Special Guest Expert - Jaime Jay

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Brian Kelly:
So here's the big question How are entrepreneurs like us who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward only to fall two steps back, who are dedicated, determined and driven? How did we finally break through? And with that is the question. And this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly. And this is The Mind Body Business Show. Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to the Mind Body Business Show. We have a phenomenal, phenomenal guest lined up for you tonight. I cannot wait to introduce you to this young man. Jamie. Jay is in the house. He is in the green room waiting for me to lift him up and bring him up to the stage. And that's really exactly why I'm here, is to lift up and really get great exposure for amazing entrepreneurs and like Jamie, because that is what we do here. On the mind body business show. We interview successful entrepreneurs from all over the world. And the reason I interview them is because I like to elicit and extract their secrets to their success for the sole purpose of you being able to take those secrets, to take notes and then put those secrets in action so that you can achieve the same or even more greater level of success than our guests have. And that is the whole purpose of this show is twofold, is to give you what you need to take your business to the next level and is to give my guests the exposure they so greatly deserve and get their name out and spread out. Because the people I have on my show are so heart centered. And it would be a disservice if we did not spread their name and their beautiful minds with the rest of the world. I think you would agree with that, especially when you see and meet people like Jamie, who's coming on very soon, I promise. So that's what the mind body business show is all about. It's about what I call the three pillars of success, and that came from literally about ten years of studying only successful people. I started focusing on what makes someone else perhaps more successful than yours truly.

Brian Kelly:
What is it about them that's different that makes them even more successful? And these three pillars, these three things kept bubbling up to the top. And you might have guessed what those are. They are indeed the very title of this show, mind being mind set. Now to a person. Each of these individuals that were successful had very positive, powerful. And the most important part here's the kicker very flexible mindset and body literally meant and means that they took care of themselves and take care of themselves, both physically and nutritionally. It's that simple. And then business is multi, multi multifaceted. I love business because the topic of it is what I mean because there are so many skill sets that one must master in order to build a successful thriving business and then to take that business and scale it and grow it and bring in more customers to serve more people. That is why Jamie Jay is here tonight. You're going to learn how you can scale your business to the moon and really up your game and bring in more and more clients, serve them, help more people, make more money so you can continue to scale and grow. I cannot wait to get into that with Jamie here in just a moment. Many skill sets are needed to master. The good news is if you only master one skill set, I mean, what are we talking about? We're talking like marketing, sales, team building, systematizing leadership. I mean, I can keep going for quite some time. The good news is you don't have to master every single one of them because let's face it, mastering just one takes a long time. Mastering anything takes a lifetime. If you just master the one skill set of leadership, then you now have the cornerstone of all skill sets to then bring in higher joint venture with those who already have mastered the skill sets that you have yet to or may never master just because the sheer time involved with all of them. So concentrate on mastering the skill set of leadership first or refocus on that now. And even if you don't have a team, focus on leading yourself and go through a whole topic on that for another time.

Brian Kelly:
Just focus on mastering leadership and you will see incredible things happen and you'll be able to quickly develop a system and a team that Jamie Jay, who is coming on in just a moment, will help you with. And I can't wait to get to that detail as well and to a person. Another thing I noticed about these incredibly successful people was that they were all also very voracious readers of books. And with that, I want to segway very briefly into a segment I affectionately call bookmarks.

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Brian Kelly:
Why is that? I myself was not a voracious reader until about 11 years ago at the age the ripe age of 47, right? Yes. You're all doing the math. You now know where I stand to date. That's good. I love it and I own it. And so I began reading at about the age of 47, and I began listening to books on Audible. And that was the key for me. I did not like using my eyeballs to read. I didn't even know that that was one of the issues that kept me from reading. And so I started listening and I've listened to many books since then. Not every book I've ever listened to has made it to this list. In fact, I am well behind, but not every book I have read and finished is even on this list. Only those that have had profound impact on me, either in my professional life, my personal life, or even both. And I just started having them add it to the site willy nilly. I mean, there is no rhyme or reason. They're not alphabetic, they're not my author, they're just thrown in there. So just scroll through there, find the first book that resonates with you that you have not read, or maybe you want to read it again. Go pick it up off your shelf. If you already have it, go buy it. It doesn't have to be From this website you can go to anywhere. Your favorite bookstore, Amazon. All these buttons go straight to Amazon. It doesn't matter. The point of this is to give you a gift, something that another successful entrepreneur has vetted every one of these books. So the odds of you not wasting your time on reading a book are greatly increased. I can't guarantee it'll give you the same result that did for me. Oh my God. The four agreements. That's one of my favorite. Like Don Miguel Ruiz. So I can't guarantee you'll get the same results I did. But at least the odds are increased that you will get positive results by reading books because they are life changers. I kid you not.

Brian Kelly:
Speaking of life changers, we've got one waiting in the wings that's going to literally change your life. I'm not kidding. You cannot. I can't wait to have him on. And my God. Here we go. Let's just bring him on. So Brian quit stammering. Jamie, Jay is coming on right now. Here we go.

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It's time for the guest expert spotlight, savvy, skillful, professional, adept, trained. Big league qualified.

Brian Kelly:
And there is, ladies and gentlemen. Yes, it is the one. It is the. Only. Jamie. Jay. Hey, Jamie. How are you doing, my friend?

Jaime Jay:
I'm doing good, Brian. What? What an incredible intro there. Fantastic.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. Every word was true of you, for sure. And I just want to know, when did when did this top stop touring? Loving the beard. Man, it is awesome. You're rocking the beard. And I'll tell everyone before we get into the show, I've gotten to know Jamie, not for a very long time. We had a good chat some time ago, several months ago, really connected with this guy. And then just before this show, what an amazing man. What an amazing heart he has. And I'm so blessed to be able to share him with you because I think he is making a big difference in our world in a positive way in so many ways. And you'll find out another reason why when I formally introduce him in a moment. But with things that take money to operate, we need to do some housekeeping, as I like to call it. And what's more like bookkeeping, if you think about it. But what we're going to do is bring up a few ad spots and then Jamie and I will be back. So don't go anywhere. Hang with us. Watch this and we'll be right back. So we'll be here. Here we go. Hey, if you're watching the Mind Body business show live right now, then you will have the ability to win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort of your choosing, compliments of the big insider Secrets. What is it? It is a five night vacation Stay to one of many destinations across the world. You can see as we go through this very quickly, there are some in Branson and Daytona Beach. These are in the United States, all over the United States, New Orleans, San Diego. There's also Mexico. There's also the UK and Argentina. I mean, it just keeps going on and on and on. Australia, at the end of this show, you will be given the ability to enter to win. You must be watching this live. If you're not watching live, then head on over to the mind body business show com and register to receive automated notifications when we go live the next time. We do not spam, we do not even pitch any products or anything from that notification.

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Brian Kelly:
Jay likes networking with big picture thinkers and proudly proclaims he is unemployable. I love that one. In his spare time, he enjoys playing hockey, riding his Harley-Davidson camping, boating, playing guitar, shooting guns, traveling and spending time with his wife, Sarah, and their dog, Nikita. With that. Ladies and gentlemen, officially, I'm formally welcome to the show. Mr. Jamie Jay. Yes. Oh, man, I am so excited for this, Jamie. Because of you and what you bring to the table. And I was just curious if you wouldn't mind opening up with a quick little story. We were talking before the show, and and again, I'll say this now publicly. I said it to you privately. Thank you for your service, for help, for serving this amazing country of ours deeply in gratitude and debt for you choosing to do that for us, for all of us, including yourself and your family and your loved ones. So thank you from the bottom of my heart for serving this wonderful country of ours. I want to see find out is, do you have any stories from your old paratrooper days when you were jumping out of perfectly healthy flying aircraft that we're not going to crash. You just jumped out of them anyway. Do you have. Any for that?

Jaime Jay:
Yeah, we were talking I said I did have one story and it's kind of funny. You know, it usually brings up a pretty good chuckle, but in basic training you get assigned a roster number and that's what they call you. Don't call you by your name, your number 127. That was my roster number and basic. Well, I had the same roster number 127 and jump school after I graduated Basic and eight Then I go on to jump school and I was I was going to be assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division. And so we get there and everywhere you can jump school, you got to double time. You're running everywhere. And it's funny. And we went through the first two weeks of training and then the last week of training, you actually do five jumps to get your certification and get your jump wings. Well, I was walking in there called Chalks, but their lines and there's there's four lines, There's two in board and two out board. And I was walking in and I was I don't know. Probably 10th or 11th in line. And one of the jump masters goes one, two, seven back at the back of Chalk one. And I'm like, Oh, thank the Lord, I'm going to be the last one, you know? And I was like, Cool. Because I was nervous, as I say, with everybody else. And so we board the plane and takes off and, you know, we're sitting down. And then it dawned on me, Wait a second, I was the last person on. That means I'm going to be the first the very first person.

Brian Kelly:
So the command.

Jaime Jay:
Start out for personnel, stand.

Brian Kelly:
Up.

Jaime Jay:
You know, hook up, sound off for equipment, check, check, static line. All the commands are going. And when they say sound off for equipment, check, basically what that means is the very last person I'm the first person. I'm in the back, but the very last person turns around. The second person checks their equipment and he turns around and then you slap them on the behind and they say, okay. And that goes on all the way up through the line. And then I feel that big slap on my behind and and I'm supposed to take one authoritative full step forward handed at 45 degree angle, looking at the jump master in his eyes. And I'm supposed to say all okay, jump, master. And that's the signal for us to go. And I stepped up and I thought I said that. But what actually came out was I.

Brian Kelly:
Couldn't I.

Jaime Jay:
Couldn't formulate the sentence correctly. And he goes, What did you say? You yell.

Brian Kelly:
And it was so it was crazy.

Jaime Jay:
Then the, you know, they finally got it out.

Brian Kelly:
Okay, I'll.

Jaime Jay:
Jump, master, and I'm freaking out. And there's a big yellow line. You go stand your toes on that line and the door opens and all this winds flying after they call the 30 seconds and all that stuff is done. And so I'm standing there on the door. He goes, Just don't look down when that light turns green, what are you going to do? I said, I'm going to jump, jump master. And he says, That's right. Just don't look down. I looked down. The trees are this big. And it was just scary. And and sure enough, that light turned green and I went out and when you jump out, you count 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000. And if your chute doesn't automatically open, you hit your reserve. Well, I jumped out and it was. My chute opened, I was like, Man, this is freaking fantastic. I love this. All the sudden you fall 22 feet a second in a dash. Bravo. A parachute is what we're. And you can't control them. You just barely pull a slip in. And, boy, that ground was coming up quick. And boy, man, I rushed into that and I landed and my training kicked in, so I was fine. But it's the equivalent of jumping off about a 12 foot wall is how hard you fall. So you really got to learn how to fall. Right? And boy, it was just I was checking myself, Am I still here? Like and so that was my that was my first experience.

Brian Kelly:
I love it. And it's like, man, there's so many parallels here. It's like business. It's like taking that leap of faith in your own business. And it's scary. It's never. And usually what I say is, you know, I've learned a lot on mindset trained in NLP neuro linguistic programing. What I've learned is when you're feeling that that trepidation, but you know it's good for you, that is your subconscious telling you go, this is what you need to do. You know, get get in, get used to being uncomfortable, you know, get comfortable with being uncomfortable. Somebody else coined that phrase. I think that's perfect. And what a great I mean, you didn't say this on purpose to be a metaphor for business, but it truly is because it's like life. And then when you hit the ground and you successfully completed that, you felt elated and fantastic. And that's the way it is with business even every single day. I mean, I had so many victories today, little micro victories, but man, it felt like I landed and my knees were intact and I'm okay. And so it's very similar. I was like, Man, I was right living it with you. So thank you for that. That is amazing. Absolutely. We used to work in corporate America. So what was your strategy? How did you. There are there are so many people I've run into and I've been in this situation myself personally. And so I'm very familiar with, you know, working with others who don't want to work, who don't want to work for another company, but have no clue how to sever those ties, how to how to release themselves of those shackles, you know, because you're getting paid on a regular basis either every week, every two weeks, every month, whatever it is. But you know that paycheck is coming. Becoming an entrepreneur is scary because you never know where your next one's coming for you. What was the key or keys to break free from corporate? Did they help you to break free by pushing you out the door? Did you leave on your own accord and what were the things that that led to your ultimately leaving and what did it feel like? I know it was a lot, but. Yeah, yeah.

Jaime Jay:
So it was super scary. But I'm still a kid. I think it takes me forever to learn how to do the right thing. I've made so many mistakes that I knew I shouldn't have done, and that happened. So in the span of a dozen years, I worked for five different companies. Wow. So that's moving pretty quickly, moving, thinking the grass is always going to be greener. And it was in two different industries. It was in technology and it was in radio. And it just it seemed like, man, for the first three companies, first two companies I left. I didn't leave on good terms. I had I had personality conflicts with with people there. And obviously I was doing something wrong. As I look back in it and reflect, I wasn't being intentional. What I later learned is to build really good relationships and always be upfront and honest and transparent. And, you know, if that's not what is going to work for me there, then I understand that, that we need to separate. I totally get it that I'm not part of I don't I don't agree with the core values or or the vision or mission something there. And if I'm going to impede their progress, sure enough, it's time for me to go. But what I did finally find find out is I had the I guess you can say, kind of cojones. I finally figured it out. Hey, this is what I want to do. And fortunately, the last position I had, I let them know what I wanted to do and they supported me and they ended up being my first client when I transitioned away. And so I learned through several iterations it's very important not to burn those bridges and to do everything you can and be intentional. If you're there, you chose to be there. Nobody else forced you to be there. So if you chose to be there and you're unhappy, make the best of that situation. But follow your passion. Follow what it is that you want to do. And the hurt and the pain was so much in corporate America for me. I'm not saying corporate America is bad for me. It was so painful that I had to go somewhere else to continue challenging myself and do something so where I could kind of follow my passion. I know. Sounds cheesy, but that's that's how I felt. And I just I really. I really wanted to do my own thing and. Boy, oh, boy. 2006 is when I started.

