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Welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. The three keys to your success is just moments away. Here's your host Brian Kelly.
Brian Kelly:
Hey! Hello everybody and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Hey how are you doing? I'm your host Brian Kelly and we have an amazing, amazing show for you tonight. Because, not because of me. Not because of me, but because of the gentleman you're about to meet. It's Carlos Redlich time tonight and you are going to be blown away by this young man's incredible talents and value he's going to bring to the show. I've met him several times. We'll talk about that more in the show. But right now let's set the table. What is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show all about? If you've not watched this show before, and you're curious what the heck is that all about, well, I'll tell you. The mind is all about the mindset. Mindset is about getting that powerful ingrained, programmed, positive mindset that will serve you each and every day. And there are beautiful tools that exist today. It's called The Science of Excellence. It's also known as Neurolinguistics Programming or NLP for short. Something that has literally changed my life and many lives of clients of mine as well. It's amazing. And then there's body. What does that mean? Well, like it says it's taking care of your body, both physically through exercise and through clean eating, nutrition, to fuel that body. So what I like to say is the mind and body are actually a team. And more importantly, the mind and body are your team. So, think about this. If you have a team, say five players. I like to use basketball. it's basketball season at the time of recording this. It's basketball season. And you have five players that play on the court at each at each moment and let's just assume one of those players did not do what they should've done in the summer months leading up to and they didn't get themselves in prime physical or maybe even mental shape. But let's say physical shape because that's the normal one people think of. Now the team goes out on the court and they're playing with four that are supremely fit and ready to go but one that just didn't do what he should have and wasn't prepared. What happens to the team as a whole when just one (signals one) team member isn't operating on a peak level of performance? You're all astute listeners and I get it and viewers. So, you understand the team will suffer. And the same is true with you if you are not operating at peak level of performance in both your mindset and in your physical body because you really can't have one without the other. And I know, I know you know what that means. And then there's business. Business so, we're talking about sales, marketing, team building, scaling, systematizing, all of those things. Now when you combine all three of these and you have made at least an attempt to master them, then you are approaching what I call a level of peak performance. And the thing is these three things: mind, body, business. Those came about as a result of many years of studying, of being with, of being trained by being mentored and coached by successful business people, successful entrepreneurs. And I noticed that there were patterns that kept coming up over and over and over of those who were successful and those patterns were those very three elements: the mind, the body, and business. They had mastered all three. And that's why they were so supremely successful. And so, that's why I formed this show. To help you with phenomenal guests like Carlos Redlich, who's coming on just a moment. To help you in any and maybe all of those three areas. It's kind of a generic or organic show, not pre-scripted. So we will cover whatever we cover but entrepreneurs, when we get together and talk. It's really fun. You're gonna love this show if you've not seen it before. Sit tight. You're in for a big ride. And thinking you know talking of mentors and coaches. I remember some time ago going back probably eight, nine, years ago a mentor flew me out to his office clear on the east coast I'm on the west coast had me picked up in a limousine, we had a deal to discuss. It was a very exciting time and I sat in his his very large office on the corner, CEO multimillionaire for two days we were negotiating and at one point he goes Brian we're just talking now I'm sitting on his couch. So imagine a couch a full-sized couch, in an office. It was a large office, it was nice. He said, "Brian if people only knew they just did this one thing (signals one) if they just did this one thing, they would all be super rich." And he kind of paused and I'm like "Come on. What is it?" And at that moment he just kind of coyly turned away, walked back behind him to a wall (points behind him) on that wall was a very large cabinet with two doors that would open floor to ceiling. And he turned around, looked back at me, opened both doors with both hands and revealed what looked very similar to what you see right behind me. And what it was was shelf after shelf after shelf of books. Now we're not talking just any kind of books. You get me right? It's not those. It's not fiction books. They are books that help propel you like self-help personal development, business books, investing books, scaling books, you name it, it was there. And I made a huge mistake that day. I decided not to take his advice because I thought, "Books? Come on. I don't know... they don't cost that much I go to a library and get those. So if I don't have skin in the game how could they be that valuable?" And many of you can relate to that if you're not paying for something. If you get something for free you tend to value it less, don't you? And so, it doesn't cost much you tend not to value it. That was my mistake. Thankfully, thankfully years and years later I met another young man who became another mentor of mine, very successful. And he basically said a similar thing. He said "Yeah. You will become extremely successful. More than just rich, you'll be successful." I was like "Oh ok." Well the thing with him was I got to see him actually do what he talked about doing, where he would walk around in the mornings. We worked together for several years wearing headphones and like, "Hey man What are you doing?" He goes, "You're always wearing headphones." He goes, "I'm listening to a book." "So what you can do that?" This is a while ago. And so I like how do you do that. And he said yes this app called Audible and I looked it up and then I started listening to books I said my gosh I love listening to books. I couldn't stand reading them because I would get fatigued reading physical words I'd get tired my eyes would start droop and like I can only do this for a few minutes before I start getting tired with Audible. I'm like oh my gosh this is great it opened up a whole new world. So I listened voraciously and read book after book after book is like oh this is awesome. And as I'm listening on Audible there's a little symbol on the app and I noticed that I said I wonder what that is. And I tapped it and bookmarked that very moment in the reading of the book like this is genius. So I started bookmarking all of the areas of books that had profound impact on me. Now I don't have to go back and read an entire whole book anymore. I can go back to review that book and actually just go to that one section that one bookmark or all of them in that book and go through the key elements and review in a very short order. And what I'd like to do with you tonight is share one of those on a segment that I call well you guessed it, Bookmarks.
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Brian Kelly:
Yes. ReachYourPeakLibrary.com Now for those of you watching right now maybe you're listening to the recording on a podcast. Please stick with us. Don't go running off and checking out resources like the Web sites ReachYourPeakLibrary.com. Just write that down for now. Stick with us. The reason is is because very soon Carlos is coming on and that's what you don't want to miss. So please stick with us. Write notes take notes. Get out a pad of paper. I personally I run this show. I do everything: I'm on camera, I'm come controlling the cameras, I'm controlling everything you see, and I still take notes. A lot of notes when the guest speaker comes on; especially then, because I always always tons of value Reach Your Peak Library what is that. That's just a Web site I put together for you. I kid you not. There is nothing here on this site that I put on purpose to make money for myself. So I just want to be clear about that. Here's the stories it's growing above there's a video I tell the entire story about going to that CEO's corner office.
Brian Kelly:
In that video or you can read the whole thing right there whichever you prefer. Here is the magic. Here's the gold. There are the books. There's about 40 of them in here. And what I did was I started compiling books that had an impact a positive impact on me. So not every book I've read is in here. And the beautiful thing about that is is now you can come to a resource where you can at least know at least one successful person has vetted this whole group of books. It doesn't guarantee you will have a profound impact on you as it did me but it does increase the probability of that happening if that makes sense. So what I'd like to do is actually go to one of the books I have read and bring up a bookmark for you to listen to and this bookmark I found to be relevant to our guest speaker who's coming on because it has to do with selling and our guest speaker is a master at selling and you'll find out in what exact way he he's a master at selling it in just a moment.
Brian Kelly:
So what I want to do is place. It's only a minute in length. Listen to it take notes and then right after this I promise we bring on the man the myth the legend himself. All right. Here we go. Sit back take notes and listen closely.
Grant Cardone:
Many sales people who I've met who otherwise could have been great salespeople and have unfortunately been corrupted by those around them and and been led to believe that they should rely on trickery and deception. But you don't have to trick or deceive to sell. You have to be willing to serve. You have to be willing to help people before you ever truly get consistent closing more sales the more you're able to demonstrate that service oriented attitude the easier you will find your job to be. And trust me no matter how much you serve someone you'll still have to be prepared to ask will that be cash check or a credit card because service alone will not separate people from money. Trust me service is the only way to higher prices. Service is the only way to less competition. A salesperson caught in a constant price conflict will never agree with my point because they are stuck in price is their only solution.
Brian Kelly:
That is pure gold right there and you can't see them. But Carlos is often the wings nodding so emphatically I think he might have hurt his neck because he was a green wholeheartedly to everything just said it. It's all about what it comes down to. This is why I thought of this being perfect for Carlos because he talks about the keyword of service. I've met Carlos several times now. We'll talk more about that after I bring him on. This man is all about service and you know what. Instead of just telling you about him, why don't we bring him on? Would you like to meet this guy? I think it's time to bring on the special guest in our guest expert spotlight. Let's do that right now, shall we?
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It's time for the guest expert spotlight: Savvy, Skillful, Professional, Adept, Trained, Big League, Qualified.
Brian Kelly:
And there he is ladies and gentlemen. It is the man, the myth, the legend: Mr. Carlos Redlich. And before. Before I bring him on and let him start spewing his beautiful magic dust all over you of value. I want to do a quick introduction if that's OK with you Carlos just going to nod your head because you're not allowed to talk yet. I'm just kidding. And so Carlos, he's become a friend of mine. He is a highly sought after direct response copywriter and marketing consultant. Take notes. Take notes. You want Carlos Redlich R-E-D-L-I-C-H in your camp. He's worked with all levels of entrepreneurs from six figure startups to nine figure mamas. I hope you're taking notes now as he travels the world and learns about new cultures. Carlos his primary mission is to deliver as much value as possible. He knows to be true to his fellow marketers and copywriters in an authentic and straight forward manner. Now before I really bring him on, there's one reminder real quick for all of you watching live right now. You have the opportunity to go on a five night vacation.
Brian Kelly:
Five night vacation stay in a five star resort. There's a lot of fives in there. In Mexico. Mexico and that is all done because of our beautiful sponsors from Powertexting.com. My wonderful friends Jason and Lana from powertexting.com have offered this as a sponsorship. So it is a legitimate beautiful resort that you can go to. Jason, himself, has gone to test it out and so stick on to the very end of the show I'll tell you how you can enter to win. We always give away a trip every single show. So hang on with us till the very end. Now it's time finally for Brian to stop blabbing so doggone much and ask that first question, so we can get Carlos on here. Carlos, my buddy, that was-- I love the bio, by the way; it tells a lot. I love how it shows that you have had success. You worked with some pretty big players in the marketplace and that's all wonderful. Can we dig a little deeper and get more into the person of Carlos Redlich and maybe you know so we all sleep and we all get up out of bed. We hope every day and we hope and usually we do. We open our eyes but at that moment, what is it that really motivates you to spring up and start hitting the day right from the get go because I know that's the way you are you're an energized or you just built with energy. What is it that actually motivates you every single day and then along the same lines what are you up to like recently what's going on in your life?
Carlos Redlich:
Definitely. Well first off I really appreciate you having me on the show. It's an honor. I've been looking forward to being on here for the last two or three months or something so I'm super excited super thankful to be on. So I just want to say thank you for that. But. You know what it's so funny when you ask what gets me out of that it gets me out of bed now is different and what got me out of bed just a few years ago. A few years ago I was really broke. I mean really. It sounds common because I feel like most people who you know made some cash online or whatever at one point were really broke and that just tends to be the story. But it's true. I was really broke. I was I was on food stamps that we had our water cut off our electricity cut off and I of stealing water from my neighbors. I hated this. I felt like less of a man. I mean here I am with my girlfriend. We're starting this business together, we have a house, and all of this stuff, and I told her I'm an entrepreneur. I'm going to win. I'm going to do all this stuff, and it just didn't end up happening. And so that actually I felt super humiliated the fact that I had to go steal water and all this stuff. So the reason I bring that up is because what got me out of bed originally was the fact that I just had to pay my bills and I didn't want to look at my girlfriend in the face and feel like a liar say, "Hey I'm going to do something. I'm going to win and I'm going to. I'm going to bring home this money for us." And then it just wasn't happening I felt like just another liar. And you know there's plenty of them out there I don't want to be one. So what motivated me in the beginning was it as soon as my eyes woke up whether that was at 4:00 a.m. to go to the bathroom or 8 a.m. or whatever. I've never had an alarm clock at least not as an entrepreneur. And but I've always woken up early 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning as soon as my eyes woke up. The first thing that was on my mind back then was I can't afford my bills right now. And so that stress and that feeling of pain just pushed me to wake up because I didn't feel like I should be sleeping right now because now I'm thinking of now that I'm awake is, "How do I make money? How do I make money?" So those habits though really helped me I think. If I wouldn't have gone through that I don't think I would have developed the habit of just getting up and getting to work. I would have been more you know mosey into LA. You know let me push the alarm clock or let me just lose the alarm clock or I probably would have had those habits because I wouldn't have had I would have been forced to actually make things happen. So again to answer your question I guess a little bit more is. So let's start it with I guess my motivation back then was just hunger and the fact that I didn't want to be a loser. I didn't want to look at my girlfriend and be like, "Hey I was going to do this for a liar. I'm going to do this." and I just didn't do that.
Carlos Redlich:
And we're forced to just steal water and do all these things that just you know we're in America. At least I am and I shouldn't have to be that I should have this this work ethic that connect that I can apply to money and the fact that I wasn't able to acquire that money just killed them. That was the first thing that got me out. But nowadays it's actually very different. But I still have that same kind of mentality as soon as my eyes wake up I'm ready to go. My my mind just goes and I'm ready to start working I don't want to go back to sleep and it's because of all those years beforehand; it just kind of building that muscle of the sea as you wake up you get to work. So you wake up you get to work. So but nowadays I actually now that I'm you know winning to a degree just because I make tons more money than I did. But you know when you start seeing things working. You're not so stressed about paying your bills. Now you start trying to make an impact. Now you start trying to do things that are like man what are the things that wakes me up now is when I run campaigns when I run advertising to sell my online businesses and now that I start seeing results. It's addicting because I remember when I couldn't see any results and now I'm waking up having people pay me anywhere between the dollar to forty seven dollars whatever while I'm sleeping and that just became addicting. So as soon as I wake up now I'm ready to work but it's not from a stressed out fear based angle like it used to be it's more like I'm just going to be I want to keep like I want to keep this momentum going.
