you can then delegate those skills off to people who have those skill sets. See where I'm going? Good. That's what successful people do; the ones that I studied, anyway, over the course of about 10 years. That's what this show's about. It's a show for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs. I got four guests waiting, and I'm not going to wait any longer. So, I think we should just bring them on. What do you think? Let's do it.

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Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. So like I said, my name is Dylan Shinhoser. I own a couple of different businesses. I'm owner of a company called, "Experience Events", which is event management. I'm also a director of business development at a virtual event, event ticketing, and virtual event platform called, "ViewStub". As well as a co-host of another show called, "Event Masters", where I just ramble all day, every day about how to produce better experiences. It's really all I know and love to do is events. That is my less than 60-second pitch about myself.

Brian Kelly:
That's a good one, too. I'll tell everybody I've spoken with you in person. We had a call some time ago, and this gentleman, Dylan, is made of integrity and great character. So, reach out to him if you need any assistance in any of the areas he talked about, or if you just want to say hi to a really great guy. Then get in contact with him, and at the end of the show, we'll go through that. Please. Somebody remind me if I forget how to contact each of you. Because that's very important to me. This is the reason I bring this show to the forefront. (It) is to bring people like you into the lives of those who may not know who you are yet, and even those that do, to experience even more of your brilliance, your experience, your knowledge, and your value. It's not about me. This is about you. Always, always. Every time. I have one guest, usually. I just feel like I'm in this big family right now. But let's keep moving. Julie Riley, amazing young woman. Take it away.

Julie Riley:
Yes. So, I am Julie Riley. I am the social media manager at StreamYard. The platform we're using right now. Prior to my time with StreamYard, I owned my own marketing agency. I've been in digital marketing since two thousand and seven. So the very, very early days of the start of it is when I jumped in(to) digital marketing, and I love just being able to help others succeed in their business.

Brian Kelly:
Fantastic, and I will also say that I have spoken with Julie in the past. Both through a typewritten chat form and verbally. I think it was Clubhouse first time, which was phenomenal. Yet another phenomenal person, incredible integrity, and character. And yes, you're going to notice there's a pattern about this with the remaining two. It's the same thing. Hopefully, we can get the last one to talk a little bit. That will be nice. I'm just having fun because we were having fun before the show started. The one smiling. The biggest down there with the green hood; not pointing anyone out or anything. Thank you, Julie, for coming on. Yes. These people, Julie and Christian specifically, I know Christians coming up here in second. They're non-stop. They don't stop working. It's evident because of the very software research we're using right now. It's of grand quality for a reason. It's because of people like Julian Christian who keep everything rolling smoothly on the back end. Dylan's there nodding his head emphatically because he gets it. It's a lot of work, and they're doing it masterfully and we appreciate you. All right. Enough of the favoritism here that felt like favoritism. Julie's our favorite. Timothy McNeely! My buddy, my friend from just a little north of where I reside. I believe. If I remember.

Timothy McNeely:
Central California, baby. Bakersfield. Yeah, my name is Tim McNeely. Today, so many dentists and driven entrepreneurs are just not sure if they're getting advice that really makes a difference for them. They may have a financial adviser who is giving them some advice on their investment portfolio, but they're not really sure that they're on the right track to really maximize their net worth outside of their business. That's what I help them do. Maximize your net worth so that you can keep taking care of the people you love, support the causes you care about, really make that difference in the world, and build an amazing life of significance. I love doing streaming because I get to talk to some of the best of the best out there and share the knowledge with the beautiful entrepreneurial community.

Brian Kelly:
I'll tell you something on a personal note as well. Literally, we talked earlier today, Tim and I, on a Zoom call. He just reached out to me and said, "let's catch up." I had him on the show some time ago as a single, solo guest, and he was phenomenal. We've just kind of maintained a relationship, a friendship ever since. He just wanted to reach out and say, "Hi" and "What's up? What do you want to talk about?" We just started talking about business and things. He gave me resources that will help me in my business, and hopefully, I reciprocated it somehow. I don't know if I did, but it is the people like Tim, like Julie, like Dylan, like Christian. That is the cloth that they are all cut from. They are here to help people. That's why I love entrepreneurs. I love all of you. I mean it. I do. I love you. You guys are amazing. I didn't even get a crack at a Christian on that one. Jeez, I mean... there we go. That's a little better, but I'm telling you, he's working on StreamYard our stuff right now as we're on the show. I mean, I'm.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm really trying not to, seriously.

Brian Kelly:
The founder Geige Vandentop. If you ever watch this, there's a message to you. Ease up on your people. Alright? Just having fun. Alright, Timothy, you're an amazing guy. Thank you for spending your valuable time and coming on here. As well as Dylan, Julie, and the ever so talkative one, Christian. I'm not going to attempt to say your last name. I'll let you take care of that one. Welcome to the show, Christian. Let's hear all about your brilliance.

Christian Karasiewicz:
Sure. Thanks a lot for having me. My name is Christian Kerasiewicz. I'm the content marketing manager at StreamYard. So, pretty much anything you see on our blog that we're going to soon be launching. I'm the mastermind behind that. So, I do that. In addition to that, I also host live stream reviews, a YouTube show. We also do on the StreamYard YouTube channel where we invite people on to talk about their live streams and help them work through some of their problems, some of their challenges that they might be having with getting community or building a show. Thanks a lot for having me. I appreciate it.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, my gosh. Thank you again, Christian, for your time and being here. I mean, he's literally building a blog while on a live show. I mean, that's a great thing. I'm not even kidding with this one. That is phenomenal. That is showing such dedication. So, it's more than that. It's passion. It's love. You know? What time is that where you are, Christian?

Christian Karasiewicz:
About 9 o'clock, or yeah... about 9 o'clock.