Brian Kelly:
That's fantastic. And so when you actually made that decision, I mean, did you already have external clients lined up some kind of income work? And were you doing a side hustle thing while you're working a full time job or after you're working your full time job each night? How did that transition occur?

Jaime Jay:
That's where it got a little scary because I didn't I had one client. The organization that I worked with, but I knew that if I stuck with it, it would be okay because I would have the time to do it. I had a super small, little tiny bit of savings. Not much at all. But that's that's how I started. And it was just grassroots working out of I'm kind of working out of my bedroom turned office here. But that's that's how I've always I've always been.

Brian Kelly:
I love it. I love it. And this is inspiring for people that are out there trying to make that same decision. And I would encourage you to reach out to Jamie, because not only will he help you with that decision if you're in that boat, but he will also he has the resources to kind of accelerate your success in getting you up insolvent quicker. I know this because of what he does. When I finally made the decision, this is before I met Jamie, I made a decision to implement a strategy that he offers for. And we're going to get into this, don't worry that he offers for entrepreneurs and small businesses, maybe even large businesses. But once you employ the strategy, so many things open up. I mean instantly and your mindset changes. You're it's like, Wow. And so let's get to the elephant in the room. Jamie, what is your business? What do you do in a nutshell? What is it you do and who do you serve as far as businesses that help them to literally exponentially grow their business in a much more short, shorter period of time?

Jaime Jay:
Right. So our provocative point of view is stop doing the wrong things so you can focus on doing your best work. I saw one of the books that you, as you were scrolling earlier was E-Myth Revisited. And there's a great example in that book by someone starting was at a bakery, or I think it was a bakery, and they just loved baking. And then they found out, Oh man, now I got to do books and now I've got to manage people and I have to do all these other things. And it affected them in such a negative way that it took all the fun out of what used to be a passion of theirs. And so we find the same thing with a lot of people that start either startups or entrepreneurs or even people that have been in the same business for a couple of years. It just gets old to them and they get burned out. And what we did is we aligned our core values around that provocative point of view because no matter what, if you own your business, whatever it is that you're doing in life, if you're married, if you're anything in life, I always give them the 8020 rule. 20% of the time. It's going to be mucky and muddy and it's just going to be work. But the reason you go through that is because you love or you're so passionate about something or someone because you know you're going to be rewarded if you get through this stuff, clean the dishwasher tonight or whatever it is, get through that because you'll be cuddling with your wife or your husband or boyfriend or girlfriend, you know, 15 minutes later on the couch watching a show together. And that's the kind of the push that we need. It's the same thing in business. I still do stuff that I don't care to do, but I know I need to get it done. Strategy or talking with an upset client. That's no fun. But I'm intentional about it because I know that I have the confidence to where if we're able to communicate effectively and work this out, which is one of my three skills that I think are paramount to anybody adaptability, resilience and effective communication.

Jaime Jay:
But if you can just get through that, you know you're going to be rewarded because then you get to go on Brian Kelly show and you can do stuff like that. That's really fun. So those are probably some of the things that I think you asked early on, you know, was I scared and all that? I was so passionate about it. And people say, do something you love and you'll never work a day in your life. I call BS on that. But I will say if you find something you truly do well and you really enjoy, you'll excel As long as you're focused on a really defined and well thought out vision that you align with and a mission that you do every single day. The mission are the objectives. The vision is where you want to get to. If you can align yourself with that core values and the team members buy into that or believe in that vision. Man It's it's a pretty powerful recipe.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. And you kind of just let the cat out of the bag. You said team members, huh? Where would one go to find team members that could be plugged into their their company, their business, their system in rapid format to where they're more hitting the ground running? Because I've heard the horror stories of people looking for help and they would interview endless countless number of Vas and they sound great, they look great, their resume is fantastic. They hire them. And then. They're a flop and they just become a cancer. And I know that that is something you help with is qualifying people. You have many of them in your repertoire that you are already vetted. So if you wouldn't mind. So real quick though, the Vas are what I'm talking about, virtual assistants, and that was the one thing that was a game changer for me in my business, just getting that first one and realizing you have help and it teaches you to do things that you will learn. In The E-Myth revisited that very book you just mentioned, and that's building your systems. You know, he said somewhere in the book he said, If you have no systems in your business, then you have no business like whammo, right between the eyes. That was me. I had no systems. I didn't have help, I had nothing. And I have since then grown. I've got a team, I've got systems, standard operating procedures, I record everything, document if issues need to be taken care of, their technical nature, I'm recording those so future VA's can look at those if we have a similar nature come up, a similar issue and wow, realizing. So when you say you'll never have, if you love what you're doing, you'll never have to work another day. That's true. It is BS But the more you have people to help you and the system employed around it, the more happy you'll be in, the less you'll be in that in that 20% of the the goo and the guck. So if you wouldn't mind, I would love to hear an overview of literally what you do in your business. I'm going to pull up your website and if you would feel like it, if I'm sure you can think of one or two success stories or even someone currently using your services, that had a profound effect on them making that decision to get more help if they already had help, or if those who had no help and finally got help and said, Holy crap, where have you been all my life? That would be great as well. So if you don't mind, I'd like to hand it over to you for a bit and give us a rundown of everything you guys do and the successes you had.

Jaime Jay:
Yeah, And thank you so much. So the name of my company is called Bottleneck. Distant Assistance and Distant assistance is a new category that we created. So we're proud to say we're the first, the world's first dedicated, distant assistant company. And I think there's a really strong delineation. None is better than anything else. I say we're just a little different, and a virtual assistant, in my opinion, is more transactional based in nature. A lot of times people misinterpret a virtual assistant as AI or machine learning as well, and that's really big topic Right now. A distant assistant is more of an intimate based relationship and we really focus on training so that they understand to seek out and study the vision, the mission, the core values, the provocative points of view of our clients so that they build that deep personal relationship with one another. And what we found is that the industry average right now in the VA industry is a 38% turnover rate, bottleneck is 4%. And the reason why is because our clients, they they they get to see by extension themselves doing so much more. And again, we go back to that provocative point of view, stop doing the wrong things so you can focus on doing your best work well, those things that you may not get a lot of energy from checking your email or doing your calendar or answering the phone or doing research that's so time consuming. Your assistant that you hire thrives on that. And they love the detail. They love being able to say, check out this amazing PowerPoint I put together based on what you wanted me and you're just like, blown away. Wow, that is so cool. What that allows me to do is not get into the weeds in any one type thing. And my brain, the way it works, I'm kind of all over the place. I'm a little A.D.D. squirrel syndrome, you know, and they can bring you back down to reality a lot of times and keep you organized and structured that way. But what we do here is we really work with clients to help pursue what it is that they want to do. And we do this through what we call the delegation roadmap.

Jaime Jay:
And that delegation roadmap is is pretty straightforward. I learned this from the wonderful Scott Beebe where you basically list down everything you do in a given day. Anything that you do that could be repeatable, everything. And this is a time where you need to take a break, take an hour or 2 hours, let everybody know in advance, schedule this thing so the family is aware or whatever the case may be, and you need to sit down with a cup of coffee. It's a glass of wine at night, whatever whatever it is that you like to do, but keep it just quiet so you can concentrate. You list down everything you can do and you sign two values. Number one, is it something you must do or can you delegate this task? And number two is does this task bring energy to you or is it just completely drain you of energy? What you get from that is a subset task list of all the tasks that you can delegate and all the tasks that don't bring you energy. Now you start lining all of those tasks. Into different job roles. Is this an executive assistant that can help me? Is it a web developer? Is an audio or video editor? Is it a graphic designer? Is it a social media person? You just and whichever list is the longest, that's the first role you go after. That's the first one. And a lot of times I highly recommend people hiring executive assistants because they can help build that out for you and they start learning who you are. They start learning your tone, your voice, and before you know it, they start finishing your sentences. A lot of times at the end of a call or a consultation, I'll say bye for now. Well, so do our assistants. It's just weird how that kind of picks up. And so that's kind of what we do. And one of the big, big, big differentiators. You talked about the systems. I love systems, processes. I love it. I love workflows. So all of our assistants are trained in workflow management during they go to a bottleneck academy and they don't pay anything for this.

Jaime Jay:
We cover all the costs for it, but once they go there, they learn how to build workflows based on instructions given to them by our clients. And after after the 60 day onboarding. What's really cool about that is we deliver to all of our clients a workflow manual branded in their brand with a table of contents with every single task delegated to them step by step built out. What does this do? It does two things. Number one. It could help with evaluations because now you're discovering the foundation to systemize the entire process of your organization. And number two, it gives you the confidence knowing that everything you've delegated is delegated up to or hopefully exceeding your level of expectations. And now you feel more comfortable delegating more responsibility or more authority to that person. We've oftentimes seen those assistants get promoted in their organizations. My executive assistant started with me four years ago, is now our director of operations. She runs the company. And stories like that that we know we can guide it and support our clients in getting to that level to where they focus on doing their best work.

Brian Kelly:
That is phenomenal. And I've actually learned more in this chat than I did when we first had our talk. And I'm even more duly impressed, especially with the fact that you're doing all that with the bottleneck workflow and the training that you're giving them and that it's branded to the client and you're already establishing a culture awareness with the the assistant or what do you call what is your term for your, your people? It's not virtual assistant because you do.

Jaime Jay:
It's just an assistance.

Brian Kelly:
Just and I like that you're differentiating that because truly what you're doing is different and it distances you from other agencies and you know, assistant provider, oh my gosh, everything you just said just was so in alignment with what I'm going through right this very moment. I've been working with an agency and the main VA that I have. I called her my primary VA. I've been slowly kneading and helping and massaging and helping her to become more of a manager than a technician while she's still doing technician work for me so that when the time comes where we expand, I've already told her ahead of time I will put you in charge of doling out the tasks while you may still do some of them and we'll have that chat, I'm going to let her choose what she wants to do and what she wants to offload. It's going to be her choice, not mine, because I know what she's great at and it will be her responsibility then to make sure that other person is at least as good as she is. That's going to be hard because she's freaking awesome. But every step of the way, though, I always get her buy in and I don't I don't force her to do something she is not in alignment with. And I tell her, Please be honest with me. It's better to be honest with me now. Then go down the road and determine, Oh crap, I had. I just said that to make you happy. And I'm like, No, don't do that ever. Please. We have a great relationship. And so all this is perfect because it resonates strongly with what I've internally developed in the whole. The culture is so important, you know, being in alignment with a business culture, understanding, just like you said, they start talking like you. It's crazy, it's unbelievable. But that's good news. Especially for those. Who start doing social media content on.

Jaime Jay:
Your behalf.

Brian Kelly:
Now they're writing, as you would write. They're talking not not exactly. But very close.

Jaime Jay:
And so it.

Brian Kelly:
Resonates with people that know you. And yeah, everything you said is just you got me like freaking excited. I'm such a geek. But. I love this stuff. I love systems, too. I, I hate process. I used to. I hate documentation. I used to because now documentation isn't documentation so much. It's turn on loom or some other screen recorder narrate what you're doing. That is the document. If you can follow these instructions, then you're hirable. If you can't, you're not. And if you can't, boy, there's something wrong because they're pretty simple the way we make them. And so, yeah, thank you for kind of affirming. What? I think is the right way to go about things. And you take it to another level with your the way you treat your clients. And that's very impressive. So kudos to you and I can see why you're so successful just in that and that your retention rate 4%. Oh my God, that's pretty awesome. Meaning only for drop, not for. Stay on the make sure that was clear. But yeah, thank you so much for letting us know. And towards the end of the show, I mean you all saw if you're watching this live it's bottleneck dot online is the website you'll go to to then have that initial call you there's a button there it says book a consultation. Will they talk with you, your wife, a team member? How does that.

Jaime Jay:
Work? It depends. It just depends on who's up in the queue. But if I'm I'm more than happy to talk with anybody. Raina talks with a lot of them. We have Phil. It's just I mean, and I also like to introduce them to the team. I like them too, because there's a lot of challenges. They say to do it, even speak English or, you know, some of the problems I've had, I've had to tell them every single thing to do. And, you know, it's just probably not a good you know, But when I give them an opportunity to actually speak with the team and let them know what they do and their independent thoughts and how I embrace all of that and they get to see us interact and they can almost start seeing themselves. Oh, I could be I could be doing stuff like that. That's extremely powerful because if you've never done anything before or you've had a bad experience, it's very difficult to take that step again or for the first time. And so by example, it's really nice to present them with real life scenarios and what.

