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Brian Kelly:
So here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us, who have been hustling, and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back. Work dedicated. Determined. And driven. How do we finally break through, and win? That is the question. And this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly. And this The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Oh, baby, we have another phenomenal guest. I cannot wait to share her brilliance with you. Yes. Josee Brisebois is in the house and waiting to come on camera, and she'll be here in just a few moments, I promise. But first, a little introduction. The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, very quick, is a show we put together for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs, and we invite only successful entrepreneurs onto our show. And the reason that is, is because these individuals, we've done over one hundred and forty by the time of this show coming on. The reason we do this is for you to take your business to that next level. I have done again, like I said, over one hundred and forty this show I had a previous show I did with a partner back in the day. We did one hundred shows there. And I'll tell you something, the value that you're going to learn is, is beyond, is beyond any description that I can give you. I can't even put a price tag on it. I should charge for the show. I never do. But that is all to say. Take it that seriously as you're watching, take notes and be sure to follow us all the way through to the end. You'll see why in just a moment. So The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show is about what I call the three pillars of success. And I began basically studying only successful people over the past decade, a little bit more than a decade or so. And I found these three patterns kept developing that I witnessed and realized that all of these very successful people had. And you might guess what those three are. They are literally the name of the show. So mind, being mind set. And that is to a person each of these very successful individuals had a very powerful and also, more importantly, very flexible mindset. And, body is literally about the fact that they took care of themselves. And we're talking about exercise on a regular basis. Don't need to be a body builder. If you're a man, you don't need to be a supermodel. If you're a woman just taking care of yourself, exercise on a regular basis and also nutrition wise, in taking healthy food and healthy drink. And then business. Business is multifaceted. And what I found with all of these very successful individuals is that they had found a way to master all the skill sets that were necessary to create and grow a thriving business. And these skill sets included things like marketing, sales, team building, systematizing leadership. And I could just go on, and on, and on. And the thing is, you might be thinking, Brian, how do you master so many skill sets even in one's own lifetime? I'm glad you asked, because you actually don't have to master every one of them. That's the good news. In fact, one of them is all you need to really, truly master. And I actually mentioned it. It was on the list I just mentioned a second ago. And it is the skill set of leadership, once you've mastered the skill set of leadership, you can now bring in people that have mastered those other skill sets you have yet to do and then lead them and build a team. And once you've done that, you can delegate all those things you have not mastered, which to be honest, as business owners, we should delegate most of the tasks that our day to day mundane, and we should be the ones that are out there creating and looking for new ways to grow our business rather than working in it. We want to work on it. And that is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show on that show. And another wonderful thing about very successful people,....to a person. What I found was they are also very avid readers. They are voracious readers of books and not just any books, the right books. And with that, I want to segway into a really quick segment. I like to call affectionately bookmarks.
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Brian Kelly:
There you see reachyourpeaklibrary.com, and real quick note, real quick note is to take notes. And avoid clicking away. Resist that temptation. And just write down resources as we go through, because I know Josee is going to have many resources for you. In fact, I know of a couple already, as we were talking before the show, and you'll want to just write those down and stay with us and keep listening and keep your gaze and attention here on the show, if you're watching us live, if you're listening on podcast after the fact, keep listening, but write notes. If you're driving and you need to take notes, pull over, stop and take notes or listen to it again and take notes because they're that valuable. So, reachyourpeaklibrary.com, just write that down. And visit it after the show. Visit all the resources after. All right. Reach your peak library. That is a website that I had put together and built with you in mind. I'm not kidding. This - I didn't build this for me. I didn't build this for my business, for my company. I built it for all of you wonderful people, entrepreneurs and business people who are looking to grow their business to the next level. And the reason I did that is because I myself did not begin reading regularly 'til about the age of forty seven. I'm fifty six now. And I then realized the sheer magnitude of value and how my own life and business propelled forward after I began finally reading these incredible, amazing books. And so what I did is I only put those that had a profound impact on my business life, my personal life or both, on this list. So I'm not every book I read is in here, but you'll see quite a few great ones in here. And that's just for you to go and have a nice go to list that's at least been vetted by one other successful person so that the odds of you not wasting your time are increased. That's a it's. Just here's a gift to you. All these buttons where it says buy here, they just go straight to Amazon. And yeah, we'll probably make a few pennies and probably that's it. I don't know. I've never even looked I think it's less than a buck. It doesn't matter. It's not here to make money. This is for you to have a library to go to and just grab a book, read it, go get the next one. Find another one that you love, that you haven't read and grab it and read it and really propel your business and your personal life quickly by doing that. Speaking of propelling your business, you know what we have this amazing guest is going to show you exactly how to do that. So let's bring her on right now, shall we? Yeah, let's do that.
