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Brian Kelly:
So here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us, who have been hustling, and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back. Who are dedicated, determined, and driven. How do we finally break through and win? That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly, and this is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. We just keep getting better and better guests as time goes on, I am so blessed to get to do what I do, because, of this next guest expert you are about to meet, and I cannot wait to bring him on for you to meet. His name is Cory Bergeron. He's an amazing, amazing individual who is an absolute expert in the field of video of all kinds. And we're going to go deep into that and have some fun, have some great stories, you don't want to miss a moment. Before I bring him on, real quick The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, it is a show for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs, and I bring only, only successful entrepreneurs to the stage to be here with me, so that when they answer the questions and we have our discussion, they will bring value that you can simply take and model. And by that, I mean you simply copy, just follow their footsteps, do what they do. They have achieved success. All you need to do is mimic their actions. And that's called modeling. And that is why I love doing this show, because this is a show that is free. No one has to pay a nickel to watch the show. And, but the value, I could, we could literally charge many thousands of dollars for every show. If you liken it to going to, like a business seminar, you're going to get immense, immense value. I promise you. And I know I can promise that, because we've done over one hundred shows, and each and every one, has been absolutely value packed. So The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, is really about, what I call, the three pillars of success. And I began studying only successful people over the past decade, a little over a decade. And I began wondering and got really curious, what is it that made someone more successful than myself or extremely successful? What is it that they did? What were their habits? What skills did they know? What did they do, to get where they were? Some did it very young, others took longer. But what, what was the common denominator? And I found there were actually three of them. And yes, that's the name of the show Mind, Body and Business, Mind being each and every one of them had a very proven, powerful and flexible mindset. And there's many ways you can go about developing that. But it does take development, that takes effort. And each and every successful person I personally met, or studied had done that. And then there's body. Body is about taking care of, literally your physical body, by exercising on a regular basis, and what you are taking into your body as far as nutrition, whether it be food or liquid. And each and every successful person that I studied that had, that level of success that I desire to attain, did just that. And then business, my favorite. Well, they're all my favorite, mindset. They're all my favorite. But business is so multi multifaceted because it involves many skill sets like marketing, sales, team building, systematizing, leadership. The list goes on, and on and on. And the thing is, one person,IE, you, it would take you probably more than a lifetime to master every skill set necessary, to not only build a successful business, but then to grow it and thrive it. The good news is you don't need to master all of them. There's one in there that I mentioned, that if you master that one skill set, that will help you to leverage the rest. And that one is leadership. Once you've mastered the skill set of leadership, you can then delegate to those who have the skill sets you have not yet acquired or developed, and thereby really scaling your business much faster. So we're going to have a lot of fun here tonight. Speaking of fun, another great thing that very successful people do, is, they are voracious readers, and readers of the right books. And with that, I want to very quickly go off into a segment I affectionately call Bookmarks.

Announcer:
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Brian Kelly:
Yeah, there you see it, ReachYourPeakLibrary.com. Write that down. And on that note, real quick, stay with us. Don't go clicking away, any time during the show, because that's the moment, I'll guarantee you, when Cory will give that one golden nugget that could have changed your life forever. Stay here on the show. Actually, take out that old fashioned piece of paper, and writing instrument, pen or pencil, and take notes while you watch, and or listen, and stay with us mentally. Stay with us visually, audibly, because you want to really soak in what you're about to hear tonight. I kid you not. All right, ReachYourPeakLibrary dotcom. What is that? That is a website, I developed literally with you, the viewer, the listener in mind, because I did not read voraciously until late, my late forties. I am now 50. I will be fifty-six end of this month. This is crazy. I, I'm coming up on fifty-six and I've so, I've only been a voracious reader for about a decade and I found that it has life changing implications in a positive way. And so I began collecting all the books that I felt had, or I knew had a profound effect on my life, both from a business standpoint, and sometimes from a personal standpoint. And so I collected all these books, and put them on one website so that you, the budding entrepreneurs, are reaching for success or someone who's already reached a great level of success. Looking for that next great read. You can just come to this one stop shop and grab a book. This is not a money making website, Per say. They go, they all go to Amazon. All these links. I may make a few pennies and it's probably literally pennies. I've never even looked. I'm absolutely honest. This is just here for you as a resource. If you see a book and you want to go get it straight from Amazon, go, go. Please do that. I just want to impart upon you, the importance of reading and not just any book, but the right books. And for me at least, you have one successful person who has vetted a group of books, rather than just throwing a dart at the Amazon screen and picking a book out of the blue, hoping that, that one's going to have impact for you. So that is there for you. A resource, our gift, again. And I hope that you take advantage of that. ReachYourPeakLibrary.com,write that down. Stay with us, because it is time to bring on our special guest expert. Here we go.

Announcer:
It's time for the guest expert spotlight. Savvy, skillful, professional, adept, trained, big league, qualified.

Brian Kelly:
And there he is, ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only, Cory Bergeron, how are you doing tonight? My buddy from Florida?

Cory Bergeron:
I'm doing very well, Brian. Thank you for having me.

Brian Kelly:
And you are in the most beautiful home there. I mean, that looks like a very large, expansive mansion out on the water. I mean, where are you actually located right now?

Cory Bergeron:
I'm actually sitting on one of our studio sets in our video production studio. What you see behind me, is a lifestyle set that was built out for a video that we actually shot earlier today for another client. So I figured since everything was set up and the lights were there, I would just sit in the chair because it's, it's pretty.

Brian Kelly:
And I am so excited. I love this stuff. I eat this stuff up because I have an affinity for video myself, not nearly to the level you have, my friend. I don't come close, but that's why I love, this is going to be a lot of fun, before I formally introduce you to our folks, so you know, who you are, and a little bit more about now. Now that I'm sure their curiosity is peaked, I wanted to remind everyone, anyone who stays on, everyone who stays on live to the end, will get a chance to win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. Compliments of, you can see it if you're watching the video on the upper right hand corner,The Big Insider Secrets. My buddy Jason West and his company, phenomenal people. They provide this vacation, give away every single show. We give one away. So, I hope that's you. Exactly. And guess what? Pretty soon you're going to be able to be free to move about the country. Yes. And out of the country. That's even better. Right. So with that, let's bring on this amazing gentleman, Cory Bergeron. He's credited for grossing hundreds of millions of dollars in product sales on national television. He's a master of customer psychology. And the buying decision, oh, this is going to be good. Cory shares his knowledge as a best selling author, highly pursued keynote speaker, elite business consultant and TV host. He also leverages his more than 20 years of directing and producing experience, for some of the world's biggest brands. I hope everyone, I think we got everybody's attention by now, because of his rare insight of both video production and product sales. Cory founded, and is CEO of Pitch Media. We're going to talk about that tonight. A premium video production and digital marketing agency for lifestyle brands. His mission, is helping propel the evolution of marketing video with unrivaled acumen to drive how the buying decision is made. Powerful sentence. You're also a good copywriter that gives brands the fuel to elevate their profile, distinguish their identity and dominate their industry. Bang. I love that with that. Here he is once again, Cory Bergeron.