Brian Kelly:
It gives them an immersive environment to see it and live it and breathe it and in real time. And they can then, like you said, visualize themselves being part of that. And that's another great thing. You are so you are so astute and you have this incredible I can't think of a word of it. It's just astuteness. But you really understand what is so effective. It's and the reason I'm saying this is because it's obvious you've been doing this a while. You've done you've gone through the School of Hard Knocks SFI, and we've learned and we're still not perfect. You're not? I'm not. And that's okay. The cool thing is I can tell you're one of those that's willing to say, you know what, That could be improved. So let us give us a moment and we'll improve on that. I mean, I've just done that recently and it took me physically, myself personally, an entire day to build out, in this case, a new automation. I'm an automation freak. I love that stuff. But do what you love. And I love automation, by the way. So that was nice. You do? Yeah, I love it. I absolutely love it. It comes easy to me. It's natural and I just enjoy the heck out of it. Not everybody, very few. I'm finding like it at all. Okay, that's good. I have a hirable skill. This is good. And so but that's the thing is, like you said, do what you like. Be passionate about it. How many have you heard all the naysayer or some of the naysayers? There is this is a debatable topic I hear about a lot. How important is it for someone to really be passionate about what they do? Like you brought the example of the bakery shop in the. It was a whole metaphor that came out of the E-Myth revisited. But in your opinion, how important is that? Some say, Oh, forget that, don't worry about being passionate. Just find something that'll make you money. If you're trying to do something you're passionate about and trying to make money at it, well, you're in for a steep climb. What's your philosophy on that?

Jaime Jay:
My philosophy is very simple. Do something that you really enjoy, and so do I really enjoy sourcing and providing decent assistance? Yes, absolutely. And when I first started this, there was a light one off. When I first started, I was actually in a mastermind group and they said, How are you getting these great people? And I said, Oh, well, here you have one. They go, You need to make a business out of this. And I said, Really? Because I had a creative web agency and all that. And I wasn't I was not passionate about building websites. 0% made decent money, but not passionate. And I thought I was still on that same track. I'm like, Well, I can make a lot of money doing this, so I'm going to start this company. And it was like a year and a half into it, maybe one of my clients rang me on a Saturday and said, Hey. And I said, What the heck are you doing calling me on a Saturday? I almost didn't answer the phone saying, What are you doing? And I thought for a minute, maybe there was a complaint or something happened. So I was going to jump all over this. In any case, long story longer. He turns, he turns around and he says, Well, I just wanted to say thank you. We hired our assistant 90 days ago. This is the first Saturday I'm taking off this year. Wow. And I was like, Oh. Then the phone rustled away and his wife said, Thank you for giving me my husband back. Now, that changed the perspective on how I, how I even. I had no idea. I had zero idea. Wow. And now I'm not like, I want to do this for a million people. That's impossible. I want to do it for 500. I want to be there because we can still offer good personal touch. I want to be that small company that plays big. I want to remain small through growth and affect people that way. Like, that's magical. The other thing that is key to the whole thing is work with people that you want to work with.

Brian Kelly:
Yes.

Jaime Jay:
So we're very selective. I have no problem firing a client. Do I like it? No, absolutely not. But if I hear mistreatment or something going on with one of our assistants, Oh, man, Dad comes out like, I don't know what happens. I love it. It's also the same on the on the other shoe, though, if we have a day that is not showing up or not doing what they're supposed to, I'll be as equally as hard on them and will blacklist them. And that's not a good thing. When when other other companies find out that we've blacklisted somebody, they know they've done something wrong. That said, we've never had one instance of theft. We have had instances where people didn't show up or they didn't respond in a timely manner and stuff like that, and they all know that. So we want to try and make this relationship with them completely focused on supporting our clients from a leadership role where you have a Jedi mind trick, all of our DA's our leaders, and I tell them, I tell the client this, but and and they go, well, how am I going to be the leader? He's my boss or she's my boss. You're going to be the leader because you're going to ask the most questions. So that's the mindset that we use with our assistants so they can learn and absorb so much more. And our clients actually respect that.

Brian Kelly:
This is this is, you know, oh, my gosh, this is gold. This is gold. I'm loving this. And another thing leaders do is solve problems, solve solve issues without unnecessarily bothering their client or the person that has the. And that's something I have a VA right now. I call her my primary. She is. She is that she will she will do things I don't even ask her to do. All of a sudden, I see memes going up on my Instagram account. Like, where did that come from? Like, and she knew I mean, I had them done in the past. She saw them and kept it going by creating more. And she's putting in phrases that she knows that her phrases I would say, or they were lifted directly out of a past show. This show we're doing right now, as an example, we'll get transcribed and put up on our website for all the e j forever. This is going to be awesome. And as she does that, she edits a little bit of the written word. And that's another thing. As a result of doing that, she ends up talking like, like yours truly, which is kind of weird at first. And then you're like, Well, this is cool though, because of how this can.

Jaime Jay:
But was it like that in the beginning?

Brian Kelly:
No, not at all.

Jaime Jay:
Right. So that's the thing. And the reason I'm sorry to interrupt you, but this is super important. So many people that go out and hire, they say, oh, my gosh, if this is what you're thinking, this is the big indicator that you could heavily use an executive assistant. Oh, my gosh, I don't have time to train. I can do it faster. That's number one. The second thing is thinking that it's going to be so much easier when you hire somebody. Oh, my gosh, I've got to get this stuff done. I just need a behind in the seat to get this done. If those are things that you're thinking, you really need to discover some kind of an opportunity to hire somebody, whether it's it's not even have to be bottlenecked. But you're at that point where you need to find somebody, but you need to be slow to hire and quick to fire. And what's really important here and you said it yourself, it's harder in the beginning. You need to set your expectations in the very beginning. That's why we have 60 day onboarding. We've got a lot of support and a lot of guidance. But you're here, you know it. They're here. You can hire somebody with so much experience and you think they're just going to take over. But that's the biggest challenge. Sometimes I get people saying, I just had this the other day. One of our potential clients is getting ready to hire somebody. He got three candidates that he's going to be interviewing and he said, None of these people have leadership backgrounds. And I said. I beg to differ. While they have a little bit of the knowledge that you're seeking, you can train. On systems and processes, but you cannot train on personality. The challenge he's experiencing right now is he doesn't have anybody that wants a leadership role. These three people were hungry for a leadership role and had fantastic personalities. And I know that because the personality assessment aligned with his personality, with exactly with what he was wanting. So you have to be able to go into a relationship knowing that it's going to be harder in the beginning. Things you think you're busy now, get ready to bring somebody else on and get them up to speed how they need to be up to speed. But once you hit that 60 days and 90 days and I don't know how long how how long is your assistant been with you?

Brian Kelly:
Almost two years now. But it was I tell this to people that I have referred many people to this agency. Let me switch that or add yours to it. We'll see. I'm really I'm really intrigued and leaning in more and more as I learn more about what you're doing. But I tell people, I said, look, I'm referring them to this agency telling them, I've got the VA that ends all the VA. She is the best and she is awesome. Oh, I want that to OC. But I want you to know. Please take this to heart. Give it. I give. I tell them three months. I said it takes time to establish a rhythm with a new person. It's like a whole new relationship. It's. It takes time to establish expectations. It takes time to establish culture. All these things that go with it. And then it takes time to get their trust full buy in. It's a two way street. It's not one way. Absolutely. And do the best you can. What what I would advise people before they come to you as a service or anyone is start now documenting all your processes and documenting it does not again, does not mean you have to type it all out. In fact, I'm doing that as we speak. I continually update PS I'm doing it now. I have written Google Docs that's accessible by my team and inherent to it, I have links to videos that further describe exactly point by point, step by step, how to do those steps. I give them an overview sentence and then say, Dig in. This is where you go and have those in place. Start building those. They don't have to be perfect. Just say they're all in this folder. If you need help, go click on this video. And if you can't follow, this is what I say. If I don't say this out loud, but it's kind of obvious. If you can't follow these instructions, then you cannot be part of my team because they are that simple. Make them simple. Not to the fifth grade level sometimes, maybe, But if you go to that level so they're not they're not qualified to do what you're asking them to do, because some a lot of stuff I do is tech based and I just I got lucky.

Brian Kelly:
I'm going to say it. I got lucky with this VA. She she ended up having a greater talent base and a drive and a hunger to learn more than I could have ever asked for. And she is slowly and surely becoming my executive. I love that term much better. Executive Assistant. I've made her program manager for now. Two of my clients who are doing their own live video shows. So she is taking the helm and I'm there for her. I'm there. We're in a group chat area so that I can see all the messages in case she needs some help. And the whole point of all this is to emphasize what Jamie is saying, which is it will take time. Don't expect a miracle the second you hire one of J's divas and they come in, it's not going to be all perfect and pretty and awesome from the get go. But boy, just think of think of the outcome. Think of 90 days down the road where you can take that first Saturday off. I mean, my gosh, that is an amazing feeling. I'm getting goosebumps thinking about that because that's what happens. The other thing that happened to me, Jamie, that I think would help for people that are considering your service is what it does, is it frees you to think of other things. I used to have so many people come to me. Brian You do all this automation. Can you help me with this automation system? The answer would be yes, but I'm not going to. Why? I don't have the time. Or can you help me to build a website? Or I need to pull a website from one service like Infusionsoft? Oh, did I say that out loud over to Peak Connector, which is my and I'd say I would in the old days say no. Now I'm saying, Yeah, let me look into that because I have a team and I'll go back to them and said, Here's the, here's the issue. How long do you think it'll take? How many hours I get them to tell it. I say, okay, I know what, I pay them an hour, I'll do my markup, I'll go back to them.

Brian Kelly:
Here's my here's my offer. They say yes, and I just hand it over to the VAC team. I'm done. And I just made money. It's like it just so expands your mind beyond. And that's just one tiny example. But even to this day, I'm finding myself, Oh, geez, that's right. I can go ask my VA for this or the team because we have a manager that then will drop in other VA's that have different talent and skills on our if we request them. It's just so just do it. If you haven't done it, go to a bottleneck online and book a consultation. Get talked to Jamie's team and look, Jamie didn't come on here thinking or knowing I was going to be helping promote him, But I know this guy well enough to say I would. I would go to the mat for this guy. He goes, He's gone to the mat for all of us, the United States of America being a US Army paratrooper. That tells me enough right there. But then meeting you and getting to know the essence of you, learning about what you like to do, the relationship you have with your wife is a gem. Just everything about you resonates. And I think I have absolutely zero hesitation or resistance in saying, Everybody meet J. Jamie, Sorry, that's your last name. So that works still too. But go reach out to Jamie and get involved. Just get your questions answered and see if it's a fit. At least do that for yourself. Go that one step, that very scary one step that once you get on the horn and if Jamie's the one that answers or any one of his team, you're just going to go, Oh, they're friendly and they're here to help me. Just do it. That would be my you know.

Jaime Jay:
You pass along some questions that you might go into. And so I ask the team for help. And we don't say we don't use the word help here. I shouldn't have said help. They know there's three words we don't use. That's one of them. So I asked the team for support and some guidance, and I said, and we have this little chat thing on there. And I said, Hey, guys, how would how would you describe the culture here at Battle.net? Because I wanted to come from them, not from me. Mike D says Driven, diversified, dedicated Arena says one thing that comes to mind is support. Even if we don't ask, the support will always be there. A family. We have one another's backs. We celebrate the wins and losses, whether personal or business. Together we celebrate birthdays, hail, accomplishments, cry together and revel in camaraderie as family would. I love each and every one of the team here at Bottleneck and then Shanelle, our bookkeepers motivator, inspires us, encourages everyone to become a better version of themselves. This is all coached. This is me asking them how they feel. And every January we have everybody rewrite their own job roles and responsibilities. They want to do what they want to do or where they want to thrive so we can create a role for them. And because they've documented everything that they've done, it's so much quicker and easier to bring somebody in to perform the tasks of that role because it's all done literally step by step, by step by step. And that learning curve is drastically reduced from I mean, the first time I hired a writer, it took me six, six, six weeks. The second time I hired a writer up and running in two weeks, doing our blog post, doing everything that we needed. It's such an amazing thing. The challenges, you know, do something as if it's the last time you're ever going to do it, document it. If you just imagine the things you just despise doing. If you just did it one more time, would you be happy that someone else could come in and do it? And by documenting it, you know that that role with the responsibilities inclusive of that role, are going to be done either up to your level or exceeding your level of expectations. And they're spending all the time. So the likelihood of improving it is amazing. And once you get all that junk out of here, creativity opens wide up.

Brian Kelly:
So you know what I like to call that? They call it a bomb dropping moment right there. Yes. Smart bombs, knowledge bombs, bombs of wisdom. That is Jamie Jay right there. Yes, because I love it. I couldn't wait. To drop that on you. What I did there. So you said something that. Oh, my gosh, you are the only other person I have ever heard say this other than yours truly. And I'm not doing this to pat myself on the back. It's just what you're doing as far as having your team document their own work. That is what I've been telling people that I've done with my team. And I basically tell them, I say, because I feel my people are part of my systems. It's not just documents and automation and machinery. It is your people that also can constitute your systems. And I say, because I do the same exact thing I say I want, so I'll give them guidance on a task I'll give them and I'll just say, if you need help, let me know. But typically, I just say, you know, if I need a video or let's say a graphic done, here are the branding colors here. The fonts just wow me. And they always do. I said, You can do far better than I could. I would put something together. I'm very rigid and numerical and all that stuff. And they are just they blossom. So I just say, do what you do. But then when you do it, I want you to record it and narrate what your thoughts are. What are the things you're doing? What tools are you using that maybe others might not use? Just just record it. And the cool thing is that now what I say is I have my systems building my systems. Yeah. And it's it's like and here's the other beautiful thing, Jamie. You've probably experienced this, too. Is that so? Sometimes I will make I will do the first rendition of a video to teach somebody because it might be involved. And then I say, now that you've done it, it's repeatable. You talked about repeatable process.