Brian Kelly:
(Nine o'clock) PM. Ladies and gentlemen, in case you're watching this recording. Yes. By the way, I'm going to be on twenty-five different platforms after this is over. So no pressure, but don't mess up. I'm just kidding. So, this is a phenomenal group of people, and I can't wait to dig in. Christian, just what you just said, what you do is right down the alley of what I was hoping to talk about tonight. It'll go organically, but I wanted to talk about... I mean, look at Julie, and look at Christian, and look at their images. Look at their video. It is gorgeous. Here, we'll start with a really gorgeous one first. Look at that. I mean. If there were nose hairs that weren't in place, we'd see them. That's phenomenal, and there is Julie. Wow. Very beautiful. Even more beautiful. I should just have her up like this all the time, and we can just talk in the background. Because, you know, maybe more people would come on. So, you guys have phenomenal camera setups, and here's one thing I always like to preach to those who are getting into the live streaming game. Does it take money? Yes, it does. It takes resources. It takes cameras, microphones, (a) computer, internet, good internet, fast internet, lighting, doesn't have to be fancy. What I always say though, is, do the best you can with the resources you currently have. OK, I wanted to start it off that way because what we're about to talk about with Julie and Christian is their cameras. They are top of the line. We're not talking a one-hundred or two-hundred-dollar webcam here. I like to let ladies go first. So, Julie, do you have a story when you first turned on your new camera versus when you had the webcam and what that looked like and felt like.

Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh, I turned that camera on, and it was immediately noticeable (the difference). I actually did a live on my personal Facebook page where I logged myself in as a second user into StreamYard. I had my Logitech camera that I had been using up as a camera and then had my new one. So, I could do back and forth and show everybody the difference between the two. What an upgrade that was. The Logitech served me great for years. It didn't stop me from going live, but that upgrade was immediately like, "oh, I can never go back down now".

Brian Kelly:
So, that so that is one thing. Let's say you're on the road, and I can imagine at some point both you and Christian, maybe, you'll be sent on the road to maybe support conventions and things that are on the road. Now, you want to stream live, what are you going to do then?

Julie Riley:
Well, you know, the great thing about the Sony is (that) it's a small camera. Tripods, portable ones, are small. I can take it with me. If all else fails, and I'm either on my phone or I'm on my little webcam or even my built in webcam, it's not going to stop me from going live. Is it going to be exactly what I want? No, but more than likely I'll have the Sony with me.

Brian Kelly:
Thank you for saying that. I mean, that spoke such volumes. I hope people are taking notes that are watching. Definitely take notes on this. Because, look, the show must go on. That's what I say, and this show tonight is the result of a guest who unfortunately was ill and could not make it on. So, I scrambled and found these four wonderful people to say, "I'll come on and do a panel with you." And that's it. The show must go on, and I'm going to either do it with people or I'll do it solo. It doesn't matter. Consistency is key, and we can talk more about that, too. I love how you're just talking about, Julie. Where, look, I don't care where I'm at. If I've got something and it's my time to go live, and I don't have my gear. I'm doing it.

Julie Riley:
Right.

Brian Kelly:
I love that commitment. So, thank you for that. For everyone listening, that's important. Yes, quality is important. Like I said, do the best you can with what resources you currently have. That includes, wherever you are. You may have a DSL camera that Julie paid five-hundred thousand dollars for. Oh, sorry, it wasnt that much.

Julie Riley:
Thank God it wasnt that much!

Brian Kelly:
What was the model of that again?

Julie Riley:
A6000.

Brian Kelly:
What does it run about?

Julie Riley:
It was about seven hundred.

Brian Kelly:
OK, not too bad. A little bit less than five-hundred thousand. Not much but yeah.

Julie Riley:
Yeah.

It's a phenomenal thing, and I love that that's your attitude toward commitment. I'll tell you. You have a similar attitude...anytime I go and ask for support through the back side of StreamYard community. I mean, like through messaging. When I say the backside, that's sounded weird. When I ask for support, you're always there. I mean, you don't sleep, and I appreciate that. So, keep not sleeping for everybody's sake. Christian, you do the same. So, Christian, what about you? When you made that initial change from whatever camera you had before to this unbelievably clear one year look you're working with right now. What did that feel like the moment you saw a difference?

Christian Karasiewicz:
So, it's very interesting actually. So, this is actually what I was using before. I've been using this for quite a number of years. This is a Logitech Brio. It does do 4K. I invested in this one and eventually came out, and the quality was fantastic. The only thing was, though. I wanted to scale. So this was great for traveling, for example. This is what I took around with me. Super portable. It's got the ability to put it on a tripod. Fantastic, but it did not allow me to scale, so I had to always take up another USB port and all that sort of thing. When I moved to the Sony, the Sony looked very good. I will say the one thing you have to do, though, is you need to go through the settings. There are a few adjustments you want to change. That's what's going to actually enhance your picture quality of it. It's a fantastic camera. It's a Sony 6400. Then, really, the other side to it is also the lens. So I'm using a Sigma lens. So, that I think is the real big difference. I mean you have the kit lenses it comes with. I did make the investment in the the additional lens, which I think that's actually what's contributing to why it looks so good. I will say from a quality standpoint, again, start with what you have. You know, the key things for live streaming. Audio is going to be your most important part. Then also, if you, for example, are using one of these webcams, make sure you have enough light. These things look great with a lot of light. When you don't have a lot of light, you're going to see pixelation. You're going to see distortion and things like that. So, turn it back to you.

Brian Kelly:
Especially with light, if you turn on the green screen feature, you really need to have good lighting then. That's the biggest time. I'm so glad to be liberated from that. Even though I loved it. This is actually a natural well behind me. I painted the entire studio. I actually occupy my daughter's former bedroom. I've been here for four or five years now, and I finally got rid of the cartoon drawings and the yellow paint. I'm a real boy now. I have a real studio. This is awesome.

Christian Karasiewicz:
That looks really good by the way. I was very surprised (by) your background because that looks like one of the standard backgrounds people would normally bring up during a live stream. One that has, you know, the gradient going around the outside. So, whoever did the painting on that fantastic job.

Brian Kelly:
Why, thank you very much. My wife did most of the work to be honest, but I feel like that helps with that. Yeah.

Timothy McNeely:
If you want that comparison between cameras. Right. Christine was just talking about the Logitech Brio. That's what I'm on, and you can see the massive quality difference between Kristen and Julie versus the webcam. So. Right. (A) huge step up.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, we'll point that out in glowing detail right now.

Christian Karasiewicz:
You're using a green screen. Right?

Timothy McNeely:
Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
Your sound, Christian, is smooth. I mean, you have a great radio voice. Having that microphone, I think will pivot to that too. Dylan, what are your thoughts on cameras? Yours looks actually really decent right now? You're on (a) green screen, correct?

Dylan Shinholser:
Correct. Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
It looks really clean. You've done a good job with all the lighting. It's almost like you've done this before, and you know what you're doing.