Brian Kelly:
Very cool. Very cool. I love that.
Carlos Redlich:
You have to get ready because that momentum figure that I was getting hot here.
Brian Kelly:
Some passion baby. That some passion. Already filling up my paper with notes because two powerful lessons in one right there. You had you have two motivators. You've got one in your life but you had another one in your life. One was what I call an Away Motivator, where you couldn't afford your bills so the motivation was to avoid staying in that position; not to so much to say yes I'm being pulled forward into it because everything's rocking and rolling and getting better, but more like, "Whoa I don't want that anymore because I really don't feel right. I don't feel you know my self integrity meter is kind of getting drained" and so many people can relate to this. Carlos, I appreciate you being so transparent about that because more often than not successful entrepreneurs have gone through something similar. There's always that struggle time some greater than others right? Some have gone all the way down, all the way down to the bottom. Don't have a home to wake up in but it's a very similar occurrence and it's sometimes often takes us to reach absolute bottom before we can start to ascend up. And it just comes out of pure raw need.
Carlos Redlich:
And then one thing just on that. I don't mean to cut you off but just know what that I think a lot of people used to make and I still do this and a lot of people still make fun of me for this, but even when I was dead broke and desperate the friend you brought it you kind of brought this up earlier about listening to the right stuff. I still do that. So I have great credit and bedrooms Cooley and Craig Ballantine. You name your favorite guru. I don't have to like them personally, but I just brought them on because I know it's better than whatever is going to happen to the outside world. So before. So as I wake up and I'm getting to work in the background I've either got my phone on. I have a I don't have audible I have a-- I look for something like that but it's same thing. So I either have something playing in the background from Grant card owner or the book that I'm reading now, it's called Relentless. That I love is it like this and I've actually read it or listen to it I guess. But I love re listening to it because whenever I feel like I'm in this low moment I just throw onto that book Relentless and it just gets me going.
Carlos Redlich:
I might get back in the game. You know what I mean? So anyways I just want to kind of plug that that a lot of people don't take that for you know a lot of you don't really keep them consideration plugging your ears in your brain with real positive stuff is good. I mean I could go on Tony Robbins all the time and some people made fun of me for it. Oh you're putting on 20 problems aren't you listen anything else I'm like, "Yeah I listen to Grant Cardone." But it's all going to be positive stuff. What else am I going to watch? You know talking about the constant life is to just less do what you look at the news the news is here's the plan. Here's everything's going to hell shift going I'm not saying don't watch the news but if that's the constant in life you have to actively push yourself to put good stuff into your system. You know what I mean.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. Good stuff. Is that what you said?
Carlos Redlich:
Yeah. Oh I don't know that the other words.
Brian Kelly:
That was so relentless. Do you recall the author on that?
Carlos Redlich:
Relentless was.. I can pull it up right now. Yes. Relentless Tim Grover I believe Tim Grover.
Brian Kelly:
And the reason I ask you to say that out loud is so that others watching and listening can write down these notes. I do this all the time. I don't know every book that was ever written nor does Carlos and when I hear of one that's someone else's look at him watch him when he talked about it. I'm getting that book. There's no question. And you know I also know Carlos a little bit. So that also helps a lot because he's vetted in my circle. But that was then you're tour. I love your tour because now things are rocking and rolling. I've been following you. I've been stalking you on Facebook and you know watching you as you bring on that beautiful gorgeous new vehicle that you got: the Corvette.
Carlos Redlich:
I got into the Corvette Club. Now you have the same circle. I finally leveled up.
Brian Kelly:
You are now officially my brother.
Carlos Redlich:
That's right. Corvette stepbrother. They keep that dude over there.
Brian Kelly:
Shameless plug. That's the bottle I'm drinking out of.
Carlos Redlich:
There. There we go.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. So beautiful. I love the tour because you know now you're now your motivation when you get up is pulling you out of bed, not pushing you out of bed and you're being drawn in and gone man. I can't wait. Like right now you're not home. You're all across the country in Florida.
Carlos Redlich:
Yeah and I'm here for like until February actually shit my call. I didn't realize. See, I've been in this whole like internet marketing thing for that long. Right. So from 25 to 32 whatever that is. Right. Seven years. I'm not good at math. Obviously I'm a good copywriter. It's either math or writing. I'm a writer. So but it's anyways. I do want to get you off topic; sorry about that.
Brian Kelly:
No worries. I was actually going to bring it up. You know that is a level of success that many don't have not achieved and that is you know I want to go head over to Florida and I saw you had a picture of you sitting in your Corvette and thinking, "Oh my gosh. He didn't just put all those miles on that brand new beauty did he?" And we were talking right before the show and is said, "Oh no. I had it shipped out." I was like. There you go baby.
Carlos Redlich:
Yeah. It's a little funny a lot of people. I just didn't realize this is so this is so funny. To me, it's funny. So I was in an Uber and I was waiting for my car to get shipped and I was picking at so that Uber was taking it to where the car was shipped. And I was getting there and this person was I also you know did you ship your or did you drive down because I told them I was from Arizona I was like, "No actually just ship my car. It's actually over here or you drop me off." and. And she was like "Oh you're one of those rich people, huh?" That was like so direct. I was like "I'm one of those rich people?" There are tons of people richer than me. I didn't realize but you know what that what that actually got me thinking you know we do stuff as when you have that that freedom lifestyle I guess you're able to earn enough money you're able to live life on your terms and do all that. Well it almost sounds like a dream because it wasn't like that right now. But now we can kind of do little things like that like ship your car or my girlfriend and we're like well we want to go visit our family for Thanksgiving and Christmas. We don't want to go there for Thanksgiving. Fly back to Arizona, fly back to Florida for Christmas.
Carlos Redlich:
Fly back to Arizona. So we just stay there from like beginning in November so until I don't know February 1st or 2nd and then in the meantime why don't we go to Europe. We booked a trip to Europe for a little over a week. We're going to go to Rome in Barcelona. It was all impromptu, but to me, that's not weird. It sounds we're talking about it now but it's not weird because I'm not the only one doing this. Most people that you and I know actually live a very similar life. One of our friends, Brian Dixon, takes like 30 day impromptu vacations to different countries. I mean he's he's one of my heroes. So it's actually it's funny once you start doing this type of stuff and you get into the right circle where everyone else is trying to level each other up. What seems so crazy to the normal person is normal to this circle of people. I don't know if that makes sense but I always thought that was funny.
Brian Kelly:
Well it did to me. And that's all that matters. No, I'm kidding. But. Good timing right. When you're drinking something. Well yeah. You hit on so many points right there because all of this circle of entrepreneurs, we've all figured out how to scale our businesses as one. We've surrounded ourselves with mentors and coaches. That's the other. So you have that support system and it just fosters a an environment of abundance rather than scarcity. Even before you reach that point because that's what really takes everyone over the top is developing that mindset. Look at that first word up in the title right up there Mindset that is the key. That's the cornerstone. That is the foundation of success. I kid you not and I used to resist that for years. Come on. It's a bunch of woo woo stuff. You know affirmations and hypnosis and then helping on what is all this weird stuff. It's like it's magic is what it is and it's a proven science. All of it. And so yeah that's stuff you're saying. I'm just thinking about those are the reasons why it's normal for a group like us because that's how we've fought. You know that's how we developed ourselves and it's about development like you're talking about you're listening to books every time you go somewhere. That's what I do. It's always in the car. What else are you going to do in the car besides maybe listen to music. There's zero productivity. You're wasting that. We're not really wasting it, but you didn't realize that that's time you could be using to be productive. And once that happened like oh you know that the sky opened up and I'm like "This is phenomenal." In that bookmark icon, there's a car mode and they make it bigger so you're you're still safe and you go back and not miss it while you're driving. It's phenomenal.
Carlos Redlich:
That's awesome. You know our our mutual friend, Jeff Fagan, has a pretty-- I'm actually going to screw what he says because he says it way better than I do. I've learned a lot from Jeff; he's a great guy and one of the things is you know in business you've obviously got to be in the right vehicle. Right so let's say that's an online business or something that for some time that you can scale easily or it's a right it's a good vehicle for business. Right. But then the other part is you have to be the right you. You can't have an amazing business model and have a crappy you inside and buy a crappy you that needs a person who's always thinking what they start is going to fail. Having issues about selling somebody when you if you are offering something good there's no reason why you should be ashamed selling stuff right. But a lot of times we just tap these mental blocks that screw us up. And so it's so true that the mental part having the right you is critical to your success because in any business that happens whether it's a brick and mortar business like the gyms I used to own. I was paying ten thousand dollars a month in rent. I know what that business is like or if it's like all my business where my overhead is like less than a thousand bucks a month. Because it's just all online stuff.
Carlos Redlich:
Whatever it is you're going to have stumbling blocks and there's going to be something that screws up. When I had my gym I didn't know how to market so I put flyers and road signs all over the place and then I had a roadblock. A cop came and said that was illegal and told me I wasn't going to do that so I got a ticket and I said oh no that's a failure. But instead of looking at as a failure because I had a friend of mine who was like, "Oh no! That's a failure! You guys don't know. You have no way to know." It was like the end of the world. And then in my head, I'm like, "Well maybe we just have to put a Google number so they can't track it back to us or something." I was starting to think you source you know what I mean? So having that mindset of-- Listen, it's going to happen. It's just a question of how it's going to happen. And I don't know how I'm going to get there but I will get there. And if you just have that kind of just commitment and you know that goes a long way. It almost-- It doesn't matter what you do because there's so many ways to make money. If that hurt. If you have the right mind you just throw that person in anything. They're gonna be great. It's like a natural in sports. You never know. I mean my buddy here he's always a natural growing up. He was great at basketball, great football, great at baseball, great at everything. So I mean it's just like it's all transferable man. It's all transferable.
Brian Kelly:
Love it. I was taking more notes and yeah..
Carlos Redlich:
I go on off on these tangents man. So you got to stop me sometime. Yo smack me across the face
Brian Kelly:
If I believe value is coming out in which it was in droves. And you know like I said this is an organic show we just talk and this is what you and I would do. We were doing before the show, weren't we? We were having this very similar discussion. And you. And by the way somebody watching looking at Carlos. He had the same level of passion and energy off camera as he does right now on; he is the same in person that you'll see here. I kid you not.
Carlos Redlich:
Well I just want you know too. If you ever see this, I get pumped up. I like I literally get it. I always start sweating and I had a buddy of mine Luke Grant. I mean he speaks for Tony Robbins and has all these cool things. An amazing speaker. Well he told me because I was I need to be really kind of nervous about something. Why do I sweat? I'm not even nervous, but I'm just drenched in sweat because I do this because you're passionate.
Carlos Redlich:
Yeah you just get it. You're passionate. So you're passionate and you're into it. You're going to naturally you're going to get hot and excited and ready and so you're going to start sweating. That's a good sign. Look when I get up on stage now, it's again going back to the mental thing said stayed up and be like "Oh no. I'm sweating. I'm a failure now." I go, "Oh I'm sweating now and getting started.".
Brian Kelly:
There you go. That's what we call in an NLP, a reframe when you start off of the negative frame then reframe it, twisted into something that will serve you even better. You talked about commitment level. You know so many people think once you reach a certain level of success and then get higher and higher and higher your problems become less and less and less. And that's so far from the truth, they get-- they go just right with the level of success more and more issues. The key is because of the person like Carlos. You're constantly growing and recognizing and understanding that the key is not what happens. It's how you react to what happens. And it's your flexibility. And these are learned traits; everybody can learn these. No one was born with all these gifts. Carlos was not born with these. You heard him. If he was, he wouldn't be stealing water of his neighbors. It wouldn't have happened, if he was born with all these gifts. So you can. That's the good news. That's a good news story. That's what I'm trying to impart upon what our viewers and listeners that you know continue on with the fearlessness because you're able to, because you've done the homework, you've put in the blood, sweat, and tears. No pun intended on the sweat.
Brian Kelly:
So all you need is what I would call a passion towel and carry it with you wherever you go.
Carlos Redlich:
That's so true man. That's so true. I love it so sweet.
Brian Kelly:
All right. So I want to-- You hit on a lot of topics already and that's why I just let this guy go. He's spewing gold.
Brian Kelly:
If we shift it over a little bit just briefly into the body aspect and I know that you have been a physical person when you're doing the martial arts and all that. That takes a lot of physical fitness. But now going to where you're now sitting most of the time probably in a seat when you're on a laptop. How important now is physical fitness to your business and to your personal life?
Carlos Redlich:
Well it's huge in every way. It's huge in every way right. So I will explain it in a few. So before, when I was doing a martial art training, I was in way better shape because I had a martial arts school so that's literally all I did was martial arts and training. When I stopped doing that I went fully online. You're right. I was like, "Oh man I'm like Tubby over here. I'm not even working out. I'm barely walking doing anything." And for years I didn't even think it affected me. I just.. I just whatever I didn't even wasn't even conscious of it, right. But then I went for a hike and I realized that after that hike I felt amazing.
Carlos Redlich:
It was as if I had done my martial art classes when I was a kid and that I was just working out I would have this big smile on my face and have more energy and I'd want to go out and I want to do all these things. And I forgot what that was like because I just hadn't worked out so long. I forget you. You forgot to get those little boost in energy and so now. Well right now I don't do it as much I just I just went to a martial art training camp. My buddy has a martial arts school so I go there and train here on my own when I visit but when I'm in Arizona which is really where the majority of my time is I there's a a mountain bike less than a mile away from me and so my girlfriend typically night we go there every morning around 5:00 6:00 in the morning walk five thirty six in the morning and we go over there and hike and it's like a 20 30 minute hike a little bit more than a mile. There's nothing crazy but it's got a little hill was going up and down and it's just really great and it gives me an awesome workout I've lost a bunch of weight doing it for what it does is it's kind of like that kick start. So what I end up doing is I wake up. I do a little bit of work.