Brian Kelly:
Now that you've done it for a month, two months, three months, I would like you to record your version of it. Because you have no doubt figured out more efficient ways, better ways, ways that suit you, better that make it easier for you. Maybe they have a slower Internet connection. They found a different way to do it. I don't know. But I just say it'll come off better from you than it will from me because I'm not doing it day to day. I did it one time. I figured out how to do it and I said, Here's how you do it. And then after that, I never, ever have to review their video because the proof is when the next person comes in. Did you have any questions? Were you able to accomplish a task? No questions. Everything was very easy to follow. Is it perfect? So I had to spend zero time. All I said was Please record when you do it the next time. Yep. And it's an ungodly game changing time saving. They feel that they're getting a piece. They own a PC or company by. They feel ownership of that task. They feel ownership of being a leader.

Jaime Jay:
They get empowered. Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
Yes. And I liken that to I always refer to that very book you picked out. Unbelievably, That was phenomenal. The The E-Myth Revisited because he talks about the three stages technician, manager and investor. And I always tell them, You're a technician, I'm going to teach you manager, I'm going to start weaving that in. And as you are building, teaching and training materials, you are becoming a manager. That is a manager's role, not a technicians role, because you are doing that for the purpose of training others that come after you or beside you or next to you. And that's part of a leadership role and they love it. I have not had I had apprentices for gosh, three or four years that came in. They worked 90 days. That was it, end of story. It was done. There was no extension. They knew it. I knew it. They were going to be there for 90 days and done. So I learned quickly how to create these systems and had them do the same thing record. They're gone. They're nowhere to be seen. The Next Apprentice came in and I didn't have to review the videos. It was phenomenal.

Jaime Jay:
Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
So what you're saying is gold because that is what works and I hope a lot of people employ and implement. They really don't even have to. All they have to do is go to Jamie Jay at Bottleneck Dot online and it will be part of the system and you'll be, Oh my God. I mean, just think about that. I'm thinking about it right now. No one has to learn this stuff. They're going to be immersed in an environment that already operates in that stuff. And that's what's so beautiful about what you're doing.

Jaime Jay:
Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
And by the way. Jamie didn't pay me for any of this. It may. Sound like it because I'm. Starting to think about like, Man, I'm really pumping this guy up, but I feel it. I think it's genuine. And no, he didn't pay me anything.

Jaime Jay:
Well, I'll pay you with a compliment. This is fantastic.

Brian Kelly:
No.

Jaime Jay:
I seriously believe there's another leader in our industry, and the guy is. He's been doing it since 2008. He's got ton of experience. And he said something the other day that just. That I never knew how to put this in words until he said it. And I noticed you were saying that and you haven't even I don't even know if you knew this. But he says, you know, you start your company and it's it's I I'm doing the workflows, I'm doing the bookkeeping, I'm building the websites, I'm doing this. But all of a sudden it becomes we you know, we're starting to do this. You know, I'm involved and I'm still overseeing. It's at that point when it turns from we to they and and when you experience that difference, where you're focused on vision and mission and creativity and new ideas and tackling this, the last several hires of my internal team, I should say, of our internal team, I didn't even interview I didn't even bring them on board. I didn't do any training. They were all trained from the systems developed from the earlier team members that were there. Now we can start saying they and that is such a game changer. You need to start somewhere. And like you said in the very first in earlier in the show, start documenting today, not even if you're planning on hiring right now, it doesn't document in your systems. It'll do two things. It'll give you confidence so that you can delegate with authority. It will also help you be aware of creating that foundational system that will increase your valuation should you choose to exit years down the road. I know if I'm ready to get out and I want to exit, which I'm not, but if I choose to, I'm not going to sign a deal and sell my company where I have to stay on board for another year or two.

Brian Kelly:
Exactly right.

Jaime Jay:
And you do that all through. Documentation and workflows and processes.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. A mentor of mine brought this up and trained this from stage and it was basically build your business from the It doesn't matter if you've just started or if you're already building your business deep into it, but build your business with the intent to sell whether or not you ever do sell it. That was the important part because many people don't ever want to sell, they think. But if you build it in such a way that you could just literally hand it over to somebody and show them, well, I don't need to show them how to do anything, but I'll have to show them where all the elements exist that will show them exactly how to operate the business. Then you've done your job.

Jaime Jay:
And what happens? God forbid I step in front of a bus. What does my wife do exactly? She knows how to come, right? She'll come in and know how to do everything.

Brian Kelly:
I think she'll just come and push you out of the way if you step in front of. Yeah. And let's hope that never happens to either one of you. In all seriousness, my God, I just looked at the time. Holy crime, and I knew it. I knew was going to happen. Jamie. We've gone over 5 minutes, and, you know, the same goes Jimmy, crack corn and. I don't care. It's like. I don't know what I don't know. It's an old, old, old song like Jimmy Bracken. And I don't care anyway. I don't even know what it means. Jimmy crack corn was. I mean, I don't care. So I did promise everyone that came on and watched and stuck on to the end with us alive that I would reveal how they could win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. And that is compliments of the big insider secrets that red and white stamp looking logo on the upper right. That is my dear, dear friend Jason asked who is newly married is a fantastic, wonderful wedding that we witnessed at sea on a cruise with them just a couple of weeks ago. And they actually I'll say they because they are now a team officially and formally, they offer this so that we can offer it to you each and every week. So I'm going to put it on the screen, write it down, because we're not quite done yet. I hope you can stick around a little bit longer, Jamie, because I like to end every show with a very profound question to to kick it off. It's always a great one. But real quick, I'm going to put it on the screen, So don't don't go join it or don't go to this website yet. Write it down now. You'll have plenty of time even when the show is over. We'll keep monitoring it and choose the winner. So what you want to do is go to or write this down. Our IP dot. I am for vacation again. It's our IP that stands for Reach your peak, which is my business. Reach your peak. So it's our IP.

Brian Kelly:
I am for slash vacation all lowercase. Write that down. And then after this incredible heavy hitting, profound final question that I asked Jamie, who's going, what the heck is this question going to be? Then you can go and enter to win. Sound good? Everyone say yes out there. Yes. Thank you, Jamie, for your participation. So, yeah, this question, I can't believe we're at the end already. We're going to have to do a follow on. And I definitely want to have more chats with you about your team and everything that's going on. I mean, the same thing. I never say they work for me. I say they work with me and I say we a lot when I talk about it's my company, I own it and operate. But I never say Mike. I say our, you know, I, I doesn't exist. And it's, it's, it's fun to catch myself. We not I, you know, when you're in that conversation with somebody. Anyway, this last question that I love to ask every person that comes on this show, hopefully you didn't cheat and see it before. That's fine. I say cheat fun. What is cool about it is it's very profound and it can be actually a little personal. That's what makes it so powerful. But the good news about this is that there is no such thing as a wrong answer, Jamie. None. It doesn't exist. Yeah, it takes it all. In fact, the only correct answer is yours. It's like, wait a minute, you ask this every show, how can my answer be right? Someone else has had to have been right. That's a thought provoking, isn't it? So. I know it's a big buildup, but that really the only thing that what happens is the answer will be unique to you, and that's the only thing that makes it personal. So it's not like getting into your knickers about personal life or anything like that. So with all that wonderful buildup, are you ready for the big question, Gene? I'm ready. Oh, I knew you would be. I mean, come on. He's a former US Army paratrooper, for crying out loud.

Brian Kelly:
He. He jumped out of a perfectly good airplane. So here we go. All right, here we go. Jamie, Jay, how do you. Define success.

Jaime Jay:
Oh, how do I define success? I embrace three core things. Adapt. Adaptability, resilience, and effective communication. And I think if you put that and you're very intentional about every single conversation and everywhere that you are, everywhere that you are at that specific time and focus on those three things during conversations or during research. Be intentional about it. That's what I say is the success of being an entrepreneur because it's what you do behind the scenes. It's not all the red carpets and all that everybody gets to see. It's all that hard work. And that's where the passion comes from. I believe in my heart that the passion drives you to do all those difficult things because you know you're going to be rewarded with things like being talking to Brian, Brian Kelly here. So I think that's my definition of success.

Brian Kelly:
And you know how this has to end, don't you, Jamie? How does this. Another bomb run for the one and only Jamie. Jay. That's awesome. What an absolute joy. Pleasure. Blessing to have you on. I appreciate you. Thank you for your wisdom. Thank you for sharing it with those who listened and watched live. For those who will come on late. We had some comments. I didn't even have time to bring those up. I apologize for those who did. I found one of them was one of my very first apprentices I ever had. This is going back many years I like. Wow, I haven't seen her in ages, so.

Jaime Jay:
Oh my gosh.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. And in fact, let me bring her up just to prove it for people. But it's me. Eliza. Yes. Elizabeth Mustapha. She was.

Jaime Jay:
Oh, my gosh.

Brian Kelly:
And she. Nice to see you again live. And oh, that's awesome. This is that question I must ultimate success, a question about success. Like, oh, she said that way before the end of the show. She even remembered it while I was freaking awesome. So appreciate you, Jamie. My gosh. And you have so many great things in the works. I can't wait to see those cabins when you have those ready. I hope I'm not giving away anything secret, but it gets a great idea. And look, everyone watching and listening, please. If there's any part of you saying, should I, should I take that leap of faith, should I reach out to Jamie? The answer is yes. If that is at all going through your mind, even if you don't think you're ready to bring on a team, you'll be surprised. You might be more ready than you ever thought possible. In fact, you know, if you have a business and you don't have help, you are ready. You know, you just may not know it because once you get the help and then you go through that process, the first few months of, you know, what I call building a rhythm together with your first day, then you're going to go, Oh my God, why didn't I do this sooner? I'm not kidding you, because that's what I with me. So go to bottlenecked online and book your consultation, if nothing else, to roll the dice and see if you get a get signed up to talk to Jamie himself. You never know. You might get lucky. He might be the one next on the Rolodex that rolls over in his calendar appointment system. So anyway, with all that, Jamie, I just want to say thank you once again. Do you have one maybe parting nugget of wisdom. Let's say you have an entrepreneur that's struggling, just starting out. What would be one big tip that you could give them that would help catapult them? Given everything you've been through in your personal life, you've been through a lot and you've you've overcome it. And and being a paratrooper and everything you've learned in your life, what would be one passing last bit of advice you would give a budding entrepreneur?

Jaime Jay:
Well, thank you, Brian, for having me on. And I just have to give you kudos, too, because you I've seen what you've done with your process and you were kind enough to show it. And it was it was it was fantastic. And for you, it comes easy. And so for people that are working with you, they need to understand how much better of an opportunity they're going to have or experience they'll have with you because of what you've done in the background, because of the infrastructure you've built. And that's huge kudos because so many people strive for that. And and you said something that was key. Once. Once you create that foundation, you need to consistently update it. And that didn't fall on on my ears lightly. I just wanted to bring that up because that's why you're able to do what you do. And that's most likely why people remain with you month in and month out, because they know that it's handled. They have the confidence because you have that system in place. And so I would guess I would I would say that one budding word of wisdom or phrase that I might share with somebody is it's so important to understand what that vision is and and don't make it all a bunch of jungle jubilee stuff. Just go from your heart. Where do you where do you see this thing going? Where do you what do you want out of life? And the more honest you are with yourself about that vision, about the direction that you want to go in, not the way that you're going to get there, but the direction, the more aligned those of you. Those are the people that are going to be working with you. They're going to understand it and they're going to fight and they're going to do everything they can for you, but also your vendors and or anybody else, your clients, they're going to align with that, those values of that vision. So I would recommend just really thinking about what you want to be doing, where you see yourself in five years, two years, ten years, and then draft a vision that is, you know, no industry jargon, just just you. And that's how you align people that agree with your values.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, baby. I love it. And I love you like a brother. Thank you, Jamie. Jay, you are amazing, man. I appreciate you. And I could talk to you for another 5 hours. I know it's later where you are. In in the country. But, man, you're a paratrooper. You could stay up all night and still go. But I appreciate you. And please, for everyone out there, this is the end of our show. We have to sadly bring it to an end. But what I'd like to do is ask you just to do two things and only two things. One is do everything you can to crush it in your business and serve more people. And number two, most importantly, everyone, please be blessed. That's it for now. I'm Brian Kelly. The Mind Body Business Show. This has been Jamie J of bottleneck dot online. Until next time we will see you again. And I cannot wait for that time to come. Here we go. So long, everybody. Thank you for tuning in to the Mind Body Business Show podcast. At www.TheMindBodyBusinessShow.com my name is Brian Kelly.

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Jaime Jay is the founder and managing director of Bottleneck Distant Assistants. Founded in 2016, Bottleneck is an outsourcing agency that helps businesses identify, hire, and cultivate their workforce through a carefully designed systematic approach to growth. A veteran US Army paratrooper who received the Army Achievement Medal for Meritorious Service, Jay’s additional business experience includes a twelve-year career in corporate America and advanced education in Business Administration and Management at Florida Institute of Technology. Jaime likes networking with big-picture thinkers and proudly proclaims he is unemployable. In his spare time, he enjoys playing hockey, riding his Harley-Davidson, camping, boating, playing guitar, shooting guns, traveling, and spending time with his wife, Sara and their dog, Nikita.