Dylan Shinholser:
I try. Yeah. So, I actually when I first started doing it, I started listening back on my phone. When this whole pandemic hit, I was using the one inside your laptop and realized very quickly (that) I'm on calls all day, live streaming shows and stuff. I was like, "I got to set my game up." So, I haven't made that leap yet to the DSLR, but I will. I'm on a Logitech, one of the models. I won't even lie because I'm not that tech-savvy. It was expensive for Logitech, so I bought it. I was like, "it's got to work." So, yeah. So, that's where I'm at. I agree heavily. I think it comes down to, because we get asked it and I know you guys get asked, it comes down to what you can afford at the moment. Then always trying to push the limits of production value. Right? My background was a wall. It was just like random yellow wall, and now I have a giant green screen wallpaper now. So, now, I can be wherever I want which is a concert. That's where I want to be, and that's where I'm going to be.

Brian Kelly:
You're the one on the stage, brother. Not the audience.

Dylan Shinholser:
No, I'm actually the guy behind the stage. I never want to be this. It's actually weird for me to be in front of people. I'm the guy behind the stage telling people to get on the stage.

Brian Kelly:
Pushing them forward. Well, you do a good job, Dylan. I wouldn't know any different. Maybe your calling is to step out from behind and be on front more often.

Dylan Shinholser:
We will see. Twenty twenty-one has a lot of stuff, and I've got a long way to go. I got super bored in twenty-twenty so I might as well talk.

Brian Kelly:
I've gotten to know you a little bit over time, and you've got a great personality. I think you need to shine in front of more people. That's my humble opinion.

Dylan Shinholser:
I appreciate that.

In the front, not behind the scenes. It's okay to be behind the scenes on occasion, but someone like you with your personality and your integrity, your character...get out there, buddy. It's a disservice if we don't get to see you. Let me put it that way.

That's what a mentor of mine said. He was like, "dude, you're actually being selfish by not talking more and getting it out." Because like I said at the beginning, I only want to help more people create better experiences and events. Make them flow better and make them more money as humanly possible. At the end of the day, I just want to travel the world with cool people and do cool things. I've learned a lot, and a lot of people need some of that experience. So, I got a stern talking to by one of my mentors. He was like, "dude..." I was like, "alright, it's alright. I promise." I started live streaming then had to get better cameras, better lights going on. It's crazy up here in my little command center of all these different lights, webcams, and monitors. Everything you need to do to pull these shows off.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I love it. Christian, go ahead.

Christian Karasiewicz:
So, I want to throw something in there real quick. We talked about various types of cameras. If you're just getting started, use that built-in laptop, the webcam. So then you can take it up a notch. You can go to the Logitech. The C922. That's about, I think, a 60 to 70 dollar webcam. So, don't overpay by the way. It's about 60 to 70 dollars. Get it from Logitec, probably. If you find an astronomical price on Amazon, move up to like the Brio, for example. If your budget allows it, that's about one hundred fifty dollar camera. Then move up to a DSLR. For example, Julie's got that, the Sony 6000. I would also say if you happen to have a smartphone, this can be used as a webcam. Essentially, if you think about it, this is a thousand dollar camera. Because you paid a thousand dollars for this device of sorts, and this will give you some phenomenal picture quality. If you already have a smartphone and you don't have to have the latest iPhone, it could be pretty much any iPhone and Android phone. You just need an app such as one called,"Camo." There's one called,"Erion." So, there are lots of apps out there. Don't think like, "hey, I have to now go drop a bunch of money." Look at the phones you have lying around. Those are going to be great ways to fix your picture quality.

Julie Riley:
I've been going live since 2015, and I only had this camera last year.

Brian Kelly:
That's it. You keep reinvesting. I had a good friend of mine who were business partners. He said, I'll never forget it,"sales drive service". When you're making money, you're able to invest. You're able to up your game, and I love that. So many great points. You can just set a phone on a tripod and your camera will look better than many people's webcams. For sure. One of the things that I would recommend, this isn't just a plug StreamYard, is to get at least get the free plan. Do they need any more than the free plan to be part of the community, Julie?

Julie Riley:
No. They can come to join the community even if they're just getting started into streaming. We do like everybody to have the free plan so they have an understanding, but we'll still let you in. Agree to the rules. That's the big thing. Yeah, come join the StreamYard community. It's really a "stream yard" community.

Brian Kelly:
It's a very valuable place because questions like what Christian just addressed are often asked (What do I need?). I'm just starting. I'm a newbie. I see that so much in there. What can you do to help with a camera or microphone or computer? You can go there if you have those questions and ask, and the community will fill in the blanks wonderfully well because they're a great bunch of people. Just like Tim down there who's gotten pushed to the side for a while. So, Tim, is this your first camera that you've been using for live streaming so far? Did you have one before it?

Timothy McNeely:
Yeah, right. I started with just an HD one. Right. Logitech and then jumped up to the Brio. Been happy with that so far. But, you know, it's interesting how the game keeps growing again. That's the thing, right? Just get started! Just do this. I started with just using zoom and recording those for my interviews, and then I realized (that) I need a better platform. I need a way to kind of do that live production. Now I'm doing Stream Yard and got intros. Just get started with whatever you've got and kind of build that proof of concept. You know, I recently just upgraded my lights because I bought the cheapest lights I could at first. I just wanted to do something, and done is better than not done a lot of times.

Brian Kelly:
I totally agree with everything you just said and like what Christian was saying. If you're going to put money into anything, make it the audio side of things first when you upgrade. I was fortunate. I started over nine years ago streaming live. This is a DSLR. Not a DSLR. Good grief, XLR microphone. It's old school. It's not even USB. So I plug it into a mixer board, and from there into my computer. I've used it for years. It's been just amazing. I've never had to do anything with my sound as a result. For you, there are great USB alternatives now. Oh my gosh, there are so many out there. Someone like Christian could probably point you in the right way. Someone like the StreamYard community could push you in the right way and tell you,"these are the ones". I have a connection with the guy who is a sound expert. I've never heard of this before. He has a studio that does 4D sound. I don't even know what that means. Four dementional?

Christian Karasiewicz:
Sweet.

