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Brian Kelly:
So here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us, who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back, who are dedicated, determined, and driven, how do we finally break through and win? That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly and this is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show.
Brian Kelly:
Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. We have a stellar, stellar, stellar show lined up for you tonight. And it's not because of me, it's because of this wonderful person who's coming on as my guest expert tonight. Her name is Brigitta Hoerfele and she is a master at mindset. And it's one of my favorite topics in, or on the planet, because, for me personally, about eight years ago, the very science that Brigitta is expert in is the very science that literally changed my life for the better going forward. And so I cannot wait to share her with you very, very soon. The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, it's a show by entrepreneurs for entrepreneurs, and I bring on only the best of the best, the most qualified, the most successful. You get the picture so that you can simply sit back, take notes, listen and learn and then take action. All you need to do is model their success. There's no need to reinvent the wheel. There's no need to go out and do it yourself, as I and so many before me and possibly after me have done and will do, because that's just a waste of time. It's getting out of your ego's way so that you can achieve more, faster, and better. And Brigitta is going to give us some incredible roadmap tips. She's going to give us a bunch of tips tonight. Get your notebooks out. I hope you downloaded the material that is in the description of this very show, if you're watching this on video, I'll bring it up on the screen as we go through and get ready to take notes. This is going to be phenomenal show. And with that, I'm going to jump right into it. We're going to bring her on right now. Here we go.
Narrator:
It's time for the guest expert spotlight, savvy, skillful, professional, adept, trained, big league, qualified.
Brian Kelly:
And there she is, ladies and gentlemen, the one the only Brigitta Hoerfele.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Hey Brian, hey everyone. Thanks for having me. This is fun. It's been a while.
Brian Kelly:
It's been way too long, we were just talking about this right before the show. It's been, it's been around three years since I had you on the show originally, and it did seem like yesterday. I've had, you've been on the show, your your husband, Christian, and your wonderful daughter Amelie were all on the show at different times. And it, yeah, it's been far too long to bring you back to share your brilliance with everyone, because what you what you know, your experience and your expertise is a gift to the world. Because I was a receiver of that gift of NLP and it has literally changed my life. I mean, for the better. And I've never said that literally about anything in my life before, and I haven't since. It's phenomenal. I can't wait to dig in. Before we do. Real quick, everyone who is watching live. Stay with us to the end and you can enter to win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. And that's all compliments of our pals at thebiginsidersecrets.com. It's over Brigitta's left shoulder, there you see it on the video, thebiginsidersecrets.com, the other left. And that is my buddy Jason Nast, who runs that company. They allow us to give away a vacation stay every single show. It's amazing. So I appreciate them. And then, yes, there's also this. If you're struggling with putting a live show together and it's overwhelming and you want a lot of the processes done for you, while still enabling you to put on a high quality show, and connect with great people like Brigitta, and grow your business all at the same time, then head on over to carpetbombmarketing.com. Carpet Bomb Marketing: Saturate the marketplace with your message. And one of the key components that is contained in the Carpet Bomb Marketing course is, this is one that you'll learn how to absolutely master. Is the very service we use to stream our live shows right here on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Now, over the course of the past nine plus years, we have tried many of these, quote unquote, TV studio solutions for live streaming, what we're doing right now. And I'll tell you that StreamYard is the best of the best. It combines supreme ease of use along with unmatched functionality. So start streaming high quality, professional looking live shows for free with StreamYard, now. Not this moment, take notes instead. Go ahead and write this down. Visit this website, ryp.im/streamlive. That's ryp.im/streamlive. Do that after the show is over. Write that down. Stick with us because we're bringing back the woman of the hour right here, Brigitta Hoerfele. She is an amazing, amazing young woman. She is a heart-centered, amazing family woman, and she loves, loves to have fun. Just watching her, even on Facebook, but I've gotten the wonderful pleasure of meeting her in person during an event in Las Vegas not too long ago. Gosh, it probably is a long time ago now. Along with Christian and you guys, what a power couple. You guys just impressed me beyond impressed and and your daughter Amelie, who I got to meet online through the show. And I have not yet met your youngest, but I can only imagine. What a power family. And the intelligence factor of everyone involved in this family is through the roof. I just want everybody to know that this, and dedication, devotion, action-taking, everything that you could possibly conceive that would make up a successful entrepreneur is embodied right here, right here, right next to me in the name of Brigitta Hoerfele. She is an amazing young woman. I'm not going to read her bio because I think that doesn't do her justice based on what I know about her. Because she is an amazing woman, and I think that she should be shared with the entire world and everyone should connect with her because of the knowledge she brings and what she can do for you. And it's it's a game changer. So, Brigitta, I just want to say thank you once again for coming on so many years later, and welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Brian. Thank you. Thank you for having me. And what a great introduction. Holy cow. I will put you in my pocket and take you with me when when I need to be introduced.
Brian Kelly:
I'll emcee any time. Oh yeah. That'd be an honor, that'd be an honor. Absolutely
Brigitta Hoerfele:
And I'm really, I'm really looking forward to the times when we can go back in person and have in-person events and classes and courses and be together. I'm yearning for that. I'm yearning for that.
Brian Kelly:
No substitute for in-person. Oh my gosh. And I just, I so enjoy being on stage with such wonderful people in the crowd. Isn't it so interesting how no matter how many people are in the crowd, you can tell what every single one of them is doing when you're on stage? You can.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
When you have those when you have those kind of lenses, that is.
Brian Kelly:
That's right. Yeah, we might be talking about that in just a moment here. Speaking of that, yes, we want to make this, this is going to be a slightly different format. It's going to be really, really immersive and educational, informative. And it's going to be even more so if you take action and follow along. And with that, I want to pull up a resource. Now, this is something that if you do not have this in your possession right now to go and get it right now, quickly. Open up a new tab, keep listening because you want to miss a word of Brigitta. And that's ryp.im/SuccessLaws and the 's' and the 'l' are capital. In fact, I wonder if I have it. I'll put it in the comments here in a while. I don't have it on me this moment. I thought I did, Brigitta, I was getting so ready for all this. It's it's phenomenal, ryp, nope, I don't. If someone could type that in into the comments that would be phenomenal. ryp.im/SuccessLaws. And, that is where you go to get your, what do we want to call it, our worksheet. Your success laws template.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Checklist. Checklist.
Brian Kelly:
That's it. It even says that in the document. But Brian didn't look at it that close. I saw the whole thing, but I didn't look at the top. It's OK to have some fun along the way. But what I wanted to do is basically make this a pseudo mini master class for everyone watching and listening. If you're listening on podcast after the fact, be sure to head on over to ryp.im/SuccessLaws. And right now, as we're doing this live, that is a free resource. Now, you may not get to it until it's no longer free. I think it's it's a very nominal fee. What is it, nine dollars Brigitta?
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Yeah, nine dollars.
Brian Kelly:
And so it's worth far more than that when you combine that with listening to her or watching her after the fact. So either way, go get it now and it's free. Wait later, it's nine bucks. Your choice. All right, I'll keep that rolling for a little while. So, Brigitta, I wanted to kind of let you walk us through and introduce this amazing resource that you have made available to everybody. This success laws checklist. Open it up however you want. Introduce NLP, whatever you have in mind to help our folks understand what this amazing science is all about. Take it away.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Awesome, all right. Well, how long do we have? Because I can go on forever and ever. And thank you for allowing me to have fun, because if it's not fun, you guys, I'm not doing it. So it might as well be fun. OK, so you definitely want to have something to write with and something to write on because we're going to go through some great, great, great stuff. And they're called the success laws. Now, Brian and Brian, you come back any time and you go, OK, Brigitta when I'm in a state of flow and we can talk about state of flow later as well. I'm I'm just continuing to go and I forget time. I forget I need to go to the bathroom. I forget I'm hungry. I forget all of those things because that's what's happening when you're in a state of flow. And and most of you have probably experienced that at some point. So, Brian, feel free to interfere at any time. I want to give a little bit of prerequisites to the success laws because, you know, people use the word success often and frequently and maybe even misuse it. So I want to go into what are success laws and how how are they rooted in NLP and what the heck is NLP? Right? So let me start with NLP. NLP stands for neuro linguistic programing. Now, let's take that apart even further. Let's chunk that down even further. Neuro, this is your operating system that lies in here aka your brain. So your thoughts, how you're processing things, neuro, your mind. Linguistic is your communication. Your communication outward with your words or your body language, because quite frankly, and this is one of the success laws. One cannot not communicate. You watch my face sometime, it needs shutting up, just totally separate, right? Some of you can relate. So your communications outward with your words, your tonality, your body language and also your communication inward. Because when you speak, even when it's not spoken out loud, you're still communicating and you're having a whole, full-blown conversation with yourself. I'm pretty sure some of you can relate to that as well. I know I can. So linguistics is the communication and then the programing part is the behavior that we are programing. If we want to, if we're, if it's obvious to us or if we're aware of it or not, we're still programing ourselves with the thoughts that we're having and the mind chatter that we're having with ourselves and the things that we tell ourselves and the things that we tell other people. So we're programing ourselves and we're programing the behavior of others of how they're interacting with us. So neuro, brain linguistic, communication, programing behavior. So at any given moment, you are in charge of your own behavior. I know, you are in charge. No one else is. And, you are also in charge of how other people are communicating with you. OK, so let's let's take that, let's unpack that even further. And that's why I have these success laws. So success laws are rooted in neuro linguistic programing. And a lot of people might say, you know, I don't know what NLP is, but I know I want to be successful. I don't know if I need NLP and I don't even know if I need to be NLP. Well, that's not even the question. Most charismatic, I'm going to say the majority of charismatic people have studied NLP in some sort or fashion. Now, some of them may use it in a very in a great way of integrity and some may use it for their own good, without looking at the other people's good. So where I'm coming from as an NLP grandmaster and been in NLP for over, almost two decades. Coming from a place of integrity and coming from a place of win, win, win. Win for you, as we're having a conversation, win for me as we're having a conversation or closing a deal or whatever it might be that we're doing together, and a win for the greater good. So how is it serving you? How is it serving me and how is it serving the people that we communicate with, that we're interacting with, that we're networking with. If it's not a three-way win, I want to have no part of it. And a lot of people and that's, I think where some of the communications methodologies might have gotten a bad rep is that they're all about ego. There's only one win. And that win is, who, themselves. I don't want any part of that. And I do not teach people when I just have the slightest feeling or when I see or hear that they're going in that direction, that it's all ego, that they just want to shove some service or product down someone else's throat, just for the sake of the sale, for the sake of the money. I want no part of it. So I want to I want to encourage you to start looking for that that that win times three that win, win, win. All right, let's go into the success checklist. The success laws checklist. The first law is increase choice and flexibility. What does that mean? And I think Brian said earlier that if you so choose to. At any given moment, you have a choice in what you are doing. You have a choice. You have a choice to be here listening to us and learning and taking notes. You also you could also be sitting in front of the TV and being programed. There is a reason why it's called TV programing, because it's programing you with all of its advertisement, with all of its opinions, with all of the stuff that's going on. You're being programed if you like it or not, and you and and you're being hypnotized. You might realize it, you might not realize it. And therefore, you're taking information in and it just goes right into your subconscious mind. So you have a choice in any given moment. So NLP is also, these success laws are also about increasing flexibility. What does that exactly mean? The person and here's the Law of Requisite Variety. It's a mouthful for this German girl, the Law of Requisite Variety. I'm glad I can say it's somewhat. The person with the most flexibility controls the system. Now, some people hear the word control and make it mean manipulation. That is not what that means. That means that if you go to France and you want to have a cafe au lait and a croissant. You, it would be great if you would do them a service and be most flexible and order that cafe au lait and croissant in the in the in the language that's spoken in France, in Paris, and that's French. So when you go and speak to your client, to the person that you want to build a relationship with and you're able to build rapport with them and meet them where they're at, not where you're at, and come from a place of, "but they've got to understand me. They've got to play, they've got to play to my game". No, that is not what flexibility is. That's what entitlement is, but that's not what flexibility is. When you're flexible enough to speak their coded language back, that's when you A, build rapport, and B, you're picking them up and see you're more flexible. The person with the most flexibility controls the system. Therefore, the person with the best quality questions gets the best quality results. For yourself, and for your, and for the greater good, and for your client. So with the flexibility, I will hold up, I call it the V8 engine of communication. So you can be most flexible in defining and deconstructing what someone's representational system is. So they're either what do we have here? You might be able to see it, you might not be able to see it. Nah, it's hard to see. They might be auditory digital right? So they use words like think, and know, and consider, and experience, and understand. That's that's a clue. You want to start listening for that. Or they might be very kinesthetic and they might use words like feel, and touch, and grasp. They might be very visual and use words like see, or look, or imagined, or appear, or clear. Or they might be auditory and they use words like hear, or sound, or resonate, or tell, or loud. So that is one part of the V8 engine, communication engine. And then you want to also start paying attention to what is a person's personality type. So are they more? Are they more of a planner? Are they more of a knowledge person? Do they have to logically grasp something? Are they more of an action taker and like the best things of all? Or are they more of a caring person and they're the nurturers? We are all four codes. We make use of all four codes. We make use of all four rep systems, but we're dominant in one of each. So if you're dominant, say, in nurturing and you're dominant in the kinesthetic rep system, that's great. That is your dominant language word catalog. But if you're not fluent in the others, you're leaving out over seventy five percent. You're leaving out a whole lot of language, a whole lot of information to then actually have a real conversation with the other person that you are talking to. So you not having the flexibility, if you can flex between all of these rep systems and all of the personality types. If you cannot flex between them, you don't have flexibility. That's that simple.