Carlos Redlich:
When I say work, it's almost-- it's not writing copy, it's like replying to e-mails, or putting out offers; meeting putting out offers to make money. Maybe that's on Facebook, Instagram or Facebook or Instagram or paid advertising or something. I'm doing that and I do that within the first 30 minutes of waking up. It's got to be something to produce income. That's the first thing. My first priority, make money. And then after that 30 or 40 minutes I go on my little hike and it's still early enough. I do my hike and that's just, again, that just sets me up for success because now I'm already I've completed something that could possibly make me money. Now I've completed something that's made me feel like I overcame something I mean I'm always tired when I come back from that mountain hike and so I feel great that I completed it and then I go and kick ass for the rest of the day and I feel great because I got my workout in and it's money producing stuff. And so the way it's affected me is just like that. It actually it kind of gives me that extra momentum; it builds on my first win which was just doing that first 30 minutes of sending out offers, whatever income producing activity I'm doing. And then it builds on that momentum by stacking on another win which is the physical body which is just going on that hike. And personally I mean that's just makes me a happier person.
Carlos Redlich:
And I just have more energy I literally can go out more and do more things. I mean my girlfriend I'm like we just want to go do more things because now I just have more energy. So it's pretty straightforward. I mean once you start becoming more active you just-- you naturally in my opinion you almost become a better producer of whatever it is you feel like doing. You're just more of a go get it type of person. My buddy-- Who said it? We tend to remember his name now. Joseph. I just when I met him you know we all meet each other online. But I just met him in person here in Arizona. I forget his last name. I wish you guys brought back is a really cool dude but he's a very wealthy guy eight figure person. He said that he's done studies. I don't know how. I mean I don't know where these studies come from but this according to him that people who go on morning hikes are generally of a higher income level than people don't lie to me. But he said those type of people are generally happier and more productive so they tend to make more money and they go on hikes. That's so. So there's actually a real according to him there's like a direct relationship between people who make a lot of money and people who workout or go on hikes in this case cycle.
Brian Kelly:
And think about all the underlying reasons that they are doing a hike in the morning is because they developed the mindset that puts them in that frame of mind to do that because who is going to get up and say I want to go out and do physical activity right when they get up. Very few people.
Carlos Redlich:
That's so funny you say that. Now that brings me to another example: I drove my my Corvette. CEOs six to that park. And it was so funny because a guy talking about people who are successful. Another Internet marketer was there and it's a sick ride. Oh thank you. You know we just start talking say so what do you do. And I just follow he goes we don't know what an internet marketer is. So Mike for like civilians for the normal people I just say I just sell a bunch of stuff on and he's like "Oh man using like click funnels or Shopify." Oh this guy's in the know. And apparently he's a click funniest person and does all these things and he's like 10 minutes away from me from where I live. And we had a net hiking and he and he had his wife and myself went on a little hike, and top business, top analysts at each other our Facebook is super cool.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. So if you want to network with successful people, get your butt outside and start walking, start hiking
Carlos Redlich:
That's right! Go on a hike.
Brian Kelly:
It's interesting you bring that up because what you just described is really universal. I told a story once about a buddy of mine I used to work at a corporate job where I had to drive over two hours almost three hours to get to my job location. So I ended up staying at a really close friend's house for two nights a week. And so we ended up working out together in the evenings. But that drive and then the toll of ten eight ten twelve hour workdays really took its toll.
Brian Kelly:
And there'll be times at night where he's like you ready to go work out. I was like, "Oh man I'm just so so tired man. Not tonight." And he did the best thing a friend could ever do a guy talking to another guy. He said Come on you wuss.
Carlos Redlich:
That's right. He made you do it.
Brian Kelly:
And so you're not gonna back down to that, right Carlos? No guy would like. Ok, I gotta go now. I'm not going to be a wuss and so I go in you know your dress you change your dreading every moment you go through. You start working out and then you start to feel a little bit better. And the interesting thing is by the time we finished, I felt amazing. And this happened many times not just once. Every single time without fail no matter how tired I was. And then a past guest just recently Brigitta Hoeferie came on and she said that she's she's very avid into fitness as well and she said she was really sick at one point and she just said, "You know what? I'm just gonna go and work out anyway." Probably not good for other people because I'm touching the equipment stuff. But she did and she said when she was done, she felt great.
Brian Kelly:
And it's amazing. I'm not saying, by the way please disclaimer; if you're ill, please don't just go out and say Bryan said I'd get well if I go work out. It's just a mindset thing and it does that. It lifts you up. The mind and body are a team. So mind, body, and business together as Carlos is doing. He's hiking, he'll get up. He'll take care of business. He hikes. He comes back takes care of business; he's got his body going, his mind is definitely going because that's helping his mind when he gets out in the fresh air and he's hiking. It's all a beautiful beautiful cycle. All you have to do is plug it into your life. That's it. Follow the patterns of successful people and start living the life. It's not gonna happen overnight. Get started now. If you're not there already.
Carlos Redlich:
One of the things since I plug myself in and we're all we're both talking about playing yourself with all these great you know like Tony Robbins all these great speakers other people can actually influence you in a positive way. And that helps so much man that there's really nothing that can stop you as long as you've got that point. You can do pretty much anything as well. I mean it's you may not succeed at the first time but that unstoppable mentality which again going back to that book Relentless this huge a relentless free flow for timber over I guess no reason.
Brian Kelly:
I'm going to read it definitely on my list. I have a couple of credits on Amazon and Audible, so I'm in there yet. Let's change gears a little bit more let's actually now venture into a business which is right there and this is always a very very interesting topic and subject because I've seen so many speakers on stage at seminars; even on webinars, talk about how important it is to be a good marketer and that you must be a successful marketer. I mean think about it. Marketing is the lifeblood of a business. If you don't have good marketing, there's no reason to be. You don't have a business. You won't be.
Brian Kelly:
And the thing is though I see person after person describe that you must be good at marketing but they never seem to give tangible examples of exactly what kinds of things they do. And I get it. It's a big wide diverse monumental amount of different things you want to hit in marketing you've got to start somewhere. So when it comes to marketing your business, Carlos, what would you say to date. I won't put you on the spot for all of it. But what has been your most successful form of marketing to date for your business?
Carlos Redlich:
Well I guess I'm on a high scale direct response marketing over brand marketing to start my brand stuff is usually filled by having a solid direct response base.
Carlos Redlich:
So the reason I say that is because most people I think would expect me to say, "Oh, you have to have this really great Web site, or you have to have these amazing business cards, and you have to have this really cool video that positions you as this." When you don't really need that what you need is a killer offer. So when the things that I mean it was a quick win actually I put together. I talked to my buddy Gallop, Gallop Bill. He gave me the idea. I didn't want to put together like five thousand dollars seventy five hundred hour offer or something and make it look it done for you. He helped me outline what I want to do and he's like just just pitch it go sell it you know what are you waiting for. Because I was in my own head and this is what's so great about having friends who are successful and other people who are in the entrepreneurial world. This is just like a quick stock with a buddy who is like a one hour 45 minute talk and we just had this whole thing. And so the reason I bring that up is because we made like 40 grand and three or four days or something just like a quick launch is like a four or five posts that I did on Facebook very simple but it was just because we had a really great offer and it was under ten thousand dollars so most people had that and it just worked so hard to give any real tangible advice it to make it appeal to everybody here.
Carlos Redlich:
We want takeaway is that even if you're not a good copywriter, that's totally ok. You don't have to necessarily be a great copywriter to make money. You have to have is an amazing offer and that's what my buddy gallant helped me do I need to create a good offer. So we brainstorm put together a solid offer. And that was it. I literally just made the offer to people. I wrote the sales page in a couple hours instead of weeks. You know what I mean. And the copy was so so but the offer was so killer it turned people on the buyers. So if you're not a great copywriter yet that's OK. Learn the fundamentals, learn some formulas do all that. Tons of free stuff on YouTube so you but work on your offer because if you have an irresistible offer something that's a no brainer decision.
Carlos Redlich:
It's as if here is a Rolls Royce that's only four hundred thousand dollars you can have a thousand dollars something ridiculous. That's a no brainer a deal. That's what you want to work. I work on offers that are just no brainers. And that's how you can start seeing success quickly once you start having money coming in. Once you see that cash flow coming. That's when I suggest hey let's invest a little bit into building the brand. Let's do some cool pictures or do a cool mastermind or do some videos. But the last thing in my opinion that you want to do is invest in all of that branding without even having any money to show for it just yet because you don't know the whole thing is going to work. Way better to get that money. Learn how to sell learn the pain points of your audience so that when you build your brand it's around real stats not stuff you just kind of guessing and hoping and like I hope people love my brand enough to buy from me rather than hey we've gotten sales from this particular audience and this is how they react let's build our brand based on how these people are.
Brian Kelly:
hmm. Very cool. So start with the offer and then the brand later because most places I've gone seminars and workshops train just the opposite. Build your brand shoot a bunch of videos. Yeah. Like you said get the logo business cards up please.
Carlos Redlich:
And I'm not a fan of it as much just because I mean I came from like I still think of it like practical in my head right. Because I used to pay 10 grand a month in rent. I remember the pain of the pain when I didn't have and going into debt and I needed that. So when I hear people say like that once it's helped me building a better brand once you've put ten grand within the next week into my bank account. It sales. I need to make sales and I need it. It's like I'm in a fucking dying. Can I curse? I'm so sorry. It's like I'm it's like I'm in a war and I'm getting shot up and I'm barely alive. I don't I mean I just need to get patched the hell up and med-evac of there like a comprehensive crazy surgery on the battlefield. A patch yourself up get the money in and then figure that other stuff out afterwards. But you got to get yourself gotta get yourself some money. So the thing about the focus on brand. If you have a broken six figures in your business, why are you even focusing on brand?
Brian Kelly:
So the good thing about this and this show and the people watching and listening is you know let's say you're not good yet at crafting that irresistible offer. Well guess what. The person I'm talking to right here next to me can help you and we'll give you his contact information at the end of the show. Or you could just google him. Carlos REDLICH You can see the spelling on the screen right now with R-E-D-L-I-C-H. Even though it's pronounced like a K, Redlich. So that's correct, yes?
Carlos Redlich:
You're the only person who's caught that without asking me beforehand. So I love that you're so smart. You're the only person who's ever done that.
Brian Kelly:
Being a being a show host, it's important for me to pronounce the guests properly their names and it's like Brigitta as her last name that was probably the best I've ever pronounced and I've practiced it literally. I practiced with her right before the show so it's just tools of the trade you know and then build a brand later, that was so-- It's very rare you hear this kind of thing. One quick question. I can't believe we're 10 minutes from being done buddy but one quick question if I may. So now you've crafted that irresistible offer you've written it. You have it. How do you get that in front of eyeballs specific like one. One specific example you probably have many, but what's one that one person if they're just starting out where would they start. I have the sheet of paper that I typed on or it's on my Microsoft Word document. Where do I take that so that people will see it and come and see the offer and buy it?
Carlos Redlich:
Great question. So I'll give you the first answer which is the free way to do it and then depending on where you are in your journey as an entrepreneur we can do the same way. But let's say you're really new which is what the example you use if you're totally new and nobody knows you. You don't have the money to spend on Facebook guys and all that stuff. That's totally fine. In fact the way I built my business was by getting on shows just like the one I'm on right now with you. And then people naturally reaching out to me to say hey I love what you said on so-and-so show. Want to know if you have a Web site or something or a shop. And that's really how I built my business because I didn't have the capabilities to just run a bunch of traffic and cross my fingers and hope it was going to work. So I had to do is partner up with people and I actually don't even have to partner up with them because they didn't ask for permission. So I would just say hey I see you have a big group of 40000 business owners. Would it be OK if you interviewed me on copywriting and then at the end you just tell people where they can find me on Facebook. And a lot of people are starving for content and these groups are the group owners are starving for content. And so when you do that you approach them in that way you're not pitching anybody. But in a sense you're just giving pure value and if anybody wants to buy from you. Then naturally, they'll look you up.
Carlos Redlich:
So that's the free market. Putting that on steroids would be doing it still free would be do the interview it would be a two step process first step would be do the interviews give pure value don't ask for anything in return just giving value doing all that stuff and then you go back a week later a month later or so and assume you've done a really great job and delivered on that interview they let the audience loved the host loved it then you come back and say hey would you be open to doing a joint venture with me where I split 40 percent of the profits or 50 percent of the profits of this new offer I've got I'd love to share it with you just to see if it is something you're even open to and a lot of times if you've already done an interview with the person and it's gone well they're already they already love you they already know you shoot them over the product give them access so it's all verified that they actually like the product and it's a very easy way to get joint venture deals and I start making money at least six figures. Jason Carroll made twenty five million dollars without ever running a frickin ad. It was all by doing joint venture webinars with each one presenting his offer in that way so he never paid a single dime. He just paid it to us. So that's one way. That's the freeway.
Brian Kelly:
And it's a phenomenal way. And remind me for you watching or listening in. Ken spawn if you're still on. You gave me the resource. There is a beautiful resource that you can go to to get yours your face and your name in front of podcasters and so you they will be looking for that content. All you have to do is put your name in this directory and it's escaping me at the moment. So if Ken doesn't come back on and comment just come in in the comments below. Whichever venue you're watching run seven platforms simultaneously right now and or face direct message me on Facebook and I'll get that information for you because it's a phenomenal resource and what you said about joint ventures. I know this to be true. I was talking to you about it before we started the show right before.