Cory Bergeron:
Oh, thank you, bro.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, my goodness. I love your set. I love your home.

Cory Bergeron:
Ah, thank-you.

Brian Kelly:
It's just a cozy little place, for goodness sakes. There is so much in that bio that I cannot wait to dig in, to see exactly what it is, you and your company do, what you provide, what your clientele are. We're going to get into that very soon. But what I like to do is, now we see that you've, you're very well accomplished, very experienced and highly successful, definitely all. But what I like to do is, first, peel back the onion a little bit, and get an idea what's going on, in that big, beautiful brain of yours, what, what is, what got you to where you are at, number one, and what is getting you continually farther? Because getting there is one thing, but maintaining and then improving, that's a whole nother mountain to climb. So what is it for you, Cory? Every morning, every morning, you wake up, there's going to be challenges and then you want a great, thriving business. You never have challenges, right? Just every day.

Cory Bergeron:
I'm a CEO, which means, when everything has gone wrong and every level of management I have put in place has failed to solve the problem, it lands on my desk. So, yeah, yeah. That's the job.

Brian Kelly:
You're the end of the road. That's it. There's no place else to go. So what is it, knowing that you're going to be facing that every single day? What is going on in that big, beautiful brain of yours when you wake up in the morning that motivates you to just keep going?

Cory Bergeron:
Well, listen, I have a number of things that motivate me. And the easy answers to that question, are about people outside of me, you know, my children, my wife, things like that. But if you're going to ask that question of me personally, what is it that I am gratified by every single day? What gets me out of bed to serve, just what's going on inside of me? It would be pursuit of personal freedom. That really is it for me. What we do here, is create video and marketing messages for brands who are looking to inspire people to live healthier, more active lifestyles. That's what we're really passionate about. And we work with lots of different brands. Some people meet that criteria, some don't. You know, you, you shoot for your target. But you do business in your market, right, that's the idea. So we shoot for that target, and we end up helping a lot of people. But, but that's really what excites me. So, you know, I've been, I've been, a very avid backpacker most of my life. You know, I love strapping on a backpack and doing one hundred miles through the mountains and never see another soul, and just get into the the the wildest places in the world. And in that, I find a lot of personal freedom. Well, I love supporting brands that will also inspire that for other people. So when I get out of bed in the morning, and I know that we're working with brands like that, I might as well be standing on that mountaintop. There's an enormous amount of personal freedom in that for me.

Brian Kelly:
Wow. And it's so authentically you, I can tell. I mean, the passion is oozing right now. And I mean, that is such a great way. I love that. I love when someone has found what they love to do and can do it every single day and actually make good a good living for themselves by doing that. And you know...

Cory Bergeron:
What they say? They say they say "Do what you're passionate about and you'll never work a day in your life."

Brian Kelly:
Exactly. I love what I get to do. And I have I've gone for the last 30 days or so, 12 to 17 hours a day because I want to and I love it.

Cory Bergeron:
That's awesome.

Brian Kelly:
And yeah, I get tired, but I'm like tired and going, "Yeah, but I still want to do more", you know, my eyes are bloodshot. My wife's like, "You should go to bed." Yeah. I will one more thing more.

Cory Bergeron:
One more.

Brian Kelly:
I tell you. Oh, we're getting people coming in already. Thank you, Eddie Le Sirian. I hope I, Lazaar, Roarin. That's a tough one. I'm sorry if I got that wrong. "Check out these inspirational books." Oh, he's given us some references as well. Cool. For another Amazon, those links are kind of funky. So I'm going to move to the next one. Hey, prince Io, this is an amazing, amazing young man. "Thanks for bringing great minds to your show every week. May you continue to prosper". And you as well, my friend Prince Io and Cory as well. Because here's the thing. I don't, no matter how successful one person is, if someone is doing something, that's serving the people, that they're serving people in a good way like you are, Cory, because, you just said what your passion was, then I want, I want you to be extremely monumentally profoundly wealthy, because why? Then you can serve even more people in the way that you're doing. I don't look at it like, all that rich son of a you know what? That's a, that's a mindset for failure. If those of you that are out there, that think that, because, if you're upset at somebody for making money, then how can you ever attain something you're upset about? Think about. Yeah, so fantastic. And we talked about books in the beginning. I did, I should say, and about being a voracious reader. What would you say of all the books you've read, say it's a business related book has inspired you the most to date?

Cory Bergeron:
Wow. Wow. I have a lot of business books with some heavily dog-eared and underlined pages, but I would have to say, one of the books that really stood, head and shoulders above the rest for me, and it's actually not a very big book, it was an easy read is, "The Big Leap. I love "The Big Leap", "The Big Leap", talking about people having an upper limit problem, where they actually can't break through that glass ceiling in their lives, because they, they, they have a discomfort with too much success, whether it be financial success, success in relationships, success with your family. You know, we have, people, have lots of different definitions of success, but inevitably people will establish this glass ceiling in their lives. And even if they manage to get past it for a short time, they'll sabotage themselves to get themselves down below it again, because that's where they're most comfortable, whether they've been telling themselves a lie since they were born, saying, "I don't deserve to have that much money" or "I don't deserve to have a successful relationship, you know, feelings of unworthiness", and lots of other things like that. "The Big Leap", really calls you out, and puts you, into self-analysis mode, so that you can take some inventory of your own feelings about yourself and your own feelings about the world, and maybe start reprograming some of those glass ceilings that are in your life, allowing you to break through them, and have the success that you've always told yourself you wanted, but didn't know you were sabotaging it.

Brian Kelly:
So, we just discovered why Cory is so successful when it comes to mind set, and I'm not kidding I mean, he just stated everything that holds people back, most everything. A lot of people fear failure. Some will fear just the unknown. But for many, what you just said, is usually the biggest fear that people have. And it's a, it's a hidden fear. They don't ever want to admit it. And that is, success. And some don't even know it. Right. And I've been so fortunate to be able to become certified in Neurolinguistic Programing NLP for short. And we hit that head on, and help eradicate limiting fears. And we, we did just that. And it's an amazing thing, that, that is such a prevalent fear,holding, people back. And it's, it's, so unfortunate, isn't it, Cory, that these people, have this incredible, amazing talent, and, and, and experience, and drive. Yet they have that ceiling. You were talking about, holding them down. They can't breathe, and you just want to reach out and give them a big, like I said, I'm a hugger. I was telling you earlier in the beginning, give them a real big hug and just say, "You got this". And just wish you, blow that fear of success out of them. And you can do that with NLP. But it's amazing to go through those processes, and help people, because, you just see the brilliance in them, and you want it to shine for them, more than they want it for themselves sometimes.