Brian Kelly:
And if I could interject real quick for those out there, I mean, think about this. If you're not mastering all of the different modes that people think in, and talk in, and speaking to to kind of chunk it up there a little bit, then you're missing out on the potential of really building a solid rapport with up to 75 percent of the population of people that you talk to. So put that in perspective. If you're speaking from stage, if you're doing webinars, if you're if you're talking to any one individual you've never met before and you don't know yet, instantly, as Brigitta would show you how to do, what their communication styles are. Then you can still ad lib and be flexible and cover all four very quickly, very masterfully and build rapport instantly and have a much more connected conversation. Just wanted to throw that in there.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Yeah. Thank you for that. So once, you know, once you have fine tune your ear. Because listening is much harder than just shutting up. But once you fine tune your ear, you can start paying attention to how does that person process information internally? More kinesthetically, more auditorily, more visually or more auditory digitally in their head? So are they listening more? Are they seeing it better? Are they are they do they need to feel it or create a feeling around it? Or are they processing it within their brain? I'll tell you a really cool story. Do I have time to tell a story Brian?
Brian Kelly:
Please tell stories.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
So one of my clients a few years ago came to us. Well, it was this wife and she says, "you know, my husband doesn't do this and that". Well, turns out nothing's what her husband did, it's how she perceived it. But that's a whole nother story within the story. But we started training both the husband and the wife together, and they have several businesses. They're like multiple multimillionaires and have created this absolute great empire with their businesses. And the the business owner and the husband says at one of our coaching sessions and trainings, "I'm about to kill my CPA. I'm about to kill this guy that's doing all of our books because he just doesn't get it. And I don't know why I'm paying him all of this money. He simply does not get what I'm telling him". So I'm listening to him. And I said, "tell me more". And he says, "every morning, when I drive to my office and I drive my Tesla. Well, actually, the Tesla drives itself". And I'm, at that point, I'm terrified, right? But that's not the story. "I drive, and I have a call with my my accountant, and I tell him exactly what I need for the day and how I need it in the spreadsheets and where what goes. And I never get what I need. It's like he just doesn't he doesn't get it". And I said, "tell me more about your accountant. Tell me more about the CPA guy". And he tells me more and more about him of how he conducts business. Clearly, he's a, the CPA dude, is is a very wise and knowledgeable man. And I said to my client, I said, "sounds like that you might want to not have the conversation with your CPA person in the car. Maybe you want to jump on a Skype call or a Zoom", back then it was Skype. I don't think we had Zoom at the time. "A Skype call." And, I'm really dating myself now. "And and have and show him the spreadsheets of what you want where, and how you want it done from here on forward, instead of telling him." And he's like, he's going and kicking and screaming. I'm like, "remember, there's visual people, there's auditory people, there's kinesthetic people, there's auditory digital people. He's like, "yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah." "OK, well, it's worth a try. Right?" So he comes back next week to our training session and he's like. "Oh, my gosh, it's like day and night. He gets it." Sure enough, his CPA man is highly visual and just could not hear. I mean, he heard what he was instructed to do, but he had to see it in order to process it, in order to make it right. How often are you talking to people? And you're just the talking head like I am literally right now, but you're not creating a feeling. That's why I wanted to tell a story. That's how you create a feeling of, in this case, frustration, and then you're suddenly solving the problem. Sometimes it's that simple, that it's the simple things that we don't that we're not able to see. Because, and what can you see that you don't even know that you cannot see? Did I just make, did that just makes sense? It made sense when I told it myself in my head. I could go on and on just about choice and flexibility, because this is the number one success law and there are, I don't know, twenty-three more, and then they're way more than that. Brian.
Brian Kelly:
The, there's sheer power in storytelling in any and all circumstances. It doesn't matter if you're on stage in front of a sea of five hundred. It doesn't matter if you're on a webinar in front of a thousand online. It doesn't matter if you're in front of one person. It's one way to keep their attention. And they will get the content at a much deeper level. Because when you tell a story, especially when it has something to do with the topic at hand, as Brigitta just masterfully showed you all how to do, then people are leaning forward in their chairs. Whether they're in a chair or they're standing up. They're leaning forward, and they want to hear more. And you are building rapport, again, even more stronger when you're actually adding stories. And I can go on on that one forever. They can be your own. They could be something by someone else, third person. You could make one up. And I've done all three from stage and they all work masterfully. But I love that concept of storytelling.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Yeah,yeah. So there's, "the map is not the territory and the recovering from delusions, distortions, and generalizations". If I go into that all in itself, we're going to be here for another three, four, five hours. But I'm going to bank on that one and invite you to come to a intro to NLP, and we're going to go deeper into that. And I would, I actually have a visual that I want to show you with "the map is not the territory and recovering from delusions, distortions and generalizations". One thing that I want to say on that is, I was invited, I told Brian before the show. I was invited on the radio show not long ago by Casey Armstrong, who used to be a producer of Howard Stern. And we talked about recovering from delusions, distortions and generalizations. And he's like "huh"? What? And I started telling a story around it of what I do in the intro to NLP. And he's like, "Wow, Brigitta, you're a real genius". And I said, "well, you know, I don't know if I am". But when you understand that, then, you know, if what someone else then tells you you're a real genius because you get communication and when you get communication on a deeper level and you get people on a deeper level, it's easy to build relationships. And when it's easy to build relationships, it's easy to be successful. It's really that simple. And I get really excited about it. Right? It's the it's the it's the miscommunication that destroys relationships and that destroys people's success. That destroys people's joy and happiness in their life. Maybe in their personal life, maybe in their business life, maybe in any other area of their life, if there are any other areas in life that I can think of right now. But I like to say personal problems are business problems and business problems are personal problems. We're one holistic being. We're one gestalt. And you can not not learn more, because if you start, if you stop learning right now, you start dying. And I don't want you to die. I want you to be successful and be happy and be joyful. There.
Brian Kelly:
It's so true. It's all about communication and it's about building rapport and everything that Brigitta is talking about. Because I remember I've always loved people. I just didn't know how to talk to them. So I would avoid talking to people because I was not good at it. I couldn't figure it out. Me. I would talk, but I wasn't good at it. And so I learned this this whole technique of building rapport and it's done with absolute integrity. And once I learned it and then practiced it, it was so easy. Everyone on the planet was my instant friend and that's the way I liked it. And it wasn't for the purpose of personal gain, financial gain. It was for the purpose of connecting with human beings who I love already. I just didn't know how to do it at a deeper level. And what I found out, as you've already explained, Brigitta, is that now everything is improving. My personal life, my business. Oh, my gosh, business life, it's all about building relationships. And that was something that took me years to figure out. Get through this thick noggin that I can't just have an autoresponder list of ten thousand people and expect to be rich. I have to actually have relationships with many or most of them to make it really happen and make it long-term, not short-term. And I could go on and on, but I'm not going to because this is the Brigitta Hoerfele show tonight.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
And I love what you said, because if, and Brian, I did not know this about you. I thought you were like me. That was just born without any filter, just started talking to people because that's what I always did and my parents, or specifically my mom and my sister said, "what's wrong with you"? Until I figured out, you know, in my forties, everything that's right with me. So look at what's right with you and how can you build rapport? At the point, though, there is a difference between just talking and building relationships with people and know the well-formed outcome, I think this is one of the success laws on here. Oh, here it is. Know your outcome, right? Know what you're aiming for. Know what the outcome is for you, the other person, know what the outcome is for the for the sender and for the messenger. For the messenger and the receiver and for the greater good. Know what the outcome is? Because if you don't know what you're talking about and you're just talking for the sake of talking, but there's no real aim. There is no real target. There is no real goal, then you're like the, imagine. Brian, have you ever gone out and done this like dart on steroids? The ax throwing they have one here in Atlanta. It's called Bad Axe.
Brian Kelly:
I love that. I have not ever seen or been near one of those. That looks like a ton of fun, though.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Yeah, I'm terrified because I'm afraid of axes, because I'm I like my hands too much. But, you know, so you go in and you have this big axe and you and they're throwing it to a target. It's literally like darts on steroids, but without a, you know, a dart is this little thing and they have this big axe and you just throw it to a target. If you go in a conversation without without knowing the outcome, it's like literally taking that action, just going, "oh, let me see where I'm going to throw that. Maybe I'll throw it over here". Oh, my gosh, and too many people are doing that right, and that's where relationships also fall apart because A, they don't know how to communicate. B, they don't know what the outcome is. C, they don't have all of these success laws that will help them to get clear and strategic in the way that they do, that they that they adult or that they life, that they do practice their entire being on a daily basis. Know your outcome.
Brian Kelly:
I have a quick story. Oh, oh, can I can I tell one?
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Brian Kelly:
It's so true about "start with the end in mind or know your outcome before you embark on investing either money or time or both". And a perfect example, I used to go to seminars and bootcamps. I was I was like an addict. I'd go everywhere. Anything that was in reach. And so I was at yet another one. And by this time I now am working with a mentor on a regular basis, whom, ultimately I would become his lead trainer and speak from his stage training his students on NLP. But I wasn't quite there yet, and I'm sitting in this, another seminar, and he texted me out of the blue. He goes, because he saw me on Facebook posting what I was doing and he said, "Hey, Brian, what are you doing?" coyly. And I told him, I'm at this event. And he said one word because now I had learned about the outcome and how important it was. He said one word with this text. He said, "Why"? And I'm like, "Wow, he's right". He goes "well", and it turned out this seminar was physically located about three miles from his home. And he said, "Instead, why don't you come over here, we're going to have dinner. My dad just went deep sea fishing we're going to have fresh sushi. He's making it up right now. Why don't you come over here?" And I said, "Next break, I'll be there". And it was so true, though. The thing the whole bottom line is when you know your outcome ahead of time, I could have saved time. I could have saved money by not going to that seminar. I'm glad I did in that case because it put me that close to my mentor and we had a great night together. It was awesome. But in general, if you don't have the outcome in mind, you may be wasting not just money, but the most valuable asset we all have and that's time. That's my story.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Yeah. Yeah. And I love that. And that goes back to one of the success laws here. Know what your mindset is. So when you know why you're doing something or for what reason are you doing it, with what outcome? It also gives you, you're checking in with yourself. It also gives you the, an immediate feedback on where your mindset is right now, your state of mind. So your mindset is in immediate. Has an immediate effect on your results, so if your mindset is coming from, oh, I don't know enough or I'm not worthy or I don't have enough money or whatever it is, that's what you're going to see in your results. So, Brian, I'm curious, what was, thinking back, where was your state of mind going into that seminar? I need to know more. What what was your mindset?