I don't know what that means, audibly. He was telling me about speakers in the ceiling. I'm like, holy moly,. You don't need that obviously for a talk show like this, but think about the possibilities and have fun with it. The bottom line is, when you go on and go live. Enjoy yourself. I'm trying to do that a little bit with these fine people tonight. Thankfully, they're still here with me. I haven't upset them too great, especially Christian. I keep picking on him. Poor guy. I appreciate you all, and it's okay to have fun on your show. Would you guys agree with that? Is it okay to have a little bit of fun?

Julie Riley:
One hundred percent. If you're having fun, your audience is going to be having fun with you.

If you're not having fun... I don't believe in doing anything that I don't find fun. It's a life motto of mine. If I don't want to do it, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Like you said, Julie. If you're not having fun with it, then how in the world do you expect the viewers to want to have fun or engage or interact? It starts with you.

Brian Kelly:
Absolutely, absolutely. One of the things I wanted to pivot to is something I'm deeply interested in because the product that came up earlier when I did the quick ads spot. I like to solve the pain points that people are having in their live streaming experiences. I'm curious. I'll bet, Julie and Christian, you guys have seen and heard a lot about that. I actually had a team member of mine from my company put a poll up in the form of a meme, a graphic. What's the right word? I am having trouble with words these days. It's an infograph. That's it. Simple. I was a little bit shocked by the result, but I was just curious what you guys think. What are the biggest pain points you're seeing? (Either) that you're having individually. Tim, if you have that as well. Dylan as well. Dylan, you probably hear about a bunch of it as well. What are the pain points you are seeing come back over and over and over again? I'm having a horrible time trying to find another guest on my show if they're interview style, or the tech is just blowing my mind. Even though StreamYard is so simple. I'm having trouble with x, y, z. Let's just go around the horn. Dylan, if you don't mind, I put you on the spot. Can you think of any of those pain points that keep coming up over and over again?

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. The biggest thing I see is they underestimate what it does take. I totally agree. Why I promote StreamYard to our clients and everyone I possibly can is because of the ease of use. People go into it and think shows are just like setting up the webcam, and they can be. Setting up the webcam and just talking. Right? There's a lot of back end stuff to this. These shows and I'm learning that as doing my own now. I'm like, holy cow, I'm about to hire fifteen people because this is absurd. But, yeah. I think that's the biggest thing that I see is underestimating it, but also at the same time, they overcomplicate it. They have to think (that) they have to have all these bells and whistles and seventeen thousand cameras and two million dollar microphones. It goes back to our first point of "just do it". It doesn't need to be overcomplicated, but understand going into it, there is some work that takes and understand that you do have to respect what it takes to put these on. At the same time, don't overcomplicate it. It's funny how people work. They overestimate or underestimate it, but then heavily overcomplicate it at the same time. I think that's the biggest one I see.

Brian Kelly:
I'm so glad you brought that up. I've said this so many times, people don't realize what goes on behind the scenes before the show even comes on live for that episode. The amount of time and effort. If you want to do a live show that's of quality and represent yourself and your brand in a way that you want it to be represented professionally. It takes a good amount of work for every single show. That's why I automated nearly every process (that) I use now. It took time to get there, but you can use a team. You can get a team. Like you said, Dylan, to also help out. For me, it's all about quality, and more time is spent before the show by far than the show itself. After the show is over, another good deal of time is spent. That is in the minor edits, the repurposing, the marketing, and everything else that goes beyond. The live show is this tiny window of time, and it's the fun is part of it by the way. When you have everything automated, the rest is not "not fun" because you're not doing it. It's all automated, but definitely great. Thank you for that. Julie, what has been some of the big p.. sorry to wake you up there. What have been some of the big pain points? You are wide awake. I just starttled you. You've seen over and over, I bet you've seen a bunch of them.

Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh. So many, you know, especially because I'm approving all of the comments that are coming into the group. I think one of the huge ones is that the hesitation of people who believe that they have to have everything perfect. That they have to have all of the backdrops, the overlays, the banners, the super expensive microphone, and the super expensive camera. That they have it. The room behind them is messy. They haven't thought about turning to just a blank wall because they're like, "well, then I don't have a fancy studio set up." They get to this point where they're trying to create perfection, and perfection is a fairy tale. It doesn't exist. There is no such thing as perfection. There is, again, where Dylan said the overcomplicating it. They've got to really just slow down and go, "what do I need to get this process going?" What is the minimum to make it happen? From there, then I can then build on it, and build on it each week. Go, "okay, I got live. I got the first one out. I got the jitters out. I hate the way I sound." When I had my agency, I would tell my clients. They'd be like, "I can't stand the way I sound." I'm like, nobody likes the way (that) they sound. There's actually, and I say this all the time, there's a term for it that is a term for not liking the sound of your own voice. I tell people, you have to get over that fear. They're like,"I don't look good on camera, I don't know how to be on camera." The other thing I tell people is to set up a fake Facebook group with nobody else in it but you. Go live in there a bunch of times and just get those jitters out. Get that feeling of pressing the button and going live. Then invite your husband in, your sister, your mother, or whoever. Somebody so that you're talking to somebody. From there, build up each time. As we said with the cameras, again, you can you can slowly build. You can slowly add in the overlays. You can slowly add in the backgrounds.

Brian Kelly:
My goodness! I absolutely love it. I have my own Facebook group that I use just for that. Nothing more. I go in there, and I test things for StreamYard and other things in there. I go live in there because there's no substitute for going live. We've got more buttons to click, and things kind of change their arrangement just a little bit in the window. If you practiced it 20 times without going live, then you go live you're going to go, "what the heck just happened?" I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. That was perfect. Perfect advice. I love that. We've got a comment coming in or two or three. Yeah. Kelly, crucial. Kruschel. Sorry if I got that wrong.

Dylan Shinholser:
Kelly Kruschel. It's Kruschel. She said she's on my team. She's a friend. Hey, we've got a supporter.

Brian Kelly:
Love it. Love it. Then Fran Jesse, I know her. I'm getting ready to make my first video essentially input. Yeah. Reach out, Fran. We're friends. I will give you assistance in any way you want because this is the greatest this is the greatest avenue for media on the planet, in my humble opinion, for so many reasons. One is people get to see you. I love clubhouse. It's also phenomenal in different ways, but people get to see you. They get to interact with you. They can engage with you, and they get to see your essence. It doesn't cost you, the studio owner, studio time. If you do this in the old days when you have to go to a television studio and you want to do a show, it would cost you thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars just to use the studio. Let alone get the media time to put it up on a television station. We're living in wonderful times. It's the greatest time to be alive, in my humble opinion. I'm a tech geek. I'm not young anymore. I'm fifty six, but I can't wait for the rest of what my life has to hold. Yes. You're welcome, Fran. Any time. Wonderful. Wonderful. Alright. Where were we? I got all messed up and loving myself there. We're going to have fun. I'm being real. This is like... I don't know. I'm the most relaxed (that) I've been in a long time with everything that went on today. It was one of those weird, everything-going crazy days. I feel like I'm at home with you guys. That's why.