Cory Bergeron:
Yeah. And really, the the veil that hangs in front of people's eyes,often is just one that they don't recognize as being there. They think that they've got clarity, and that they see their world with perfect vision. And at the end of the day, they don't realize that they're looking at through handicapped eyes, that they, they didn't even know they had. So, it's one of the cool things about that particular book. I think it does a really nice job, you know, peeling back the layers of the onion and saying, "OK, here's what's really at the core. You might not have acknowledged it, but it's there. And if you'll spend time thinking about it, you'll discover that you actually have an upper limit problem as well, and you can get past it." So I like that book for that reason very much, actually. I read, I read three books at any given time.

Brian Kelly:
Oh.

Cory Bergeron:
I have a business book that I'm reading. I have a personal improvement book that I'm reading, and I have a fiction book that I'm reading. But it's typically historical fiction because I really like history. I think that, there's a lot of value to be had. So even though the stories are are fictional, you know, as far as the characters, it's set in that time period, or in a place in the world or something like that, where there's just a lot to be garnered from the author's understanding of the culture. I really enjoy that. So, you know, I've got three going on at any given time.

Brian Kelly:
I love that. And it gives you variety. After a while, business can get dry. It depends on the book, though, and who wrote it and...

Cory Bergeron:
It's not. I also, I've discovered that, there was a time, that I told myself I wasn't going to read fiction, because fiction took me outside of reality. And when you come back to reality, you can make reality gray a little bit. It can make it pale, like it's, you know, reality can be not as exciting as it is in the book. And if you spend too much time in the book, then reality isn't as fun. Right. And I want reality to be fun. But what I did discover, is that as a creative and, you know, in my business, we work in a highly creative industry, as a creative. My own imagination and my creativity is stimulated by reading other people's creative works. So I found that, I was actually kind of you know, I was. I was. I was taking away some inspiration that I actually need a dose of on a regular basis just to keep my own imagination and creativity spooling at optimum.

Brian Kelly:
That's cool. It's kind of like a catalyst that adds juice to the up, to the reality, right? Yeah. Ken Wentworth is Mr. Biz. He came in a little earlier and said "Too many fall victim to this mindset". He was talking about, when you said the veil, when people have this veil in front of them, they can't even see it. Yes. So agree. Ken is an amazing guy. I love this guy and he loves the three pronged reading approach. I find that very interesting myself. You're the first one I've ever had on this show to reveal that, that you read fiction, but you read it with a purpose. And I loved it.

Cory Bergeron:
I do. I just listen to, I listen to my heart and I listen to my mind. You know what, what do I need to consume today? What is, what's calling to me? And then I'll pick up the next chapter of that book so I can tell you right now, I have, let me see. I'm rereading my one of my favorite books of all time. It's called "How Green was My Valley" by Richard Llewellyn. It's a story of a guy who grew up in coal mining territory in Wales, absolutely loved that book. My father read it to me when I was a child, so I've got that one going. I'm reading the the self-improvement book called "Oneness". Amazing book. Absolutely amazing. I'm about three quarters of the way through that one, really opening your eyes to a lot of things you hadn't considered. And then the business book, I actually just wrapped a business book. I actually just wrapped Grant. Cardon's "Be obsessed to be average". And I'm, I'm actually shuffling through my library and looking for my next one right now. So I'm not sure what the next one will be yet.

Brian Kelly:
I literally got obsessed with that book.

Cory Bergeron:
Yeah, there's a, there's a lot of, a lot of good stuff in there.

Brian Kelly:
I read every one of his books. I forget there's ten, there's a lot, there's even a little booklet and I read them all. If he's come out with a new one in the last year or two, I missed it, but yeah. Gosh, "Ten X started it for me. I was like, oh goodness.

Cory Bergeron:
Powerful book.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. So then I started working those 12 to 17 hour days, but not because of that. It didn't hurt. It says it's OK. Yeah, but phenomenal. Phenomenal. Oh I. Right. And so look, I was telling everyone on the show to take notes, and for those of you that are watching on video, you can see I am a product of the product. I'm not going to suggest you do anything I myself wouldn't do, or don't do. So, and I'm the producer, director and part of the talent, because the real talent right here next to me, that's Cory right there. He's the talent. So, it takes many skills to run and operate a business. As I'm, opened the show talking about skill sets and all the various ones. Now, they don't have to be skill sets you personally have mastered. But where you are today, not, not looking back, but right now at the stage you are in now, what would you say are several, let's say, three of the top skill sets that you feel are necessary to continually maintain and improve your business?

Cory Bergeron:
Hmm. So are we talking about, and I just want to make sure I'm interpreting the word skills accurately. Are we talking about a person's abilities, or are we talking about a person's gifts, so to speak?

Brian Kelly:
I would go for a combination because, I think they're equally as, they may not be equally as important, in my my humble opinion. We can talk about that in a minute, but OK. All right. Or both is fine.

Cory Bergeron:
This it's what I would say. I would say, when it comes to a person's own, their own gifts, their own makeup, I would say that an entrepreneur needs to be eternally hungry to learn, needs to be a continual student. The second thing, is that they need to have a strong, unshakable sense of belief in what they're doing so, that they have the vision to follow through. They need to have the focus. And the last thing I would say is they, need to be courageous. And, you know, there's a difference between bravery and courage. A lot of people don't understand this, but I'll share with you briefly what I learned about it. So, bravery is feeling no fear at all. It's just saying there's something that people call big and scary. And I'm not scared at all. But courage, is seeing what is fearful, feeling all of that fear, and deciding to confront it anyway. That's courage, and an entrepreneur needs to have those three things. Now, if we're talking about just raw skills, I would say an entrepreneur needs to develop their financial savviness. Be financially savvy, because at the end of the day, you cannot make smart decisions for your business unless you know how to interpret your books, how to find trends within those books, and then capitalize on those trends by scaling and developing your business based on what the money tells you. And there is an incredible book that actually breaks down how to do that very effectively. What is it, something about the insanely successful business? Shoot, it's not coming to mind right now. I'm sorry.

Brian Kelly:
When it comes back, I want to know what that is because.