Brian Kelly:
I knew the speaker. I had been to his event before and I met my mentor at the first time I went to see this particular speaker. So I had this positive anchor. I now know that's a positive anchor. And I just felt a togetherness that I wanted to be part of. And I wanted to network more because on occasion he would pull individuals out out of the audience, up on stage. And I had that happen to me before. And I thought, oh, that'd be a possible exposure for my business and myself. But it wasn't a very strong outcome, to be honest. I didn't have that laser focused. Since then I've done that. And every time I have the outcome in mind, that outcome seems to happen every single time. It's pretty amazing. Like meet the main speaker sometime during the event would be an outcome, because that's one of the reasons I go now is to meet the, I want to learn from them more than just network with the attendees, although the attendees are amazing. But you asked a question for a reason. So I'm going to show up here.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Yeah. And and I love that you shared that, because when you are clearly when you have your outcome well-formed, it's called a, it's a strategy in NLP, it's called well-formed outcomes. When you have your outcome well-formed, then you know when you have it. So when you're when you're going into a into a program and you're well-formed outcome is to meet the the main speaker, then you, and you then meet, afterwards, the main speaker. You can take clear action, very strategic action. Go for the speaker, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars. Go for the main speaker and then when you meet the main speaker and shake hands and go, "Hey, how can I be of service?", you now know, OK, I have literally manifested my outcome. But if you're with the axe in your hand going, "Oh, where shall I throw it?", there's going to be hands and necks and all sorts of things flying. So don't come running back to me. So one of the laws, the success laws is "your mindset equals your results". If you do not like your results, you want to check in here. You want to check in what's really going on here? What are you telling yourself? And that takes time. And that takes practice, because what's going on in here for the majority of people is going on very subliminally. And it's and you're not aware of it. Most of us are not aware of the stinking thinking and the mind chatter and all that stuff that's going on between our ears that we're telling ourselves, I'm not good enough, I can't do this. I'm just going to try that for for a little bit. And then I hope it may. It may. I may succeed. Look, all of those words already show me if you're thinking that that you're really not, you don't have a well-formed outcome. You don't have something clearly, specifically spelled out. What is it that you want? And when you truly want something, you don't try. You don't hope, you don't use the word maybe, and sometimes. Those are all words that show one that has a clear listening skills that there's no there's a lack of confidence. So speak these success laws with confidence. That's why I'm giving you this checklist so you can check in with your mind. You can check in with your actions. Are you doing the things that you need to be successful? And having a great relationship is one of the key successes in your life. Because when you can have great relationships, you're going to be successful no matter what. Now, let's take that for an example, success. How do you define success? When do you know that you are successful? So know your outcome. What has to happen? What are you going to see, hear, or feel when you are successful? For some people, successful may be know drinking more water. For some people, successful may mean shedding ten pounds. For some people it may mean putting five thousand dollars in their savings account. Success is something different for everyone. So define your success and know that it is a strategy. It is a pattern that you develop and you need success laws in order to get to a well-formed outcome to get to your pattern that will make you more successful as you do more of it. It is a not a one time thing, OK? It is an ongoing process. Your life is an ongoing process. Learning is an ongoing process. Let's see what else we have here. People are not their behavior, I love this one. People go, people are not their behavior. What does that mean? So you can love the person for who they are. But you can also know that if you build enough rapport with them and if you have the right tools, that you can assist them in changing their behavior, or you can assist yourself in changing your own behavior. Right? So just because you might be in a resourceful state, that that might mean you're not in the best mindset or you're not in the best mood or you're not in the best state of mind. You're not thinking all of the positive things that someone, your therapist, or your coach, or your mom, or your friend, or whoever is telling you to think that that has nothing to do with you. That has just something to do with your mindset. And that can be easily changed once you are aware of what's going on. So people are not their behavior. So you can love the person for who they are, but not necessarily appreciate the behavior that they're displaying. And know that you can help them by building rapport, building relationships and learning all of the strategies of NLP that you can assist them in changing their behavior. Now, you can only assist them in changing their behavior when you have built a relationship with them and you have rapport with them. Too many people are going out and they're just, "now we're going to use a baseball bat". Boy, we're sure, using some stuff around, beating people with axes and baseball bats and all sorts of things. Sometimes people go with their language like a baseball bat and go, "but you got to do this, but you've got to do that". Well, that's not how you build rapport, folks. OK? You've got to build rapport first, and that means picking the person up where they're at. With their language patterns, with their representational system, with their value language, and pace them and literally pick them up where they're at in their mindset. And then take them from there on and lead them. That is a whole strategy that I take about a half a day when I teach our NLP practitioner course called Pacing and Leading. But once you understand that, you can do more of that. It's all about it goes back to the number one on this checklist, and that is it's increasing choice and flexibility. If you're trying to pound your your opinion into someone else's head and they're not taking it and they're actually now blocking you, maybe on social media or on the phone or they're just like, "Stay away, I cannot handle the communication skills that you're putting on me". That's that's an immediate feedback. That's immediate feedback for you to become more flexible in your communication. That's an immediate feedback for you to to start listening on a deeper level. That's an immediate feedback for you, that, no, you did not fail, you just got to learn to do it a different way. That's another that's another law in the success laws checklist. There is no failure, only feedback. When, Brian, did you want to say something because I'm just I can just talk forever?
Brian Kelly:
I was just remembering back to when I was learning about this very concept about communication. And when you're the scenario is, you're talking with somebody and you're having a conversation and you're talking to them and they're not understanding what you're saying. And then the question became, "OK, well, who's at cause for that? Who's who's what is the reason for that? Who, is it the one speaking or is it the one listening"? And so every one of us, me included, answered, "it's 50 50". And he waited a moment and then he corrected us and said, "No, it's one hundred percent your responsibility, the one doing the talking, or if you're listening, it's up to you, because if you don't understand them, it's up to you to ask the proper questions, to elicit the answer that will help you to understand". And on the flip side, it's maybe you're not matching what their language patterns are. Like Brigitta was so aptly pointing out earlier with those cards that she had up. And I just want to say real quick that this is a lot of talk right now. When you actually learn NLP, it is immersive, it is experiential, it's it's sometimes physical, meaning you will touch and set inkers. And it's incredibly life-changing. It works. It's a science. It's a proven science. It's been around now for over a decade, well over a decade. Richard Bandler and John Grinder basically formed it from different other sciences and improved on it. And it's just an amazing, amazing science, proven truly that works. And it doesn't take weeks, months or years on a psychotherapist couch to to get the results. It takes minutes. I've done this from stage Brigitta's done from stage. Like limiting beliefs, that would be one. That takes on, in total, seven minutes to eradicate a limiting belief one might have. And you were going through several of those, Brigitta, earlier. Like, "I'm not good enough, I'm not smart enough, I'm not strong enough". Whateverit happens to be, those are limiting beliefs and you can literally have that extracted and removed from your subconscious brain. And that will never be a point of resistance or hesitation or a roadblock for you going forward ever again. One tiny example. I just want to let you know that the science is very complete, comprehensive, and very effective more than anything. That's the most important part.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Yeah, yeah, wow, there's so much there's so much truth to what you said, because and I want to add to that, and that's another law on the success list, on the success laws checklis. Your quality of communication equals the response that you're getting. So if you're not getting the results or the response that you desire, like Brian just said, it has nothing to do with the other person. It has everything to do with how you send it out. And remember, communication is not just words. Words is actually the smallest percentage of them all. Your body language speaks so much louder than anything else. That's why I love Zoom. I love to be I, I tried Clubhouse, I'm going to be really honest, and I don't want to dis it. But I, I'm, I'm missing the interaction and seeing people. And as you can tell, I'm pretty. How do you say, I can't think of the word right now. No, I'm, I've gone blank and I think my my dog is trying to tell me I can't understand what he's telling me either. Animated, that's the word, I'm pretty animated in my body language. Right. But that's that's a part of me. And that goes if you're just on the phone, or a Clubhouse, or wherever you are, and you only hear the words and the tonality, the whole body language part is missing. And I miss that because for me, it's necessarily to see the entire gestalt. Now, let's add some fuel to the fire. If you're texting, if you're emailing, if you're on social media and you're only writing, it's only words. And let's let's let's bring these cards back. If you're only writing in your dominant representational system, which that often happens, and you're only writing in your dominant personality type code, you are literally asking to be misunderstood because the other people are going to interpret it in the way that they represent their model of the world and what they value. So you that's I think that nowadays we're seeing that so often that people are just spewing their opinions of how they are picking up what you're writing, from their point of view. There's no right or wrong. It's a different point of view because they value things differently. They let's we could even, you know, what I haven't put on here is the culture cards. Let's add culture to that. Different cultures just within the United States, people from different countries. I'm from Germany add my culture to that right? Now, that adds another filter that's missing that's going missing when we don't know how to communicate via email, when we don't know how to communicate on social media, when we don't know how to communicate on via text. Or, you know, how how many of you have ever written a proposal, an email to someone and your outcome, your well-formed outcome that you have in your mind? "OK, when I'm writing this email, I want that person to sign on the dotted line, or I want that person to do X, Y, Z, whatever it may be. I want my husband to be at home two hours earlier than he usually gets home." Whatever it may be. And you miss to speak that other person's coded language. You're not getting anything done because they literally cannot hear you. They do not understand what you're trying to convey because you are not speaking their language. Notice I didn't say, "Oh, they're not speaking your language". It's not what I'm saying. You it is. You have to be, I have to be the person with the most flexibility, not the other person. Seek to relate. Not to respond or react. So the relating starts with me, and it's up to me to educate myself and implement what I'm learning, to then create a bigger and greater understanding for the other people that are out there. And there's the good news and there's the bad news. The good news is that everyone has their own coded language and that you can learn it. That's the good news. The bad news is that everyone has their own coded language and people have a choice if they want to learn it or not. And most people have just not made the choice to actually learn it. But to to be, come from a place of entitlement and go, "Well, if they can communicate with me, then I guess they don't have to communicate with me, there". Well that's not how it goes people.
Brian Kelly:
Great hair flip, by the way.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
I know I do that so well.
Brian Kelly:
Wow, I wanted to point out another thing about Brigitta that differentiates her from any other NLP center or practitioner I have personally known. And she goes above and beyond just the science of NLP by itself. The cards she was holding up, the colored ones come from a whole different learning, a whole different avenue. They're not NLP based. It's about personalities. And once you know better how to communicate with the personalities on top of the modalities, which are, you know, the kinesthetic and the it's been a long time. It's been a long time. And oh, my gosh, auditory and visual.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Visual, auditory, kinesthetic, auditory, digital.
Brian Kelly:
Goodness, I had a smelly old brain fart right there. Glad that there's no scratch and sniff on this show. That's good. So anyway. And that's the other thing. It's OK to have fun and it's better to have fun when you're doing NLP because it's it's key to be relaxed mentally. I learned that, Brigitta. Oh, my gosh. I went through I paid a good sum of money to go through the advanced training, through my mentors course. And for the first two days, not a single thing was working for me. Nothing. I would, so we did the the chairs, we would switch back between practitioner and the client or the student, whatever you want to call it. And every time I was the practitioner and I would do it with a student, they got the result. We'd switch it around. I got nothing. And I'm like, oh, my God, all that money and all the stress. And it was just bubbling up. I wanted it so bad. Well, that was the problem. Turns out that was a problem. My instructor at the time had been to that very exact same issue, but on steroids longer than I had. And once he explained that to me and he said all you have to do is get out of your own head. You just have to relax and let it happen. I'm like, I'm not sure I know how, but just knowing that you went through this, that relaxed me, and the very next exercise we went through it happened. And it was on anchoring. Oh, it was the best time for it to happen. Phew, I was running around the room. I kid you not. I was running around the room. They're like telling me, shh, they're still going shh. "Oh, sorry." But the thing you have to have fun, relax and have fun. It's a science that's proven. You're not going to lose your faith, whatever your faith happens to be. It's not going, you cannot be, your brain cannot be brainwashed. It cannot be reprogramed in a way that does not align with your value system. When I learned that that was like doors are open because I was worried about losing my faith. Hypnosis, that's the main thing my mom would say a little stop would go on a television on show. She literally told us all to look the other way, my brother and I, because she thought that they could steal our faith if there were subliminal messages and stuff. So I grew up thinking all this stuff was woo woo witch doctor stuff. And it turned out it's the opposite. It's science. And you cannot, you cannot reprogram someone's brain into something that is not in alignment with your own value system already. And so once you know that, you can just go forward and just go, let's go. And when you're in the, under the guidance of this amazing woman. You know, she's there for your best interest. She's only there to help improve your situation. Now you can just like, oh, my gosh, just lay back and relax and just listen and follow her instructions. That's really all there is to NLP is following instructions. And if you do it, you're going to get the results. It's that easy and it is easy. It's easy.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
It is easy. And you got to know who to do it with. Right? Who to learn from. And and knowing that there is a there's a piece of surrender, not surrender to me or surrender to the methodology. Surrender to yourself and don't and don't think you have to be perfect. I don't think it's part of this success laws checklist, but maybe I want to put it on at some point. Perfect does not exist. So any anyone that comes from a place of perfectionism is beating their head against the wall and and set themselves up to not be successful because you're striving for something that is not real. Now, you can always strive for excellence. You can always strive to always do the very best in any given moment that you have. And you can always look at being more resourceful. Right, there's nothing wrong with that, but perfectionism doesn't exist, and as long as you're striving for that perfectionism, it's really an uphill battle and you'll never get there. So surrendering to yourself and always doing your best is a great reframe, reframing is a beautiful strategy that we teach in NLP and oh, it's so powerful.
Brian Kelly:
Yes, I agree. And Santos Rolon Jr, greetings from the wonderful Stockton, California soldier of self-mastery. I love it. And he, I think he's saying you're spot on right on target there Brigitta, good job, absolutely.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Yeah. Yeah. And I love self-mastery. And anyone that is in self-mastery also knows learning. We're, as humans, we're hard wired for classroom learning from learning from masters and, me coming from Germany. You know, there's a German saying there, no master has fallen from heaven. But masters are there so we can model them. Masters are there so we can learn from them and then step up and become the master. And then you have a responsibility to teach others. Right? Don't just keep it all to yourself and your self-mastery. Teach others. And you can only teach others really well when you're in direct lineage to the methodology that you're teaching. And I can teach, I can show that, and I can teach that right? I love that. Thank you. Spot on.
Brian Kelly:
Yep, he says, "surrender and refrain". Thank you, Santos. Love it. Love it. Well, a little birdie told me you had something, a gift of some sort. In addition to the very, the success laws that we've been flashing on the screen all show long. There is something else.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Yes, so...
Brian Kelly:
Oh, look at this, Cynthia Lieberman, "there's no failure, only feedback", love it. And yes, it is being recorded and you can go back to LinkedIn, it will be on the same spot you're watching it right now. So, yeah, definitely, you want to watch this all the way through to the end. Oh, my gosh. Now they're coming. Here they come, Brigitta. Yes. Pay it forward. Learn, do, teach.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Learn, do, teach, yes.