Dylan Shinholser:
It's been one of those years.

Brian Kelly:
Thank God that last one is over.

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, yeah. Sure.

Brian Kelly:
So, okay. Pain point. Let's go back around one more. Tim, what do you have?

Timothy McNeely:
Yeah. When I first started doing this, my whole goal was to get out there and to talk to the different experts in the different areas of the challenges that my my clients face. I started off as an interview show and just using Zoom to record the video. Then all of a sudden I had the video. Now I had to put an intro in. I had to put an exit in. I had to extract the audio so I could do the podcast. My team members and myself were spinning our wheels. Just trying to really kind of create a workflow around the creation of this content so we could get the message out and help people with their challenges. For me, all of a sudden, the revelation was (that) I can do this live. I can have people type in (and) ask comments as I'm doing the show. Not only that, from start to finish, I can produce the whole thing going live. Right? You go live. You can play an intro now. You can throw in little commercial breaks. You can throw in the outro, and then it's done. Download the audio. You throw it up, and now you've got your podcast. You don't have to upload video to YouTube and Facebook and LinkedIn. It's done for you now, automatically. So really my biggest pain point was just the production side of things and putting everything together so that I could keep talking to people and doing the fun part. Right? I don't want to get caught up in all the details of making this. I want to talk to people, learn, and share that knowledge. Really, a lot of the pain point, just using StreamYard has really been absolved because it's a turn-key easy to use platform.

Brian Kelly:
Amen to all of that brother. Here's the key for everyone that's ever going to do a live show or has done one. The most important part is that you show up and you be the talent. That means you need to be dedicated mentally toward what the task is at hand. If I have too many things going on, like production-wise, which I used to when I didn't automate things. That's in the back of my mind. Did I dot every "i"? Did I cross every "t"? What's going to screw up on this show? Versus showing up fully for my guest. Being there for them. Getting out of myself and my own business and being present for the other person, that's what I'm about. Lifting up the other people, that's what my show's about. It's important to me.

Timothy McNeely:
Actually, if I can touch on that talent piece, Brian? I think he brought something up so important for everyone listening to this. If you're doing any kind of a show where you're interviewing people, chances are (that) the person you're talking to (is) a little bit uncomfortable. Your job, as the talent, is to spend some time before the show really crafting what it's going to look like. What direction are you going to go in? You want to make that person you're talking to look like a star. The more you can rehearse with them and put them at ease, you're going to end up with a much, much better show. Because you've taken a little bit of time to make sure that (the) other person is going to shine just as bright as you do. So, take that time to work with your guests beforehand through interview guides, through little questionnaires. So that you can help prep them, to keep them on a thread, and you can really help them deliver their message. Most people are not trained professional speakers. They just aren't. I've hired some of the best speaking coaches to help me develop messages, stay on topic, and learn how to tell stories. People don't invest time, energy, and effort to do that. You can help them do that through a briefing before you start your live with them.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. That's why I was saying before, I do a thirty-minute preshow. All of us were on here for 30 minutes getting to know each other, making sure all the tech was good, doing some checkout. You were talking about people being nervous and stuff. That's why I'm riding Christian so hard with all these jokes and stuff because it broke his nervousness. You can see his sweating. I am so kidding. This guy's raw. He's a rock. He's awesome. He's a pro. I love this guy, man. I always pick on the quiet ones. I don't know why that is. Christian, man, you're bringing massive value. All kidding aside, you're very experienced. You're matched for what you do. You've said already so many amazing things. What about you, brother?

Christian Karasiewicz:
I'd say this. I think a couple of the pain points. I think one is people want to ask, "how do I get better at my live stream?" I think (that) the first thing is practice. To Julie's point, I think you mentioned having overlays, backgrounds, and all this other stuff. Look at it like this. You want to show your audience as well while you're helping them. You're doing this with them. You have everything at the same time, and you're trying to make everything perfect. Your audience is going to be like, "I'm not going to stick around this person because they've done such a good job already. I won't ever get to that point". They start having that self-doubt. The key thing is going to be practice. You don't have to have every single one of the overlays. Maybe start with the the intro or the thumbnail, and maybe you have an outro for example. (Those are) the first two things you do. As you build the show, then you can add segment graphics. You can add videos. So, you can scale it, but you don't have to have so much at one time because then it's just too overwhelming. That's point number one. Pain point number two is that people, for some reason, think that they're going to immediately be able to monetize their live stream. I say pain point because everybody's like, "oh, I bought all that equipment." Now, you've got to figure out how to pay for all that equipment, you know? If you're struggling already with your business and growing it, then you're not going to immediately monetize live stream. You have to have an audience. You know, you have to build that community. When you go live, they're tuning in because (of) the social platforms. They want to see that you're bringing viewers, they want to see engagement. So, point number two is monetizing your live stream. There are ways to do that, but don't always set out with monetization being number one. It could take a couple of years to monetize. So, get started. Build on it, then make those investments as your business is growing. Yes, mic drop. Yes.

Dylan Shinholser:
Do you have that mic? Just a mic drop? Because I might need to get one.

Brian Kelly:
It's actually super.

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, super real.

Christian Karasiewicz:
That's pretty cool, actually.

Julie Riley:
I like that.