Cory Bergeron:
Yeah, yeah, I can always shoot it over to you, and you can inform everybody after the fact if you need to. But it's, it's it's not a heavy read, but it's just really tightly packed with great info. Financial savviness is important. And let me tell you, that's coming from a guy who oh, let me tell you how bad I struggled in math. All right. I was a communication guru, but when it came to doing math, oh, God, that was not my thing. And still to this day, you know, I get the high level reports that I can read to make good financial decisions. But, I have an entire team, that takes care of lining up the digits, and making sure everything's balanced and reconciled, and all that. I don't get into that. I hire experts, and then I get the high level reports that I can then break down. So, you know, like you said earlier, Brian, you don't, you don't hammer away at, you capitalize on the things that you're really good at and you bring in really skilled teams to take care of the things that you're not really good at. So, so that's what I do. So that's the first thing is finances. Second thing is, I would say you need to, you need to be very, very strong in sales because selling is everything. Sales is the lifeblood of any business. If you can't sell. And by the way, belief goes, you know, belief is a big part of that, because if you don't believe in what you're selling, then you'll never sell it to anybody. You need to sell yourself first. Right? But then everything is sales after that. Every conversation you're having, every smile you give, every handshake, everything is sales. And you need to understand the mindset of the person you're talking to, and you need to understand how to cultivate those sales, which ultimately happens through relationship.

Brian Kelly:
Yes.

Cory Bergeron:
So that's number two. And number three, I would say, is having a mind for infrastructure, because if you can't systematize, and process things in your business, then your business will only ever be as big as you are, or as fast as you can personally move. You need to be able to scale. And really, the only, unless you start a business that you are so passionate about, that you see yourself doing it for the next 60 years of your life and passing it on to your children, which is usually not the case. Most people start a business to sell it right? You get a bigger investment on, or you get a bigger return on the investment of your own, your own entrepreneurial journey, than you do for most financial investments that you can make. I mean, you can start a business and sell it for two million in a year or more. If you really know what you're doing, and you're in the right field. Well,at, tell me who you can go out and get a twenty thousand dollar loan from, and get a two million dollar return on it within 12 months? That's not a whole lot of, not a whole lot of things you can do to give yourself that kind of return. Your business is, it can give you that kind of return, but it takes vision, and it takes infrastructure and systems and processes, so you can scale quickly. And otherwise it's, it's just you, you know, and you will always end up being the bottleneck in your business. So I think those are the three things that are really, really important.

Brian Kelly:
Gosh, I mean, I hope everyone out there has writer's cramp. I know. I know. I almost do. I was trying to write as fast as I can to, get all this down. Just absolute golden nugget after Golden Nugget. I don't know where to begin, but I mean, when you said sales, and the word belief, that, that's the biggest thing, if you don't believe what you're selling, so many people start like a home based business, for instance, and they're in it just for the money, but they don't really believe in the concept of the product. And you can, it's kind of like a dog sensing fear, that they don't believe,people will sense it. They just do, and they're not going to. But your passion is not showing through. So it's going to be a, a tough a tough road. And then when you start talking about scaling, systematizing infrastructure, all that, my, my ears got even bigger because that is so true, because every, most people start out as a solo partner, and then they quickly approach burnout because if their company starts growing, now they're handling everything. But, now they're handling it on a scale I mean, it's grown and there's no way. So, yeah, have that in mind. I always tell folks to. Even though you're just starting put it in your mind now, that you're going to get a team, and you're going to do it quickly, and soon, and get in the habit of doing it, and start nurturing your leadership skills by doing that now, rather than waiting till later and realize, "I suck at leadership, this isn't going to work out. So you immediately. Gosh, here we go. Oh, so...

Cory Bergeron:
Let me mention this. When it comes to, when it comes to, the entrepreneurial journey, and understanding the difference between, you know, being, being a solo partner or being a small business, a really great book for, that is, is, what's the. Oh, it's the quadrant they do, you know what I'm talking about the it's... What's that?

Brian Kelly:
Robert Kiyosaki?That's it. That's it. It's called what? The the something something quadrant. I mean, I can see it. I can see the cover, but that's a, that's an awesome book for that. Another one. A great one is "The E Myth."

Brian Kelly:
That's right.

Cory Bergeron:
And Michael Gerber and I, we know each other. We attend the same business mastermind together. He's the author of "The E Myth". And just really, really, really insightful. It'll, it'll bring you down to brass tacks and tell you, hey, listen, let's, take, let's do a little self-analysis here. Are you being an entrepreneur or are you not? Right, that book does a nice job.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. There was some point in the book he said "If you, if you have no systems in your business, then you have no business."

Cory Bergeron:
Right.

Brian Kelly:
And I remember the first time I read that, I didn't have systems yet, and it was like, wham! I'm like, wait a minute. What do you mean I don't have that? And the other one was, "Built to sell", Was another book. When you said to sell it, I learned this from a mentor of mine who was like, even if you're not going to sell your business, if you don't have that in your mind when you first start, it doesn't matter if you build it as if you are going to sell it, you will step away, and you won't be nurturing that little infant, that little baby that's yours. And nobody else knows how to run my business like I do. So you can't do any part of it. Instead, if you're building it to sell, you're stepping back, much sooner, and you're allowing others to operate the business, as they should, while you run the entire thing with, you're the visionary, the CEO. And I just, that, that spoke volumes to me. Everything you've said is like, I hope people are taking notes again. This is, this is the model for success. All you have to do is model this guy. That's it. Just model Cory, joke over, done. That's it. I mean, it's really, it is. So, it's simple but it's not easy. Right? People can, you just need to model someone. I always tell folks that there are many. So look. Could I could I bake a cake? I've never done it, in my life, but there are a lot of recipe books out there. Yeah, I'm pretty confident I could make a really darn good cake, given a good recipe. I know, I can get certain ingredients of certain quality, but mix them up, further instructions. Just follow the instructions. That's it. Mix them up, put them in the oven, follow the instructions. How high do I turn the heat?, When does it comes out? I can make a pretty darn good cake, never done in my life. Same, the same thing, happens with success in business. All you need is a recipe. All you need is someone who has achieved great success, that you could follow and model. And if they're willing to help you, Cory says he's involved in mastermind's. I mean, did you catch that? Did you catch that, Cory? Is in a mastermind with Michael Gerber, the author of "The E Myth Revisited?" I mean, come on. He's doing everything that I've ever read or, or seen, or heard of successful people. What they do, he's modeling success. That's what Corey's doing. That's how he got there. And that's how he continues to strive and grow. So I'm excited. I feel passionate right now. I hope it's coming through. I love what I get to do and I'm so happy.

Cory Bergeron:
I love seeing you get all worked up. Brian, this is great.