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It's time for the guest expert spotlight. Savvy. Skillful. Professional. Adept. Trained. Big league. Qualified.
Brian Kelly:
And there she is. Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only, Josee Brisebois.
Josee Brisebois:
Hello, Brian.
Brian Kelly:
Hello, Josee. I have to tell you, I had to practice your name. That, was fantastic. I love, I love the, the flow. Josee Brisebois. It's like...Ahhh.
Josee Brisebois:
It sounds fancy, doesn't it?
Brian Kelly:
It does. But it's because you.
Josee Brisebois:
Do you know what Brisebois means?
Brian Kelly:
I have no idea.
Josee Brisebois:
It means break wood. So it's not so fancy.
Brian Kelly:
Oh my goodness.
Josee Brisebois:
So, I like, I like to see that I come from a very long line of stylish lumberjacks.
Brian Kelly:
That's awesome. I love it. I love it! Hey, real quick, before we dive into the show, a little bit of housekeeping, I would be remiss if I didn't mention that everyone watching this live right now, you have the chance to win, yes, that's right, a five night stay, at a five star luxury resort. And that's compliments of our pals, you see the big red logo up there in the upper corner. If you're watching the video, this is thebiginsidersecrets.com. Jason Nast, my good, good dear friend who owns that business. He offers this to you. And he gave me the ability, to give this away. Every single show. It's a five night vacation stay. And it's legitimate. You're not going to be pulled off into a basement and taken through a timeshare presentation for five hours. I promise you. And we know this because Jason Nast the owner of the company himself, has tested it no less than three times. He has gone in and reported back. It was awesome. So we're going to give that away. So stay tuned for that. And then, wait, there's more. A little bit more. If you're struggling with putting on a live show together and it's maybe overwhelming and you want a lot of the processes done for you while still enabling you to put on a high quality show and connect with great people like Josee and, grow your business all at the same time, then head on over to carpetbombmarketing.dom. Carpet bomb marketing, saturate the marketplace with your message. And, one of the key components that is contained in the carpet bomb marketing courses. This is one that you'll learn how to absolutely master. It's the very service we use to stream our live shows right here on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. We're using it right now. Over the course of the past, over nine years now, we have tried many of these, quote unquote, TV studio solutions for live streaming. And I'm here to tell you, StreamYard is the best of the best. It combines supreme ease of use along with unmatched functionality. So start streaming high quality, professional looking live shows. You can do this for free, with StreamYard now. Now, don't go there now. But write this down. Write down R-Y-P dot I-M forward slash streamlive all together. R-I-P dot I-M forward slash streamlive. That's the website. And go get your free account with StreamYard and start streaming incredibly beautiful live shows right away. And now to the woman of the hour, at last Josee Brisebois is with us. She's in the house and I'm going to give her the introduction she deserves. And then we're going to move into some phenomenal Q and A. And by the way, for those of you watching, ask us questions, ask Josee questions, put them in the chat and we'll pull them up as they come in. So, here we are. I am here to introduce the one, the only Josee Brisebois. Josee is a personal brand image expert and fashion stylist for entrepreneurs with a remarkable professional background. Since 2009, this shows she has experience, Josee has been creating personal brands and styling speakers, entrepreneurs and professionals. I need some styling. Prior to opening her company, Josee was a television newscaster and a Hollywood actress who starred in a feature film. Maybe we'll bring that up so we can all watch that together. In addition to her on camera experience, she is an