Brian Kelly:
How that is so true that I think I'd benefit more from this show than any guest or any viewer or listener from the standpoint of I didn't do it for that reason. But what's happening are the connections like you're talking about are solidified even tighter for those that had connection. Those I didn't really have a connection with. I now have. And we're all now like in the inner circle together. And yet amazing things have happened. I'm not going to give the details out of respect but I've had some amazing things come to my way without even having that intention. When I first started the show. And so what Carlos is saying is absolutely true. I just want to emphasize what you're saying. You don't have to do anything fancy like I'm doing here make that very clear. You can literally start with a podcast where there's no video and you're recording it off camera. You're not doing it live. You can edit it so you can make this very simple on yourself. So the key is just get started. And now if you have a little money to spend. I'll turn it back to Carlos because I think he was getting a segway into. OK now let's let's put up the flame and put some juice into this bad boy.
Carlos Redlich:
Definitely so. So then there's the paid ad version. So if paid ads I have discovered that if you're selling stuff that's fine. Now they even really like three thousand let's say a five thousand or ten thousand dollar offer or something and let's say again you're not the best cotton writer in the world or anything crazy. One of the easiest things to do is generate a phone lead and close them on the phone. Here's the kicker: When you're using paid advertising to get people on the phone generally they are lower quality which means you have to go through a bunch more to close the deal. That's totally fine though if you have a high ticket offer that's five thousand or ten thousand dollars because just think about it. If you have to get on the phone with 30 people before you close one five thousand dollar deal. Well was it worth it. Because you get 30 people or 30 phone calls done in a week. One that's five grand in a week. You just kind of have to gauge is that good or not you kind of work your numbers. But one of the one of the ways that I did it was by essentially placing my offer as a as a long form Facebook app. So if you don't, you have to have a Web site for this really you could just do what's called a lead was essentially a real life form as well as five steps just impromptu the right that long form app. So the reason I say long form is because in that ad you're going to basically tell him what the offer is for the most part. And then if they're interested, they're going to click on it.
Carlos Redlich:
They're going to put in their bill their name email telephone number and you're going to you know I suggest having like three pre qualifying questions like a do you know what a marketing funnel is know how much do you spend on advertising. How soon are you looking to get started with x y z business or some where they're just unqualified questions. But the point is that you're you're putting out a long form ad because if they read all that and then they fill in the info after answering three qualifying questions by the time they get on the phone they may not be the best me in the world. You've qualified them to a degree so you're not totally wasting your time. And when you can do that you can scale up. But again I'm not I'm not going to forget the five things I'm going to show you showing you the I said forum a friend Facebook has launched from Facebook. But as you start generating more leads. For example if you make five to five thousand dollars sales you now have a big chunk of money that you can reinvest in advertising and generate enough leads to now work. Now you bring on fellow closers that work on straight commission. There's tons of people who do this. There's just tons of them and they work on straight commission, so you don't actually have to pay a person on salary to close these phone deals as long as you have leads generated are populating their calendar.
Carlos Redlich:
They'll try to close them on the phone and that way you can replace yourself and there's no real other than if they close you know 20 percent is legal 50 percent a deal. Now going back to the five step formula for writing a long form app let's say you don't know how to write an ad or any of that stuff. It's totally fine as long as you follow these five steps. You'll have a very good chance of at least getting some kind of result with you're following the actual path of persuasion that makes people watch or learn more. So the first step is you want to ask a yes question for example love water. Yes I love water. Assuming you're talking to people who love water you have to have the targeting. Well let's say that's that that's the first step. Right. I'm selling a water bottle first thing would be in the and. This is a freestyle that's just approved the five steps to sell virtually anything. So the first step is a yes question love water. Yes OK. My story to relate well my story. So step two would be a story to relate I share what I'm going to do to make this easy. I'm going to say the five steps and then I'll give you an example. So the five steps. Step One is a Yes question. Step Two is a story surely. Step Three is a big AHA moment. Step Four is our yes. Step Four is suggest a possible solution and then Step Five is called action.
Carlos Redlich:
So yes question love water. Yes step two: a story to relate. I remember when I was buying all these water bottles that had this funny taste and for some reason every bottle that I got I'm making this up every bottle that I got just had this weird metallic taste right. That's Step Two. Step Three was the big AHA moment. But then something amazing happen I discovered Dasani water and every time I drink it I get cooler I get hydrated and I don't have that nasty metallic taste that all these other water bottles. Step Four suggests a possible solution. Now this water bottle was awesome. It's worked for me it's worked for millions of other people who love Dasani. Maybe it'll work for you. Now that's a really important because what that does is it makes them cross their fingers and hope it's for that. It's a little psychological trick there. That's why this is called action so to see if to sign is bottled water is perfect for you just click the button below and fill in your info and a representative will call you to see if it is good. Real simple face the guy you put that type of stuff out and you can generate leads and then close up.
Brian Kelly:
Love it, love it, love it so much more I mean we're one minute away from our normal quitting time but the beautiful thing about this this format in this venue is. I basically decide when we're done. And it's not completely on me, I want to give a shout out real quick to Regina Tula. She has been commenting like crazy on this show, providing great value some great questions and my buddy Ken Spawn came on and gave the answer.
Brian Kelly:
See if I can find it real quick. I'm scrolling through ice and let me look it up. There it is. So podguests.com podcast guests plural all together, no dashes, no spaces. Go there and that's where you can get on a directory to start making a name for yourself if you haven't already and it's another way to expand your name. I'm actually looking to do that myself. I look at every avenue and if my calendar is open then I do it. It doesn't matter if there's a slot open I go for it.
Brian Kelly:
The other resource I wanted to share because you talked about a commission based sales people same exact thing. I went in found one It's called Time to hire dot com and they provide for a flat fee. I think it's three hundred and maybe four hundred dollars one time fee they will connect you with a salesperson that's qualified to sell your service or product and I haven't taken it past that point yet to see what their commission levels are if they're you know I'm sure time time to hire I would guess time to hire might share in that I don't know. There might be a minimum but at least you can do a commission based only. All you then need to do is really supply them with a script and for all of this if you have any questions on resources like the script itself. Carlos can help you craft that I'm sure.
Brian Kelly:
I have another friend that can also add more English language expertise to it. Using an LP in a way that will make it even more. I mean I have resources coming out of everywhere and I would love to share them with you just private message me a Facebook message me get in contact with Carlos and get the conversation started and you know what. If you say well I don't have the money you've got to start the conversation. Regardless, it's all about saying yes it's all about taking action massive immediate and consistent action.
Brian Kelly:
I can't tell you and Carlos maybe you're the same where I've sat in those workshops back in the day and I could barely rub two pennies together. My credit card was maxed out. They said go to the back. It's only 10 grand. Go to the back and I'm like I need this I'm just gonna go back there and say yes and see what happens. And so when I started doing that it doesn't mean it works every single time but 90 plus percent of the time it has and I've worked out a deal and I have zero regrets. I have no regrets for a dime of what I spent over the years and I've spent a good amount of money investing in myself and that's something else. If you if you want to sell something even a high ticket item. But you're sure-- you yourself are not willing to buy a similarly priced high ticket item then you're never going to be able to sell that high ticket item. It's all about the mind. The neurology the psychology behind it, so get in the habit of saying yes whatever happen and we're not here to sell anything of you.
Brian Kelly:
We haven't offered anything for sale. Now if you were to call each of us individually and there is a resource we could offer you that requires our time and our expertise then yeah that will be a transaction necessary. It's just the way it works. So be ready. But reach on contact Carlos because you can tell. I mean the energy he's sweating like crazy because he's so passionate that's it that's a passion sweater right there. You could probably market that bro passion sweater.
Brian Kelly:
But you're always thinking about--.
Carlos Redlich:
Your next event.
Brian Kelly:
It's instead of never let them see you sweat, make them see you sweat. Be sure they see you sweat.
Carlos Redlich:
That's right.
Brian Kelly:
All right. There is one more question though that I want to get to I know in and then out of respect of everybody been watching that knows this is an hour we're going to go a little bit over. Hope you're okay with that too Carlos. I know it's late there in Florida. It's pushing nine thirty there I think. And there's one question that I just love to bring up. It's kind of a heavy hitting question and I've asked of every entrepreneur on it's been on this show and it's it's really it can be really deep. And so Carlos if it takes you a little bit of time to come up with the answer don't worry about the dead air time because it's worth it. We just-- we want to make sure you have what you feel is the right answer in tow and don't worry about it being right but oh before.
Brian Kelly:
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Brian Kelly:
So Carlos there's just this question is--.
Carlos Redlich:
You got me wondering what this question is. What is it?
Brian Kelly:
So I'm actually glad you started sweating before I brought it up because you know then I now I can know that I'm not the reason I didn't cause all the stress for you. Hey Traci Waller and Jeff Brodsky. How are you doing ?Thanks for coming on. Yeah. So it's a really really really big important question and the cool thing is. What I will reveal right now is no two people yet. I know it's coming but no two people yet have answered the same way and it to kind of take the pressure off Carlos. There is no such thing as a wrong answer. And to make to make it even more powerful. The only. Correct answer is your answer. So are you ready?
Carlos Redlich:
I'm ready to roll. Let's do this.
Brian Kelly:
All right here we go. He said you're ready. Carlos Redlich. How do you define success?
Carlos Redlich:
And it's such a simple question too. I thought it was going to be easy. The answer is a little tougher. How do I define success?
Carlos Redlich:
Relentless pursuit for what you want and not stopping until you get it. The pursuit is I think a success because most people just give up. And the beginning of their journey. I don't know if I was suppose to be more elaborate but that's pretty much it.
Carlos Redlich:
And having a ton of money to show for it.
Brian Kelly:
So the beautiful thing as I was a kind of a dramatic pause but I was writing notes.
Carlos Redlich:
The wisdom I could have apart of those must be longer.
Brian Kelly:
So true to form no one else has answered it that way. With that answer relentless pursuit.
So basically what you're saying is a commitment to discipline and commitment to be relentless during the journey, not just once you've reached a point where you feel you've made money. To coin that thing is a success. Is that correct?
Carlos Redlich:
100 percent. You don't like the whole life your whole life. Right. Like most people retire. And then die shortly after. I kind of think it's because they retire. You should just get up and work.
Brian Kelly:
It is. You hit the nail on the head.
Carlos Redlich:
So successful people I think just look at Warren Buffett. He doesn't need the money.
Brian Kelly:
You know it's interesting because you know I talk about retirement and I say I don't believe in it. I don't. What is retirement that's giving up. I mean for what purpose. So what are you going to do. I'm going to go golfing and fishing the things I love for the rest of your life. I mean a hobby is just that it's a hobby. You can't sustain that and feel like you have a purpose in life. If all you're doing is fulfilling yourself and that's just because we're wired to help and serve others. In my humble opinion and the thing is I'm a Christian. Nowhere in the Bible will you find any mention of the word retirement that was made up made up. Baby we were not designed to retire you work. You serve in whatever capacity you are able to let's just be clear. Maybe you've got physical ailments.
Brian Kelly:
Maybe the mind is 100 percent but you're always you know doing something serving others in any way you can. There's no such thing in my opinion as retirement like most people would think of it. It's a disease in my opinion that that has yet spread.
Carlos Redlich:
It's how you sell a job. It's my everything I've thought about this. I'm like well that's how you sell a job right. That's just sacrifice. He's only like 20 or 30 years. And then for the rest of the remaining amount of your life we'll pay for it and shit then you die five years later.
Brian Kelly:
And so you know a lot of people a lot of people say they're living the dream that you know they do it so they can live that dream of you know retirement where now they feel that they have it all. Well here's the here's the reality of it. I know many people who have gone through retirement who are in retirement now. The reality is once you retire guest do you make the same amount of money more money or less money than you were when you were working. Hint hint: Less by far. So you think that freedom is going gonna be there. Well maybe your house is paid off. Maybe the cards are paid off but the bills there are still bills and you still have to eat. You start to put gas in the car and so you know you don't have that unbelievable glorious liberating freedom that everyone thinks they're going to have when they retire. You'll be lucky to afford a round of golf once a week.
Carlos Redlich:
You know it's funny. As an Internet marketer, I've been called and my bride Brian Dixon is actually in our buddy actually Brian Dixon is a better example than I am of basically living your life semi retire because I am extremely passionate about what I do I work all day and all night I'm working right now and it's nine thirty at night you know what I mean most people would be like oh my gosh I clocked out at six I can't take another.
Carlos Redlich:
All right. But this is like I'm also on vacation and I'm also visiting a buddy of mine house I'm also doing all these. It's like you're semi retired like the rest of your life. Yeah I. So. I rather this right I actually enjoy doing this other that I wasn't doing this would I be doing as a normal person. I'm sitting on the couch drinking a beer watching the news. I'd rather do this.
Brian Kelly:
It's so true. Oh man.
Carlos Redlich:
That is so great moral. That's crazy. Do this again tomorrow because it's still spontaneous. You still have a mind expanding freaking discussions and shit. You're not going to get it anywhere else because of it.
Brian Kelly:
I love it. I love it. True true
Brian Kelly:
Very true. Sweet. I was just looking to see what we had for folks and oh I wanted to give another shout out. So Regina Tula. Thank you so much. After this is over go check this out. Carlos. She has like hung on every word and comment on every key point you've made. She's only getting better.