Brian Kelly:
All right. I got to figure out. Work you up. Let's talk hiking.

Cory Bergeron:
Hiking. Oh, man. Now that's, see if you get me talking about hiking this just be a really long monologue. I love to hike.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, that's, that's phenomenal. What I do want to talk more about is your specific business, particularly. I love everything to do with video. I, it, just intrigues me to no end, sitting there in your beautiful house, which if everyone, anyone, just joined us later that, that's watching on video. He's sitting in his own studio, where he produces videos, and he just did a shoot recently, where he's sitting right now. And it's beautiful. It looks natural. I mean, obviously, the guy's a pro. Who is it that you serve? Number one, is like, what what type of client, and what is, what kind of services does your company provide, that would help people move forward and whatever they're doing with you and your company?

Cory Bergeron:
Sure. So we are a full service video production company and digital marketing agency. We have a large studio here, just outside of Tampa, Florida. We do shoot in this studio as well as out on location. We have trucks that go out, and and teams, that, that will shoot all around the Tampa Bay area here. And typically, we produce video, everything from small little, fifteen to twenty second social media content videos, right up to national television commercials. We spend most of our time these days, simply because the demand is greatest, in the digital marketing arena. You know, most brands are really looking to crack the digital marketing nut. They want brand awareness. They want customer conversions, they want to drive audience engagement. And that's what we're really, really good at. So a lot of the customer psychology knowledge that I have, buyer psychology, knowledge and a lot of that same knowledge that my team has, having come from a very strong and seasoned product sales background, we bring that all to the table when we're doing digital marketing, which is the other side of my company other than video production. So rather than just doing video production and providing the content, we now give our customers a way to monetize that. Take those same videos out online, get a return on that investment and and put some dollars back in the account. And that's exciting for us, being able to do both sides. It's really important, too, because typically when you make video, you want to speak to the marketer, so that you can align the message of your video, with ultimately the marketing campaign. Well, there was a time in our company where we didn't offer marketing. All we did was video. Adding a marketing team, to this company was part of us. Our upscaling. It was part of our own history. So when we did that, we realize now that instead of going to our clients and saying, "Hey, we want to talk to your marketing team", so we can understand their messaging and we can create video that aligns with their messaging. Now we're doing both. We're creating the messaging, we're creating the marketing messages. We're creating the entire branding image. We're creating the ads and the landing pages and everything else for the client. At the same time, sitting in the same room, during the same brainstorming sessions, is our entire video production team, talking to that marketing team and saying, "How do we produce the most compelling content possible that's going to feed into those campaigns and appeal to those exact audiences?" And that's what we do. We get both teams together, to be able to create really solid, consistent brand messaging across the board with with both the content we're producing on the video side, and all of the marketing materials. So that is what we do. And like I said before, we shoot for our target. We do business in our market. So, our target is lifestyle brands that typically encourage a healthy and active lifestyle, we're very passionate about, people who are into eating well and moving their bodies and being adventurous, we love those types of brands, but at the same time, we also end up catering to other brands that kind of surround that, because that is our market. And we just have a lot of value to offer brands that sell products and services online. Those brands are typically doing more than about a million and a half a year. We find that for our services, in order to have a long term relationship with those people, we want to make sure that, you know, they're able to, they're at a point in their business, where they can afford our services, and we can afford to bring them, the kind of value that we have really built into our infrastructure. There is a certain scale of video production that we start at, kind of as a minimum. There's a certain scale of marketing that we start at kind of as a minimum. And we found that most of our clients are about that million and a half mark, in order to be able to align with us, and have that relationship really make sense.

Brian Kelly:
It's like, well, that just adding that marketing component, as you are saying, that that's just genius. I don't know of many who do that. Not are you only a one stop, shop, but to, combine. My God. I mean, to combine video with marketing, proven marketing, to do it the way you guys do it, to interview the client, to find out what they're. Oh, my goodness. Yeah.

Cory Bergeron:
And let me say this. Let me just chime in real quick here, Brian. Yeah, I, I, I'm the CEO of the company. Sure. But I'm only as good as the people who advise me. So I seek out mentors. I seek out people who can really speak wisdom to me, and there's probably none more powerful. I know that you got to meet her before the show than my wife. Elizabeth is really the yin to my yang and everything that is a blind spot in my life, is something that is just wide open and visible to her. So I value, we've probably made more high value business decisions over coffee at six thirty in the morning on the front porch of our house than I ever made in a business mastermind. Very, very powerful that way. So when I mention the entire digital marketing team, that was something that was specifically her idea, and changed the entire conversation we have with our clients from that day forward. You know, a video production company is an expense, but a video production company with a marketing company is an investment. It's a,,

Brian Kelly:
Yes,It gives me goose bumps. I love this. This is amazing stuff. I mean, it I'm not kidding, this is, I'll peel back my sleeve so you can see them. They're real. They're, they're bumps. Let's see. Oh, so Kimberly Saint Peter said "Drop by to say hi." I know her. She's an amazing young woman on the East Coast, as are you. She's north of you in the Massachusetts area. Eric Swanson came in,"Cash Flow Quadrant." That was it.

Cory Bergeron:
"Cashflow Quadrant", that's it. Thank you.

Brian Kelly:
That is a great friend of his. He wrote co-wrote "Rich Dad,Poor Dad." That's awesome. Yes. Yes. "Grab it, Rich." OK, he's, he's recommending another one.

Cory Bergeron:
That's good. I told you, I'm looking for my next one. All right.

Brian Kelly:
Go. Right on. All right. Yeah, he wants to connect with you, Eric Swanson says, "Got to run. Give me a shout. Got some great interest for you," Speaker Eric Swanson. Awesome.

Cory Bergeron:
Thank you, Eric.

Brian Kelly:
Yes, I've seen him all over social media. That's fantastic. So. So you shot a lot of video with a lot of clients. And we're not talking just people off the street. We're talking about established clients, could be celebrities. It could be influencers in different areas. So, what would you say would be that for you, like the most, the one that really was the most intriguing celebrity or influencer that you shot, that just stands out about above the rest and why?