accomplished branding expert, off camera, who served as a marketing and branding manager in the technology industry. That gets my geek needle going. A graduate of McGill University with a degree in business and marketing, Josee has been seen on, het this, ABC, NBC, CBS and PBS. For those of you that live under a rock, those are television stations. She applies more than 20 years of experience to help entrepreneurs get promoted, attract high level clients and business opportunities while creating an absolutely, unforgettable, personal brand. Who doesn't want that? All right, let's jump in. Officially, there she is. Josee Brisebois. Welcome to the show. Yes! So! Great accolades. Many accomplishments. Television actress in a movie...oh my goodness. Newscaster....You've done so many things. And obviously, by doing all that, that gives you a leg up in your industry, what you do, by getting people ready, not just for a camera, but for their brand. Whether it's on camera, whether it's just photos for their website, its presence in front of a spee...a group of, when you're speaking. I can just see all the applications here, because your first impressions got to be your best, right?
Josee Brisebois:
Yeah. Definitely
Brian Kelly:
And so, this is the person to connect with. And we'll give you all this information as we go through the show. But what I wanted to do, Josee, is first, you know, those are great accolades and experience and everything in the bio. I like to go a little deeper and find out what is going on in that beautiful brain of yours. To get motivated every single day. Because let's face it, being an entrepreneur, you know, you and I know this, is super simple, right? There's never an issue any, ever.
Josee Brisebois:
Never. Never ever. (laughing)
Brian Kelly:
It is not for the faint of heart. And so to be able to be a successful entrepreneur, one must develop one heck of a mind, a mindset. And for you, Josee, when you get up every single morning knowing that all of these challenges are in front of you. And by the way, people don't get this, the more successful you become, the more challenges you are befriended with. So you really need to get your mindset straight. But for you, Josee, what is it that keeps you motivated every single day when you get up, what is going on in that beautiful brain to say, "I've got this and we're going to power through another day."
Josee Brisebois:
Well, let's just preface by saying that, I don't feel this way every single day, I do have my little bell moments. I believe everyone does. It's really not a piece of cake, as you said. But, umm, I feel like you were saying, I keep my body healthy, and my - and so my mind healthy. And that helps so much just to to have a good night's sleep, and to have a good night's sleep, you need to be healthy. So that's one. I do the visualization, that kind of thing, as much as possible because I have little kids. So, they wake me up in the morning. I don't always get to do it, but when I can, I do it. I have tremendous amount of determination and I think that this is highly necessary if you're going to be an entrepreneur. So, yeah, for me, it's a combination of all these things because if I did not take care of my health, I don't think I could do it.
Brian Kelly:
And that's that's a great segway because of the show, The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. When it comes to physical fitness beyond just being ready for each day - I mean, what does it really mean? What does it do for you? I mean, if you did not work out, if you didn't exercise, if you did not eat and drink in a proper manner, what is it done for you, so far in your walk?
Josee Brisebois:
So if I did not take care of myself, and I'm including everything from exercising regularly at least twice a week and eating healthy, I don't drink alcohol, I would tend to go into a mild depression. Like I know I have this tendency, like I just know myself. So, I know I have to keep on top of it and just, don't so I don't go there. I just don't, I don't let myself go there. So it's really helping me to keep my head clear and - yeah, focused.