Carlos Redlich:
Thank you Regina.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah she's writing better notes than I am and I already-- I literally filled up my entire page. But she has more than I have because well I'm a little busy too but phenomenal. Thank you Regina. Thank you Ken for coming on and telling us that beautiful resource for the podcasting and for all the rest of you that came on to watch and listen to this. Go ahead. Be sure to enroll for that that five star luxury resort. I want to give it away. Come on let's bring it on I'll check it right after the show to see. Who I'm going to pick for the winner. We'll do it randomly and I can't wait to give you that announcement. And appreciate you for being on the show watching listening interacting. I love that about you know people that come on the show and comment ask questions give us likes and love. Appreciate all that. So Carlos thank you my friend. It's been a wonderful wonderful ride right.
Brian Kelly:
Yes. And appreciate you. I can't wait to see you again. You and I we shared the stage at one point at a fitness professional business workshop. That's it. We each got to speak at that. That's first time I met you I was like wow he's a copywriter. You handed out those copywriting books for free. Oh that guy knows that a market. I love what he's doing. And then I ran into you again at the millionaire mindset in in the mansion in Southern California and La Hoya I believe. No not La Hoya.
Carlos Redlich:
I think we met again in Paradise Valley in Arizona.
Brian Kelly:
No I didn't make it out to that one unfortunately.
Carlos Redlich:
No. I was sure it was in Laguna-- Laguna Hills.
Brian Kelly:
Thank you. That was it. The Castle and I was like looking oh there was like I know him. You were over by the side and yet Mr. Energy you weren't sweating so you weren't that passionate but.
Carlos Redlich:
That's because I hadn't talked to you yet.
Brian Kelly:
You and your beautiful girlfriend were there and yeah awesome. So I'm looking forward to running into you and you know crossing paths many more times in the future. And for those watching it's very important. What is the best way Carlos for them to get in touch with you? What is your primary contact point? Is it Facebook, email, phone? What's your preferred method?
Carlos Redlich:
Yet. The best way is actually just add me on Facebook or send me a private message on Facebook and tell me that you listen to this show. But let's connect through there. That's right the best way. And its just as he said. He was saying it's Carlos Redlich. R-E-D-L-I-C-H.
Brian Kelly:
And are there more than one of those on Facebook to your knowledge?
Carlos Redlich:
There are. There's actually a few. Here's a little secret. Whenever you get shut down by Facebook because your advertising is too aggressive, you just have to create a new profile. That's kind of what I've done. That's. I have like five of them. Just thinking you know the main one you know which one it is.
Brian Kelly:
Is there a specific profile picture that can go by. Are you leaning against your Corvette? Is that the one?
Carlos Redlich:
Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. No, it's a picture of me and my girlfriend, Tiffany. I'm wearing a jacket and she's wearing a green dress. All right.
Brian Kelly:
Let me see if I can pull it up real quick on the screen that way because I want to make sure there are no guests. There's nobody guessing on how to get a hold of you.
Carlos Redlich:
Oh you're awesome. I didn't even know you could put it on the screen like that.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. We have the technology baby. That's pretty sweet. It's just to make sure that I can find you. Oh yeah. There you are dressed to the night there. King Carlos. That you?
Carlos Redlich:
Yeah. That's me. All right.
Brian Kelly:
Let me pull that up. There we are. You can see the picture of Ken on the upper left. Yeah. There he is the big profile with him leaning against his Caesar C6 Corvette. That beauty that was at the mansion at the at the Castle. I remember that. So that's how you find Carlos type in Carlos Redlich. And then click on the message button and say Hey man I want to learn more about your copywriting skills your sales skills please let's just have a talk and then you know what. Be respectful of his time and know that his efforts will ultimately cost money. He'll probably talk to you for I don't know how long ever he wants to talk to you. And before he says OK look let's hook up a time and I'll give you more details on exactly what I do and how we can work together.
Carlos Redlich:
If it's OK. The best thing to do is because just like you say I'll get messages all the time but the bet and I actually replied to them and the final the best thing you do is send a message with your biggest problem you won't solve it and you think I can solve and I'll do my best to give you that free advice. Oh you don't have to say hey hi. You just cut right to it. I'm super American just right to it.
Brian Kelly:
The super American, love it.
Carlos Redlich:
I got the Corvette right to the right.
Brian Kelly:
So we love you brother.
Carlos Redlich:
Love you too man. I appreciate you having me.
Brian Kelly:
I appreciate you coming on. Enjoy your time in Florida with you and your lovely girlfriend and enjoy your trip to Italy later. Oh man that's awesome. So for everybody watching we appreciate you coming on listening viewing whether you're on live or watching the recording or listening to the recording on a podcast. Have a wonderful wonderful rest your week. Thank you once again Carlos. Say so long to the folks. And
Carlos Redlich:
Giving you a high five.
Brian Kelly:
Oh see. we're leaving each other hanging. There we go. All right. That's it for tonight. Be blessed all. We'll talk to you again and see you next week on the mind body business show.
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Carlos Redlich is a highly sought after direct-response copywriter and marketing consultant. He's worked with all levels of entrepreneurs... From 6 figure start-ups to 9-figure mammoths. As he travels the world and learns about new cultures, Carlos' primary mission is to deliver as much value as possible to his fellow marketers and copywriters... in an authentic and straightforward manner.
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Narrator :
So, here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us, who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back. Who are dedicated, determined, and driven. How do we finally break through and win? That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly, and this is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show.
Brian Kelly:
Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Super excited for tonight's show. We have not just one, not two, not three, but four, four amazing guest experts who are joining me tonight right here on this very stage.
Brian Kelly:
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Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. So like I said, my name is Dylan Shinhoser. I own a couple of different businesses. I'm owner of a company called, "Experience Events", which is event management. I'm also a director of business development at a virtual event, event ticketing, and virtual event platform called, "ViewStub". As well as a co-host of another show called, "Event Masters", where I just ramble all day, every day about how to produce better experiences. It's really all I know and love to do is events. That is my less than 60-second pitch about myself.
Brian Kelly:
That's a good one, too. I'll tell everybody I've spoken with you in person. We had a call some time ago, and this gentleman, Dylan, is made of integrity and great character. So, reach out to him if you need any assistance in any of the areas he talked about, or if you just want to say hi to a really great guy. Then get in contact with him, and at the end of the show, we'll go through that. Please. Somebody remind me if I forget how to contact each of you. Because that's very important to me. This is the reason I bring this show to the forefront. (It) is to bring people like you into the lives of those who may not know who you are yet, and even those that do, to experience even more of your brilliance, your experience, your knowledge, and your value. It's not about me. This is about you. Always, always. Every time. I have one guest, usually. I just feel like I'm in this big family right now. But let's keep moving. Julie Riley, amazing young woman. Take it away.
Julie Riley:
Yes. So, I am Julie Riley. I am the social media manager at StreamYard. The platform we're using right now. Prior to my time with StreamYard, I owned my own marketing agency. I've been in digital marketing since two thousand and seven. So the very, very early days of the start of it is when I jumped in(to) digital marketing, and I love just being able to help others succeed in their business.
Brian Kelly:
Fantastic, and I will also say that I have spoken with Julie in the past. Both through a typewritten chat form and verbally. I think it was Clubhouse first time, which was phenomenal. Yet another phenomenal person, incredible integrity, and character. And yes, you're going to notice there's a pattern about this with the remaining two. It's the same thing. Hopefully, we can get the last one to talk a little bit. That will be nice. I'm just having fun because we were having fun before the show started. The one smiling. The biggest down there with the green hood; not pointing anyone out or anything. Thank you, Julie, for coming on. Yes. These people, Julie and Christian specifically, I know Christians coming up here in second. They're non-stop. They don't stop working. It's evident because of the very software research we're using right now. It's of grand quality for a reason. It's because of people like Julian Christian who keep everything rolling smoothly on the back end. Dylan's there nodding his head emphatically because he gets it. It's a lot of work, and they're doing it masterfully and we appreciate you. All right. Enough of the favoritism here that felt like favoritism. Julie's our favorite. Timothy McNeely! My buddy, my friend from just a little north of where I reside. I believe. If I remember.
Timothy McNeely:
Central California, baby. Bakersfield. Yeah, my name is Tim McNeely. Today, so many dentists and driven entrepreneurs are just not sure if they're getting advice that really makes a difference for them. They may have a financial adviser who is giving them some advice on their investment portfolio, but they're not really sure that they're on the right track to really maximize their net worth outside of their business. That's what I help them do. Maximize your net worth so that you can keep taking care of the people you love, support the causes you care about, really make that difference in the world, and build an amazing life of significance. I love doing streaming because I get to talk to some of the best of the best out there and share the knowledge with the beautiful entrepreneurial community.
Brian Kelly:
I'll tell you something on a personal note as well. Literally, we talked earlier today, Tim and I, on a Zoom call. He just reached out to me and said, "let's catch up." I had him on the show some time ago as a single, solo guest, and he was phenomenal. We've just kind of maintained a relationship, a friendship ever since. He just wanted to reach out and say, "Hi" and "What's up? What do you want to talk about?" We just started talking about business and things. He gave me resources that will help me in my business, and hopefully, I reciprocated it somehow. I don't know if I did, but it is the people like Tim, like Julie, like Dylan, like Christian. That is the cloth that they are all cut from. They are here to help people. That's why I love entrepreneurs. I love all of you. I mean it. I do. I love you. You guys are amazing. I didn't even get a crack at a Christian on that one. Jeez, I mean... there we go. That's a little better, but I'm telling you, he's working on StreamYard our stuff right now as we're on the show. I mean, I'm.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm really trying not to, seriously.
Brian Kelly:
The founder Geige Vandentop. If you ever watch this, there's a message to you. Ease up on your people. Alright? Just having fun. Alright, Timothy, you're an amazing guy. Thank you for spending your valuable time and coming on here. As well as Dylan, Julie, and the ever so talkative one, Christian. I'm not going to attempt to say your last name. I'll let you take care of that one. Welcome to the show, Christian. Let's hear all about your brilliance.
Christian Karasiewicz:
Sure. Thanks a lot for having me. My name is Christian Kerasiewicz. I'm the content marketing manager at StreamYard. So, pretty much anything you see on our blog that we're going to soon be launching. I'm the mastermind behind that. So, I do that. In addition to that, I also host live stream reviews, a YouTube show. We also do on the StreamYard YouTube channel where we invite people on to talk about their live streams and help them work through some of their problems, some of their challenges that they might be having with getting community or building a show. Thanks a lot for having me. I appreciate it.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, my gosh. Thank you again, Christian, for your time and being here. I mean, he's literally building a blog while on a live show. I mean, that's a great thing. I'm not even kidding with this one. That is phenomenal. That is showing such dedication. So, it's more than that. It's passion. It's love. You know? What time is that where you are, Christian?
Christian Karasiewicz:
About 9 o'clock, or yeah... about 9 o'clock.
Brian Kelly:
(Nine o'clock) PM. Ladies and gentlemen, in case you're watching this recording. Yes. By the way, I'm going to be on twenty-five different platforms after this is over. So no pressure, but don't mess up. I'm just kidding. So, this is a phenomenal group of people, and I can't wait to dig in. Christian, just what you just said, what you do is right down the alley of what I was hoping to talk about tonight. It'll go organically, but I wanted to talk about... I mean, look at Julie, and look at Christian, and look at their images. Look at their video. It is gorgeous. Here, we'll start with a really gorgeous one first. Look at that. I mean. If there were nose hairs that weren't in place, we'd see them. That's phenomenal, and there is Julie. Wow. Very beautiful. Even more beautiful. I should just have her up like this all the time, and we can just talk in the background. Because, you know, maybe more people would come on. So, you guys have phenomenal camera setups, and here's one thing I always like to preach to those who are getting into the live streaming game. Does it take money? Yes, it does. It takes resources. It takes cameras, microphones, (a) computer, internet, good internet, fast internet, lighting, doesn't have to be fancy. What I always say though, is, do the best you can with the resources you currently have. OK, I wanted to start it off that way because what we're about to talk about with Julie and Christian is their cameras. They are top of the line. We're not talking a one-hundred or two-hundred-dollar webcam here. I like to let ladies go first. So, Julie, do you have a story when you first turned on your new camera versus when you had the webcam and what that looked like and felt like.
Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh, I turned that camera on, and it was immediately noticeable (the difference). I actually did a live on my personal Facebook page where I logged myself in as a second user into StreamYard. I had my Logitech camera that I had been using up as a camera and then had my new one. So, I could do back and forth and show everybody the difference between the two. What an upgrade that was. The Logitech served me great for years. It didn't stop me from going live, but that upgrade was immediately like, "oh, I can never go back down now".
Brian Kelly:
So, that so that is one thing. Let's say you're on the road, and I can imagine at some point both you and Christian, maybe, you'll be sent on the road to maybe support conventions and things that are on the road. Now, you want to stream live, what are you going to do then?
Julie Riley:
Well, you know, the great thing about the Sony is (that) it's a small camera. Tripods, portable ones, are small. I can take it with me. If all else fails, and I'm either on my phone or I'm on my little webcam or even my built in webcam, it's not going to stop me from going live. Is it going to be exactly what I want? No, but more than likely I'll have the Sony with me.
Brian Kelly:
Thank you for saying that. I mean, that spoke such volumes. I hope people are taking notes that are watching. Definitely take notes on this. Because, look, the show must go on. That's what I say, and this show tonight is the result of a guest who unfortunately was ill and could not make it on. So, I scrambled and found these four wonderful people to say, "I'll come on and do a panel with you." And that's it. The show must go on, and I'm going to either do it with people or I'll do it solo. It doesn't matter. Consistency is key, and we can talk more about that, too. I love how you're just talking about, Julie. Where, look, I don't care where I'm at. If I've got something and it's my time to go live, and I don't have my gear. I'm doing it.