Brian Kelly:
It's actually part of a magic trick that you put in a paper bag. It's a long story, but I found one more affordable that would not break my keyboard because that's what it landed on. You didn't hear it. Oh, my gosh. Golden nuggets there, as usual, from Christian who I give a lot of hard time to. I'm going to stop because you're amazing dude, and I don't want to get mad at me. I want you to be my friend. So many great things. So, you said two years. I was like, wow. I was watching an interview. How many of you have heard of Lewis Howes? Former professional football player and turned incredible entrepreneur. He's all over the place. He was being interviewed, and the guy interviewing him asked him a question. He said, "so, Lewis, if someone came to you, and they were talking about the fact they wanted to start a podcast. Now, we're talking just the audio version. That's what a podcast really is for everyone that may not know it's audio-only. Not video, even though they're going that way." He said, "well, here's what I'd tell them. First, you got to actually be consistent. Whenever you decide to do it, do it at that same day and that same time every week or multiple times a week. Whatever that happens to be. Number two, more importantly. You must commit yourself to doing that for at least, the magic number, two years. If they are not willing to do that, I would tell them, don't even get started." We didn't talk about monetization. None of that was discussed during this Q&A. That was telling. Who was I talking about this earlier with earlier today? It's not necessarily about monetizing. It's about building your platform, and I wanted to add to that. It took me in two years. I was just hitting that moment in time of my live show. That's when the momentum started. He was spot on, and so are you, Christian, about the two years. Then using a certain strategy (that) I use, I continually ask for referrals in a certain way. I eventually landed the one and only Les Brown. Some of you know who that is. Some of you don't. I've noticed some don't and Im like,"what rock are you living under?" He's amazing, and he's been on my show. Because of that, the two-year commitment is my point. Not talking about monetization. Then what I found after doing this for two years and striving for excellence all the time in every facet, I'm talking about the preshow communication with upcoming guests and the setup and the prep that they all go through and my system makes sure they do. The show itself and then after the show, all the post-production, everything that goes into it. Once you have that, people notice and my show, without my intending it to be, became an incredible, powerful lead magnet for my business. Focus, just as Christian was stating so properly, does definitely, positively impact your business. If you do it right. You do it high quality, and again, within reason within the resources you have. Go ahead, Christian.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I was going to say. That's another point that people look at, and they want to generate revenue off of it. That revenue may not be actual money upfront. It may end up being (help) (to) drive more leads to my website. It's not necessarily driving more people to my social channels. You're following is... It's OK. That's not going to necessarily grow your business because you had five more followers on Instagram or something like that. It's potentially getting them back to your website, which can be an opportunity for them to schedule a coaching call with you, maybe buy a product from you, learn from you for example. You're not going to get every single person to become a customer, but you're going to be able to use it to generate more leads.

Brian Kelly:
Totally, totally true.

Dylan Shinholser:
That's why I do it.

Brian Kelly:
You see on the top of this screen "streaming live on" and then five. We're doing it to eight right now or seven right now. "Listen-on" down below. On the bottom, there's actually twenty five of those like us could fit them all. Roku now was on Fire TV. Look, you're not making money from those, but here's what happened. How many of you have heard of Kevin Harrington? Shark Tank? Original Shark Tank? He has a partner named, "Seth Green", and they do a podcast together. They've been doing it for years now. They have five-hundred plus episodes. We got introduced, Seth and I. I met Kevin. We shared the stage once. I'm not name-dropping, but yes, I am. It was awesome, and it was fun. Seth reached out. We were connected by someone else. We were introduced, and Seth did his own homework. He came back, we literally talked on Zoom, and he says, "wow, I did some research. I looked you up and, my God, you're everywhere." I just wanted to say, "yeah, that's right." So, you want to get out there. That's why, shameless plug, I call it, "carpet bomb marketing". You saturate with everything you've got within reason. Right? If you can automate it, it can be near or completely free. So just do it. Why not add it to your arsenal? So, it works. Just be consistent to a minimum of two years. Get in touch with people like Julie, Christian, Tim, and Dylan. You might make that even quicker than two years. I'll direct you to the shortcuts that many of us did by trial and error.

Timothy McNeely:
Touching on the monetization piece, a good friend of mine runs one of the top coaching consultancies out there. Right. Very, very successful. Runs a great podcast, great show. I ask him one day. I said, "have you need any money doing your podcast?" He thought for a second. He says, "naw, I've actually lost money doing it. The relationships that I've made...I've made millions off (of) that." If you approach it from that standpoint... There's different goals, but I always approach, you know, what's the end result? What are you looking for out of your show? Why are you doing it? That's how you can measure the success of it. Is it helping you achieve whatever goals you set for yourself?

Brian Kelly:
Totally agree. It's very similar. Isn't it? To writing a book? I'm holding up another namedrop. Yes, it's very similar to writing your own book. Because a lot of people want to write a book and make a living off of the sales of the book. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, most of the time it just doesn't happen that way. If anyone comes up to you and you're talking to them... During the course of conversation, maybe you ask them what they've been up to? Or, hey, I've authored a book. The moment they say that, in your eyes, do they not lift up in an influence in your mind? Right then and there? Instantly. It builds authority. That's exactly what this live show, and live shows like it, are doing. When you're giving evidence of it by spitting it out to all of these platforms, there's no way people can't find you and know that you're serious. You know, it's showing that you have a commitment level. It's showing that you have a quality level of professionalism. It's not about the show itself. It's like, well, if I do business with that person, or will I... Will I want to do business that person? If they're professional. Yes. If they put on a shoddy show, they might give me shoddy service. If I do business with them. Does that make sense? People want to (be) representing yourself in the best. Do it the best you can, but do it. Please, don't delay. Don't try to be perfect. You heard everybody talk. Go ahead, Dylan. You had something?

Dylan Shinholser:
Well, yeah. There's indirect ways to make money with shows, live streams, and of course direct (ways). Right. Direct is selling sponsorships, ad-space, all that good stuff. The indirect monetization is so much more powerful. When I do shows or when I hop on shows or anything, it's literally just to build a top-down awareness of myself. I just want people to know what Dylan Shinholser is. Then that way, because I do multiple things, I'm never trying to sell one product at any given time. I'm trying to sell myself, and what it does is it gives me that outlet to do it. Then if you're hosting a show. Right? This maybe goes into some other topics around how to market and things like that. It's a powerful relationship tool because when you can open your platform to other people that you're looking to connect with. I'm in the business of working with influencers and throwing their events. Well, the best way to connect was get them on my show. It gave me a reason to reach out that wasn't pitchy or sales. It was more or less. Hey, man, I just want to give you an outlet, because I think what you talk about is cool. Tell my people about it. After the show, I was like, "hey, man, what are you doing next Tuesday? I need a speaker." Or "hey, man. I have some ideas (that) I want to pitch you or (some) things. They're more receptive. So, I always do shows and things not about the direct money I get, but the indirect thing. It's the indirect impact that I get from relationships, or people sharing my stuff out and people go, oh man, he sounds semi-intelligent unless they're watching this. Then then they'll go, okay, great. Let me go over to this platform that he runs with this business that he does or whatever because he sounded halfway intelligent on that show. Right? So, I think the indirect monetization is what most people don't... They don't get that the instant gratification of like that five thousand dollars sponsorship check. When I forgo that and go on to bring on much more money on the backend with the people I connect with, in the top influence that I get.