Cory Bergeron:
Oh, man. So let me see. Well, I've worked, I've worked with a lot, so I've worked with Natalie Cole. I've worked with Mariah Carey. I've worked with Paula Abdul. I've worked with Mr. T. I've worked with Stan Lee, my business partner in, in ,this company. An equity partner of mine is Kevin Harrington from Shark Tank. So there's, there's a lot of different people that I've come in contact with over the years and that I've worked with in one capacity or another, I would say. The nicest, the nicest celebrity I ever worked with, he was incredible, was hands down, Mr. T.. I love that guy, man. He was awesome. You walked up to Mr. T.. And it was like it was like you and him had known each other for half a lifetime. And we're having a beer together. I mean, just an incredible guy, really warm and inviting. Wonderful. Probably the most intriguing conversation I had with a celebrity was Stan Lee. Stan Lee, you know, the guy who who is responsible for all the Marvel movies. You know, he actually conceptualized all that. He made cameos in all the Marvel movies he had. I was working with him on the air at the Home Shopping Network at the time. I was a director at the Home Shopping Network. This was before I went on the air and became the face of hundreds of products. I was working with Stan as a director, and I had a buddy of mine that collected Spider-Man stuff and he had a room in his house that was dedicated to Spider-Man. I mean, Spider-Man lunchboxes, and handlebars for bicycles, and jackets, and T-shirts. And like everything everywhere, it was it was, a it was a Museum of Spider-Man stuff. And when I knew that I'd be working with Stan Lee, I walked up to Stan Lee during a show and I handed him a piece of paper and I was writing on one side, and like it was just, there's a line up of products we were going to air that day. And I handed it to Stan and I said, "Hey, my buddy's name is Chris Ball. Would you mind just signing it?" And and he grabbed that paper out of my hand. He pulled a Sharpie out of his pocket, popped the can, the the cap off. He's got the cap sticking out the side of his mouth as he's mumbling out of the other side of his mouth, goes, "What did you say your friend's name was again?" And he just starts going wild on this piece of paper. And I thought to myself, I can't see what he's doing. So I'm assuming this is a really elaborate signature. Right. And he's going, and going and going. And I told him all my buddy's name is Chris and he, "Oh, yeah. Oh, that's great. How old's Chris? You know, is he Spider-Man fan? "Oh, yeah, he's a Spider-Man fan." So he's going on. He goes, "Hey, thanks a lot Cory,you did a great job with my directing today. And hands me a piece of paper that has a custom drawing of Spider-Man leaping off the side of a building, shooting webs out of his hands. And it says, you know, like, "Keep swinging Chris Ball", you know, with Stan Lee at the bottom. I mean, it was an entirely done like illustration. And I asked him for a, I asked him for a signature. And Stan Lee just passed away recently. But he lived in the same town that my family and I lived in, for a long time. And I learned that at the community center where people could sign up for free art classes and stuff like that, he would pop in and just do off the cuff, unannounced illustration lessons to all the, you know, all the folks sitting around. And just because it was just in his heart, he just loved it. He loved connecting with people.

Brian Kelly:
I Love these kind of stories where you meet the true gems in life. You know, Mr. T., Stan Lee, you know, a lot of people are probably like going Mr. T nice? I mean, after you see his characters. Right. Funny, because, I'd heard that about him before, and I could, you could see it in him, especially when you see him doing something else. He's a guest on a game show or whatever. He's just different, its interesting, because, it just popped in my head, because, I just had on the show, was like three weeks ago. Les Brown.

Cory Bergeron:
Oh yeah.

Brian Kelly:
The premier motivational speaker in the world. I met him like eight years ago in a hotel lobby, after he was on stage as a guest speaker. And you know that everybody in their brother approaches him and says hi and wants a piece of him some way somehow. And I just said, I'm always trying to be respectful. I want to I just I got to say hi. I want to get a picture with him. And he was the most kind and warm and unbelievably genuine person. I was just like, I love. It's just the same kind of reaction I love. And then I had him on the show. And of course, I'm talking to him, like I did, you before we went live. And he's just just a sweetheart, you know? And he said, you know, I'm thinking, "Oh, I'm so happy that you came on." He was like, "Thank you for having me. You are the amazing one." I mean,he was always put it on me and like, "I'm here to get answers from you, man, not the other way." And it was just so beautiful. He's a beautiful person. And I can imagine, and, I can visualize you saying that, when you said that was Mr. T.. Yeah, that's a great story. OK, we got it. We're going to have another one. What's another juicy story, or good story that comes to mind, that you are shooting somebody, for your business and your get creating video. You've got a marketing team, you've done the work, and then you have these backstories that go with your work. And I can imagine how amazing some of them must be. So, what would another one be?

Cory Bergeron:
I'll tell you. So one of the things that I learned, let's do, let's do an on air story. OK, so I'm on national television. Ninety six million people watching. I'm in prime time. And this is. This is let me see, when was this? This probably would have been about 10, 11 years ago. I'm selling the Nintendo Wii, all right. Now, at the time, the Wii was a huge deal. This is before Xbox and the Xbox was released. And, you know, I did the North American launch for the Xbox Connect for Microsoft, set all kinds of records with that one. We ran at ninety seven thousand dollars a minute in revenue on the air, which was, it was it was a record for television sales. I actually sold out of the Xbox early. We had nothing left to sell in that hour. And they ran into the green room and yanked Wolfgang Puck out of his chair, when he was halfway through makeup, threw a microphone on him and pushed him out on the air to sell cookware because we had no Xbox is left to sell. Anyway, I'm selling the Nintendo Wii and, it's about, it's about five minutes, before we're about to go to air, and the backstage team is responsible for changing out the batteries in the remote control to make sure everything's ready to go. When I walk out on the air, and I come walking out there, and they got new batteries for the remote, but they couldn't get them into the remote properly. Right. Because I was going to demonstrate how to play tennis with the Wii, and there's a little tennis racket that snaps onto the end of the Wii remote. So they're trying to get the batteries in without taking the tennis racket off. And you have to take the tennis racket off to get the batteries. So I come out on set. They've been trying to swap the batteries. They can't get the batteries into the remote. I know what's wrong. So I walk out there, and now we're, I just got my microphone check. I'm getting ready to walk out on the air. The director is in my ear. He's up here and he's counting me down. He's like, "Cory, we're going live in 60 seconds. You got 30 seconds." So I'm watching them struggle with these batteries. And I realize, look, this has got to happen now or it's just not going to be ready. So I walk over, I say, 'Here, I got it. Just give it to me." So they handed me the remote. I took the tennis racket off, slap the batteries and put the cover back on, snapped the tennis racket back on, thought, yes, everything's good to go. The director says, "Three, two, one." And I take my arm up and I start playing tennis. Now, my tennis demonstration, let me let me, be clear here, I love to play tennis like in real life, not just in, not just on the Wii? OK. And I have a serve, that is like unreturnable. I mean, when I hit it just right. Oh, man. It is fast. It is hard. It is right at the end of the box. I mean, people leap to try and get it. It's, a it's a really powerful serve. I spent a lot of time developing that serve. Well, I know, I'm no wimp when it comes to playing wii tennis. Right? My arm is doing all the same movements, that I'm going to do out on the tennis court. I'm coming up like this, and coming down, about halfway through the broadcast, I turn to the camera and I say "And take a look, the wii, tracks, all your motions. And you just got to serve it." And I brought my hand down, and the tennis racket attachment flew off the end of the remote, and on national television, smashed the TV set in front of me. The whole screen smashed. Right? And then, the tennis racket rebounds off the screen goes flying back through the studio. This way, the camera operator jumped up in the air. It went sliding under his feet and out into the hallway. That was like, I don't know, must have been 60, 80 feet away was the hallway. And my show host starts laughing. Now she becomes completely useless, right? There's two people on the air. There's me and there's the show host. I'm the product expert. She's there to close the sale. She starts laughing. They have to bring her mug down. She walks over, and she's leaning against the wall on the side of the set, shaking with laughter. And the director gets in my ear, he cuts away. He goes to, to be, so, he's looking at support video of children playing the Wii in their home and stuff. No one can see what's going on on the set. And I'm standing there with a smashed television set. That's supposed to be my demonstration. There's still six minutes left to this presentation. So I looked at the camera and he says in my ear, "Cory, I can't come back and show you with that TV there." Right? So I look at him and I go like this and I. I move my body and he goes, "Oh, OK. I see what you're doing. Take a little step to your left." So I go like that. He goes, "Perfect, stand there." And he comes back to me, and my body, was covering up the smash in the TV, and all the cracks, and everything are back here. And so I continued to sell the camera, and sure enough, we sold the wii out. But the next, I didn't realize how big a deal that was. Two point five million hits overnight, on the video that somebody posted on YouTube.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, yeah.