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Narrator :
So, here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us, who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back. Who are dedicated, determined, and driven. How do we finally break through and win? That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly, and this is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show.

Brian Kelly:
Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Super excited for tonight's show. We have not just one, not two, not three, but four, four amazing guest experts who are joining me tonight right here on this very stage.

Brian Kelly:
They are waiting in the wings at this moment. So let's get busy. Shall we? The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, that is a show about what I call the three pillars of success, and that came about as a result of my study of only successful people in the last decade or so. And these patterns kept bubbling to the top and those patterns being mine, which is mindset set. Each and every successful person, to a person, had a very powerful and flexible mindset. So I learned that and said," I need to implement that". Then body: body is about literally taking care of yourself. Through nutrition and through exercise, exercising on a regular basis, and again that was another pattern of very successful people and in business. These successful people had mastered the skill-sets that were necessary to create, maintain, and grow a thriving business. They're wide and varied. It's like marketing, sales, team-building, systematizing. It goes on and on and on, leadership. There's no one person, in my humble opinion, that could master every single one of these. All you have to do is master just one, and I actually mentioned one of those. It was in that list. I don't know if anyone caught that, but if you master just one of those skill sets then you're good to go. That skill set is leadership. When you've mastered the skill set of leadership, you can then delegate those skills off to people who have those skill sets. See where I'm going? Good. That's what successful people do; the ones that I studied, anyway, over the course of about 10 years. That's what this show's about. It's a show for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs. I got four guests waiting, and I'm not going to wait any longer. So, I think we should just bring them on. What do you think? Let's do it.

Narrator :
It's time for the guest expert spotlight, savvy, skillful, professional and deft, trained, big league, qualified.

Brian Kelly:
And there they all are. These amazing, beautiful guests on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. How are you all doing? Altogether, too. That was phenomenal, I love that. So real quick. All of you, I hope you don't mind for just a moment. I want to do some housekeeping? I wanted to mention to everyone watching here live. If you stay with us till the end, you can win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. All compliments of our friends at The big insider secrets dotcom. You see them flying by on the bottom of the screen right now. It's an amazing, amazing vacation stay. Stay until the end, and you'll learn how you can enter to win that wonderful prize. We also have this. If you're struggling with putting on a live show, and it's overwhelming and you want a lot of the processes done for you while still enabling you to put on a high-quality show. And connect with great people like the ones we have tonight, and to grow your business all at the same time, then head on over to carpet bomb marketing dotcom. Carpet bomb marketing, saturate the marketplace with your message. One of the key components that is contained in the carpet bomb marketing courses, and this is one that you'll learn how to absolutely master, is the very service we use to stream our live shows right here on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Over the course of the past, now it's over nine years, we have tried many of these, "TV studio solutions" for live streaming. I'll tell you right now, Stream Yard is the best of the best. It combines supreme ease of use along with unmatched functionality. So, go ahead. You can start streaming high-quality, professional live shows for free. Yes, I said it. For free, with Stream Yard right now. Visit this website, and do this after the show over. Take notes while the show is going. So write this down R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. Fantastic. Now let's get to the real fun, and the fun is these amazing people. Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. How are you all doing tonight? Thank you for being on this amazing show. Yes. So, what I'd like to do is open it up. Let the folks get to know you just a little bit now. Ok, guys. We're talking sixty seconds or less. All right. Just lay it low here, but we'll just go and order. I usually go ladies first, but let's just go around the circle. It's easier for me who's running the show. So. That's what's important. Right? So, let's start with Dylan Shinholser. Go ahead. Take it away. Give us a little brief background about you, what you do, and your business.

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. So like I said, my name is Dylan Shinhoser. I own a couple of different businesses. I'm owner of a company called, "Experience Events", which is event management. I'm also a director of business development at a virtual event, event ticketing, and virtual event platform called, "ViewStub". As well as a co-host of another show called, "Event Masters", where I just ramble all day, every day about how to produce better experiences. It's really all I know and love to do is events. That is my less than 60-second pitch about myself.

Brian Kelly:
That's a good one, too. I'll tell everybody I've spoken with you in person. We had a call some time ago, and this gentleman, Dylan, is made of integrity and great character. So, reach out to him if you need any assistance in any of the areas he talked about, or if you just want to say hi to a really great guy. Then get in contact with him, and at the end of the show, we'll go through that. Please. Somebody remind me if I forget how to contact each of you. Because that's very important to me. This is the reason I bring this show to the forefront. (It) is to bring people like you into the lives of those who may not know who you are yet, and even those that do, to experience even more of your brilliance, your experience, your knowledge, and your value. It's not about me. This is about you. Always, always. Every time. I have one guest, usually. I just feel like I'm in this big family right now. But let's keep moving. Julie Riley, amazing young woman. Take it away.

Julie Riley:
Yes. So, I am Julie Riley. I am the social media manager at StreamYard. The platform we're using right now. Prior to my time with StreamYard, I owned my own marketing agency. I've been in digital marketing since two thousand and seven. So the very, very early days of the start of it is when I jumped in(to) digital marketing, and I love just being able to help others succeed in their business.

Brian Kelly:
Fantastic, and I will also say that I have spoken with Julie in the past. Both through a typewritten chat form and verbally. I think it was Clubhouse first time, which was phenomenal. Yet another phenomenal person, incredible integrity, and character. And yes, you're going to notice there's a pattern about this with the remaining two. It's the same thing. Hopefully, we can get the last one to talk a little bit. That will be nice. I'm just having fun because we were having fun before the show started. The one smiling. The biggest down there with the green hood; not pointing anyone out or anything. Thank you, Julie, for coming on. Yes. These people, Julie and Christian specifically, I know Christians coming up here in second. They're non-stop. They don't stop working. It's evident because of the very software research we're using right now. It's of grand quality for a reason. It's because of people like Julian Christian who keep everything rolling smoothly on the back end. Dylan's there nodding his head emphatically because he gets it. It's a lot of work, and they're doing it masterfully and we appreciate you. All right. Enough of the favoritism here that felt like favoritism. Julie's our favorite. Timothy McNeely! My buddy, my friend from just a little north of where I reside. I believe. If I remember.

Timothy McNeely:
Central California, baby. Bakersfield. Yeah, my name is Tim McNeely. Today, so many dentists and driven entrepreneurs are just not sure if they're getting advice that really makes a difference for them. They may have a financial adviser who is giving them some advice on their investment portfolio, but they're not really sure that they're on the right track to really maximize their net worth outside of their business. That's what I help them do. Maximize your net worth so that you can keep taking care of the people you love, support the causes you care about, really make that difference in the world, and build an amazing life of significance. I love doing streaming because I get to talk to some of the best of the best out there and share the knowledge with the beautiful entrepreneurial community.

Brian Kelly:
I'll tell you something on a personal note as well. Literally, we talked earlier today, Tim and I, on a Zoom call. He just reached out to me and said, "let's catch up." I had him on the show some time ago as a single, solo guest, and he was phenomenal. We've just kind of maintained a relationship, a friendship ever since. He just wanted to reach out and say, "Hi" and "What's up? What do you want to talk about?" We just started talking about business and things. He gave me resources that will help me in my business, and hopefully, I reciprocated it somehow. I don't know if I did, but it is the people like Tim, like Julie, like Dylan, like Christian. That is the cloth that they are all cut from. They are here to help people. That's why I love entrepreneurs. I love all of you. I mean it. I do. I love you. You guys are amazing. I didn't even get a crack at a Christian on that one. Jeez, I mean... there we go. That's a little better, but I'm telling you, he's working on StreamYard our stuff right now as we're on the show. I mean, I'm.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm really trying not to, seriously.

Brian Kelly:
The founder Geige Vandentop. If you ever watch this, there's a message to you. Ease up on your people. Alright? Just having fun. Alright, Timothy, you're an amazing guy. Thank you for spending your valuable time and coming on here. As well as Dylan, Julie, and the ever so talkative one, Christian. I'm not going to attempt to say your last name. I'll let you take care of that one. Welcome to the show, Christian. Let's hear all about your brilliance.

Christian Karasiewicz:
Sure. Thanks a lot for having me. My name is Christian Kerasiewicz. I'm the content marketing manager at StreamYard. So, pretty much anything you see on our blog that we're going to soon be launching. I'm the mastermind behind that. So, I do that. In addition to that, I also host live stream reviews, a YouTube show. We also do on the StreamYard YouTube channel where we invite people on to talk about their live streams and help them work through some of their problems, some of their challenges that they might be having with getting community or building a show. Thanks a lot for having me. I appreciate it.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, my gosh. Thank you again, Christian, for your time and being here. I mean, he's literally building a blog while on a live show. I mean, that's a great thing. I'm not even kidding with this one. That is phenomenal. That is showing such dedication. So, it's more than that. It's passion. It's love. You know? What time is that where you are, Christian?

Christian Karasiewicz:
About 9 o'clock, or yeah... about 9 o'clock.

Brian Kelly:
(Nine o'clock) PM. Ladies and gentlemen, in case you're watching this recording. Yes. By the way, I'm going to be on twenty-five different platforms after this is over. So no pressure, but don't mess up. I'm just kidding. So, this is a phenomenal group of people, and I can't wait to dig in. Christian, just what you just said, what you do is right down the alley of what I was hoping to talk about tonight. It'll go organically, but I wanted to talk about... I mean, look at Julie, and look at Christian, and look at their images. Look at their video. It is gorgeous. Here, we'll start with a really gorgeous one first. Look at that. I mean. If there were nose hairs that weren't in place, we'd see them. That's phenomenal, and there is Julie. Wow. Very beautiful. Even more beautiful. I should just have her up like this all the time, and we can just talk in the background. Because, you know, maybe more people would come on. So, you guys have phenomenal camera setups, and here's one thing I always like to preach to those who are getting into the live streaming game. Does it take money? Yes, it does. It takes resources. It takes cameras, microphones, (a) computer, internet, good internet, fast internet, lighting, doesn't have to be fancy. What I always say though, is, do the best you can with the resources you currently have. OK, I wanted to start it off that way because what we're about to talk about with Julie and Christian is their cameras. They are top of the line. We're not talking a one-hundred or two-hundred-dollar webcam here. I like to let ladies go first. So, Julie, do you have a story when you first turned on your new camera versus when you had the webcam and what that looked like and felt like.

Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh, I turned that camera on, and it was immediately noticeable (the difference). I actually did a live on my personal Facebook page where I logged myself in as a second user into StreamYard. I had my Logitech camera that I had been using up as a camera and then had my new one. So, I could do back and forth and show everybody the difference between the two. What an upgrade that was. The Logitech served me great for years. It didn't stop me from going live, but that upgrade was immediately like, "oh, I can never go back down now".

Brian Kelly:
So, that so that is one thing. Let's say you're on the road, and I can imagine at some point both you and Christian, maybe, you'll be sent on the road to maybe support conventions and things that are on the road. Now, you want to stream live, what are you going to do then?

Julie Riley:
Well, you know, the great thing about the Sony is (that) it's a small camera. Tripods, portable ones, are small. I can take it with me. If all else fails, and I'm either on my phone or I'm on my little webcam or even my built in webcam, it's not going to stop me from going live. Is it going to be exactly what I want? No, but more than likely I'll have the Sony with me.

Brian Kelly:
Thank you for saying that. I mean, that spoke such volumes. I hope people are taking notes that are watching. Definitely take notes on this. Because, look, the show must go on. That's what I say, and this show tonight is the result of a guest who unfortunately was ill and could not make it on. So, I scrambled and found these four wonderful people to say, "I'll come on and do a panel with you." And that's it. The show must go on, and I'm going to either do it with people or I'll do it solo. It doesn't matter. Consistency is key, and we can talk more about that, too. I love how you're just talking about, Julie. Where, look, I don't care where I'm at. If I've got something and it's my time to go live, and I don't have my gear. I'm doing it.

Julie Riley:
Right.

Brian Kelly:
I love that commitment. So, thank you for that. For everyone listening, that's important. Yes, quality is important. Like I said, do the best you can with what resources you currently have. That includes, wherever you are. You may have a DSL camera that Julie paid five-hundred thousand dollars for. Oh, sorry, it wasnt that much.

Julie Riley:
Thank God it wasnt that much!

Brian Kelly:
What was the model of that again?

Julie Riley:
A6000.

Brian Kelly:
What does it run about?

Julie Riley:
It was about seven hundred.

Brian Kelly:
OK, not too bad. A little bit less than five-hundred thousand. Not much but yeah.

Julie Riley:
Yeah.

It's a phenomenal thing, and I love that that's your attitude toward commitment. I'll tell you. You have a similar attitude...anytime I go and ask for support through the back side of StreamYard community. I mean, like through messaging. When I say the backside, that's sounded weird. When I ask for support, you're always there. I mean, you don't sleep, and I appreciate that. So, keep not sleeping for everybody's sake. Christian, you do the same. So, Christian, what about you? When you made that initial change from whatever camera you had before to this unbelievably clear one year look you're working with right now. What did that feel like the moment you saw a difference?