Brian Kelly:
The magic word there was "relationship".

Dylan Shinholser:
Relationships all day, every day. That's all I do- is build relationships, and how can I do it? Do more shows like this. Can I get it out? You're on like forty-two different podcast or outlets here, right? Every one of those. Every time you put a show on it, you're building a relationship with someone on that platform. Even if it's just you talking, and they're listening. You're building that relationship. Everything (that) I do, is built on: how can I develop relationships? Live streams is just an amazing way to do so.

Brian Kelly:
Posting them is one thing. Right? That's a great thing. What I learned through a podcasting expert friend of mine is the maybe not as equally important, but possibly greater importance, is getting on other people's shows. That includes audio podcasts only. He explained how his business skyrocketed when he did what he called, "podcast guest marathons". He would have someone get him booked in his team. He would carve out three days and just say get as many as you can for me. He'd do that. Then when they ask him about how to get in contact with him... This is the gold right here... It's not go to my Facebook page and look up my name and message me. He would tell them to go to his podcast website and from there to subscribe. Now he's building a following. It's genius. It's so genius. I just want to impart that. The cool thing, though, is when you're hosting a high-quality live show that opens the door for you to be a guest on many more.

Dylan Shinholser:
Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Being a guest is what goes back to the authority building. Right? If I can build my authority, I build my influence. If I do have something to sell... If I'm trying to build my brand or whatever it is or I'm just trying to get to as many people as possible to talk about events with them... That authority I call it, "authority hacking", being able to get them on your show. That'll get your show in front of their audience, and then going on to other shows helps you develop your authority. It's like writing a book. I was I'm a guest on this show, this show, this show. It's like writing a book. Your authority starts to become a little bit more when you're leveraging their influence. Right? When you're a guest on the show, if that show has a following, you becoming a guest on that show gives you authority because now you have the validation of the host that everyone is following and love. So, I can authority hack by getting on other people's shows.

Brian Kelly:
It leverges. You have a whole new tribe watching and interacting with you as well. I mean, this is one of the most powerful things people can use. If they just get out of that rut of trying to find a way to make money with it directly, that's when they'll see the real value come through. It's about building relationships. It's long-term. Not short, quick kill. I got to make a commission and run. It's build a relationship. Establish it. If you go into this with the mindset of it not being for directly making money, I personally think you have greater success. The long-term plays always work better than the short-term. Short-term works can work, but they're temporary. The long-term is a lot more permanent and lasting. Just think of all the wonderful bread crumbs you're leaving throughout the world. Through all the venues and platforms we've been talking about. In speaking terms, if you're on stage, that's what we call a "stage swap". Where you would be a guest on someone else's stage in return for them saying, "okay, but I'm going to do the opposite." We'll have you on our as well. The same thing with podcasts and live video. It works really great. Just make sure they're a fit.

Dylan Shinholser:
They've got to fit. (It's) got to makes sense.

Brian Kelly:
Both ways. Yeah.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I want to add something real quick to that. If you are consistently going live, so it's great to be consistent, go live on a regular basis, but also think about the long game. It's a couple of years, for example. Also, don't be afraid to be making changes and adjustments as things are moving along. It's not about substituting equipment. It's about looking at your process. For example, you mentioned Brian, that you have automation on some of the things. Think of smarter ways to take bigger jumps ahead. If I have to send someone an email, and I'm like, "hey, do you want to be on my show?" Then I have to deal with the whole back and forth. Well, okay. Yeah. What time? Then I have to send everything back. There are tools out there like Calendly, Harmonizely. You can send a calendar link to somebody and they can only book a certain slot for example and vice versa. This takes out the guesswork out of having to do all that back and forth. That's a way to work smarter because now you want to book people for your show. You send them one link. The person then doesn't have to send you a message back, and you can even use it to collect feedback for your show questions. There's not a lot of back-and-forth and downtime.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, absolutely. I do that as well, and it's a godsend. I could not do what I'm doing. I would not do what I'm doing without the automation part of it. I have an onboarding form. You guys all... Most, not all of you went through it, but that was a mini version. Julie, you went through the big version. I then changed it right after I saw that. Like you said, make adjustments. That's what I did. I'm constantly doing that. Improving. I have a document automatically generated in Google Docs with your bio. The answer you had to why you think you would bring value to the show. Also, all the questions you chose to be asked for the show. Some of you didn't see that. So everything's done. The Q&A part used to take hours and hours doing manually. Now I just give them thirty-eight questions. Choose ten, and we're good. You tick the box. You choose what I'm going to ask you. (I) just made it a system, and it has worked beautifully. I don't even use the ten questions hardly. I use maybe the first three. Then we go organically like we've been doing tonight. My God, it's six twenty-nine! Are you kidding me? I'm having too much fun. Real quick. I know everyone that came on in the beginning. You heard this thing about a prize. We're going to do that real quick, and we'll come back and wrap it up. For those of you watching, remember in the beginning I said, "take notes and don't go clicking away and stuff like that"? Now I think Dylan, Julie, Tim, and Christian will also give you permission to do what I'm saying, and that is take out your phone. Take your gaze away from us for just a moment, but you'll still have to look back. Yes, yes. You can do this too. Please, do. What I want you to do....

Dylan Shinholser:
I need a vacation.