Julie Riley:
Right.
Brian Kelly:
I love that commitment. So, thank you for that. For everyone listening, that's important. Yes, quality is important. Like I said, do the best you can with what resources you currently have. That includes, wherever you are. You may have a DSL camera that Julie paid five-hundred thousand dollars for. Oh, sorry, it wasnt that much.
Julie Riley:
Thank God it wasnt that much!
Brian Kelly:
What was the model of that again?
Julie Riley:
A6000.
Brian Kelly:
What does it run about?
Julie Riley:
It was about seven hundred.
Brian Kelly:
OK, not too bad. A little bit less than five-hundred thousand. Not much but yeah.
Julie Riley:
Yeah.
It's a phenomenal thing, and I love that that's your attitude toward commitment. I'll tell you. You have a similar attitude...anytime I go and ask for support through the back side of StreamYard community. I mean, like through messaging. When I say the backside, that's sounded weird. When I ask for support, you're always there. I mean, you don't sleep, and I appreciate that. So, keep not sleeping for everybody's sake. Christian, you do the same. So, Christian, what about you? When you made that initial change from whatever camera you had before to this unbelievably clear one year look you're working with right now. What did that feel like the moment you saw a difference?
Christian Karasiewicz:
So, it's very interesting actually. So, this is actually what I was using before. I've been using this for quite a number of years. This is a Logitech Brio. It does do 4K. I invested in this one and eventually came out, and the quality was fantastic. The only thing was, though. I wanted to scale. So this was great for traveling, for example. This is what I took around with me. Super portable. It's got the ability to put it on a tripod. Fantastic, but it did not allow me to scale, so I had to always take up another USB port and all that sort of thing. When I moved to the Sony, the Sony looked very good. I will say the one thing you have to do, though, is you need to go through the settings. There are a few adjustments you want to change. That's what's going to actually enhance your picture quality of it. It's a fantastic camera. It's a Sony 6400. Then, really, the other side to it is also the lens. So I'm using a Sigma lens. So, that I think is the real big difference. I mean you have the kit lenses it comes with. I did make the investment in the the additional lens, which I think that's actually what's contributing to why it looks so good. I will say from a quality standpoint, again, start with what you have. You know, the key things for live streaming. Audio is going to be your most important part. Then also, if you, for example, are using one of these webcams, make sure you have enough light. These things look great with a lot of light. When you don't have a lot of light, you're going to see pixelation. You're going to see distortion and things like that. So, turn it back to you.
Brian Kelly:
Especially with light, if you turn on the green screen feature, you really need to have good lighting then. That's the biggest time. I'm so glad to be liberated from that. Even though I loved it. This is actually a natural well behind me. I painted the entire studio. I actually occupy my daughter's former bedroom. I've been here for four or five years now, and I finally got rid of the cartoon drawings and the yellow paint. I'm a real boy now. I have a real studio. This is awesome.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That looks really good by the way. I was very surprised (by) your background because that looks like one of the standard backgrounds people would normally bring up during a live stream. One that has, you know, the gradient going around the outside. So, whoever did the painting on that fantastic job.
Brian Kelly:
Why, thank you very much. My wife did most of the work to be honest, but I feel like that helps with that. Yeah.
Timothy McNeely:
If you want that comparison between cameras. Right. Christine was just talking about the Logitech Brio. That's what I'm on, and you can see the massive quality difference between Kristen and Julie versus the webcam. So. Right. (A) huge step up.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, we'll point that out in glowing detail right now.
Christian Karasiewicz:
You're using a green screen. Right?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
Your sound, Christian, is smooth. I mean, you have a great radio voice. Having that microphone, I think will pivot to that too. Dylan, what are your thoughts on cameras? Yours looks actually really decent right now? You're on (a) green screen, correct?
Dylan Shinholser:
Correct. Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
It looks really clean. You've done a good job with all the lighting. It's almost like you've done this before, and you know what you're doing.
Dylan Shinholser:
I try. Yeah. So, I actually when I first started doing it, I started listening back on my phone. When this whole pandemic hit, I was using the one inside your laptop and realized very quickly (that) I'm on calls all day, live streaming shows and stuff. I was like, "I got to set my game up." So, I haven't made that leap yet to the DSLR, but I will. I'm on a Logitech, one of the models. I won't even lie because I'm not that tech-savvy. It was expensive for Logitech, so I bought it. I was like, "it's got to work." So, yeah. So, that's where I'm at. I agree heavily. I think it comes down to, because we get asked it and I know you guys get asked, it comes down to what you can afford at the moment. Then always trying to push the limits of production value. Right? My background was a wall. It was just like random yellow wall, and now I have a giant green screen wallpaper now. So, now, I can be wherever I want which is a concert. That's where I want to be, and that's where I'm going to be.
Brian Kelly:
You're the one on the stage, brother. Not the audience.
Dylan Shinholser:
No, I'm actually the guy behind the stage. I never want to be this. It's actually weird for me to be in front of people. I'm the guy behind the stage telling people to get on the stage.
Brian Kelly:
Pushing them forward. Well, you do a good job, Dylan. I wouldn't know any different. Maybe your calling is to step out from behind and be on front more often.
Dylan Shinholser:
We will see. Twenty twenty-one has a lot of stuff, and I've got a long way to go. I got super bored in twenty-twenty so I might as well talk.
Brian Kelly:
I've gotten to know you a little bit over time, and you've got a great personality. I think you need to shine in front of more people. That's my humble opinion.
Dylan Shinholser:
I appreciate that.
In the front, not behind the scenes. It's okay to be behind the scenes on occasion, but someone like you with your personality and your integrity, your character...get out there, buddy. It's a disservice if we don't get to see you. Let me put it that way.
That's what a mentor of mine said. He was like, "dude, you're actually being selfish by not talking more and getting it out." Because like I said at the beginning, I only want to help more people create better experiences and events. Make them flow better and make them more money as humanly possible. At the end of the day, I just want to travel the world with cool people and do cool things. I've learned a lot, and a lot of people need some of that experience. So, I got a stern talking to by one of my mentors. He was like, "dude..." I was like, "alright, it's alright. I promise." I started live streaming then had to get better cameras, better lights going on. It's crazy up here in my little command center of all these different lights, webcams, and monitors. Everything you need to do to pull these shows off.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I love it. Christian, go ahead.
Christian Karasiewicz:
So, I want to throw something in there real quick. We talked about various types of cameras. If you're just getting started, use that built-in laptop, the webcam. So then you can take it up a notch. You can go to the Logitech. The C922. That's about, I think, a 60 to 70 dollar webcam. So, don't overpay by the way. It's about 60 to 70 dollars. Get it from Logitec, probably. If you find an astronomical price on Amazon, move up to like the Brio, for example. If your budget allows it, that's about one hundred fifty dollar camera. Then move up to a DSLR. For example, Julie's got that, the Sony 6000. I would also say if you happen to have a smartphone, this can be used as a webcam. Essentially, if you think about it, this is a thousand dollar camera. Because you paid a thousand dollars for this device of sorts, and this will give you some phenomenal picture quality. If you already have a smartphone and you don't have to have the latest iPhone, it could be pretty much any iPhone and Android phone. You just need an app such as one called,"Camo." There's one called,"Erion." So, there are lots of apps out there. Don't think like, "hey, I have to now go drop a bunch of money." Look at the phones you have lying around. Those are going to be great ways to fix your picture quality.
Julie Riley:
I've been going live since 2015, and I only had this camera last year.
Brian Kelly:
That's it. You keep reinvesting. I had a good friend of mine who were business partners. He said, I'll never forget it,"sales drive service". When you're making money, you're able to invest. You're able to up your game, and I love that. So many great points. You can just set a phone on a tripod and your camera will look better than many people's webcams. For sure. One of the things that I would recommend, this isn't just a plug StreamYard, is to get at least get the free plan. Do they need any more than the free plan to be part of the community, Julie?
Julie Riley:
No. They can come to join the community even if they're just getting started into streaming. We do like everybody to have the free plan so they have an understanding, but we'll still let you in. Agree to the rules. That's the big thing. Yeah, come join the StreamYard community. It's really a "stream yard" community.
Brian Kelly:
It's a very valuable place because questions like what Christian just addressed are often asked (What do I need?). I'm just starting. I'm a newbie. I see that so much in there. What can you do to help with a camera or microphone or computer? You can go there if you have those questions and ask, and the community will fill in the blanks wonderfully well because they're a great bunch of people. Just like Tim down there who's gotten pushed to the side for a while. So, Tim, is this your first camera that you've been using for live streaming so far? Did you have one before it?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah, right. I started with just an HD one. Right. Logitech and then jumped up to the Brio. Been happy with that so far. But, you know, it's interesting how the game keeps growing again. That's the thing, right? Just get started! Just do this. I started with just using zoom and recording those for my interviews, and then I realized (that) I need a better platform. I need a way to kind of do that live production. Now I'm doing Stream Yard and got intros. Just get started with whatever you've got and kind of build that proof of concept. You know, I recently just upgraded my lights because I bought the cheapest lights I could at first. I just wanted to do something, and done is better than not done a lot of times.
Brian Kelly:
I totally agree with everything you just said and like what Christian was saying. If you're going to put money into anything, make it the audio side of things first when you upgrade. I was fortunate. I started over nine years ago streaming live. This is a DSLR. Not a DSLR. Good grief, XLR microphone. It's old school. It's not even USB. So I plug it into a mixer board, and from there into my computer. I've used it for years. It's been just amazing. I've never had to do anything with my sound as a result. For you, there are great USB alternatives now. Oh my gosh, there are so many out there. Someone like Christian could probably point you in the right way. Someone like the StreamYard community could push you in the right way and tell you,"these are the ones". I have a connection with the guy who is a sound expert. I've never heard of this before. He has a studio that does 4D sound. I don't even know what that means. Four dementional?
Christian Karasiewicz:
Sweet.
I don't know what that means, audibly. He was telling me about speakers in the ceiling. I'm like, holy moly,. You don't need that obviously for a talk show like this, but think about the possibilities and have fun with it. The bottom line is, when you go on and go live. Enjoy yourself. I'm trying to do that a little bit with these fine people tonight. Thankfully, they're still here with me. I haven't upset them too great, especially Christian. I keep picking on him. Poor guy. I appreciate you all, and it's okay to have fun on your show. Would you guys agree with that? Is it okay to have a little bit of fun?
Julie Riley:
One hundred percent. If you're having fun, your audience is going to be having fun with you.
If you're not having fun... I don't believe in doing anything that I don't find fun. It's a life motto of mine. If I don't want to do it, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Like you said, Julie. If you're not having fun with it, then how in the world do you expect the viewers to want to have fun or engage or interact? It starts with you.
Brian Kelly:
Absolutely, absolutely. One of the things I wanted to pivot to is something I'm deeply interested in because the product that came up earlier when I did the quick ads spot. I like to solve the pain points that people are having in their live streaming experiences. I'm curious. I'll bet, Julie and Christian, you guys have seen and heard a lot about that. I actually had a team member of mine from my company put a poll up in the form of a meme, a graphic. What's the right word? I am having trouble with words these days. It's an infograph. That's it. Simple. I was a little bit shocked by the result, but I was just curious what you guys think. What are the biggest pain points you're seeing? (Either) that you're having individually. Tim, if you have that as well. Dylan as well. Dylan, you probably hear about a bunch of it as well. What are the pain points you are seeing come back over and over and over again? I'm having a horrible time trying to find another guest on my show if they're interview style, or the tech is just blowing my mind. Even though StreamYard is so simple. I'm having trouble with x, y, z. Let's just go around the horn. Dylan, if you don't mind, I put you on the spot. Can you think of any of those pain points that keep coming up over and over again?
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. The biggest thing I see is they underestimate what it does take. I totally agree. Why I promote StreamYard to our clients and everyone I possibly can is because of the ease of use. People go into it and think shows are just like setting up the webcam, and they can be. Setting up the webcam and just talking. Right? There's a lot of back end stuff to this. These shows and I'm learning that as doing my own now. I'm like, holy cow, I'm about to hire fifteen people because this is absurd. But, yeah. I think that's the biggest thing that I see is underestimating it, but also at the same time, they overcomplicate it. They have to think (that) they have to have all these bells and whistles and seventeen thousand cameras and two million dollar microphones. It goes back to our first point of "just do it". It doesn't need to be overcomplicated, but understand going into it, there is some work that takes and understand that you do have to respect what it takes to put these on. At the same time, don't overcomplicate it. It's funny how people work. They overestimate or underestimate it, but then heavily overcomplicate it at the same time. I think that's the biggest one I see.
Brian Kelly:
I'm so glad you brought that up. I've said this so many times, people don't realize what goes on behind the scenes before the show even comes on live for that episode. The amount of time and effort. If you want to do a live show that's of quality and represent yourself and your brand in a way that you want it to be represented professionally. It takes a good amount of work for every single show. That's why I automated nearly every process (that) I use now. It took time to get there, but you can use a team. You can get a team. Like you said, Dylan, to also help out. For me, it's all about quality, and more time is spent before the show by far than the show itself. After the show is over, another good deal of time is spent. That is in the minor edits, the repurposing, the marketing, and everything else that goes beyond. The live show is this tiny window of time, and it's the fun is part of it by the way. When you have everything automated, the rest is not "not fun" because you're not doing it. It's all automated, but definitely great. Thank you for that. Julie, what has been some of the big p.. sorry to wake you up there. What have been some of the big pain points? You are wide awake. I just starttled you. You've seen over and over, I bet you've seen a bunch of them.
Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh. So many, you know, especially because I'm approving all of the comments that are coming into the group. I think one of the huge ones is that the hesitation of people who believe that they have to have everything perfect. That they have to have all of the backdrops, the overlays, the banners, the super expensive microphone, and the super expensive camera. That they have it. The room behind them is messy. They haven't thought about turning to just a blank wall because they're like, "well, then I don't have a fancy studio set up." They get to this point where they're trying to create perfection, and perfection is a fairy tale. It doesn't exist. There is no such thing as perfection. There is, again, where Dylan said the overcomplicating it. They've got to really just slow down and go, "what do I need to get this process going?" What is the minimum to make it happen? From there, then I can then build on it, and build on it each week. Go, "okay, I got live. I got the first one out. I got the jitters out. I hate the way I sound." When I had my agency, I would tell my clients. They'd be like, "I can't stand the way I sound." I'm like, nobody likes the way (that) they sound. There's actually, and I say this all the time, there's a term for it that is a term for not liking the sound of your own voice. I tell people, you have to get over that fear. They're like,"I don't look good on camera, I don't know how to be on camera." The other thing I tell people is to set up a fake Facebook group with nobody else in it but you. Go live in there a bunch of times and just get those jitters out. Get that feeling of pressing the button and going live. Then invite your husband in, your sister, your mother, or whoever. Somebody so that you're talking to somebody. From there, build up each time. As we said with the cameras, again, you can you can slowly build. You can slowly add in the overlays. You can slowly add in the backgrounds.
Brian Kelly:
My goodness! I absolutely love it. I have my own Facebook group that I use just for that. Nothing more. I go in there, and I test things for StreamYard and other things in there. I go live in there because there's no substitute for going live. We've got more buttons to click, and things kind of change their arrangement just a little bit in the window. If you practiced it 20 times without going live, then you go live you're going to go, "what the heck just happened?" I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. That was perfect. Perfect advice. I love that. We've got a comment coming in or two or three. Yeah. Kelly, crucial. Kruschel. Sorry if I got that wrong.
Dylan Shinholser:
Kelly Kruschel. It's Kruschel. She said she's on my team. She's a friend. Hey, we've got a supporter.
Brian Kelly:
Love it. Love it. Then Fran Jesse, I know her. I'm getting ready to make my first video essentially input. Yeah. Reach out, Fran. We're friends. I will give you assistance in any way you want because this is the greatest this is the greatest avenue for media on the planet, in my humble opinion, for so many reasons. One is people get to see you. I love clubhouse. It's also phenomenal in different ways, but people get to see you. They get to interact with you. They can engage with you, and they get to see your essence. It doesn't cost you, the studio owner, studio time. If you do this in the old days when you have to go to a television studio and you want to do a show, it would cost you thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars just to use the studio. Let alone get the media time to put it up on a television station. We're living in wonderful times. It's the greatest time to be alive, in my humble opinion. I'm a tech geek. I'm not young anymore. I'm fifty six, but I can't wait for the rest of what my life has to hold. Yes. You're welcome, Fran. Any time. Wonderful. Wonderful. Alright. Where were we? I got all messed up and loving myself there. We're going to have fun. I'm being real. This is like... I don't know. I'm the most relaxed (that) I've been in a long time with everything that went on today. It was one of those weird, everything-going crazy days. I feel like I'm at home with you guys. That's why.
Dylan Shinholser:
It's been one of those years.
Brian Kelly:
Thank God that last one is over.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, yeah. Sure.
Brian Kelly:
So, okay. Pain point. Let's go back around one more. Tim, what do you have?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah. When I first started doing this, my whole goal was to get out there and to talk to the different experts in the different areas of the challenges that my my clients face. I started off as an interview show and just using Zoom to record the video. Then all of a sudden I had the video. Now I had to put an intro in. I had to put an exit in. I had to extract the audio so I could do the podcast. My team members and myself were spinning our wheels. Just trying to really kind of create a workflow around the creation of this content so we could get the message out and help people with their challenges. For me, all of a sudden, the revelation was (that) I can do this live. I can have people type in (and) ask comments as I'm doing the show. Not only that, from start to finish, I can produce the whole thing going live. Right? You go live. You can play an intro now. You can throw in little commercial breaks. You can throw in the outro, and then it's done. Download the audio. You throw it up, and now you've got your podcast. You don't have to upload video to YouTube and Facebook and LinkedIn. It's done for you now, automatically. So really my biggest pain point was just the production side of things and putting everything together so that I could keep talking to people and doing the fun part. Right? I don't want to get caught up in all the details of making this. I want to talk to people, learn, and share that knowledge. Really, a lot of the pain point, just using StreamYard has really been absolved because it's a turn-key easy to use platform.
Brian Kelly:
Amen to all of that brother. Here's the key for everyone that's ever going to do a live show or has done one. The most important part is that you show up and you be the talent. That means you need to be dedicated mentally toward what the task is at hand. If I have too many things going on, like production-wise, which I used to when I didn't automate things. That's in the back of my mind. Did I dot every "i"? Did I cross every "t"? What's going to screw up on this show? Versus showing up fully for my guest. Being there for them. Getting out of myself and my own business and being present for the other person, that's what I'm about. Lifting up the other people, that's what my show's about. It's important to me.
Timothy McNeely:
Actually, if I can touch on that talent piece, Brian? I think he brought something up so important for everyone listening to this. If you're doing any kind of a show where you're interviewing people, chances are (that) the person you're talking to (is) a little bit uncomfortable. Your job, as the talent, is to spend some time before the show really crafting what it's going to look like. What direction are you going to go in? You want to make that person you're talking to look like a star. The more you can rehearse with them and put them at ease, you're going to end up with a much, much better show. Because you've taken a little bit of time to make sure that (the) other person is going to shine just as bright as you do. So, take that time to work with your guests beforehand through interview guides, through little questionnaires. So that you can help prep them, to keep them on a thread, and you can really help them deliver their message. Most people are not trained professional speakers. They just aren't. I've hired some of the best speaking coaches to help me develop messages, stay on topic, and learn how to tell stories. People don't invest time, energy, and effort to do that. You can help them do that through a briefing before you start your live with them.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. That's why I was saying before, I do a thirty-minute preshow. All of us were on here for 30 minutes getting to know each other, making sure all the tech was good, doing some checkout. You were talking about people being nervous and stuff. That's why I'm riding Christian so hard with all these jokes and stuff because it broke his nervousness. You can see his sweating. I am so kidding. This guy's raw. He's a rock. He's awesome. He's a pro. I love this guy, man. I always pick on the quiet ones. I don't know why that is. Christian, man, you're bringing massive value. All kidding aside, you're very experienced. You're matched for what you do. You've said already so many amazing things. What about you, brother?
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'd say this. I think a couple of the pain points. I think one is people want to ask, "how do I get better at my live stream?" I think (that) the first thing is practice. To Julie's point, I think you mentioned having overlays, backgrounds, and all this other stuff. Look at it like this. You want to show your audience as well while you're helping them. You're doing this with them. You have everything at the same time, and you're trying to make everything perfect. Your audience is going to be like, "I'm not going to stick around this person because they've done such a good job already. I won't ever get to that point". They start having that self-doubt. The key thing is going to be practice. You don't have to have every single one of the overlays. Maybe start with the the intro or the thumbnail, and maybe you have an outro for example. (Those are) the first two things you do. As you build the show, then you can add segment graphics. You can add videos. So, you can scale it, but you don't have to have so much at one time because then it's just too overwhelming. That's point number one. Pain point number two is that people, for some reason, think that they're going to immediately be able to monetize their live stream. I say pain point because everybody's like, "oh, I bought all that equipment." Now, you've got to figure out how to pay for all that equipment, you know? If you're struggling already with your business and growing it, then you're not going to immediately monetize live stream. You have to have an audience. You know, you have to build that community. When you go live, they're tuning in because (of) the social platforms. They want to see that you're bringing viewers, they want to see engagement. So, point number two is monetizing your live stream. There are ways to do that, but don't always set out with monetization being number one. It could take a couple of years to monetize. So, get started. Build on it, then make those investments as your business is growing. Yes, mic drop. Yes.
Dylan Shinholser:
Do you have that mic? Just a mic drop? Because I might need to get one.
Brian Kelly:
It's actually super.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, super real.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That's pretty cool, actually.
Julie Riley:
I like that.
Brian Kelly:
It's actually part of a magic trick that you put in a paper bag. It's a long story, but I found one more affordable that would not break my keyboard because that's what it landed on. You didn't hear it. Oh, my gosh. Golden nuggets there, as usual, from Christian who I give a lot of hard time to. I'm going to stop because you're amazing dude, and I don't want to get mad at me. I want you to be my friend. So many great things. So, you said two years. I was like, wow. I was watching an interview. How many of you have heard of Lewis Howes? Former professional football player and turned incredible entrepreneur. He's all over the place. He was being interviewed, and the guy interviewing him asked him a question. He said, "so, Lewis, if someone came to you, and they were talking about the fact they wanted to start a podcast. Now, we're talking just the audio version. That's what a podcast really is for everyone that may not know it's audio-only. Not video, even though they're going that way." He said, "well, here's what I'd tell them. First, you got to actually be consistent. Whenever you decide to do it, do it at that same day and that same time every week or multiple times a week. Whatever that happens to be. Number two, more importantly. You must commit yourself to doing that for at least, the magic number, two years. If they are not willing to do that, I would tell them, don't even get started." We didn't talk about monetization. None of that was discussed during this Q&A. That was telling. Who was I talking about this earlier with earlier today? It's not necessarily about monetizing. It's about building your platform, and I wanted to add to that. It took me in two years. I was just hitting that moment in time of my live show. That's when the momentum started. He was spot on, and so are you, Christian, about the two years. Then using a certain strategy (that) I use, I continually ask for referrals in a certain way. I eventually landed the one and only Les Brown. Some of you know who that is. Some of you don't. I've noticed some don't and Im like,"what rock are you living under?" He's amazing, and he's been on my show. Because of that, the two-year commitment is my point. Not talking about monetization. Then what I found after doing this for two years and striving for excellence all the time in every facet, I'm talking about the preshow communication with upcoming guests and the setup and the prep that they all go through and my system makes sure they do. The show itself and then after the show, all the post-production, everything that goes into it. Once you have that, people notice and my show, without my intending it to be, became an incredible, powerful lead magnet for my business. Focus, just as Christian was stating so properly, does definitely, positively impact your business. If you do it right. You do it high quality, and again, within reason within the resources you have. Go ahead, Christian.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I was going to say. That's another point that people look at, and they want to generate revenue off of it. That revenue may not be actual money upfront. It may end up being (help) (to) drive more leads to my website. It's not necessarily driving more people to my social channels. You're following is... It's OK. That's not going to necessarily grow your business because you had five more followers on Instagram or something like that. It's potentially getting them back to your website, which can be an opportunity for them to schedule a coaching call with you, maybe buy a product from you, learn from you for example. You're not going to get every single person to become a customer, but you're going to be able to use it to generate more leads.
Brian Kelly:
Totally, totally true.
Dylan Shinholser:
That's why I do it.
Brian Kelly:
You see on the top of this screen "streaming live on" and then five. We're doing it to eight right now or seven right now. "Listen-on" down below. On the bottom, there's actually twenty five of those like us could fit them all. Roku now was on Fire TV. Look, you're not making money from those, but here's what happened. How many of you have heard of Kevin Harrington? Shark Tank? Original Shark Tank? He has a partner named, "Seth Green", and they do a podcast together. They've been doing it for years now. They have five-hundred plus episodes. We got introduced, Seth and I. I met Kevin. We shared the stage once. I'm not name-dropping, but yes, I am. It was awesome, and it was fun. Seth reached out. We were connected by someone else. We were introduced, and Seth did his own homework. He came back, we literally talked on Zoom, and he says, "wow, I did some research. I looked you up and, my God, you're everywhere." I just wanted to say, "yeah, that's right." So, you want to get out there. That's why, shameless plug, I call it, "carpet bomb marketing". You saturate with everything you've got within reason. Right? If you can automate it, it can be near or completely free. So just do it. Why not add it to your arsenal? So, it works. Just be consistent to a minimum of two years. Get in touch with people like Julie, Christian, Tim, and Dylan. You might make that even quicker than two years. I'll direct you to the shortcuts that many of us did by trial and error.
Timothy McNeely:
Touching on the monetization piece, a good friend of mine runs one of the top coaching consultancies out there. Right. Very, very successful. Runs a great podcast, great show. I ask him one day. I said, "have you need any money doing your podcast?" He thought for a second. He says, "naw, I've actually lost money doing it. The relationships that I've made...I've made millions off (of) that." If you approach it from that standpoint... There's different goals, but I always approach, you know, what's the end result? What are you looking for out of your show? Why are you doing it? That's how you can measure the success of it. Is it helping you achieve whatever goals you set for yourself?
Brian Kelly:
Totally agree. It's very similar. Isn't it? To writing a book? I'm holding up another namedrop. Yes, it's very similar to writing your own book. Because a lot of people want to write a book and make a living off of the sales of the book. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, most of the time it just doesn't happen that way. If anyone comes up to you and you're talking to them... During the course of conversation, maybe you ask them what they've been up to? Or, hey, I've authored a book. The moment they say that, in your eyes, do they not lift up in an influence in your mind? Right then and there? Instantly. It builds authority. That's exactly what this live show, and live shows like it, are doing. When you're giving evidence of it by spitting it out to all of these platforms, there's no way people can't find you and know that you're serious. You know, it's showing that you have a commitment level. It's showing that you have a quality level of professionalism. It's not about the show itself. It's like, well, if I do business with that person, or will I... Will I want to do business that person? If they're professional. Yes. If they put on a shoddy show, they might give me shoddy service. If I do business with them. Does that make sense? People want to (be) representing yourself in the best. Do it the best you can, but do it. Please, don't delay. Don't try to be perfect. You heard everybody talk. Go ahead, Dylan. You had something?