Brian Kelly:
Santos is right on the money.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Learn, do, teach. Absolutely. You know, one little. And then I'll go into what the present that I brought for everyone or the little nugget that I got for everyone. I hope that I brought a ton of nuggets. Last year, in February last year. This is, this is February twenty twenty, little did we know we're going into a pandemic. I said to one of our faculty members, we will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever do online live courses, ever. We're not going to do that. We're not those kind of people. Right? Because I, I love being around people. If you haven't noticed yet, I'm a people person. And if my mom is watching probably this, she's banging her head against the wall going, "oh, my gosh, is she ever going to grow up?" No, mom, I'm not, because the whole growing up thing, that's a total that's that's a trap, I think. But I do love to learn. So we're going into the pandemic and we have a practitioner course on the calendar from March twenty twenty. And we go into complete lockdown like, oh, we we cannot we cannot meet not even we're all, at this point, we're terrified and we don't even know what we're terrified of. But we're going into complete lockdown. I'm like, well people have paid lots of money for this course and they're looking forward to it and we've created great excitement and now they can't come. Are you kidding me? What are we going to do? We go live online. And the feedback that we've gotten from people, they're like, oh, my gosh, we we didn't think that you could hold the energy like that in a Zoom space. We didn't think that you could do the exercises that you have done with us on Zoom. We love the breakthrough rooms. Notice I'm not saying breakout. I'm calling them breakthrough room. So we have a practitioner course coming up very soon, but before we go into the practitioner, I want to invite you to the introduction to NLP. So every first Wednesday and the next one is next week, March 3rd at five thirty PM Eastern Time. That's two thirty Pacific time and all the time zones in between. You guys are smart people. So two thirty Pacific, five thirty Eastern is the introduction to NLP and it's exactly on this link that Brian has just put in the box here that you're seeing in our window. So intro to NLP, it is at no cost. I'm going to go a little bit deeper into the model of the world and our human communication and the filters. You get to ask questions. It's a it's a live online introduction to NLP. You get to be there with me, so make sure that you sign up for it. It's a free course. In that free course, I'm also going to talk about the practitioner. And because I love Brian so much and Brian's just become a great friend of mine over the years, I said right before we went live today, Brian, for the listeners of your group, I'm going to do a special. Because our practitioner course cost four thousand nine hundred ninety-seven dollars. I'm going to give a two thousand nine hundred ninety-seven dollar price point for the practitioner. That's unheard of.
Brian Kelly:
It is.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
That's unheard of.
Brian Kelly:
That's amazing. Oh, my goodness.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
That's a two thousand dollar discount that I'm giving you guys and it will go away. So you come to. So here's the steps that you're going to take. You're going to sign up https://ryp.im/IntoToNLP and I think you need to capitalize the I and the T and the NLP, right?
Brian Kelly:
That is correct. I put it in the comments already.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Intro to NLP. Make sure that you sign up and then come on Wednesday the third and then from there you're going to get the two thousand nine hundred ninety-seven dollar price point for the practitioner course. unheard of. But that price is going to go away March 4th, the next day on Thursday at twelve o'clock Pacific Time. So if you're coming at one o'clock on March 4th, sorry, guys, I've given you enough notice. If you're like, oh my gosh, that's a no-brainer, I want to do that right now. Go on our NLP website, nlpatlanta.com and just go into the shop and get it right there. You can send us an email. You're welcome to send us an email [email protected] and say, I want to take advantage of this incredible, crazy price before I change my mind. Go, go and go to the to the website nlpatlanta.com. Come to our intro to NLP or send us an email [email protected].
Brian Kelly:
So is there any way they can get to this? Just one way. I'm kidding. So that's that's the key everyone, is go to the URL you see on the screen first and get enrolled to that. It's free, as you said. And once you're in there, she'll know because she'll get your email address and she'll know that you saw this show and that you are going to be given when you choose to move forward with her and do the practitioner course, which my gosh, I spent more than your full price and it was worth far more than I spent. And I'm not kidding when I say that, because it's just absolutely. I mean, I was forty-seven, forty-eight at the time I went through. I probably completed all of the advanced courses by age forty-nine or fifty. There were a lot of them, including speaking from stage. And I got to tell you that I cannot wait to get up in the morning every day because the rest of my life is in front of me. I'm so excited every day. Every day, even when there are bad days that used to be like, "oh, whoa is me". Now it's like, well, I can either let circumstances control my attitude or I can let my attitude dictate my circumstances. And when I learned that at a deep level and then all the NLP techniques that you can utilize for yourself is just like, Katie bar the door, let's go live, baby. This there is no price tag that can be put on this. So the reason I'm harping on this is March 4th is for twenty twenty-one for anyone that's seeing this in the following years or listening. And even though, even then forty-nine ninety-seven is a discount in my humble opinion. To change your life forever. And look, when your life is change, those around you are affected by your change. I know this from personal experience. I came home and I could there was a different interaction with my wife and I. She did not go through at the same time I did. I went through it first and our interactions just improved. And I didn't tell her why. I honestly wasn't sure why at that time I knew I knew the the main reason was NLP, of course, but didn't know that the real reasons why things were changing for the better. Your relationships change. Oh my gosh. Just going to a restaurant, Brigitta I would practice rapport building skills. I'm sitting down so I couldn't match and mirror that well while they're standing up. But it was like it got to be like that and instantly you know, someone who looked like they were very reserved walking over, taking your order, they're like opening up like a flower and just friends instantly. And it's just so amazingly rich what it does. It does it for your personal life, your business life. Life, life, your life will improve. So no matter when you see this or hear this, I implore of you upon you to seek out Brigitta and go to this link that you are seeing and hearing about right now. No matter what day or time it is, what year it is, it doesn't matter. Go there, get connected with Brigitta and then sign up for the practitioner course because it will just be the beginning of the rest of your beautiful life. I kid you not.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Yes, I agree. I agree. And you know what? Thank you, Brian. Thank you for believing in humanity. Thank you for putting on this show and and being a great megaphone of of joy and of truth. Thank you for having me on the show, gosh, what other things can I thank you for? Thank you for your brilliance.
Brian Kelly:
That's enough. That's enough. That's good. That's good, no more. No more. We are so alike. It's so scary. There is, before we go and then I'm going to remind and put that link up on the screen again. There's one more giveaway here. So for those of you that stuck with us live to the end, it's time to enter to win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. Again, compliments of The Big Insider Secrets. If you remember, in the beginning, I was saying pay attention and take notes, oh, but on that note, no pun intended. I'm running this whole show. I personally am taking notes as well. So what excuse? I should have said that in the beginning right? But you now have both Brigitta and my permission to temporarily, just for a moment, take out that smartphone of yours, that's if you're not watching on your smartphone already and then pull up your text messaging app. You all know what that is by now. And what you do is follow the instructions I'm about to give you and you can enter to win. And so where you would actually put in the name of the person you're going to text instead put in this number, it's 314-665-1767. And yes, Brigitta is eligible to enter too, 314-665-1767. And then where you go to type in the message where you would say, I don't know, put an emoji and say, "hey, how are you doing"? No emojis, just two words separated by a dash or hyphen, if you prefer. That is peak P-E-A-K-vacation. No spaces in between all together. Go ahead and shoot that off. You may want to write this down real quick. Take a quick screenshot if you're able, because we're going to move back to Brigitta and ask her one final boomer of a question you do not want to miss. This is amazing. She doesn't even know it's coming up. Peak vacation. Go ahead. Text that to 314-665-1767. And then be sure to then later check your phone. There will be additional instructions for you to get completely entered and it's simply to supply your email address so that our automated system can take over and put you in the random drawing and pick a winner and deliver the goodies to you. I hope you win whoever you are watching all of you. Woo, OK, I'm going to put up the URL that everyone should go and register for this for free once a month. That's all she does. And this is the next one. March 3rd is that when the next one is?
Brigitta Hoerfele:
March 3rd is next Wednesday. Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
So it's coming soon. Get registered. So you'll start getting reminders. You'll go to an eventbrite site, I believe. Do I recall that correctly?
Brigitta Hoerfele:
That's correct.
Brian Kelly:
And you'll get reminders and then attend and then you qualify to take the next step with Brigitta at almost fifty percent off. I mean, that's incredible. And jeeze, even then full price is far discounted, in my humble opinion. So it doesn't matter when you're watching or listening to this, just take action. I mean, there's no time like the present to change your life forever. So just please go do that, please. For yourself, for your family, for those that you love, they're all going to see a difference in you and you're going to have the greatest rest of your life you could ever imagine. I'm not kidding, I'm I'm literally getting goosebumps under my jacket. If I could show them and rub them and you could hear them, I would. But that's not possible. And Brigitta's dog is saying, "wrap it up will you Brian? Wrap it up." OK, OK, Fido, I'm getting there. I know it's not Fido. So, Brigitta, I love to ask this question of every guest of mine who comes on the show. And I find it very compelling. And it's so funny in a good way that you literally teach on this very topic. You mentioned it tonight. And it was I was like, oh, big smile ear to ear as soon as you said it. And it was very important that you understand what how yours is defined. And so I probably gave it away. But are you ready for the big, incredible powerful.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Bring it on.
Brian Kelly:
Mike. Dropping question? Yeah?
Brigitta Hoerfele:
Yeah bring it on. I don't know if I should be scared or excited.
Brian Kelly:
I'd say excited.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
OK, I'll be excited.
Brian Kelly:
All right.
Brigitta Hoerfele:
I can be a little excited.
Brian Kelly:
Brigitta Hoerfele, how do you define success?
Brigitta Hoerfele:
How do I define success? Oh, so many things go around in my head right now. I'm just going to blurt out success for me is when people around me are getting what they desire that when they can live their dream and I'm literally having my eyes closed because I'm tapping into my heart rather than speaking out of my out of my brain. When people get what they desire, what they want, live the dream, tap into, you know, at some point when they were little, they probably said something what they really wanted to achieve and and they had to belief around it. And then they grew up and the adults around them said, "Oh, but you can't do that or oh, that's silly. Or Oh, but you're meant to do X, Y, Z". Success for me is when I can lift other people up, male and female and anything that defines in any other way. When I can see other people truly being joyful and happy and what they're doing, and I have either witnessed or supported or helped or guided or just watched from the sideline or being able to celebrate with them, just have some part of it. In in their success, that's how that's how I define success for me.
Brian Kelly:
Hmmm, that is amazing, because you are amazing. And so, you know, I loved everything. The first thing that came from you was not, it had absolutely nothing to do with you. It was about others, and that's what I truly love about you, Brigitta. You always are caring for others. I mean, every time I talk to you, email or otherwise, you end it with how can I serve you? Every single time. And it's not just saying it to say it for saying it's sake. It's because you mean it. And I know that you mean it because you you stand behind it. If I say, well, yeah, actually if you wouldn't mind, could you do this like you're like, sure. So I just want everyone to understand and recognize what kind of person we're dealing with right here, this amazing one. And that, look, there's no better person that I could think of right now that I personally know that can get you the results you want and you deserve. So take action, I'm going to put up one last time so that everyone can have the opportunity to have their life changed. And again, that's ryp.im/IntroToNLP. And on the intro to NLP, the I, the T and the NLP are all capitalized. It's in the comments. If you want to come back onto Facebook, YouTube, Periscope, if is still around LinkedIn, it's on every one of those platforms. Twitch didn't allow a comment to go out, unfortunately, but we're all over the place. And if you don't know what that link is, ask me. Reach out if you can't remember. But goodness, if you're watching this, take a screenshot and type it in exactly the way you see it, and you'll be fine. All right. I think we're a wrap Brigittaa, that was phenomenal and phenomenal mini Masterclass. NLP is so wide and varied any you did such a masterful job of just bringing it down to an understandable point for people to get a jumping point to understand, OK, I don't know everything about NLP, but I think I know enough now to realize that this is a life-changing science and I want to know more. That was me telling you, wow, when I first learned of this thing, I'm like, what? I never, I heard these three letters, but I never experienced any of it. And then I went to the first of two two-day seminars of my mentor's, and my mind was blown in a great way. And I'm like, this stuff is amazing. I got immediate results. I mean, I walked out of the room and I already I knew something was different, you know. Like you either, sometimes you feel it right away. Sometimes it's after you leave the seminar. Sometimes it's the next day or the next week. But something changes. It rewires your brain for the better. And it's it's amazing. And so get connected. Brigitta Hoerfele you know her name. You've seen her. Let's see. Let's put that up there. Brigitta Hoerfele. And this is her website if you want to get in touch with her through and you can see over the course as she has many more than just practitioner, NLP practitioner, NLPAtlanta.com, NLPAtlanta.com, accredited. It's an amazing center. And this is what she does. This is her livelihood. This is her life. She's an expert. Her husband helps out Christian's, an amazing, amazing guy. I don't know if your kids help out, but I can only imagine they do. I mean, they're just so freaking awesome. But this is a heart-centered, incredibly, incredibly bright and wonderful woman who wants nothing but the best for you. So, I mean, I don't know how much more I can boost her up before you take action and go get connected with her. Get registered, and then watch your life change before your eyes and just follow her instructions and you'll get everything out of life that you've ever dreamed and more. I cannot emphasize that great enough. Anything else, Brigitta, to close us out?
Brigitta Hoerfele:
No, no. I think I had fun. I hope that you guys had fun, too. Brian, it's always fun with you. Thank you for having me on. Thank you guys for watching. And yeah, I look forward to seeing you at the Intro to NLP next week. Let's go get it.
Brian Kelly:
Go get it, that's it. Go get it. All right. On behalf of this amazing, amazing woman Brigitta HOerfele, I am your host, Brian Kelly of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. And that is it for tonight. We'll be back again very, very soon. Until then, have a great, great evening. God bless. We'll see you soon.
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Brigitta Hoeferle
PRECISION MEETS CHARISMA
As a powerfully engaging and professional international speaker, Brigitta is also known as the fasted-tracked female trainer and retired lead coach of one of the largest self-development companies in the world.
As leading mentor, business coach and author she is invited to speak on stages around the world. Her degrees in marketing, communication, social pedagogy and education science validate her expertise, logic and knowledge, but it is her creativity, humanity and passion which really makes her stand out and lead other credible high quality leaders.