Christian Karasiewicz:
So, it's very interesting actually. So, this is actually what I was using before. I've been using this for quite a number of years. This is a Logitech Brio. It does do 4K. I invested in this one and eventually came out, and the quality was fantastic. The only thing was, though. I wanted to scale. So this was great for traveling, for example. This is what I took around with me. Super portable. It's got the ability to put it on a tripod. Fantastic, but it did not allow me to scale, so I had to always take up another USB port and all that sort of thing. When I moved to the Sony, the Sony looked very good. I will say the one thing you have to do, though, is you need to go through the settings. There are a few adjustments you want to change. That's what's going to actually enhance your picture quality of it. It's a fantastic camera. It's a Sony 6400. Then, really, the other side to it is also the lens. So I'm using a Sigma lens. So, that I think is the real big difference. I mean you have the kit lenses it comes with. I did make the investment in the the additional lens, which I think that's actually what's contributing to why it looks so good. I will say from a quality standpoint, again, start with what you have. You know, the key things for live streaming. Audio is going to be your most important part. Then also, if you, for example, are using one of these webcams, make sure you have enough light. These things look great with a lot of light. When you don't have a lot of light, you're going to see pixelation. You're going to see distortion and things like that. So, turn it back to you.

Brian Kelly:
Especially with light, if you turn on the green screen feature, you really need to have good lighting then. That's the biggest time. I'm so glad to be liberated from that. Even though I loved it. This is actually a natural well behind me. I painted the entire studio. I actually occupy my daughter's former bedroom. I've been here for four or five years now, and I finally got rid of the cartoon drawings and the yellow paint. I'm a real boy now. I have a real studio. This is awesome.

Christian Karasiewicz:
That looks really good by the way. I was very surprised (by) your background because that looks like one of the standard backgrounds people would normally bring up during a live stream. One that has, you know, the gradient going around the outside. So, whoever did the painting on that fantastic job.

Brian Kelly:
Why, thank you very much. My wife did most of the work to be honest, but I feel like that helps with that. Yeah.

Timothy McNeely:
If you want that comparison between cameras. Right. Christine was just talking about the Logitech Brio. That's what I'm on, and you can see the massive quality difference between Kristen and Julie versus the webcam. So. Right. (A) huge step up.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, we'll point that out in glowing detail right now.

Christian Karasiewicz:
You're using a green screen. Right?

Timothy McNeely:
Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
Your sound, Christian, is smooth. I mean, you have a great radio voice. Having that microphone, I think will pivot to that too. Dylan, what are your thoughts on cameras? Yours looks actually really decent right now? You're on (a) green screen, correct?

Dylan Shinholser:
Correct. Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
It looks really clean. You've done a good job with all the lighting. It's almost like you've done this before, and you know what you're doing.

Dylan Shinholser:
I try. Yeah. So, I actually when I first started doing it, I started listening back on my phone. When this whole pandemic hit, I was using the one inside your laptop and realized very quickly (that) I'm on calls all day, live streaming shows and stuff. I was like, "I got to set my game up." So, I haven't made that leap yet to the DSLR, but I will. I'm on a Logitech, one of the models. I won't even lie because I'm not that tech-savvy. It was expensive for Logitech, so I bought it. I was like, "it's got to work." So, yeah. So, that's where I'm at. I agree heavily. I think it comes down to, because we get asked it and I know you guys get asked, it comes down to what you can afford at the moment. Then always trying to push the limits of production value. Right? My background was a wall. It was just like random yellow wall, and now I have a giant green screen wallpaper now. So, now, I can be wherever I want which is a concert. That's where I want to be, and that's where I'm going to be.

Brian Kelly:
You're the one on the stage, brother. Not the audience.

Dylan Shinholser:
No, I'm actually the guy behind the stage. I never want to be this. It's actually weird for me to be in front of people. I'm the guy behind the stage telling people to get on the stage.

Brian Kelly:
Pushing them forward. Well, you do a good job, Dylan. I wouldn't know any different. Maybe your calling is to step out from behind and be on front more often.

Dylan Shinholser:
We will see. Twenty twenty-one has a lot of stuff, and I've got a long way to go. I got super bored in twenty-twenty so I might as well talk.

Brian Kelly:
I've gotten to know you a little bit over time, and you've got a great personality. I think you need to shine in front of more people. That's my humble opinion.

Dylan Shinholser:
I appreciate that.

In the front, not behind the scenes. It's okay to be behind the scenes on occasion, but someone like you with your personality and your integrity, your character...get out there, buddy. It's a disservice if we don't get to see you. Let me put it that way.

That's what a mentor of mine said. He was like, "dude, you're actually being selfish by not talking more and getting it out." Because like I said at the beginning, I only want to help more people create better experiences and events. Make them flow better and make them more money as humanly possible. At the end of the day, I just want to travel the world with cool people and do cool things. I've learned a lot, and a lot of people need some of that experience. So, I got a stern talking to by one of my mentors. He was like, "dude..." I was like, "alright, it's alright. I promise." I started live streaming then had to get better cameras, better lights going on. It's crazy up here in my little command center of all these different lights, webcams, and monitors. Everything you need to do to pull these shows off.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I love it. Christian, go ahead.

Christian Karasiewicz:
So, I want to throw something in there real quick. We talked about various types of cameras. If you're just getting started, use that built-in laptop, the webcam. So then you can take it up a notch. You can go to the Logitech. The C922. That's about, I think, a 60 to 70 dollar webcam. So, don't overpay by the way. It's about 60 to 70 dollars. Get it from Logitec, probably. If you find an astronomical price on Amazon, move up to like the Brio, for example. If your budget allows it, that's about one hundred fifty dollar camera. Then move up to a DSLR. For example, Julie's got that, the Sony 6000. I would also say if you happen to have a smartphone, this can be used as a webcam. Essentially, if you think about it, this is a thousand dollar camera. Because you paid a thousand dollars for this device of sorts, and this will give you some phenomenal picture quality. If you already have a smartphone and you don't have to have the latest iPhone, it could be pretty much any iPhone and Android phone. You just need an app such as one called,"Camo." There's one called,"Erion." So, there are lots of apps out there. Don't think like, "hey, I have to now go drop a bunch of money." Look at the phones you have lying around. Those are going to be great ways to fix your picture quality.

Julie Riley:
I've been going live since 2015, and I only had this camera last year.

Brian Kelly:
That's it. You keep reinvesting. I had a good friend of mine who were business partners. He said, I'll never forget it,"sales drive service". When you're making money, you're able to invest. You're able to up your game, and I love that. So many great points. You can just set a phone on a tripod and your camera will look better than many people's webcams. For sure. One of the things that I would recommend, this isn't just a plug StreamYard, is to get at least get the free plan. Do they need any more than the free plan to be part of the community, Julie?

Julie Riley:
No. They can come to join the community even if they're just getting started into streaming. We do like everybody to have the free plan so they have an understanding, but we'll still let you in. Agree to the rules. That's the big thing. Yeah, come join the StreamYard community. It's really a "stream yard" community.

Brian Kelly:
It's a very valuable place because questions like what Christian just addressed are often asked (What do I need?). I'm just starting. I'm a newbie. I see that so much in there. What can you do to help with a camera or microphone or computer? You can go there if you have those questions and ask, and the community will fill in the blanks wonderfully well because they're a great bunch of people. Just like Tim down there who's gotten pushed to the side for a while. So, Tim, is this your first camera that you've been using for live streaming so far? Did you have one before it?

Timothy McNeely:
Yeah, right. I started with just an HD one. Right. Logitech and then jumped up to the Brio. Been happy with that so far. But, you know, it's interesting how the game keeps growing again. That's the thing, right? Just get started! Just do this. I started with just using zoom and recording those for my interviews, and then I realized (that) I need a better platform. I need a way to kind of do that live production. Now I'm doing Stream Yard and got intros. Just get started with whatever you've got and kind of build that proof of concept. You know, I recently just upgraded my lights because I bought the cheapest lights I could at first. I just wanted to do something, and done is better than not done a lot of times.

Brian Kelly:
I totally agree with everything you just said and like what Christian was saying. If you're going to put money into anything, make it the audio side of things first when you upgrade. I was fortunate. I started over nine years ago streaming live. This is a DSLR. Not a DSLR. Good grief, XLR microphone. It's old school. It's not even USB. So I plug it into a mixer board, and from there into my computer. I've used it for years. It's been just amazing. I've never had to do anything with my sound as a result. For you, there are great USB alternatives now. Oh my gosh, there are so many out there. Someone like Christian could probably point you in the right way. Someone like the StreamYard community could push you in the right way and tell you,"these are the ones". I have a connection with the guy who is a sound expert. I've never heard of this before. He has a studio that does 4D sound. I don't even know what that means. Four dementional?

Christian Karasiewicz:
Sweet.

I don't know what that means, audibly. He was telling me about speakers in the ceiling. I'm like, holy moly,. You don't need that obviously for a talk show like this, but think about the possibilities and have fun with it. The bottom line is, when you go on and go live. Enjoy yourself. I'm trying to do that a little bit with these fine people tonight. Thankfully, they're still here with me. I haven't upset them too great, especially Christian. I keep picking on him. Poor guy. I appreciate you all, and it's okay to have fun on your show. Would you guys agree with that? Is it okay to have a little bit of fun?

Julie Riley:
One hundred percent. If you're having fun, your audience is going to be having fun with you.

If you're not having fun... I don't believe in doing anything that I don't find fun. It's a life motto of mine. If I don't want to do it, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Like you said, Julie. If you're not having fun with it, then how in the world do you expect the viewers to want to have fun or engage or interact? It starts with you.

Brian Kelly:
Absolutely, absolutely. One of the things I wanted to pivot to is something I'm deeply interested in because the product that came up earlier when I did the quick ads spot. I like to solve the pain points that people are having in their live streaming experiences. I'm curious. I'll bet, Julie and Christian, you guys have seen and heard a lot about that. I actually had a team member of mine from my company put a poll up in the form of a meme, a graphic. What's the right word? I am having trouble with words these days. It's an infograph. That's it. Simple. I was a little bit shocked by the result, but I was just curious what you guys think. What are the biggest pain points you're seeing? (Either) that you're having individually. Tim, if you have that as well. Dylan as well. Dylan, you probably hear about a bunch of it as well. What are the pain points you are seeing come back over and over and over again? I'm having a horrible time trying to find another guest on my show if they're interview style, or the tech is just blowing my mind. Even though StreamYard is so simple. I'm having trouble with x, y, z. Let's just go around the horn. Dylan, if you don't mind, I put you on the spot. Can you think of any of those pain points that keep coming up over and over again?

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. The biggest thing I see is they underestimate what it does take. I totally agree. Why I promote StreamYard to our clients and everyone I possibly can is because of the ease of use. People go into it and think shows are just like setting up the webcam, and they can be. Setting up the webcam and just talking. Right? There's a lot of back end stuff to this. These shows and I'm learning that as doing my own now. I'm like, holy cow, I'm about to hire fifteen people because this is absurd. But, yeah. I think that's the biggest thing that I see is underestimating it, but also at the same time, they overcomplicate it. They have to think (that) they have to have all these bells and whistles and seventeen thousand cameras and two million dollar microphones. It goes back to our first point of "just do it". It doesn't need to be overcomplicated, but understand going into it, there is some work that takes and understand that you do have to respect what it takes to put these on. At the same time, don't overcomplicate it. It's funny how people work. They overestimate or underestimate it, but then heavily overcomplicate it at the same time. I think that's the biggest one I see.

Brian Kelly:
I'm so glad you brought that up. I've said this so many times, people don't realize what goes on behind the scenes before the show even comes on live for that episode. The amount of time and effort. If you want to do a live show that's of quality and represent yourself and your brand in a way that you want it to be represented professionally. It takes a good amount of work for every single show. That's why I automated nearly every process (that) I use now. It took time to get there, but you can use a team. You can get a team. Like you said, Dylan, to also help out. For me, it's all about quality, and more time is spent before the show by far than the show itself. After the show is over, another good deal of time is spent. That is in the minor edits, the repurposing, the marketing, and everything else that goes beyond. The live show is this tiny window of time, and it's the fun is part of it by the way. When you have everything automated, the rest is not "not fun" because you're not doing it. It's all automated, but definitely great. Thank you for that. Julie, what has been some of the big p.. sorry to wake you up there. What have been some of the big pain points? You are wide awake. I just starttled you. You've seen over and over, I bet you've seen a bunch of them.

Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh. So many, you know, especially because I'm approving all of the comments that are coming into the group. I think one of the huge ones is that the hesitation of people who believe that they have to have everything perfect. That they have to have all of the backdrops, the overlays, the banners, the super expensive microphone, and the super expensive camera. That they have it. The room behind them is messy. They haven't thought about turning to just a blank wall because they're like, "well, then I don't have a fancy studio set up." They get to this point where they're trying to create perfection, and perfection is a fairy tale. It doesn't exist. There is no such thing as perfection. There is, again, where Dylan said the overcomplicating it. They've got to really just slow down and go, "what do I need to get this process going?" What is the minimum to make it happen? From there, then I can then build on it, and build on it each week. Go, "okay, I got live. I got the first one out. I got the jitters out. I hate the way I sound." When I had my agency, I would tell my clients. They'd be like, "I can't stand the way I sound." I'm like, nobody likes the way (that) they sound. There's actually, and I say this all the time, there's a term for it that is a term for not liking the sound of your own voice. I tell people, you have to get over that fear. They're like,"I don't look good on camera, I don't know how to be on camera." The other thing I tell people is to set up a fake Facebook group with nobody else in it but you. Go live in there a bunch of times and just get those jitters out. Get that feeling of pressing the button and going live. Then invite your husband in, your sister, your mother, or whoever. Somebody so that you're talking to somebody. From there, build up each time. As we said with the cameras, again, you can you can slowly build. You can slowly add in the overlays. You can slowly add in the backgrounds.