Dylan Shinholser:
Well, yeah. There's indirect ways to make money with shows, live streams, and of course direct (ways). Right. Direct is selling sponsorships, ad-space, all that good stuff. The indirect monetization is so much more powerful. When I do shows or when I hop on shows or anything, it's literally just to build a top-down awareness of myself. I just want people to know what Dylan Shinholser is. Then that way, because I do multiple things, I'm never trying to sell one product at any given time. I'm trying to sell myself, and what it does is it gives me that outlet to do it. Then if you're hosting a show. Right? This maybe goes into some other topics around how to market and things like that. It's a powerful relationship tool because when you can open your platform to other people that you're looking to connect with. I'm in the business of working with influencers and throwing their events. Well, the best way to connect was get them on my show. It gave me a reason to reach out that wasn't pitchy or sales. It was more or less. Hey, man, I just want to give you an outlet, because I think what you talk about is cool. Tell my people about it. After the show, I was like, "hey, man, what are you doing next Tuesday? I need a speaker." Or "hey, man. I have some ideas (that) I want to pitch you or (some) things. They're more receptive. So, I always do shows and things not about the direct money I get, but the indirect thing. It's the indirect impact that I get from relationships, or people sharing my stuff out and people go, oh man, he sounds semi-intelligent unless they're watching this. Then then they'll go, okay, great. Let me go over to this platform that he runs with this business that he does or whatever because he sounded halfway intelligent on that show. Right? So, I think the indirect monetization is what most people don't... They don't get that the instant gratification of like that five thousand dollars sponsorship check. When I forgo that and go on to bring on much more money on the backend with the people I connect with, in the top influence that I get.
Brian Kelly:
The magic word there was "relationship".
Dylan Shinholser:
Relationships all day, every day. That's all I do- is build relationships, and how can I do it? Do more shows like this. Can I get it out? You're on like forty-two different podcast or outlets here, right? Every one of those. Every time you put a show on it, you're building a relationship with someone on that platform. Even if it's just you talking, and they're listening. You're building that relationship. Everything (that) I do, is built on: how can I develop relationships? Live streams is just an amazing way to do so.
Brian Kelly:
Posting them is one thing. Right? That's a great thing. What I learned through a podcasting expert friend of mine is the maybe not as equally important, but possibly greater importance, is getting on other people's shows. That includes audio podcasts only. He explained how his business skyrocketed when he did what he called, "podcast guest marathons". He would have someone get him booked in his team. He would carve out three days and just say get as many as you can for me. He'd do that. Then when they ask him about how to get in contact with him... This is the gold right here... It's not go to my Facebook page and look up my name and message me. He would tell them to go to his podcast website and from there to subscribe. Now he's building a following. It's genius. It's so genius. I just want to impart that. The cool thing, though, is when you're hosting a high-quality live show that opens the door for you to be a guest on many more.
Dylan Shinholser:
Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Being a guest is what goes back to the authority building. Right? If I can build my authority, I build my influence. If I do have something to sell... If I'm trying to build my brand or whatever it is or I'm just trying to get to as many people as possible to talk about events with them... That authority I call it, "authority hacking", being able to get them on your show. That'll get your show in front of their audience, and then going on to other shows helps you develop your authority. It's like writing a book. I was I'm a guest on this show, this show, this show. It's like writing a book. Your authority starts to become a little bit more when you're leveraging their influence. Right? When you're a guest on the show, if that show has a following, you becoming a guest on that show gives you authority because now you have the validation of the host that everyone is following and love. So, I can authority hack by getting on other people's shows.
Brian Kelly:
It leverges. You have a whole new tribe watching and interacting with you as well. I mean, this is one of the most powerful things people can use. If they just get out of that rut of trying to find a way to make money with it directly, that's when they'll see the real value come through. It's about building relationships. It's long-term. Not short, quick kill. I got to make a commission and run. It's build a relationship. Establish it. If you go into this with the mindset of it not being for directly making money, I personally think you have greater success. The long-term plays always work better than the short-term. Short-term works can work, but they're temporary. The long-term is a lot more permanent and lasting. Just think of all the wonderful bread crumbs you're leaving throughout the world. Through all the venues and platforms we've been talking about. In speaking terms, if you're on stage, that's what we call a "stage swap". Where you would be a guest on someone else's stage in return for them saying, "okay, but I'm going to do the opposite." We'll have you on our as well. The same thing with podcasts and live video. It works really great. Just make sure they're a fit.
Dylan Shinholser:
They've got to fit. (It's) got to makes sense.
Brian Kelly:
Both ways. Yeah.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I want to add something real quick to that. If you are consistently going live, so it's great to be consistent, go live on a regular basis, but also think about the long game. It's a couple of years, for example. Also, don't be afraid to be making changes and adjustments as things are moving along. It's not about substituting equipment. It's about looking at your process. For example, you mentioned Brian, that you have automation on some of the things. Think of smarter ways to take bigger jumps ahead. If I have to send someone an email, and I'm like, "hey, do you want to be on my show?" Then I have to deal with the whole back and forth. Well, okay. Yeah. What time? Then I have to send everything back. There are tools out there like Calendly, Harmonizely. You can send a calendar link to somebody and they can only book a certain slot for example and vice versa. This takes out the guesswork out of having to do all that back and forth. That's a way to work smarter because now you want to book people for your show. You send them one link. The person then doesn't have to send you a message back, and you can even use it to collect feedback for your show questions. There's not a lot of back-and-forth and downtime.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, absolutely. I do that as well, and it's a godsend. I could not do what I'm doing. I would not do what I'm doing without the automation part of it. I have an onboarding form. You guys all... Most, not all of you went through it, but that was a mini version. Julie, you went through the big version. I then changed it right after I saw that. Like you said, make adjustments. That's what I did. I'm constantly doing that. Improving. I have a document automatically generated in Google Docs with your bio. The answer you had to why you think you would bring value to the show. Also, all the questions you chose to be asked for the show. Some of you didn't see that. So everything's done. The Q&A part used to take hours and hours doing manually. Now I just give them thirty-eight questions. Choose ten, and we're good. You tick the box. You choose what I'm going to ask you. (I) just made it a system, and it has worked beautifully. I don't even use the ten questions hardly. I use maybe the first three. Then we go organically like we've been doing tonight. My God, it's six twenty-nine! Are you kidding me? I'm having too much fun. Real quick. I know everyone that came on in the beginning. You heard this thing about a prize. We're going to do that real quick, and we'll come back and wrap it up. For those of you watching, remember in the beginning I said, "take notes and don't go clicking away and stuff like that"? Now I think Dylan, Julie, Tim, and Christian will also give you permission to do what I'm saying, and that is take out your phone. Take your gaze away from us for just a moment, but you'll still have to look back. Yes, yes. You can do this too. Please, do. What I want you to do....
Dylan Shinholser:
I need a vacation.
This is how you can enter to win a five-night stay at a five-star luxury resort of your choosing. Here's what you do. Take out your message app on your phone. Fire that up- your text message app. Where you would type in the name of the person normally that you're going to text. Instead, put in this number: three, one, four, six, six five-they're all doing it behind the scenes- one, seven, six, seven. I love this. Three, one, four, six, six, five, one, seven, six, seven. If you're watching this and you're not a guest, go ahead and write this down because I gonna take the screen down. I want you to get it. This will be open until the end of the evening. Where you actually put in the message... Where you might put emojis, those kinds of things, not emojis, just two words separated by a dash or a hyphen. Those words are peak (P-E-A-K) dash Vacation (V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N). All together. No spaces. Peak vacation. Send it off, then monitor your phone. You're going to get an automated response back asking you for your email address, and that will then officially enter you into the contest. Compliments of The Big Insider Secrets. Our buddies, Jason Nash, the owner. Dear friend of mine who lets us give this away every single week. Every show, actually. We do more than one a week now on average. So go ahead, get that entered. I can't wait to see who's going to win that. You're going to be asked later, you don't have to if you're the winner, to provide your Facebook information. Just your profile so we can say congrats and give you a high-five online and get others to come watch the show. To be honest, that's another strategy. We're just rolling back the curtain. That's why we do it this way. You can offer incentives like that. My friend has offered that to anyone who is my friend. If you're not my friend, you don't get it. If you're on as part of the panel here, they're all my friends. Christian may differ on that opinion, but I think he's my friend.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm your friend. Yes.
Brian Kelly:
Ok, good. I picked on you so hard. I apologize, but you're just you're a fun guy. I appreciate you for putting up with it. I definitely do stuff like that. Implement it and announce it in the beginning. That helps retention. I'm just pulling back the curtain for everybody. You can do different things like that. Having multiple people, I noticed, is also a little better than just one every single time. So, mix it up now and then. Alright. I know we're a little bit over, but I want to give you each another chance for a final parting tip. Anything you want on live streaming. It could be hardware, software, how you smile, what bling you wear, don't wear, your makeup. I'm wearing some, by the way, just so the guys know. Yeah, I don't know what they call it. It's not like guy up.. guy-liner, but it's like makeup. I know. That was bad.
Dylan Shinholser:
I haven't heard of that one.
Brian Kelly:
I just did that. I'm not a young fart anymore. Anyway. So, Dylan, we'll do the same thing. Go around the horn. What would be one final quick tip, or parting words of advice, you can give our wonderful viewing and listening audience?
Dylan Shinholser:
Keep it simple stupid. Don't overcomplicate it. There's things that you need to do and standards you need to meet. At the end of the day, keep it simple stupid will allow you to not overcomplicated it (and) get overwhelmed. Once you get overwhelmed, it's a wash. I would just say as a life advice, event advice, live stream advice, just keep it simple stupid and keep it moving.
Brian Kelly:
Real quick, I got to interject on that. Just so people know that that comes from an acronym K.I.S.S. So we're not calling everybody stupid, for one.
Dylan Shinholser:
Well...
Brian Kelly:
That was great. I have a friend who is Sicilian in nature, and he did this from the stage. He talked about it, and he brought up the whole thing. We're talking about doing it without complicating it. He goes, "It's like K.I.S.S. Who knows what K.I.S.S means?" Someone raised their hands. They said, "keep it simple, stupid". He goes,"Oh, no, no. It's keep it simple Sicilian." He lighten the load of the stupid part. I thought that was cool. Sorry, Julie, what is your parting tip?
Julie Riley:
You know, you're going to have to get started at some point. In order to do that, you're going to have to get over your fear. Go practice. Get those done, but also go watch and find other people that you resonate with their live shows. Start to take pieces from each of those. Now, obviously, you cannot go copy their live show and recreate it. You can pull little things from multiple different people's live shows that you like and that resonate with you. If you're comfortable and things are resonating with you, you're going to exude that comfort and that confidence out to the rest of the world.
Brian Kelly:
I love it. I love it. Alright. The man, the myth, the legend, Timothy J. McNeely. What is your final parting word of advice?
Timothy McNeely:
I'm going to close with a story. The purpose of this story is to illustrate the power of doing a show. July 20th, 1969, the first man walked on the moon. He left his footprints up there. On the moon, there's no wind. There's no rain. There's no weather, and those footprints today in twenty twenty-one look exactly like they did in nineteen sixty-nine. They're going to be exactly the same a million years from now. You too. You leave footprints on the hearts and the minds of everyone that you come in contact with. In streaming and having a platform, that's your opportunity to leave your footprints and to have an impact on people. Get clear about what your message is. What's the impact you want to have? If you do that, all of the other puzzle pieces are going to fall in place for you.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, baby. Okay, I've got to do it. I've got to do it. That was amazing.
Dylan Shinholser:
You have to get one of the little lower third animation gifts that are possible here on StreamYard. It's just a mic drop every time someone does one.
Brian Kelly:
Not nearly as much fun though, bro.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That's true. Fair. Very fair. I'll give it to you. I've got to get me one of those little squishy microphones.
Brian Kelly:
A little sound effect like I just broke my desk or something. That would be good. Alright, Christian, you've had a long time to think about it now. No pressure, but this better be a good one. I'm kidding. What do you have?
Christian Karasiewicz:
Let's see. The best piece of advice, I think, would be don't have gas or gear acquisition syndrome. You're going to watch people doing their live streams, and they're going to go and be like, "hey, I got to get that mic because this person upgraded." Oh, they got a new webcam. Remember? If you develop a plan, the whole thing is work the plan.. work the system. It's great (that) somebody else got some equipment, but it doesn't mean that you need to go out and get that yourself as well. Remember, work your plan. When you get to the certain points, maybe set that as a milestone. If I get to a certain number of viewers, for example, or a certain number of subscribers on a channel, then I might need to upgrade something. Don't be buying stuff just because someone else is doing so.
Brian Kelly:
Sales drive service. I love it. You guys are amazing. Thank you so much for coming on. Everyone who watched live. Thank you for coming on. Those of you that watched on the recording. Thank you for spending your valuable time with us, and those listening on the podcast. The same goes for you. Definitely. I hope you took a lot of notes because these are experts in the field. They are giving their value, their heart, their experience. They only charged me two-hundred thousand dollars for it. It's really been a deal. I'm kidding. They charged me nothing. You got incredible value from these amazing, amazing professionals. I can't thank you all enough. I appreciate you Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. Thank you from the bottom of my heart with all seriousness. I know we had some fun tonight. Thank you, Christian, so much for letting me pick on you so hard. You've been a great guy. I look forward to getting to know each and every one of you at a deeper level. If you're open to that after tonight. Appreciate you all. On behalf of these amazing people, that's it. We're out. My name is Brian Kelly. I'm the host of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Until next time we will see you. Be blessed. So long for now.
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