Brigitta was born and raised in Germany and resides in the U.S. since 2004 with her two wonderfully independent and successful teenage daughters, and her husband, the renowned Culture Guy. She is the award-winning founder of the German Language School and the Montessori School of Cleveland.
As the Founder and Shareholder of The Montessori School of Cleveland, and as CEO & owner and Grandmaster of The NLP Center, a global institute located in Atlanta, GA she gives full credit for her success to her unique communication and listening skills, her tenacity and her never-ending desire to take something from good to outrageously great.
To add even more fuel to the fire and more credibility to her work, Brigitta has created Coaching Programs for large Corporations and conducts extensive trainings for Corporate and Government Organizations, leading The NLP Center with knowledge & heart as the CEO and master trainer. Be prepared to learn, laugh and love.
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Narrator :
So, here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us, who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back. Who are dedicated, determined, and driven. How do we finally break through and win? That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly, and this is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show.
Brian Kelly:
Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Super excited for tonight's show. We have not just one, not two, not three, but four, four amazing guest experts who are joining me tonight right here on this very stage.
Brian Kelly:
They are waiting in the wings at this moment. So let's get busy. Shall we? The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, that is a show about what I call the three pillars of success, and that came about as a result of my study of only successful people in the last decade or so. And these patterns kept bubbling to the top and those patterns being mine, which is mindset set. Each and every successful person, to a person, had a very powerful and flexible mindset. So I learned that and said," I need to implement that". Then body: body is about literally taking care of yourself. Through nutrition and through exercise, exercising on a regular basis, and again that was another pattern of very successful people and in business. These successful people had mastered the skill-sets that were necessary to create, maintain, and grow a thriving business. They're wide and varied. It's like marketing, sales, team-building, systematizing. It goes on and on and on, leadership. There's no one person, in my humble opinion, that could master every single one of these. All you have to do is master just one, and I actually mentioned one of those. It was in that list. I don't know if anyone caught that, but if you master just one of those skill sets then you're good to go. That skill set is leadership. When you've mastered the skill set of leadership, you can then delegate those skills off to people who have those skill sets. See where I'm going? Good. That's what successful people do; the ones that I studied, anyway, over the course of about 10 years. That's what this show's about. It's a show for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs. I got four guests waiting, and I'm not going to wait any longer. So, I think we should just bring them on. What do you think? Let's do it.
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Brian Kelly:
And there they all are. These amazing, beautiful guests on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. How are you all doing? Altogether, too. That was phenomenal, I love that. So real quick. All of you, I hope you don't mind for just a moment. I want to do some housekeeping? I wanted to mention to everyone watching here live. If you stay with us till the end, you can win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. All compliments of our friends at The big insider secrets dotcom. You see them flying by on the bottom of the screen right now. It's an amazing, amazing vacation stay. Stay until the end, and you'll learn how you can enter to win that wonderful prize. We also have this. If you're struggling with putting on a live show, and it's overwhelming and you want a lot of the processes done for you while still enabling you to put on a high-quality show. And connect with great people like the ones we have tonight, and to grow your business all at the same time, then head on over to carpet bomb marketing dotcom. Carpet bomb marketing, saturate the marketplace with your message. One of the key components that is contained in the carpet bomb marketing courses, and this is one that you'll learn how to absolutely master, is the very service we use to stream our live shows right here on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Over the course of the past, now it's over nine years, we have tried many of these, "TV studio solutions" for live streaming. I'll tell you right now, Stream Yard is the best of the best. It combines supreme ease of use along with unmatched functionality. So, go ahead. You can start streaming high-quality, professional live shows for free. Yes, I said it. For free, with Stream Yard right now. Visit this website, and do this after the show over. Take notes while the show is going. So write this down R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. Fantastic. Now let's get to the real fun, and the fun is these amazing people. Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. How are you all doing tonight? Thank you for being on this amazing show. Yes. So, what I'd like to do is open it up. Let the folks get to know you just a little bit now. Ok, guys. We're talking sixty seconds or less. All right. Just lay it low here, but we'll just go and order. I usually go ladies first, but let's just go around the circle. It's easier for me who's running the show. So. That's what's important. Right? So, let's start with Dylan Shinholser. Go ahead. Take it away. Give us a little brief background about you, what you do, and your business.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. So like I said, my name is Dylan Shinhoser. I own a couple of different businesses. I'm owner of a company called, "Experience Events", which is event management. I'm also a director of business development at a virtual event, event ticketing, and virtual event platform called, "ViewStub". As well as a co-host of another show called, "Event Masters", where I just ramble all day, every day about how to produce better experiences. It's really all I know and love to do is events. That is my less than 60-second pitch about myself.
Brian Kelly:
That's a good one, too. I'll tell everybody I've spoken with you in person. We had a call some time ago, and this gentleman, Dylan, is made of integrity and great character. So, reach out to him if you need any assistance in any of the areas he talked about, or if you just want to say hi to a really great guy. Then get in contact with him, and at the end of the show, we'll go through that. Please. Somebody remind me if I forget how to contact each of you. Because that's very important to me. This is the reason I bring this show to the forefront. (It) is to bring people like you into the lives of those who may not know who you are yet, and even those that do, to experience even more of your brilliance, your experience, your knowledge, and your value. It's not about me. This is about you. Always, always. Every time. I have one guest, usually. I just feel like I'm in this big family right now. But let's keep moving. Julie Riley, amazing young woman. Take it away.
Julie Riley:
Yes. So, I am Julie Riley. I am the social media manager at StreamYard. The platform we're using right now. Prior to my time with StreamYard, I owned my own marketing agency. I've been in digital marketing since two thousand and seven. So the very, very early days of the start of it is when I jumped in(to) digital marketing, and I love just being able to help others succeed in their business.
Brian Kelly:
Fantastic, and I will also say that I have spoken with Julie in the past. Both through a typewritten chat form and verbally. I think it was Clubhouse first time, which was phenomenal. Yet another phenomenal person, incredible integrity, and character. And yes, you're going to notice there's a pattern about this with the remaining two. It's the same thing. Hopefully, we can get the last one to talk a little bit. That will be nice. I'm just having fun because we were having fun before the show started. The one smiling. The biggest down there with the green hood; not pointing anyone out or anything. Thank you, Julie, for coming on. Yes. These people, Julie and Christian specifically, I know Christians coming up here in second. They're non-stop. They don't stop working. It's evident because of the very software research we're using right now. It's of grand quality for a reason. It's because of people like Julian Christian who keep everything rolling smoothly on the back end. Dylan's there nodding his head emphatically because he gets it. It's a lot of work, and they're doing it masterfully and we appreciate you. All right. Enough of the favoritism here that felt like favoritism. Julie's our favorite. Timothy McNeely! My buddy, my friend from just a little north of where I reside. I believe. If I remember.
Timothy McNeely:
Central California, baby. Bakersfield. Yeah, my name is Tim McNeely. Today, so many dentists and driven entrepreneurs are just not sure if they're getting advice that really makes a difference for them. They may have a financial adviser who is giving them some advice on their investment portfolio, but they're not really sure that they're on the right track to really maximize their net worth outside of their business. That's what I help them do. Maximize your net worth so that you can keep taking care of the people you love, support the causes you care about, really make that difference in the world, and build an amazing life of significance. I love doing streaming because I get to talk to some of the best of the best out there and share the knowledge with the beautiful entrepreneurial community.
Brian Kelly:
I'll tell you something on a personal note as well. Literally, we talked earlier today, Tim and I, on a Zoom call. He just reached out to me and said, "let's catch up." I had him on the show some time ago as a single, solo guest, and he was phenomenal. We've just kind of maintained a relationship, a friendship ever since. He just wanted to reach out and say, "Hi" and "What's up? What do you want to talk about?" We just started talking about business and things. He gave me resources that will help me in my business, and hopefully, I reciprocated it somehow. I don't know if I did, but it is the people like Tim, like Julie, like Dylan, like Christian. That is the cloth that they are all cut from. They are here to help people. That's why I love entrepreneurs. I love all of you. I mean it. I do. I love you. You guys are amazing. I didn't even get a crack at a Christian on that one. Jeez, I mean... there we go. That's a little better, but I'm telling you, he's working on StreamYard our stuff right now as we're on the show. I mean, I'm.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm really trying not to, seriously.
Brian Kelly:
The founder Geige Vandentop. If you ever watch this, there's a message to you. Ease up on your people. Alright? Just having fun. Alright, Timothy, you're an amazing guy. Thank you for spending your valuable time and coming on here. As well as Dylan, Julie, and the ever so talkative one, Christian. I'm not going to attempt to say your last name. I'll let you take care of that one. Welcome to the show, Christian. Let's hear all about your brilliance.
Christian Karasiewicz:
Sure. Thanks a lot for having me. My name is Christian Kerasiewicz. I'm the content marketing manager at StreamYard. So, pretty much anything you see on our blog that we're going to soon be launching. I'm the mastermind behind that. So, I do that. In addition to that, I also host live stream reviews, a YouTube show. We also do on the StreamYard YouTube channel where we invite people on to talk about their live streams and help them work through some of their problems, some of their challenges that they might be having with getting community or building a show. Thanks a lot for having me. I appreciate it.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, my gosh. Thank you again, Christian, for your time and being here. I mean, he's literally building a blog while on a live show. I mean, that's a great thing. I'm not even kidding with this one. That is phenomenal. That is showing such dedication. So, it's more than that. It's passion. It's love. You know? What time is that where you are, Christian?
Christian Karasiewicz:
About 9 o'clock, or yeah... about 9 o'clock.
Brian Kelly:
(Nine o'clock) PM. Ladies and gentlemen, in case you're watching this recording. Yes. By the way, I'm going to be on twenty-five different platforms after this is over. So no pressure, but don't mess up. I'm just kidding. So, this is a phenomenal group of people, and I can't wait to dig in. Christian, just what you just said, what you do is right down the alley of what I was hoping to talk about tonight. It'll go organically, but I wanted to talk about... I mean, look at Julie, and look at Christian, and look at their images. Look at their video. It is gorgeous. Here, we'll start with a really gorgeous one first. Look at that. I mean. If there were nose hairs that weren't in place, we'd see them. That's phenomenal, and there is Julie. Wow. Very beautiful. Even more beautiful. I should just have her up like this all the time, and we can just talk in the background. Because, you know, maybe more people would come on. So, you guys have phenomenal camera setups, and here's one thing I always like to preach to those who are getting into the live streaming game. Does it take money? Yes, it does. It takes resources. It takes cameras, microphones, (a) computer, internet, good internet, fast internet, lighting, doesn't have to be fancy. What I always say though, is, do the best you can with the resources you currently have. OK, I wanted to start it off that way because what we're about to talk about with Julie and Christian is their cameras. They are top of the line. We're not talking a one-hundred or two-hundred-dollar webcam here. I like to let ladies go first. So, Julie, do you have a story when you first turned on your new camera versus when you had the webcam and what that looked like and felt like.
Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh, I turned that camera on, and it was immediately noticeable (the difference). I actually did a live on my personal Facebook page where I logged myself in as a second user into StreamYard. I had my Logitech camera that I had been using up as a camera and then had my new one. So, I could do back and forth and show everybody the difference between the two. What an upgrade that was. The Logitech served me great for years. It didn't stop me from going live, but that upgrade was immediately like, "oh, I can never go back down now".
Brian Kelly:
So, that so that is one thing. Let's say you're on the road, and I can imagine at some point both you and Christian, maybe, you'll be sent on the road to maybe support conventions and things that are on the road. Now, you want to stream live, what are you going to do then?
Julie Riley:
Well, you know, the great thing about the Sony is (that) it's a small camera. Tripods, portable ones, are small. I can take it with me. If all else fails, and I'm either on my phone or I'm on my little webcam or even my built in webcam, it's not going to stop me from going live. Is it going to be exactly what I want? No, but more than likely I'll have the Sony with me.
Brian Kelly:
Thank you for saying that. I mean, that spoke such volumes. I hope people are taking notes that are watching. Definitely take notes on this. Because, look, the show must go on. That's what I say, and this show tonight is the result of a guest who unfortunately was ill and could not make it on. So, I scrambled and found these four wonderful people to say, "I'll come on and do a panel with you." And that's it. The show must go on, and I'm going to either do it with people or I'll do it solo. It doesn't matter. Consistency is key, and we can talk more about that, too. I love how you're just talking about, Julie. Where, look, I don't care where I'm at. If I've got something and it's my time to go live, and I don't have my gear. I'm doing it.
Julie Riley:
Right.
Brian Kelly:
I love that commitment. So, thank you for that. For everyone listening, that's important. Yes, quality is important. Like I said, do the best you can with what resources you currently have. That includes, wherever you are. You may have a DSL camera that Julie paid five-hundred thousand dollars for. Oh, sorry, it wasnt that much.
Julie Riley:
Thank God it wasnt that much!
Brian Kelly:
What was the model of that again?
Julie Riley:
A6000.
Brian Kelly:
What does it run about?
Julie Riley:
It was about seven hundred.
Brian Kelly:
OK, not too bad. A little bit less than five-hundred thousand. Not much but yeah.
Julie Riley:
Yeah.
It's a phenomenal thing, and I love that that's your attitude toward commitment. I'll tell you. You have a similar attitude...anytime I go and ask for support through the back side of StreamYard community. I mean, like through messaging. When I say the backside, that's sounded weird. When I ask for support, you're always there. I mean, you don't sleep, and I appreciate that. So, keep not sleeping for everybody's sake. Christian, you do the same. So, Christian, what about you? When you made that initial change from whatever camera you had before to this unbelievably clear one year look you're working with right now. What did that feel like the moment you saw a difference?