Brian Kelly:
That's the one thing I love about physical fitness and just healthy lifestyle, is that once you've experienced it, you will continually come back to it, even if you fall off the wagon for a little bit. And, I know this from fifty six years of being on this planet, (laughing), how that can go. And I have a I used to be a certified personal trainer, and there were times where I would skip, you know, and just ideally go on vacation, whatever the case may be, and I just realized, man, I don't feel good. And, it's like this inherent addiction. That's the word I'm looking for. And this is a positive addiction because it's not a drug, although it can be like one when you get those endorphins going. I literally worked out right before this show, Josee, and I like to do that before before any big task or something that's really important for me that day, I saved the workout for right before that moment, and then I'm jazzed and up, and excited. And that way I can be one hundred percent present for you, for the audience, in this particular case. There's so many benefits and there's very little bad things, side effects, I guess, from working out. Other than, you know, if you may have a pain here and there. Be careful and seek professionals who can right that ship. I have, I have knees that creak when I go up the stairs. And I hired a guy and he showed me how by lifting more weight, more than I ever lifted in my life, heavier weight, how that actually fixed it, it blew my mind. So there are other ways to fix things that you won't believe in no matter what age you are. It's phenomenal. So just know that.
Josee Brisebois:
I have to ask you about that, because my knees squeak too. (laughing)
Brian Kelly:
I have a perfect resource for you. In fact, it's a man - woman team. He does the man. She does the women. They are phenomenal. And so they both get on the show. Go figure that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm really so I really have a warm spot for physical fitness and everything to do with it - nutrition. And, it just makes sense, right. When you, when you workout, when you move, your body's healthy. With Covid a lot of people aren't moving. A lot of people are sitting in, you know, certain things are getting bigger than they've ever been before. (laughing)
Josee Brisebois:
I hear it all the time in my profession now. "Oh, I need to lose weight." Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, exactly. You know, they want to fit into those wonderful clothes that you're suggesting that they wear. And the....
Josee Brisebois:
And Covid did the number on people, that's for sure.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. With all the jackets and the buttons about the pop off, I admit it here. (laughing) You know, it's just this thing of refusal. "I'm not buying any more clothes. I'm just going to - I'm going to lose the weight back to where I was. I'm not doing it. I'll just suffer while I'm sucking it in the whole time." (laughing)
Brian Kelly:
All right. We've got some folks chiming in, looking in. Ahhh....guess who? The one and only Lois Koffi.
Josee Brisebois:
Lois! We were just talking about you and how amazing you are.
Brian Kelly:
We says love you two. And guess what Lois? Love you more. I always say it with my kids..
Josee Brisebois:
Love you more too. (laughing)
Brian Kelly:
She love the pink. I wonder if Josee knew anything about what to wear on this show. I just wonder. Cheers. So, thanks for coming on. Lois is an amazing friend of both of ours and we were literally talking about you Lois right before the show in all good ways, I promise you. Very good ways. So thanks for coming on. You must have heard us. (laughing) That's great. So great. So physical fitness - and in your line of work, Josee, I can only imagine that if people are looking at you and if you are not fit or in shape, that could probably hurt your business, wouldn't you think?
Josee Brisebois:
I wouldn't say so. I wouldn't say so, because it's all part of the personal image that you project. Like, yes, it's something to pay attention to what you wear, but if you don't care about, you know, how healthy you are, that also speaks something, right.
Brian Kelly:
And it shows up in so many ways, doesn't it? The energy levels - you know, if you're, if you're not taking care of yourself, you're not getting enough sleep, if you're not exercising and if you're putting garbage in your mouth, then it's going to show in other ways beyond just the shape of your body. It's also going to show in your energy level. Go ahead.
Josee Brisebois:
Did you know that women who wear makeup, make more money than the ones who don't? And I'm relating this to the way when you exercise, it's all about showing how you take care of yourself. And that, you know, transpires to other people. And it transpires, and like, if you take care of yourself, then you care about the work that you do, you care about the results that you give. And that's all subconscious messages, and people get from you. So that's where taking care of your body also sends a subconscious message, to people.