Brian Kelly:
My goodness! I absolutely love it. I have my own Facebook group that I use just for that. Nothing more. I go in there, and I test things for StreamYard and other things in there. I go live in there because there's no substitute for going live. We've got more buttons to click, and things kind of change their arrangement just a little bit in the window. If you practiced it 20 times without going live, then you go live you're going to go, "what the heck just happened?" I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. That was perfect. Perfect advice. I love that. We've got a comment coming in or two or three. Yeah. Kelly, crucial. Kruschel. Sorry if I got that wrong.

Dylan Shinholser:
Kelly Kruschel. It's Kruschel. She said she's on my team. She's a friend. Hey, we've got a supporter.

Brian Kelly:
Love it. Love it. Then Fran Jesse, I know her. I'm getting ready to make my first video essentially input. Yeah. Reach out, Fran. We're friends. I will give you assistance in any way you want because this is the greatest this is the greatest avenue for media on the planet, in my humble opinion, for so many reasons. One is people get to see you. I love clubhouse. It's also phenomenal in different ways, but people get to see you. They get to interact with you. They can engage with you, and they get to see your essence. It doesn't cost you, the studio owner, studio time. If you do this in the old days when you have to go to a television studio and you want to do a show, it would cost you thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars just to use the studio. Let alone get the media time to put it up on a television station. We're living in wonderful times. It's the greatest time to be alive, in my humble opinion. I'm a tech geek. I'm not young anymore. I'm fifty six, but I can't wait for the rest of what my life has to hold. Yes. You're welcome, Fran. Any time. Wonderful. Wonderful. Alright. Where were we? I got all messed up and loving myself there. We're going to have fun. I'm being real. This is like... I don't know. I'm the most relaxed (that) I've been in a long time with everything that went on today. It was one of those weird, everything-going crazy days. I feel like I'm at home with you guys. That's why.

Dylan Shinholser:
It's been one of those years.

Brian Kelly:
Thank God that last one is over.

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, yeah. Sure.

Brian Kelly:
So, okay. Pain point. Let's go back around one more. Tim, what do you have?

Timothy McNeely:
Yeah. When I first started doing this, my whole goal was to get out there and to talk to the different experts in the different areas of the challenges that my my clients face. I started off as an interview show and just using Zoom to record the video. Then all of a sudden I had the video. Now I had to put an intro in. I had to put an exit in. I had to extract the audio so I could do the podcast. My team members and myself were spinning our wheels. Just trying to really kind of create a workflow around the creation of this content so we could get the message out and help people with their challenges. For me, all of a sudden, the revelation was (that) I can do this live. I can have people type in (and) ask comments as I'm doing the show. Not only that, from start to finish, I can produce the whole thing going live. Right? You go live. You can play an intro now. You can throw in little commercial breaks. You can throw in the outro, and then it's done. Download the audio. You throw it up, and now you've got your podcast. You don't have to upload video to YouTube and Facebook and LinkedIn. It's done for you now, automatically. So really my biggest pain point was just the production side of things and putting everything together so that I could keep talking to people and doing the fun part. Right? I don't want to get caught up in all the details of making this. I want to talk to people, learn, and share that knowledge. Really, a lot of the pain point, just using StreamYard has really been absolved because it's a turn-key easy to use platform.

Brian Kelly:
Amen to all of that brother. Here's the key for everyone that's ever going to do a live show or has done one. The most important part is that you show up and you be the talent. That means you need to be dedicated mentally toward what the task is at hand. If I have too many things going on, like production-wise, which I used to when I didn't automate things. That's in the back of my mind. Did I dot every "i"? Did I cross every "t"? What's going to screw up on this show? Versus showing up fully for my guest. Being there for them. Getting out of myself and my own business and being present for the other person, that's what I'm about. Lifting up the other people, that's what my show's about. It's important to me.

Timothy McNeely:
Actually, if I can touch on that talent piece, Brian? I think he brought something up so important for everyone listening to this. If you're doing any kind of a show where you're interviewing people, chances are (that) the person you're talking to (is) a little bit uncomfortable. Your job, as the talent, is to spend some time before the show really crafting what it's going to look like. What direction are you going to go in? You want to make that person you're talking to look like a star. The more you can rehearse with them and put them at ease, you're going to end up with a much, much better show. Because you've taken a little bit of time to make sure that (the) other person is going to shine just as bright as you do. So, take that time to work with your guests beforehand through interview guides, through little questionnaires. So that you can help prep them, to keep them on a thread, and you can really help them deliver their message. Most people are not trained professional speakers. They just aren't. I've hired some of the best speaking coaches to help me develop messages, stay on topic, and learn how to tell stories. People don't invest time, energy, and effort to do that. You can help them do that through a briefing before you start your live with them.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. That's why I was saying before, I do a thirty-minute preshow. All of us were on here for 30 minutes getting to know each other, making sure all the tech was good, doing some checkout. You were talking about people being nervous and stuff. That's why I'm riding Christian so hard with all these jokes and stuff because it broke his nervousness. You can see his sweating. I am so kidding. This guy's raw. He's a rock. He's awesome. He's a pro. I love this guy, man. I always pick on the quiet ones. I don't know why that is. Christian, man, you're bringing massive value. All kidding aside, you're very experienced. You're matched for what you do. You've said already so many amazing things. What about you, brother?

Christian Karasiewicz:
I'd say this. I think a couple of the pain points. I think one is people want to ask, "how do I get better at my live stream?" I think (that) the first thing is practice. To Julie's point, I think you mentioned having overlays, backgrounds, and all this other stuff. Look at it like this. You want to show your audience as well while you're helping them. You're doing this with them. You have everything at the same time, and you're trying to make everything perfect. Your audience is going to be like, "I'm not going to stick around this person because they've done such a good job already. I won't ever get to that point". They start having that self-doubt. The key thing is going to be practice. You don't have to have every single one of the overlays. Maybe start with the the intro or the thumbnail, and maybe you have an outro for example. (Those are) the first two things you do. As you build the show, then you can add segment graphics. You can add videos. So, you can scale it, but you don't have to have so much at one time because then it's just too overwhelming. That's point number one. Pain point number two is that people, for some reason, think that they're going to immediately be able to monetize their live stream. I say pain point because everybody's like, "oh, I bought all that equipment." Now, you've got to figure out how to pay for all that equipment, you know? If you're struggling already with your business and growing it, then you're not going to immediately monetize live stream. You have to have an audience. You know, you have to build that community. When you go live, they're tuning in because (of) the social platforms. They want to see that you're bringing viewers, they want to see engagement. So, point number two is monetizing your live stream. There are ways to do that, but don't always set out with monetization being number one. It could take a couple of years to monetize. So, get started. Build on it, then make those investments as your business is growing. Yes, mic drop. Yes.

Dylan Shinholser:
Do you have that mic? Just a mic drop? Because I might need to get one.

Brian Kelly:
It's actually super.

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, super real.

Christian Karasiewicz:
That's pretty cool, actually.

Julie Riley:
I like that.

Brian Kelly:
It's actually part of a magic trick that you put in a paper bag. It's a long story, but I found one more affordable that would not break my keyboard because that's what it landed on. You didn't hear it. Oh, my gosh. Golden nuggets there, as usual, from Christian who I give a lot of hard time to. I'm going to stop because you're amazing dude, and I don't want to get mad at me. I want you to be my friend. So many great things. So, you said two years. I was like, wow. I was watching an interview. How many of you have heard of Lewis Howes? Former professional football player and turned incredible entrepreneur. He's all over the place. He was being interviewed, and the guy interviewing him asked him a question. He said, "so, Lewis, if someone came to you, and they were talking about the fact they wanted to start a podcast. Now, we're talking just the audio version. That's what a podcast really is for everyone that may not know it's audio-only. Not video, even though they're going that way." He said, "well, here's what I'd tell them. First, you got to actually be consistent. Whenever you decide to do it, do it at that same day and that same time every week or multiple times a week. Whatever that happens to be. Number two, more importantly. You must commit yourself to doing that for at least, the magic number, two years. If they are not willing to do that, I would tell them, don't even get started." We didn't talk about monetization. None of that was discussed during this Q&A. That was telling. Who was I talking about this earlier with earlier today? It's not necessarily about monetizing. It's about building your platform, and I wanted to add to that. It took me in two years. I was just hitting that moment in time of my live show. That's when the momentum started. He was spot on, and so are you, Christian, about the two years. Then using a certain strategy (that) I use, I continually ask for referrals in a certain way. I eventually landed the one and only Les Brown. Some of you know who that is. Some of you don't. I've noticed some don't and Im like,"what rock are you living under?" He's amazing, and he's been on my show. Because of that, the two-year commitment is my point. Not talking about monetization. Then what I found after doing this for two years and striving for excellence all the time in every facet, I'm talking about the preshow communication with upcoming guests and the setup and the prep that they all go through and my system makes sure they do. The show itself and then after the show, all the post-production, everything that goes into it. Once you have that, people notice and my show, without my intending it to be, became an incredible, powerful lead magnet for my business. Focus, just as Christian was stating so properly, does definitely, positively impact your business. If you do it right. You do it high quality, and again, within reason within the resources you have. Go ahead, Christian.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I was going to say. That's another point that people look at, and they want to generate revenue off of it. That revenue may not be actual money upfront. It may end up being (help) (to) drive more leads to my website. It's not necessarily driving more people to my social channels. You're following is... It's OK. That's not going to necessarily grow your business because you had five more followers on Instagram or something like that. It's potentially getting them back to your website, which can be an opportunity for them to schedule a coaching call with you, maybe buy a product from you, learn from you for example. You're not going to get every single person to become a customer, but you're going to be able to use it to generate more leads.

Brian Kelly:
Totally, totally true.

Dylan Shinholser:
That's why I do it.

Brian Kelly:
You see on the top of this screen "streaming live on" and then five. We're doing it to eight right now or seven right now. "Listen-on" down below. On the bottom, there's actually twenty five of those like us could fit them all. Roku now was on Fire TV. Look, you're not making money from those, but here's what happened. How many of you have heard of Kevin Harrington? Shark Tank? Original Shark Tank? He has a partner named, "Seth Green", and they do a podcast together. They've been doing it for years now. They have five-hundred plus episodes. We got introduced, Seth and I. I met Kevin. We shared the stage once. I'm not name-dropping, but yes, I am. It was awesome, and it was fun. Seth reached out. We were connected by someone else. We were introduced, and Seth did his own homework. He came back, we literally talked on Zoom, and he says, "wow, I did some research. I looked you up and, my God, you're everywhere." I just wanted to say, "yeah, that's right." So, you want to get out there. That's why, shameless plug, I call it, "carpet bomb marketing". You saturate with everything you've got within reason. Right? If you can automate it, it can be near or completely free. So just do it. Why not add it to your arsenal? So, it works. Just be consistent to a minimum of two years. Get in touch with people like Julie, Christian, Tim, and Dylan. You might make that even quicker than two years. I'll direct you to the shortcuts that many of us did by trial and error.

Timothy McNeely:
Touching on the monetization piece, a good friend of mine runs one of the top coaching consultancies out there. Right. Very, very successful. Runs a great podcast, great show. I ask him one day. I said, "have you need any money doing your podcast?" He thought for a second. He says, "naw, I've actually lost money doing it. The relationships that I've made...I've made millions off (of) that." If you approach it from that standpoint... There's different goals, but I always approach, you know, what's the end result? What are you looking for out of your show? Why are you doing it? That's how you can measure the success of it. Is it helping you achieve whatever goals you set for yourself?

Brian Kelly:
Totally agree. It's very similar. Isn't it? To writing a book? I'm holding up another namedrop. Yes, it's very similar to writing your own book. Because a lot of people want to write a book and make a living off of the sales of the book. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, most of the time it just doesn't happen that way. If anyone comes up to you and you're talking to them... During the course of conversation, maybe you ask them what they've been up to? Or, hey, I've authored a book. The moment they say that, in your eyes, do they not lift up in an influence in your mind? Right then and there? Instantly. It builds authority. That's exactly what this live show, and live shows like it, are doing. When you're giving evidence of it by spitting it out to all of these platforms, there's no way people can't find you and know that you're serious. You know, it's showing that you have a commitment level. It's showing that you have a quality level of professionalism. It's not about the show itself. It's like, well, if I do business with that person, or will I... Will I want to do business that person? If they're professional. Yes. If they put on a shoddy show, they might give me shoddy service. If I do business with them. Does that make sense? People want to (be) representing yourself in the best. Do it the best you can, but do it. Please, don't delay. Don't try to be perfect. You heard everybody talk. Go ahead, Dylan. You had something?