Christian Karasiewicz:
So, it's very interesting actually. So, this is actually what I was using before. I've been using this for quite a number of years. This is a Logitech Brio. It does do 4K. I invested in this one and eventually came out, and the quality was fantastic. The only thing was, though. I wanted to scale. So this was great for traveling, for example. This is what I took around with me. Super portable. It's got the ability to put it on a tripod. Fantastic, but it did not allow me to scale, so I had to always take up another USB port and all that sort of thing. When I moved to the Sony, the Sony looked very good. I will say the one thing you have to do, though, is you need to go through the settings. There are a few adjustments you want to change. That's what's going to actually enhance your picture quality of it. It's a fantastic camera. It's a Sony 6400. Then, really, the other side to it is also the lens. So I'm using a Sigma lens. So, that I think is the real big difference. I mean you have the kit lenses it comes with. I did make the investment in the the additional lens, which I think that's actually what's contributing to why it looks so good. I will say from a quality standpoint, again, start with what you have. You know, the key things for live streaming. Audio is going to be your most important part. Then also, if you, for example, are using one of these webcams, make sure you have enough light. These things look great with a lot of light. When you don't have a lot of light, you're going to see pixelation. You're going to see distortion and things like that. So, turn it back to you.
Brian Kelly:
Especially with light, if you turn on the green screen feature, you really need to have good lighting then. That's the biggest time. I'm so glad to be liberated from that. Even though I loved it. This is actually a natural well behind me. I painted the entire studio. I actually occupy my daughter's former bedroom. I've been here for four or five years now, and I finally got rid of the cartoon drawings and the yellow paint. I'm a real boy now. I have a real studio. This is awesome.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That looks really good by the way. I was very surprised (by) your background because that looks like one of the standard backgrounds people would normally bring up during a live stream. One that has, you know, the gradient going around the outside. So, whoever did the painting on that fantastic job.
Brian Kelly:
Why, thank you very much. My wife did most of the work to be honest, but I feel like that helps with that. Yeah.
Timothy McNeely:
If you want that comparison between cameras. Right. Christine was just talking about the Logitech Brio. That's what I'm on, and you can see the massive quality difference between Kristen and Julie versus the webcam. So. Right. (A) huge step up.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, we'll point that out in glowing detail right now.
Christian Karasiewicz:
You're using a green screen. Right?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
Your sound, Christian, is smooth. I mean, you have a great radio voice. Having that microphone, I think will pivot to that too. Dylan, what are your thoughts on cameras? Yours looks actually really decent right now? You're on (a) green screen, correct?
Dylan Shinholser:
Correct. Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
It looks really clean. You've done a good job with all the lighting. It's almost like you've done this before, and you know what you're doing.
Dylan Shinholser:
I try. Yeah. So, I actually when I first started doing it, I started listening back on my phone. When this whole pandemic hit, I was using the one inside your laptop and realized very quickly (that) I'm on calls all day, live streaming shows and stuff. I was like, "I got to set my game up." So, I haven't made that leap yet to the DSLR, but I will. I'm on a Logitech, one of the models. I won't even lie because I'm not that tech-savvy. It was expensive for Logitech, so I bought it. I was like, "it's got to work." So, yeah. So, that's where I'm at. I agree heavily. I think it comes down to, because we get asked it and I know you guys get asked, it comes down to what you can afford at the moment. Then always trying to push the limits of production value. Right? My background was a wall. It was just like random yellow wall, and now I have a giant green screen wallpaper now. So, now, I can be wherever I want which is a concert. That's where I want to be, and that's where I'm going to be.
Brian Kelly:
You're the one on the stage, brother. Not the audience.
Dylan Shinholser:
No, I'm actually the guy behind the stage. I never want to be this. It's actually weird for me to be in front of people. I'm the guy behind the stage telling people to get on the stage.
Brian Kelly:
Pushing them forward. Well, you do a good job, Dylan. I wouldn't know any different. Maybe your calling is to step out from behind and be on front more often.
Dylan Shinholser:
We will see. Twenty twenty-one has a lot of stuff, and I've got a long way to go. I got super bored in twenty-twenty so I might as well talk.
Brian Kelly:
I've gotten to know you a little bit over time, and you've got a great personality. I think you need to shine in front of more people. That's my humble opinion.
Dylan Shinholser:
I appreciate that.
In the front, not behind the scenes. It's okay to be behind the scenes on occasion, but someone like you with your personality and your integrity, your character...get out there, buddy. It's a disservice if we don't get to see you. Let me put it that way.
That's what a mentor of mine said. He was like, "dude, you're actually being selfish by not talking more and getting it out." Because like I said at the beginning, I only want to help more people create better experiences and events. Make them flow better and make them more money as humanly possible. At the end of the day, I just want to travel the world with cool people and do cool things. I've learned a lot, and a lot of people need some of that experience. So, I got a stern talking to by one of my mentors. He was like, "dude..." I was like, "alright, it's alright. I promise." I started live streaming then had to get better cameras, better lights going on. It's crazy up here in my little command center of all these different lights, webcams, and monitors. Everything you need to do to pull these shows off.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I love it. Christian, go ahead.
Christian Karasiewicz:
So, I want to throw something in there real quick. We talked about various types of cameras. If you're just getting started, use that built-in laptop, the webcam. So then you can take it up a notch. You can go to the Logitech. The C922. That's about, I think, a 60 to 70 dollar webcam. So, don't overpay by the way. It's about 60 to 70 dollars. Get it from Logitec, probably. If you find an astronomical price on Amazon, move up to like the Brio, for example. If your budget allows it, that's about one hundred fifty dollar camera. Then move up to a DSLR. For example, Julie's got that, the Sony 6000. I would also say if you happen to have a smartphone, this can be used as a webcam. Essentially, if you think about it, this is a thousand dollar camera. Because you paid a thousand dollars for this device of sorts, and this will give you some phenomenal picture quality. If you already have a smartphone and you don't have to have the latest iPhone, it could be pretty much any iPhone and Android phone. You just need an app such as one called,"Camo." There's one called,"Erion." So, there are lots of apps out there. Don't think like, "hey, I have to now go drop a bunch of money." Look at the phones you have lying around. Those are going to be great ways to fix your picture quality.
Julie Riley:
I've been going live since 2015, and I only had this camera last year.
Brian Kelly:
That's it. You keep reinvesting. I had a good friend of mine who were business partners. He said, I'll never forget it,"sales drive service". When you're making money, you're able to invest. You're able to up your game, and I love that. So many great points. You can just set a phone on a tripod and your camera will look better than many people's webcams. For sure. One of the things that I would recommend, this isn't just a plug StreamYard, is to get at least get the free plan. Do they need any more than the free plan to be part of the community, Julie?
Julie Riley:
No. They can come to join the community even if they're just getting started into streaming. We do like everybody to have the free plan so they have an understanding, but we'll still let you in. Agree to the rules. That's the big thing. Yeah, come join the StreamYard community. It's really a "stream yard" community.
Brian Kelly:
It's a very valuable place because questions like what Christian just addressed are often asked (What do I need?). I'm just starting. I'm a newbie. I see that so much in there. What can you do to help with a camera or microphone or computer? You can go there if you have those questions and ask, and the community will fill in the blanks wonderfully well because they're a great bunch of people. Just like Tim down there who's gotten pushed to the side for a while. So, Tim, is this your first camera that you've been using for live streaming so far? Did you have one before it?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah, right. I started with just an HD one. Right. Logitech and then jumped up to the Brio. Been happy with that so far. But, you know, it's interesting how the game keeps growing again. That's the thing, right? Just get started! Just do this. I started with just using zoom and recording those for my interviews, and then I realized (that) I need a better platform. I need a way to kind of do that live production. Now I'm doing Stream Yard and got intros. Just get started with whatever you've got and kind of build that proof of concept. You know, I recently just upgraded my lights because I bought the cheapest lights I could at first. I just wanted to do something, and done is better than not done a lot of times.
Brian Kelly:
I totally agree with everything you just said and like what Christian was saying. If you're going to put money into anything, make it the audio side of things first when you upgrade. I was fortunate. I started over nine years ago streaming live. This is a DSLR. Not a DSLR. Good grief, XLR microphone. It's old school. It's not even USB. So I plug it into a mixer board, and from there into my computer. I've used it for years. It's been just amazing. I've never had to do anything with my sound as a result. For you, there are great USB alternatives now. Oh my gosh, there are so many out there. Someone like Christian could probably point you in the right way. Someone like the StreamYard community could push you in the right way and tell you,"these are the ones". I have a connection with the guy who is a sound expert. I've never heard of this before. He has a studio that does 4D sound. I don't even know what that means. Four dementional?
Christian Karasiewicz:
Sweet.
I don't know what that means, audibly. He was telling me about speakers in the ceiling. I'm like, holy moly,. You don't need that obviously for a talk show like this, but think about the possibilities and have fun with it. The bottom line is, when you go on and go live. Enjoy yourself. I'm trying to do that a little bit with these fine people tonight. Thankfully, they're still here with me. I haven't upset them too great, especially Christian. I keep picking on him. Poor guy. I appreciate you all, and it's okay to have fun on your show. Would you guys agree with that? Is it okay to have a little bit of fun?
Julie Riley:
One hundred percent. If you're having fun, your audience is going to be having fun with you.
If you're not having fun... I don't believe in doing anything that I don't find fun. It's a life motto of mine. If I don't want to do it, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Like you said, Julie. If you're not having fun with it, then how in the world do you expect the viewers to want to have fun or engage or interact? It starts with you.
Brian Kelly:
Absolutely, absolutely. One of the things I wanted to pivot to is something I'm deeply interested in because the product that came up earlier when I did the quick ads spot. I like to solve the pain points that people are having in their live streaming experiences. I'm curious. I'll bet, Julie and Christian, you guys have seen and heard a lot about that. I actually had a team member of mine from my company put a poll up in the form of a meme, a graphic. What's the right word? I am having trouble with words these days. It's an infograph. That's it. Simple. I was a little bit shocked by the result, but I was just curious what you guys think. What are the biggest pain points you're seeing? (Either) that you're having individually. Tim, if you have that as well. Dylan as well. Dylan, you probably hear about a bunch of it as well. What are the pain points you are seeing come back over and over and over again? I'm having a horrible time trying to find another guest on my show if they're interview style, or the tech is just blowing my mind. Even though StreamYard is so simple. I'm having trouble with x, y, z. Let's just go around the horn. Dylan, if you don't mind, I put you on the spot. Can you think of any of those pain points that keep coming up over and over again?
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. The biggest thing I see is they underestimate what it does take. I totally agree. Why I promote StreamYard to our clients and everyone I possibly can is because of the ease of use. People go into it and think shows are just like setting up the webcam, and they can be. Setting up the webcam and just talking. Right? There's a lot of back end stuff to this. These shows and I'm learning that as doing my own now. I'm like, holy cow, I'm about to hire fifteen people because this is absurd. But, yeah. I think that's the biggest thing that I see is underestimating it, but also at the same time, they overcomplicate it. They have to think (that) they have to have all these bells and whistles and seventeen thousand cameras and two million dollar microphones. It goes back to our first point of "just do it". It doesn't need to be overcomplicated, but understand going into it, there is some work that takes and understand that you do have to respect what it takes to put these on. At the same time, don't overcomplicate it. It's funny how people work. They overestimate or underestimate it, but then heavily overcomplicate it at the same time. I think that's the biggest one I see.
Brian Kelly:
I'm so glad you brought that up. I've said this so many times, people don't realize what goes on behind the scenes before the show even comes on live for that episode. The amount of time and effort. If you want to do a live show that's of quality and represent yourself and your brand in a way that you want it to be represented professionally. It takes a good amount of work for every single show. That's why I automated nearly every process (that) I use now. It took time to get there, but you can use a team. You can get a team. Like you said, Dylan, to also help out. For me, it's all about quality, and more time is spent before the show by far than the show itself. After the show is over, another good deal of time is spent. That is in the minor edits, the repurposing, the marketing, and everything else that goes beyond. The live show is this tiny window of time, and it's the fun is part of it by the way. When you have everything automated, the rest is not "not fun" because you're not doing it. It's all automated, but definitely great. Thank you for that. Julie, what has been some of the big p.. sorry to wake you up there. What have been some of the big pain points? You are wide awake. I just starttled you. You've seen over and over, I bet you've seen a bunch of them.
Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh. So many, you know, especially because I'm approving all of the comments that are coming into the group. I think one of the huge ones is that the hesitation of people who believe that they have to have everything perfect. That they have to have all of the backdrops, the overlays, the banners, the super expensive microphone, and the super expensive camera. That they have it. The room behind them is messy. They haven't thought about turning to just a blank wall because they're like, "well, then I don't have a fancy studio set up." They get to this point where they're trying to create perfection, and perfection is a fairy tale. It doesn't exist. There is no such thing as perfection. There is, again, where Dylan said the overcomplicating it. They've got to really just slow down and go, "what do I need to get this process going?" What is the minimum to make it happen? From there, then I can then build on it, and build on it each week. Go, "okay, I got live. I got the first one out. I got the jitters out. I hate the way I sound." When I had my agency, I would tell my clients. They'd be like, "I can't stand the way I sound." I'm like, nobody likes the way (that) they sound. There's actually, and I say this all the time, there's a term for it that is a term for not liking the sound of your own voice. I tell people, you have to get over that fear. They're like,"I don't look good on camera, I don't know how to be on camera." The other thing I tell people is to set up a fake Facebook group with nobody else in it but you. Go live in there a bunch of times and just get those jitters out. Get that feeling of pressing the button and going live. Then invite your husband in, your sister, your mother, or whoever. Somebody so that you're talking to somebody. From there, build up each time. As we said with the cameras, again, you can you can slowly build. You can slowly add in the overlays. You can slowly add in the backgrounds.