Cory Bergeron:
Within twenty four hours. Somebody had made a music video of it, of me smashing the TV in slow motion to some techno song. And I didn't think it was a big deal until I learned it was on Keith Olbermann s top ten. It was the front page of Yahoo! The the local radio station, the biggest radio station in the Tampa Bay area. The next morning, I'm driving into work and they're talking on the radio and the saying, "Has somebody seen this moron smash, the TV on national television." They can't be talking about me. And next thing you know, you hear my broadcast anyway. So, this is, that when abysmal failure just comes out of nowhere unanticipated and smacks you across the face, the absolute best thing you can possibly do is be purely authentic, accept it for what it was, laugh it off and realize that that won't matter at all an hour from now.

Brian Kelly:
Until it goes on YouTube.

Cory Bergeron:
It was on YouTube. And then, when you learn, that you got two point five million hits that fast, you'll wonder why you didn't smash a TV a long time ago. You know, I, you do that. I could have done that at the beginning of my career. It would have been a bigger career.

Brian Kelly:
I think I would have done the same thing for co-host, did, because I just did it. I laughed my butt off. I am crying over here. It's like I can just visualize, and just what do you do now? And you just got to keep going. And think on your feet and what, a what a great way to take, what could have been a tragedy and turn it around. You know, a lot of people could have said,"Fade to black,let's go to the next."

Cory Bergeron:
But, you are not defined by your most recent failure ever.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, yeah.

Cory Bergeron:
So make sure, you know, I've had days when I drove home from being on the air and I realized that something had gone sideways. And I didn't make those numbers, the numbers that I expected, that, I held myself to. I didn't make those numbers when I drove home that day. And I felt very, very low. And I just had to keep reminding myself, "Cory, it's fine." It's fine, because you're not defined by your failures. Your failures are learning experiences. You take the knowledge that they are there to give you. You move on, you capitalize on it. As a matter of fact, the most successful people in history, I've read a number of books that said they actually sought to fail continually, because it was through failure, that they learned the most powerful lessons and they weren't defined by them. They were defined,by their their commitment and focus to moving forward, having learned from the failure itself.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I've heard it many times "Fail fast, fail often", so you can learn, and adjust, and you'll get to a greater level of success as a result of failing so many times so quickly. Just, oh, my goodness, can't be only three minutes left. But, you know, we're not in a studio. We don't have a commercial coming on. There's a couple of things. If you don't mind staying a little bit after the hour, because this is good stuff. You can't get over it. It's amazing. Oh, my goodness. So there's a couple of things I want to also point out is, one is how can folks get in touch with you the best way? And to do that, I'm going to just basically pull up your website just for a moment and have you coach people through, what the best way would be to connect with you. Should they be in that genre that you're looking, for a business to help them out with their video and marketing prowess?

Cory Bergeron:
Sure. So right now you're at PITCHMEDIA.Com, and if you just click the contact us button up there on the top menu, you'll see it'll pop right up with a little form fill. And that immediately, gets seen by my executive assistant who will then line something up so I can speak to you. In some cases I get to see it directly. So just make sure that you fill that out thoroughly, and you can get in touch with me that way, you can also go to CoryBergeron.Com, if you'd like. You can read a little bit more about me, and there is a way to get in touch with me there as well.

Brian Kelly:
On that note, I understand that the well read one is also a author.

Cory Bergeron:
Yes,

Brian Kelly:
Yes, So if you wouldn't mind, let's just do a quick plug for your book, because I think what you have, in your brain, needs to be in many other people's brains, and their eyes, and their hearts to help them succeed. And whatever it is you've written, I'm sure, is gold. So let's highlight that for a moment, if you don't mind.

Cory Bergeron:
Sure. Absolutely. So my book is called "Thousands Per Minute The Art of Pitching Products on Camera." And, it's really, I love to tell stories. So the book is written in an easily consumable fashion. Every single chapter is just laden with the kind of stories that I just told you here about the wii, as a matter of fact, I think the story might be in there. If you get the book specifically, look for the chapter on the product called The Crevice Stopper, and I won't go any further with that. OK, we've got out there. All right. Anyway, lots of great stories in that book about being on television, and all kinds of stuff behind the scenes, that kind of thing. But each chapter, is really wrapped around the core of what I understand about customer psychology. You have to remember, that, I was a director for 10 years, sitting there, watching the incoming call volume and retail television, and learning, as the person who ultimately chose every camera, every piece of audio, everything that the viewer saw across the country. I had to watch incoming calls, who was buying, who was not, how many dollars per minute we were making, who had it in their shopping cart. And I had to program a show second to second, that would maximize the satellite time based upon all that data. Then I became the guy that went around the other side of the camera and became one of the only people in history, to go from production behind the camera, to talent in front of it. And I've been the face of about three hundred and fifty different products on national television at this point. All, and I was the guy, scripting the demonstration, scripting the pitches, learning what people needed to see, and hear and ultimately feel to commit to a buying decision in a short period of time. And I put all that knowledge into that book. So there's a lot there.