Dylan Shinholser:
Well, yeah. There's indirect ways to make money with shows, live streams, and of course direct (ways). Right. Direct is selling sponsorships, ad-space, all that good stuff. The indirect monetization is so much more powerful. When I do shows or when I hop on shows or anything, it's literally just to build a top-down awareness of myself. I just want people to know what Dylan Shinholser is. Then that way, because I do multiple things, I'm never trying to sell one product at any given time. I'm trying to sell myself, and what it does is it gives me that outlet to do it. Then if you're hosting a show. Right? This maybe goes into some other topics around how to market and things like that. It's a powerful relationship tool because when you can open your platform to other people that you're looking to connect with. I'm in the business of working with influencers and throwing their events. Well, the best way to connect was get them on my show. It gave me a reason to reach out that wasn't pitchy or sales. It was more or less. Hey, man, I just want to give you an outlet, because I think what you talk about is cool. Tell my people about it. After the show, I was like, "hey, man, what are you doing next Tuesday? I need a speaker." Or "hey, man. I have some ideas (that) I want to pitch you or (some) things. They're more receptive. So, I always do shows and things not about the direct money I get, but the indirect thing. It's the indirect impact that I get from relationships, or people sharing my stuff out and people go, oh man, he sounds semi-intelligent unless they're watching this. Then then they'll go, okay, great. Let me go over to this platform that he runs with this business that he does or whatever because he sounded halfway intelligent on that show. Right? So, I think the indirect monetization is what most people don't... They don't get that the instant gratification of like that five thousand dollars sponsorship check. When I forgo that and go on to bring on much more money on the backend with the people I connect with, in the top influence that I get.

Brian Kelly:
The magic word there was "relationship".

Dylan Shinholser:
Relationships all day, every day. That's all I do- is build relationships, and how can I do it? Do more shows like this. Can I get it out? You're on like forty-two different podcast or outlets here, right? Every one of those. Every time you put a show on it, you're building a relationship with someone on that platform. Even if it's just you talking, and they're listening. You're building that relationship. Everything (that) I do, is built on: how can I develop relationships? Live streams is just an amazing way to do so.

Brian Kelly:
Posting them is one thing. Right? That's a great thing. What I learned through a podcasting expert friend of mine is the maybe not as equally important, but possibly greater importance, is getting on other people's shows. That includes audio podcasts only. He explained how his business skyrocketed when he did what he called, "podcast guest marathons". He would have someone get him booked in his team. He would carve out three days and just say get as many as you can for me. He'd do that. Then when they ask him about how to get in contact with him... This is the gold right here... It's not go to my Facebook page and look up my name and message me. He would tell them to go to his podcast website and from there to subscribe. Now he's building a following. It's genius. It's so genius. I just want to impart that. The cool thing, though, is when you're hosting a high-quality live show that opens the door for you to be a guest on many more.

Dylan Shinholser:
Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Being a guest is what goes back to the authority building. Right? If I can build my authority, I build my influence. If I do have something to sell... If I'm trying to build my brand or whatever it is or I'm just trying to get to as many people as possible to talk about events with them... That authority I call it, "authority hacking", being able to get them on your show. That'll get your show in front of their audience, and then going on to other shows helps you develop your authority. It's like writing a book. I was I'm a guest on this show, this show, this show. It's like writing a book. Your authority starts to become a little bit more when you're leveraging their influence. Right? When you're a guest on the show, if that show has a following, you becoming a guest on that show gives you authority because now you have the validation of the host that everyone is following and love. So, I can authority hack by getting on other people's shows.

Brian Kelly:
It leverges. You have a whole new tribe watching and interacting with you as well. I mean, this is one of the most powerful things people can use. If they just get out of that rut of trying to find a way to make money with it directly, that's when they'll see the real value come through. It's about building relationships. It's long-term. Not short, quick kill. I got to make a commission and run. It's build a relationship. Establish it. If you go into this with the mindset of it not being for directly making money, I personally think you have greater success. The long-term plays always work better than the short-term. Short-term works can work, but they're temporary. The long-term is a lot more permanent and lasting. Just think of all the wonderful bread crumbs you're leaving throughout the world. Through all the venues and platforms we've been talking about. In speaking terms, if you're on stage, that's what we call a "stage swap". Where you would be a guest on someone else's stage in return for them saying, "okay, but I'm going to do the opposite." We'll have you on our as well. The same thing with podcasts and live video. It works really great. Just make sure they're a fit.

Dylan Shinholser:
They've got to fit. (It's) got to makes sense.

Brian Kelly:
Both ways. Yeah.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I want to add something real quick to that. If you are consistently going live, so it's great to be consistent, go live on a regular basis, but also think about the long game. It's a couple of years, for example. Also, don't be afraid to be making changes and adjustments as things are moving along. It's not about substituting equipment. It's about looking at your process. For example, you mentioned Brian, that you have automation on some of the things. Think of smarter ways to take bigger jumps ahead. If I have to send someone an email, and I'm like, "hey, do you want to be on my show?" Then I have to deal with the whole back and forth. Well, okay. Yeah. What time? Then I have to send everything back. There are tools out there like Calendly, Harmonizely. You can send a calendar link to somebody and they can only book a certain slot for example and vice versa. This takes out the guesswork out of having to do all that back and forth. That's a way to work smarter because now you want to book people for your show. You send them one link. The person then doesn't have to send you a message back, and you can even use it to collect feedback for your show questions. There's not a lot of back-and-forth and downtime.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, absolutely. I do that as well, and it's a godsend. I could not do what I'm doing. I would not do what I'm doing without the automation part of it. I have an onboarding form. You guys all... Most, not all of you went through it, but that was a mini version. Julie, you went through the big version. I then changed it right after I saw that. Like you said, make adjustments. That's what I did. I'm constantly doing that. Improving. I have a document automatically generated in Google Docs with your bio. The answer you had to why you think you would bring value to the show. Also, all the questions you chose to be asked for the show. Some of you didn't see that. So everything's done. The Q&A part used to take hours and hours doing manually. Now I just give them thirty-eight questions. Choose ten, and we're good. You tick the box. You choose what I'm going to ask you. (I) just made it a system, and it has worked beautifully. I don't even use the ten questions hardly. I use maybe the first three. Then we go organically like we've been doing tonight. My God, it's six twenty-nine! Are you kidding me? I'm having too much fun. Real quick. I know everyone that came on in the beginning. You heard this thing about a prize. We're going to do that real quick, and we'll come back and wrap it up. For those of you watching, remember in the beginning I said, "take notes and don't go clicking away and stuff like that"? Now I think Dylan, Julie, Tim, and Christian will also give you permission to do what I'm saying, and that is take out your phone. Take your gaze away from us for just a moment, but you'll still have to look back. Yes, yes. You can do this too. Please, do. What I want you to do....

Dylan Shinholser:
I need a vacation.

This is how you can enter to win a five-night stay at a five-star luxury resort of your choosing. Here's what you do. Take out your message app on your phone. Fire that up- your text message app. Where you would type in the name of the person normally that you're going to text. Instead, put in this number: three, one, four, six, six five-they're all doing it behind the scenes- one, seven, six, seven. I love this. Three, one, four, six, six, five, one, seven, six, seven. If you're watching this and you're not a guest, go ahead and write this down because I gonna take the screen down. I want you to get it. This will be open until the end of the evening. Where you actually put in the message... Where you might put emojis, those kinds of things, not emojis, just two words separated by a dash or a hyphen. Those words are peak (P-E-A-K) dash Vacation (V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N). All together. No spaces. Peak vacation. Send it off, then monitor your phone. You're going to get an automated response back asking you for your email address, and that will then officially enter you into the contest. Compliments of The Big Insider Secrets. Our buddies, Jason Nash, the owner. Dear friend of mine who lets us give this away every single week. Every show, actually. We do more than one a week now on average. So go ahead, get that entered. I can't wait to see who's going to win that. You're going to be asked later, you don't have to if you're the winner, to provide your Facebook information. Just your profile so we can say congrats and give you a high-five online and get others to come watch the show. To be honest, that's another strategy. We're just rolling back the curtain. That's why we do it this way. You can offer incentives like that. My friend has offered that to anyone who is my friend. If you're not my friend, you don't get it. If you're on as part of the panel here, they're all my friends. Christian may differ on that opinion, but I think he's my friend.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm your friend. Yes.

Brian Kelly:
Ok, good. I picked on you so hard. I apologize, but you're just you're a fun guy. I appreciate you for putting up with it. I definitely do stuff like that. Implement it and announce it in the beginning. That helps retention. I'm just pulling back the curtain for everybody. You can do different things like that. Having multiple people, I noticed, is also a little better than just one every single time. So, mix it up now and then. Alright. I know we're a little bit over, but I want to give you each another chance for a final parting tip. Anything you want on live streaming. It could be hardware, software, how you smile, what bling you wear, don't wear, your makeup. I'm wearing some, by the way, just so the guys know. Yeah, I don't know what they call it. It's not like guy up.. guy-liner, but it's like makeup. I know. That was bad.

Dylan Shinholser:
I haven't heard of that one.

Brian Kelly:
I just did that. I'm not a young fart anymore. Anyway. So, Dylan, we'll do the same thing. Go around the horn. What would be one final quick tip, or parting words of advice, you can give our wonderful viewing and listening audience?

Dylan Shinholser:
Keep it simple stupid. Don't overcomplicate it. There's things that you need to do and standards you need to meet. At the end of the day, keep it simple stupid will allow you to not overcomplicated it (and) get overwhelmed. Once you get overwhelmed, it's a wash. I would just say as a life advice, event advice, live stream advice, just keep it simple stupid and keep it moving.

Brian Kelly:
Real quick, I got to interject on that. Just so people know that that comes from an acronym K.I.S.S. So we're not calling everybody stupid, for one.

Dylan Shinholser:
Well...

Brian Kelly:
That was great. I have a friend who is Sicilian in nature, and he did this from the stage. He talked about it, and he brought up the whole thing. We're talking about doing it without complicating it. He goes, "It's like K.I.S.S. Who knows what K.I.S.S means?" Someone raised their hands. They said, "keep it simple, stupid". He goes,"Oh, no, no. It's keep it simple Sicilian." He lighten the load of the stupid part. I thought that was cool. Sorry, Julie, what is your parting tip?

Julie Riley:
You know, you're going to have to get started at some point. In order to do that, you're going to have to get over your fear. Go practice. Get those done, but also go watch and find other people that you resonate with their live shows. Start to take pieces from each of those. Now, obviously, you cannot go copy their live show and recreate it. You can pull little things from multiple different people's live shows that you like and that resonate with you. If you're comfortable and things are resonating with you, you're going to exude that comfort and that confidence out to the rest of the world.

Brian Kelly:
I love it. I love it. Alright. The man, the myth, the legend, Timothy J. McNeely. What is your final parting word of advice?

Timothy McNeely:
I'm going to close with a story. The purpose of this story is to illustrate the power of doing a show. July 20th, 1969, the first man walked on the moon. He left his footprints up there. On the moon, there's no wind. There's no rain. There's no weather, and those footprints today in twenty twenty-one look exactly like they did in nineteen sixty-nine. They're going to be exactly the same a million years from now. You too. You leave footprints on the hearts and the minds of everyone that you come in contact with. In streaming and having a platform, that's your opportunity to leave your footprints and to have an impact on people. Get clear about what your message is. What's the impact you want to have? If you do that, all of the other puzzle pieces are going to fall in place for you.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, baby. Okay, I've got to do it. I've got to do it. That was amazing.

Dylan Shinholser:
You have to get one of the little lower third animation gifts that are possible here on StreamYard. It's just a mic drop every time someone does one.

Brian Kelly:
Not nearly as much fun though, bro.

Christian Karasiewicz:
That's true. Fair. Very fair. I'll give it to you. I've got to get me one of those little squishy microphones.

Brian Kelly:
A little sound effect like I just broke my desk or something. That would be good. Alright, Christian, you've had a long time to think about it now. No pressure, but this better be a good one. I'm kidding. What do you have?

Christian Karasiewicz:
Let's see. The best piece of advice, I think, would be don't have gas or gear acquisition syndrome. You're going to watch people doing their live streams, and they're going to go and be like, "hey, I got to get that mic because this person upgraded." Oh, they got a new webcam. Remember? If you develop a plan, the whole thing is work the plan.. work the system. It's great (that) somebody else got some equipment, but it doesn't mean that you need to go out and get that yourself as well. Remember, work your plan. When you get to the certain points, maybe set that as a milestone. If I get to a certain number of viewers, for example, or a certain number of subscribers on a channel, then I might need to upgrade something. Don't be buying stuff just because someone else is doing so.

Brian Kelly:
Sales drive service. I love it. You guys are amazing. Thank you so much for coming on. Everyone who watched live. Thank you for coming on. Those of you that watched on the recording. Thank you for spending your valuable time with us, and those listening on the podcast. The same goes for you. Definitely. I hope you took a lot of notes because these are experts in the field. They are giving their value, their heart, their experience. They only charged me two-hundred thousand dollars for it. It's really been a deal. I'm kidding. They charged me nothing. You got incredible value from these amazing, amazing professionals. I can't thank you all enough. I appreciate you Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. Thank you from the bottom of my heart with all seriousness. I know we had some fun tonight. Thank you, Christian, so much for letting me pick on you so hard. You've been a great guy. I look forward to getting to know each and every one of you at a deeper level. If you're open to that after tonight. Appreciate you all. On behalf of these amazing people, that's it. We're out. My name is Brian Kelly. I'm the host of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Until next time we will see you. Be blessed. So long for now.

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