Brian Kelly:
My goodness! I absolutely love it. I have my own Facebook group that I use just for that. Nothing more. I go in there, and I test things for StreamYard and other things in there. I go live in there because there's no substitute for going live. We've got more buttons to click, and things kind of change their arrangement just a little bit in the window. If you practiced it 20 times without going live, then you go live you're going to go, "what the heck just happened?" I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. That was perfect. Perfect advice. I love that. We've got a comment coming in or two or three. Yeah. Kelly, crucial. Kruschel. Sorry if I got that wrong.
Dylan Shinholser:
Kelly Kruschel. It's Kruschel. She said she's on my team. She's a friend. Hey, we've got a supporter.
Brian Kelly:
Love it. Love it. Then Fran Jesse, I know her. I'm getting ready to make my first video essentially input. Yeah. Reach out, Fran. We're friends. I will give you assistance in any way you want because this is the greatest this is the greatest avenue for media on the planet, in my humble opinion, for so many reasons. One is people get to see you. I love clubhouse. It's also phenomenal in different ways, but people get to see you. They get to interact with you. They can engage with you, and they get to see your essence. It doesn't cost you, the studio owner, studio time. If you do this in the old days when you have to go to a television studio and you want to do a show, it would cost you thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars just to use the studio. Let alone get the media time to put it up on a television station. We're living in wonderful times. It's the greatest time to be alive, in my humble opinion. I'm a tech geek. I'm not young anymore. I'm fifty six, but I can't wait for the rest of what my life has to hold. Yes. You're welcome, Fran. Any time. Wonderful. Wonderful. Alright. Where were we? I got all messed up and loving myself there. We're going to have fun. I'm being real. This is like... I don't know. I'm the most relaxed (that) I've been in a long time with everything that went on today. It was one of those weird, everything-going crazy days. I feel like I'm at home with you guys. That's why.
Dylan Shinholser:
It's been one of those years.
Brian Kelly:
Thank God that last one is over.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, yeah. Sure.
Brian Kelly:
So, okay. Pain point. Let's go back around one more. Tim, what do you have?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah. When I first started doing this, my whole goal was to get out there and to talk to the different experts in the different areas of the challenges that my my clients face. I started off as an interview show and just using Zoom to record the video. Then all of a sudden I had the video. Now I had to put an intro in. I had to put an exit in. I had to extract the audio so I could do the podcast. My team members and myself were spinning our wheels. Just trying to really kind of create a workflow around the creation of this content so we could get the message out and help people with their challenges. For me, all of a sudden, the revelation was (that) I can do this live. I can have people type in (and) ask comments as I'm doing the show. Not only that, from start to finish, I can produce the whole thing going live. Right? You go live. You can play an intro now. You can throw in little commercial breaks. You can throw in the outro, and then it's done. Download the audio. You throw it up, and now you've got your podcast. You don't have to upload video to YouTube and Facebook and LinkedIn. It's done for you now, automatically. So really my biggest pain point was just the production side of things and putting everything together so that I could keep talking to people and doing the fun part. Right? I don't want to get caught up in all the details of making this. I want to talk to people, learn, and share that knowledge. Really, a lot of the pain point, just using StreamYard has really been absolved because it's a turn-key easy to use platform.
Brian Kelly:
Amen to all of that brother. Here's the key for everyone that's ever going to do a live show or has done one. The most important part is that you show up and you be the talent. That means you need to be dedicated mentally toward what the task is at hand. If I have too many things going on, like production-wise, which I used to when I didn't automate things. That's in the back of my mind. Did I dot every "i"? Did I cross every "t"? What's going to screw up on this show? Versus showing up fully for my guest. Being there for them. Getting out of myself and my own business and being present for the other person, that's what I'm about. Lifting up the other people, that's what my show's about. It's important to me.
Timothy McNeely:
Actually, if I can touch on that talent piece, Brian? I think he brought something up so important for everyone listening to this. If you're doing any kind of a show where you're interviewing people, chances are (that) the person you're talking to (is) a little bit uncomfortable. Your job, as the talent, is to spend some time before the show really crafting what it's going to look like. What direction are you going to go in? You want to make that person you're talking to look like a star. The more you can rehearse with them and put them at ease, you're going to end up with a much, much better show. Because you've taken a little bit of time to make sure that (the) other person is going to shine just as bright as you do. So, take that time to work with your guests beforehand through interview guides, through little questionnaires. So that you can help prep them, to keep them on a thread, and you can really help them deliver their message. Most people are not trained professional speakers. They just aren't. I've hired some of the best speaking coaches to help me develop messages, stay on topic, and learn how to tell stories. People don't invest time, energy, and effort to do that. You can help them do that through a briefing before you start your live with them.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. That's why I was saying before, I do a thirty-minute preshow. All of us were on here for 30 minutes getting to know each other, making sure all the tech was good, doing some checkout. You were talking about people being nervous and stuff. That's why I'm riding Christian so hard with all these jokes and stuff because it broke his nervousness. You can see his sweating. I am so kidding. This guy's raw. He's a rock. He's awesome. He's a pro. I love this guy, man. I always pick on the quiet ones. I don't know why that is. Christian, man, you're bringing massive value. All kidding aside, you're very experienced. You're matched for what you do. You've said already so many amazing things. What about you, brother?
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'd say this. I think a couple of the pain points. I think one is people want to ask, "how do I get better at my live stream?" I think (that) the first thing is practice. To Julie's point, I think you mentioned having overlays, backgrounds, and all this other stuff. Look at it like this. You want to show your audience as well while you're helping them. You're doing this with them. You have everything at the same time, and you're trying to make everything perfect. Your audience is going to be like, "I'm not going to stick around this person because they've done such a good job already. I won't ever get to that point". They start having that self-doubt. The key thing is going to be practice. You don't have to have every single one of the overlays. Maybe start with the the intro or the thumbnail, and maybe you have an outro for example. (Those are) the first two things you do. As you build the show, then you can add segment graphics. You can add videos. So, you can scale it, but you don't have to have so much at one time because then it's just too overwhelming. That's point number one. Pain point number two is that people, for some reason, think that they're going to immediately be able to monetize their live stream. I say pain point because everybody's like, "oh, I bought all that equipment." Now, you've got to figure out how to pay for all that equipment, you know? If you're struggling already with your business and growing it, then you're not going to immediately monetize live stream. You have to have an audience. You know, you have to build that community. When you go live, they're tuning in because (of) the social platforms. They want to see that you're bringing viewers, they want to see engagement. So, point number two is monetizing your live stream. There are ways to do that, but don't always set out with monetization being number one. It could take a couple of years to monetize. So, get started. Build on it, then make those investments as your business is growing. Yes, mic drop. Yes.
Dylan Shinholser:
Do you have that mic? Just a mic drop? Because I might need to get one.
Brian Kelly:
It's actually super.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, super real.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That's pretty cool, actually.
Julie Riley:
I like that.
Brian Kelly:
It's actually part of a magic trick that you put in a paper bag. It's a long story, but I found one more affordable that would not break my keyboard because that's what it landed on. You didn't hear it. Oh, my gosh. Golden nuggets there, as usual, from Christian who I give a lot of hard time to. I'm going to stop because you're amazing dude, and I don't want to get mad at me. I want you to be my friend. So many great things. So, you said two years. I was like, wow. I was watching an interview. How many of you have heard of Lewis Howes? Former professional football player and turned incredible entrepreneur. He's all over the place. He was being interviewed, and the guy interviewing him asked him a question. He said, "so, Lewis, if someone came to you, and they were talking about the fact they wanted to start a podcast. Now, we're talking just the audio version. That's what a podcast really is for everyone that may not know it's audio-only. Not video, even though they're going that way." He said, "well, here's what I'd tell them. First, you got to actually be consistent. Whenever you decide to do it, do it at that same day and that same time every week or multiple times a week. Whatever that happens to be. Number two, more importantly. You must commit yourself to doing that for at least, the magic number, two years. If they are not willing to do that, I would tell them, don't even get started." We didn't talk about monetization. None of that was discussed during this Q&A. That was telling. Who was I talking about this earlier with earlier today? It's not necessarily about monetizing. It's about building your platform, and I wanted to add to that. It took me in two years. I was just hitting that moment in time of my live show. That's when the momentum started. He was spot on, and so are you, Christian, about the two years. Then using a certain strategy (that) I use, I continually ask for referrals in a certain way. I eventually landed the one and only Les Brown. Some of you know who that is. Some of you don't. I've noticed some don't and Im like,"what rock are you living under?" He's amazing, and he's been on my show. Because of that, the two-year commitment is my point. Not talking about monetization. Then what I found after doing this for two years and striving for excellence all the time in every facet, I'm talking about the preshow communication with upcoming guests and the setup and the prep that they all go through and my system makes sure they do. The show itself and then after the show, all the post-production, everything that goes into it. Once you have that, people notice and my show, without my intending it to be, became an incredible, powerful lead magnet for my business. Focus, just as Christian was stating so properly, does definitely, positively impact your business. If you do it right. You do it high quality, and again, within reason within the resources you have. Go ahead, Christian.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I was going to say. That's another point that people look at, and they want to generate revenue off of it. That revenue may not be actual money upfront. It may end up being (help) (to) drive more leads to my website. It's not necessarily driving more people to my social channels. You're following is... It's OK. That's not going to necessarily grow your business because you had five more followers on Instagram or something like that. It's potentially getting them back to your website, which can be an opportunity for them to schedule a coaching call with you, maybe buy a product from you, learn from you for example. You're not going to get every single person to become a customer, but you're going to be able to use it to generate more leads.
Brian Kelly:
Totally, totally true.
Dylan Shinholser:
That's why I do it.
Brian Kelly:
You see on the top of this screen "streaming live on" and then five. We're doing it to eight right now or seven right now. "Listen-on" down below. On the bottom, there's actually twenty five of those like us could fit them all. Roku now was on Fire TV. Look, you're not making money from those, but here's what happened. How many of you have heard of Kevin Harrington? Shark Tank? Original Shark Tank? He has a partner named, "Seth Green", and they do a podcast together. They've been doing it for years now. They have five-hundred plus episodes. We got introduced, Seth and I. I met Kevin. We shared the stage once. I'm not name-dropping, but yes, I am. It was awesome, and it was fun. Seth reached out. We were connected by someone else. We were introduced, and Seth did his own homework. He came back, we literally talked on Zoom, and he says, "wow, I did some research. I looked you up and, my God, you're everywhere." I just wanted to say, "yeah, that's right." So, you want to get out there. That's why, shameless plug, I call it, "carpet bomb marketing". You saturate with everything you've got within reason. Right? If you can automate it, it can be near or completely free. So just do it. Why not add it to your arsenal? So, it works. Just be consistent to a minimum of two years. Get in touch with people like Julie, Christian, Tim, and Dylan. You might make that even quicker than two years. I'll direct you to the shortcuts that many of us did by trial and error.
Timothy McNeely:
Touching on the monetization piece, a good friend of mine runs one of the top coaching consultancies out there. Right. Very, very successful. Runs a great podcast, great show. I ask him one day. I said, "have you need any money doing your podcast?" He thought for a second. He says, "naw, I've actually lost money doing it. The relationships that I've made...I've made millions off (of) that." If you approach it from that standpoint... There's different goals, but I always approach, you know, what's the end result? What are you looking for out of your show? Why are you doing it? That's how you can measure the success of it. Is it helping you achieve whatever goals you set for yourself?
Brian Kelly:
Totally agree. It's very similar. Isn't it? To writing a book? I'm holding up another namedrop. Yes, it's very similar to writing your own book. Because a lot of people want to write a book and make a living off of the sales of the book. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, most of the time it just doesn't happen that way. If anyone comes up to you and you're talking to them... During the course of conversation, maybe you ask them what they've been up to? Or, hey, I've authored a book. The moment they say that, in your eyes, do they not lift up in an influence in your mind? Right then and there? Instantly. It builds authority. That's exactly what this live show, and live shows like it, are doing. When you're giving evidence of it by spitting it out to all of these platforms, there's no way people can't find you and know that you're serious. You know, it's showing that you have a commitment level. It's showing that you have a quality level of professionalism. It's not about the show itself. It's like, well, if I do business with that person, or will I... Will I want to do business that person? If they're professional. Yes. If they put on a shoddy show, they might give me shoddy service. If I do business with them. Does that make sense? People want to (be) representing yourself in the best. Do it the best you can, but do it. Please, don't delay. Don't try to be perfect. You heard everybody talk. Go ahead, Dylan. You had something?