Brian Kelly:
I'm definitely picking that bad boy up. Oh, my goodness. That sounds sounds amazing, because you are. And the fact that you took that, in transition in front of the camera, you have what no one else had, and that, was all that back end experience, and knowledge of why that person in front of the camera is saying what they're saying at that moment.

Cory Bergeron:
Right.

Brian Kelly:
I mean, I'm I'm like preaching to the people. Watching and listening, is like, you see everything that Cary put into his craft. And then he took it to the next level and took what he learned and pulled it with him to crush it, in front of the camera. Now, it'd be for everyone to ask themselves, how could they do something like that? And what they're working on, you know, become an expert at what you do and then what can you do to leverage that expertise, and go forward and even farther. Fantastic. Oh, my goodness. All right. There's one final question I like to ask every guest before we close the show. And don't go anywhere, for those you watching live. Hint, hint, there is one final question I like to ask, and it can be deep for some people. And it is very personal. It is a very personal question. And I love asking it because the the responses have been,just really intriguing and. And some, some guests take a little while and they think about it, and it takes them a few moments. That's OK. And also, if it comes to instantly, that's OK as well. But before we jump into that, I promised everyone that they could win a five, night stay at a five star luxury resort, compliments of my pals at the Big Insider Secrets. I'm going to put it up on screen, and say it out loud so you know exactly how to enter. You now have my permission and Cory's permission, to take your gaze away from the screen for just a moment. If you're not already on a phone, and pull out your phone, bring up your texting app, and what you want to do is, where you're going to say who you're going to text, instead of typing in a person's name, type in the phone number of three one four six six five one seven six seven. And then, down in the area where you would type in your message, just type the words PEAK, that's P-E-A-K with a hyphen or a dash if you prefer. And the word vacation right behind that, no spaces. So, PEAK-VACATION, go ahead and do that right now. You'll be entered to win a random drawing for a five nights stay, in a five star, luxury resort. Compliments of The Big Insider Secrets. Jason West and company. Do that right now, because we are coming back to the man, the myth, the legend, Cory Bergeron with the question of the night. And so here's the thing,Cory, there's a little bit of buildup, it was on purpose. Here's the thing with this question. There is no such thing as a wrong answer. It doesn't exist. It's impossible. And in fact, just the opposite is the case. The only correct answer is your answer. That's the personal part of it. So, now that there's absolutely no pressure whatsoever, and your curiosity can't just be at the absolute peak that it's ever been. Are you ready?

Cory Bergeron:
I'm ready. Hit me.

Brian Kelly:
All right. I knew it. Here we go. Cory Bergeron. How do you define success?

Cory Bergeron:
Hmm. I would say success to me. Is. A complete realization of personal freedom, and utter harmony with the people around me in the world, around me. And, I think in those things. Every other. Every other definition of success just kind of falls in line. You don't need to overthink this type of success or that type of success. It's almost like asking the genie lamp, wishing for more wishes. You know, if you have those two things, then every other every other definition, definition of success is at your fingertips. So that would be my answer.

Brian Kelly:
Well, and true to form, you know, that again, no two people have answered that the same way. I've interviewed over one hundred successful entrepreneurs. That's why I ask that question. I began noticing, "Hey, no one's answering that the same way." It's so personal and so powerful. And I'll be coming back to you later, asking your permission, to put that into a collaborative book of all those who had answered that same question. And just call it, "How do you define success?" And compile that, and and share it with the world. Because here's the thing. Success is very personal. It's very subjective, because what, what it meant to you and I, when we were in our 20s is nothing close to what it means to us now right? and ever changing, ever evolving.

Brian Kelly:
That's why I find it so fascinating, to see and hear what people like Cory Bergeon,think right now. How does he define success? People like Les Brown, people like Tom Antione, people like Dr. Reuben West. I mean, it's amazing, and I am so blessed to be able to have people like you on the show, to share your brilliance with not with me, with everyone else who's watching and listening. So I want to just take a moment and say how much I appreciate you, Cory, for coming on and spending your time with, not just myself, but everyone who's watching and listening. Thank you to your wonderful wife who is helping in the wings. We appreciate her as well. Elizabeth.

Cory Bergeron:
Right there, like, yes. Feet away from me,

Brian Kelly:
You could call her...

Cory Bergeron:
Here she is.

Brian Kelly:
I was going say,she's your right hand woman. And there was a right hand that was perfect. Perfect.

Cory Bergeron:
With me always.

Brian Kelly:
I love that. And I love a success story when it comes to the wonderful world of marriage. My wife and I, high school sweethearts, still going strong and just love it. Love everything about it. Love you, man. I appreciate you. But if we could part with one final word of wisdom from you, that you could just put on, to anyone who might be struggling, looking for, how do I finally break through, and actually get that moment of, "Gee, I finally did something where I feel successful." If there was one bit of advice you could give them along those lines, what might that be?

Cory Bergeron:
It would be. Million things racing through my head that it could be, but let me say this, let me say, and I'm going to rewind back to something that's probably already been said, but it's it really is at the core of everything. You must, you must believe, beyond a shadow of a doubt, what you are capable of, and in what you are doing, and, if for some reason, there's, a lack of belief there, you need to look very deeply as to why that exists and figure out, can you believe in yourself and what you're doing? And if your answer is no to that, then you need to find something else that you should be doing, because belief is at the core of everything. You can't sell something you don't believe in. You can't build something you don't believe in. You can't have success. When you can't see that success, you must believe. So that would be at the beginning of everything before, you even think about putting a single dime into building anything, that would be at the core. Yeah, my, my wife, Elizabeth, just another awesome, awesome book, "Start with why.

Brian Kelly:
Yes.

Cory Bergeron:
Incredible book. Figure out what your why is and then build around that.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, and I couldn't agree more. My why, turned out, I've gone through a process to determine what it is three, different times, expecting I might get three different answers. Each time it came up for me, it was my wife, and that's, what I will crawl over, broken glass for miles for, for our extended happiness and time together. So everyone's is different. Some maybe their spouse as well. But yeah, it's important to have that because when times get tough and gosh, do they ever get tough. Get a lot.

Cory Bergeron:
Yes. Count on it.

Brian Kelly:
Exactly.

Cory Bergeron:
The journey worth taking is never the one that's easy.

Brian Kelly:
Yes. But boy is it rewarding.

Cory Bergeron:
It is,rewarding.

Brian Kelly:
Cory, thank you once again, my friend. I so appreciate you. And that's our show for tonight, everybody, on behalf of this amazing young man, Cory Bergeron, I am Brian Kelly, the host of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. And we will see you all again next week. Until then, so long and be blessed for now. See later, everybody.

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