This is how you can enter to win a five-night stay at a five-star luxury resort of your choosing. Here's what you do. Take out your message app on your phone. Fire that up- your text message app. Where you would type in the name of the person normally that you're going to text. Instead, put in this number: three, one, four, six, six five-they're all doing it behind the scenes- one, seven, six, seven. I love this. Three, one, four, six, six, five, one, seven, six, seven. If you're watching this and you're not a guest, go ahead and write this down because I gonna take the screen down. I want you to get it. This will be open until the end of the evening. Where you actually put in the message... Where you might put emojis, those kinds of things, not emojis, just two words separated by a dash or a hyphen. Those words are peak (P-E-A-K) dash Vacation (V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N). All together. No spaces. Peak vacation. Send it off, then monitor your phone. You're going to get an automated response back asking you for your email address, and that will then officially enter you into the contest. Compliments of The Big Insider Secrets. Our buddies, Jason Nash, the owner. Dear friend of mine who lets us give this away every single week. Every show, actually. We do more than one a week now on average. So go ahead, get that entered. I can't wait to see who's going to win that. You're going to be asked later, you don't have to if you're the winner, to provide your Facebook information. Just your profile so we can say congrats and give you a high-five online and get others to come watch the show. To be honest, that's another strategy. We're just rolling back the curtain. That's why we do it this way. You can offer incentives like that. My friend has offered that to anyone who is my friend. If you're not my friend, you don't get it. If you're on as part of the panel here, they're all my friends. Christian may differ on that opinion, but I think he's my friend.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm your friend. Yes.

Brian Kelly:
Ok, good. I picked on you so hard. I apologize, but you're just you're a fun guy. I appreciate you for putting up with it. I definitely do stuff like that. Implement it and announce it in the beginning. That helps retention. I'm just pulling back the curtain for everybody. You can do different things like that. Having multiple people, I noticed, is also a little better than just one every single time. So, mix it up now and then. Alright. I know we're a little bit over, but I want to give you each another chance for a final parting tip. Anything you want on live streaming. It could be hardware, software, how you smile, what bling you wear, don't wear, your makeup. I'm wearing some, by the way, just so the guys know. Yeah, I don't know what they call it. It's not like guy up.. guy-liner, but it's like makeup. I know. That was bad.

Dylan Shinholser:
I haven't heard of that one.

Brian Kelly:
I just did that. I'm not a young fart anymore. Anyway. So, Dylan, we'll do the same thing. Go around the horn. What would be one final quick tip, or parting words of advice, you can give our wonderful viewing and listening audience?

Dylan Shinholser:
Keep it simple stupid. Don't overcomplicate it. There's things that you need to do and standards you need to meet. At the end of the day, keep it simple stupid will allow you to not overcomplicated it (and) get overwhelmed. Once you get overwhelmed, it's a wash. I would just say as a life advice, event advice, live stream advice, just keep it simple stupid and keep it moving.

Brian Kelly:
Real quick, I got to interject on that. Just so people know that that comes from an acronym K.I.S.S. So we're not calling everybody stupid, for one.

Dylan Shinholser:
Well...

Brian Kelly:
That was great. I have a friend who is Sicilian in nature, and he did this from the stage. He talked about it, and he brought up the whole thing. We're talking about doing it without complicating it. He goes, "It's like K.I.S.S. Who knows what K.I.S.S means?" Someone raised their hands. They said, "keep it simple, stupid". He goes,"Oh, no, no. It's keep it simple Sicilian." He lighten the load of the stupid part. I thought that was cool. Sorry, Julie, what is your parting tip?

Julie Riley:
You know, you're going to have to get started at some point. In order to do that, you're going to have to get over your fear. Go practice. Get those done, but also go watch and find other people that you resonate with their live shows. Start to take pieces from each of those. Now, obviously, you cannot go copy their live show and recreate it. You can pull little things from multiple different people's live shows that you like and that resonate with you. If you're comfortable and things are resonating with you, you're going to exude that comfort and that confidence out to the rest of the world.

Brian Kelly:
I love it. I love it. Alright. The man, the myth, the legend, Timothy J. McNeely. What is your final parting word of advice?

Timothy McNeely:
I'm going to close with a story. The purpose of this story is to illustrate the power of doing a show. July 20th, 1969, the first man walked on the moon. He left his footprints up there. On the moon, there's no wind. There's no rain. There's no weather, and those footprints today in twenty twenty-one look exactly like they did in nineteen sixty-nine. They're going to be exactly the same a million years from now. You too. You leave footprints on the hearts and the minds of everyone that you come in contact with. In streaming and having a platform, that's your opportunity to leave your footprints and to have an impact on people. Get clear about what your message is. What's the impact you want to have? If you do that, all of the other puzzle pieces are going to fall in place for you.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, baby. Okay, I've got to do it. I've got to do it. That was amazing.

Dylan Shinholser:
You have to get one of the little lower third animation gifts that are possible here on StreamYard. It's just a mic drop every time someone does one.

Brian Kelly:
Not nearly as much fun though, bro.

Christian Karasiewicz:
That's true. Fair. Very fair. I'll give it to you. I've got to get me one of those little squishy microphones.

Brian Kelly:
A little sound effect like I just broke my desk or something. That would be good. Alright, Christian, you've had a long time to think about it now. No pressure, but this better be a good one. I'm kidding. What do you have?

Christian Karasiewicz:
Let's see. The best piece of advice, I think, would be don't have gas or gear acquisition syndrome. You're going to watch people doing their live streams, and they're going to go and be like, "hey, I got to get that mic because this person upgraded." Oh, they got a new webcam. Remember? If you develop a plan, the whole thing is work the plan.. work the system. It's great (that) somebody else got some equipment, but it doesn't mean that you need to go out and get that yourself as well. Remember, work your plan. When you get to the certain points, maybe set that as a milestone. If I get to a certain number of viewers, for example, or a certain number of subscribers on a channel, then I might need to upgrade something. Don't be buying stuff just because someone else is doing so.

Brian Kelly:
Sales drive service. I love it. You guys are amazing. Thank you so much for coming on. Everyone who watched live. Thank you for coming on. Those of you that watched on the recording. Thank you for spending your valuable time with us, and those listening on the podcast. The same goes for you. Definitely. I hope you took a lot of notes because these are experts in the field. They are giving their value, their heart, their experience. They only charged me two-hundred thousand dollars for it. It's really been a deal. I'm kidding. They charged me nothing. You got incredible value from these amazing, amazing professionals. I can't thank you all enough. I appreciate you Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. Thank you from the bottom of my heart with all seriousness. I know we had some fun tonight. Thank you, Christian, so much for letting me pick on you so hard. You've been a great guy. I look forward to getting to know each and every one of you at a deeper level. If you're open to that after tonight. Appreciate you all. On behalf of these amazing people, that's it. We're out. My name is Brian Kelly. I'm the host of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Until next time we will see you. Be blessed. So long for now.

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