Dylan Shinholser:
Well, yeah. There's indirect ways to make money with shows, live streams, and of course direct (ways). Right. Direct is selling sponsorships, ad-space, all that good stuff. The indirect monetization is so much more powerful. When I do shows or when I hop on shows or anything, it's literally just to build a top-down awareness of myself. I just want people to know what Dylan Shinholser is. Then that way, because I do multiple things, I'm never trying to sell one product at any given time. I'm trying to sell myself, and what it does is it gives me that outlet to do it. Then if you're hosting a show. Right? This maybe goes into some other topics around how to market and things like that. It's a powerful relationship tool because when you can open your platform to other people that you're looking to connect with. I'm in the business of working with influencers and throwing their events. Well, the best way to connect was get them on my show. It gave me a reason to reach out that wasn't pitchy or sales. It was more or less. Hey, man, I just want to give you an outlet, because I think what you talk about is cool. Tell my people about it. After the show, I was like, "hey, man, what are you doing next Tuesday? I need a speaker." Or "hey, man. I have some ideas (that) I want to pitch you or (some) things. They're more receptive. So, I always do shows and things not about the direct money I get, but the indirect thing. It's the indirect impact that I get from relationships, or people sharing my stuff out and people go, oh man, he sounds semi-intelligent unless they're watching this. Then then they'll go, okay, great. Let me go over to this platform that he runs with this business that he does or whatever because he sounded halfway intelligent on that show. Right? So, I think the indirect monetization is what most people don't... They don't get that the instant gratification of like that five thousand dollars sponsorship check. When I forgo that and go on to bring on much more money on the backend with the people I connect with, in the top influence that I get.
Brian Kelly:
The magic word there was "relationship".
Dylan Shinholser:
Relationships all day, every day. That's all I do- is build relationships, and how can I do it? Do more shows like this. Can I get it out? You're on like forty-two different podcast or outlets here, right? Every one of those. Every time you put a show on it, you're building a relationship with someone on that platform. Even if it's just you talking, and they're listening. You're building that relationship. Everything (that) I do, is built on: how can I develop relationships? Live streams is just an amazing way to do so.
Brian Kelly:
Posting them is one thing. Right? That's a great thing. What I learned through a podcasting expert friend of mine is the maybe not as equally important, but possibly greater importance, is getting on other people's shows. That includes audio podcasts only. He explained how his business skyrocketed when he did what he called, "podcast guest marathons". He would have someone get him booked in his team. He would carve out three days and just say get as many as you can for me. He'd do that. Then when they ask him about how to get in contact with him... This is the gold right here... It's not go to my Facebook page and look up my name and message me. He would tell them to go to his podcast website and from there to subscribe. Now he's building a following. It's genius. It's so genius. I just want to impart that. The cool thing, though, is when you're hosting a high-quality live show that opens the door for you to be a guest on many more.
Dylan Shinholser:
Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Being a guest is what goes back to the authority building. Right? If I can build my authority, I build my influence. If I do have something to sell... If I'm trying to build my brand or whatever it is or I'm just trying to get to as many people as possible to talk about events with them... That authority I call it, "authority hacking", being able to get them on your show. That'll get your show in front of their audience, and then going on to other shows helps you develop your authority. It's like writing a book. I was I'm a guest on this show, this show, this show. It's like writing a book. Your authority starts to become a little bit more when you're leveraging their influence. Right? When you're a guest on the show, if that show has a following, you becoming a guest on that show gives you authority because now you have the validation of the host that everyone is following and love. So, I can authority hack by getting on other people's shows.
Brian Kelly:
It leverges. You have a whole new tribe watching and interacting with you as well. I mean, this is one of the most powerful things people can use. If they just get out of that rut of trying to find a way to make money with it directly, that's when they'll see the real value come through. It's about building relationships. It's long-term. Not short, quick kill. I got to make a commission and run. It's build a relationship. Establish it. If you go into this with the mindset of it not being for directly making money, I personally think you have greater success. The long-term plays always work better than the short-term. Short-term works can work, but they're temporary. The long-term is a lot more permanent and lasting. Just think of all the wonderful bread crumbs you're leaving throughout the world. Through all the venues and platforms we've been talking about. In speaking terms, if you're on stage, that's what we call a "stage swap". Where you would be a guest on someone else's stage in return for them saying, "okay, but I'm going to do the opposite." We'll have you on our as well. The same thing with podcasts and live video. It works really great. Just make sure they're a fit.
Dylan Shinholser:
They've got to fit. (It's) got to makes sense.
Brian Kelly:
Both ways. Yeah.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I want to add something real quick to that. If you are consistently going live, so it's great to be consistent, go live on a regular basis, but also think about the long game. It's a couple of years, for example. Also, don't be afraid to be making changes and adjustments as things are moving along. It's not about substituting equipment. It's about looking at your process. For example, you mentioned Brian, that you have automation on some of the things. Think of smarter ways to take bigger jumps ahead. If I have to send someone an email, and I'm like, "hey, do you want to be on my show?" Then I have to deal with the whole back and forth. Well, okay. Yeah. What time? Then I have to send everything back. There are tools out there like Calendly, Harmonizely. You can send a calendar link to somebody and they can only book a certain slot for example and vice versa. This takes out the guesswork out of having to do all that back and forth. That's a way to work smarter because now you want to book people for your show. You send them one link. The person then doesn't have to send you a message back, and you can even use it to collect feedback for your show questions. There's not a lot of back-and-forth and downtime.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, absolutely. I do that as well, and it's a godsend. I could not do what I'm doing. I would not do what I'm doing without the automation part of it. I have an onboarding form. You guys all... Most, not all of you went through it, but that was a mini version. Julie, you went through the big version. I then changed it right after I saw that. Like you said, make adjustments. That's what I did. I'm constantly doing that. Improving. I have a document automatically generated in Google Docs with your bio. The answer you had to why you think you would bring value to the show. Also, all the questions you chose to be asked for the show. Some of you didn't see that. So everything's done. The Q&A part used to take hours and hours doing manually. Now I just give them thirty-eight questions. Choose ten, and we're good. You tick the box. You choose what I'm going to ask you. (I) just made it a system, and it has worked beautifully. I don't even use the ten questions hardly. I use maybe the first three. Then we go organically like we've been doing tonight. My God, it's six twenty-nine! Are you kidding me? I'm having too much fun. Real quick. I know everyone that came on in the beginning. You heard this thing about a prize. We're going to do that real quick, and we'll come back and wrap it up. For those of you watching, remember in the beginning I said, "take notes and don't go clicking away and stuff like that"? Now I think Dylan, Julie, Tim, and Christian will also give you permission to do what I'm saying, and that is take out your phone. Take your gaze away from us for just a moment, but you'll still have to look back. Yes, yes. You can do this too. Please, do. What I want you to do....
Dylan Shinholser:
I need a vacation.
This is how you can enter to win a five-night stay at a five-star luxury resort of your choosing. Here's what you do. Take out your message app on your phone. Fire that up- your text message app. Where you would type in the name of the person normally that you're going to text. Instead, put in this number: three, one, four, six, six five-they're all doing it behind the scenes- one, seven, six, seven. I love this. Three, one, four, six, six, five, one, seven, six, seven. If you're watching this and you're not a guest, go ahead and write this down because I gonna take the screen down. I want you to get it. This will be open until the end of the evening. Where you actually put in the message... Where you might put emojis, those kinds of things, not emojis, just two words separated by a dash or a hyphen. Those words are peak (P-E-A-K) dash Vacation (V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N). All together. No spaces. Peak vacation. Send it off, then monitor your phone. You're going to get an automated response back asking you for your email address, and that will then officially enter you into the contest. Compliments of The Big Insider Secrets. Our buddies, Jason Nash, the owner. Dear friend of mine who lets us give this away every single week. Every show, actually. We do more than one a week now on average. So go ahead, get that entered. I can't wait to see who's going to win that. You're going to be asked later, you don't have to if you're the winner, to provide your Facebook information. Just your profile so we can say congrats and give you a high-five online and get others to come watch the show. To be honest, that's another strategy. We're just rolling back the curtain. That's why we do it this way. You can offer incentives like that. My friend has offered that to anyone who is my friend. If you're not my friend, you don't get it. If you're on as part of the panel here, they're all my friends. Christian may differ on that opinion, but I think he's my friend.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm your friend. Yes.
Brian Kelly:
Ok, good. I picked on you so hard. I apologize, but you're just you're a fun guy. I appreciate you for putting up with it. I definitely do stuff like that. Implement it and announce it in the beginning. That helps retention. I'm just pulling back the curtain for everybody. You can do different things like that. Having multiple people, I noticed, is also a little better than just one every single time. So, mix it up now and then. Alright. I know we're a little bit over, but I want to give you each another chance for a final parting tip. Anything you want on live streaming. It could be hardware, software, how you smile, what bling you wear, don't wear, your makeup. I'm wearing some, by the way, just so the guys know. Yeah, I don't know what they call it. It's not like guy up.. guy-liner, but it's like makeup. I know. That was bad.
Dylan Shinholser:
I haven't heard of that one.
Brian Kelly:
I just did that. I'm not a young fart anymore. Anyway. So, Dylan, we'll do the same thing. Go around the horn. What would be one final quick tip, or parting words of advice, you can give our wonderful viewing and listening audience?
Dylan Shinholser:
Keep it simple stupid. Don't overcomplicate it. There's things that you need to do and standards you need to meet. At the end of the day, keep it simple stupid will allow you to not overcomplicated it (and) get overwhelmed. Once you get overwhelmed, it's a wash. I would just say as a life advice, event advice, live stream advice, just keep it simple stupid and keep it moving.
Brian Kelly:
Real quick, I got to interject on that. Just so people know that that comes from an acronym K.I.S.S. So we're not calling everybody stupid, for one.
Dylan Shinholser:
Well...
Brian Kelly:
That was great. I have a friend who is Sicilian in nature, and he did this from the stage. He talked about it, and he brought up the whole thing. We're talking about doing it without complicating it. He goes, "It's like K.I.S.S. Who knows what K.I.S.S means?" Someone raised their hands. They said, "keep it simple, stupid". He goes,"Oh, no, no. It's keep it simple Sicilian." He lighten the load of the stupid part. I thought that was cool. Sorry, Julie, what is your parting tip?
Julie Riley:
You know, you're going to have to get started at some point. In order to do that, you're going to have to get over your fear. Go practice. Get those done, but also go watch and find other people that you resonate with their live shows. Start to take pieces from each of those. Now, obviously, you cannot go copy their live show and recreate it. You can pull little things from multiple different people's live shows that you like and that resonate with you. If you're comfortable and things are resonating with you, you're going to exude that comfort and that confidence out to the rest of the world.
Brian Kelly:
I love it. I love it. Alright. The man, the myth, the legend, Timothy J. McNeely. What is your final parting word of advice?
Timothy McNeely:
I'm going to close with a story. The purpose of this story is to illustrate the power of doing a show. July 20th, 1969, the first man walked on the moon. He left his footprints up there. On the moon, there's no wind. There's no rain. There's no weather, and those footprints today in twenty twenty-one look exactly like they did in nineteen sixty-nine. They're going to be exactly the same a million years from now. You too. You leave footprints on the hearts and the minds of everyone that you come in contact with. In streaming and having a platform, that's your opportunity to leave your footprints and to have an impact on people. Get clear about what your message is. What's the impact you want to have? If you do that, all of the other puzzle pieces are going to fall in place for you.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, baby. Okay, I've got to do it. I've got to do it. That was amazing.
Dylan Shinholser:
You have to get one of the little lower third animation gifts that are possible here on StreamYard. It's just a mic drop every time someone does one.
Brian Kelly:
Not nearly as much fun though, bro.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That's true. Fair. Very fair. I'll give it to you. I've got to get me one of those little squishy microphones.
Brian Kelly:
A little sound effect like I just broke my desk or something. That would be good. Alright, Christian, you've had a long time to think about it now. No pressure, but this better be a good one. I'm kidding. What do you have?
Christian Karasiewicz:
Let's see. The best piece of advice, I think, would be don't have gas or gear acquisition syndrome. You're going to watch people doing their live streams, and they're going to go and be like, "hey, I got to get that mic because this person upgraded." Oh, they got a new webcam. Remember? If you develop a plan, the whole thing is work the plan.. work the system. It's great (that) somebody else got some equipment, but it doesn't mean that you need to go out and get that yourself as well. Remember, work your plan. When you get to the certain points, maybe set that as a milestone. If I get to a certain number of viewers, for example, or a certain number of subscribers on a channel, then I might need to upgrade something. Don't be buying stuff just because someone else is doing so.
Brian Kelly:
Sales drive service. I love it. You guys are amazing. Thank you so much for coming on. Everyone who watched live. Thank you for coming on. Those of you that watched on the recording. Thank you for spending your valuable time with us, and those listening on the podcast. The same goes for you. Definitely. I hope you took a lot of notes because these are experts in the field. They are giving their value, their heart, their experience. They only charged me two-hundred thousand dollars for it. It's really been a deal. I'm kidding. They charged me nothing. You got incredible value from these amazing, amazing professionals. I can't thank you all enough. I appreciate you Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. Thank you from the bottom of my heart with all seriousness. I know we had some fun tonight. Thank you, Christian, so much for letting me pick on you so hard. You've been a great guy. I look forward to getting to know each and every one of you at a deeper level. If you're open to that after tonight. Appreciate you all. On behalf of these amazing people, that's it. We're out. My name is Brian Kelly. I'm the host of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Until next time we will see you. Be blessed. So long for now.
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