Brian Kelly:
Totally agree. Totally agree. And so talking about first impressions. So, you know, get a good night's sleep the night before you're going to meet somebody or go on camera, right on Zoom, if it's Zoom or anything else. Look, even if it's a meeting, like a work type meeting with maybe clients, but maybe you're just collaborating with somebody else. I still do what I can to you know, I don't come on wearing, say, a tank top, which I like to be comfortable all day long. I'm in shorts and a tank top most of the time, while I'm working. But when it's camera time, I've got my own little closet here in my studio and I just run over and grab the hanger and I put on my work, quote unquote, shirt and come back and just be there and be present and look a little bit professional. I mean, I'm not wearing this, the blazer and everything, all the time. I could, in a heartbeat. But yeah, it's about - you know, some people, like, just be comfortable, be yourself. I see that too. But if it's a first impression, I don't know. I don't know if wearing a hat backwards and chains down to the middle, if you're an entrepreneur...depends on what you're working in, ight. I guess.
Josee Brisebois:
Yes. Ahhh...I love your visual, kind of, examples. (laughing)
Brian Kelly:
I've just seen it. You know, I see it sometimes. I'm like, what are you doing? (laughing) You know (laughing) Like, this is the first time I ever...
Josee Brisebois:
With Covid now...You know what? You know what I tell people is like, "Go at it, you know. Where your yoga pants and where your sweats. But on top, just like, look like a million bucks. It's so easy to do. Just put a nice jacket on. Not hard."
Brian Kelly:
It's it's so cool. It was a story many years ago, and I won't go through the whole thing, but, what is happening today on Zoom is is commonplace now where people will wear something nice up top and shorts or boxers or whatever beneath...ahhh...that was not commonplace at all before Covid.
Josee Brisebois:
No.
Brian Kelly:
And there was a skit on television and it's a long story, I want to get through it quick, but there were a lot of lookalike actors that were like Jay Leno, looking like David Letterman, looking like Arsenio Hall, and Dennis Miller was - he was - it was his show. And they were having these wars over who got who - what guest on which show because they were signing exclusive contracts, all this stuff. But I have a buddy who is the Jay Leno lookalike. He looked - I mean, he had the chin and everything was awesome. And you told me, "You want to hear something real interesting? He was dressed as a godfather and how the cheeks filled and he had the tux on. But when we were done and he got up away from the table, he was wearing shorts and no shoes." And I just laughed at that. That's genius. So from that day forward, every live show I've ever done, I'm in shorts right now. I have no shoes, and I'm pulling back the curtain, they're workout shorts. I'm comfortable. (laughing)
Josee Brisebois:
Well, you know, typically when I just meet with clients, that's what I wear my yoga pants. Today I said I'm, I'm going to wear my nice pants that match my jacket, just in case I have to get up. You never know. You never know. Sometimes people get up and then not everyone sees their shorts or their pants. So you have to make sure you don't have to get up.
Brian Kelly:
And so you say something. That is a great point, though, and I will point that out is, you know, dress the way that makes you feel professional. I'm fine. I feel, I do feel professional. I know what I'm doing. I've got a jacket on. I have the look there. I also, this is, I'm not kidding. I put on cologne. As if I'm going to something. I make it as if it's an event. I'm actually using, I call it, man make up now. Because, I'm getting older and there's some splotches here and there and hopefully....it's really shinny right now. But, just, do what you got to do to present yourself and you don't have to go overboard. But make yourself feel ready, present and professional, because it shows - it's like, it's like a dog sensing fear, isn't it Josee? When someone isn't at their A-game.
Josee Brisebois:
(laughing) Yes. And even - yeah, like you said, I love that you wear cologne beforehand because it puts you in that state of mind, gives you, like this, like an ounce of confidence, you have extra confidence. And the same thing for me, like I just need to wear my little lipstick and that, just that makes me feel better. So whatever works for for you, you know, for... everyone is different. What, how does it make you feel, whatever you're doing?
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. And it may be a backwards hat with big gold chains that they may work and that's OK. That could be the brand. That goes with the brand. But, just to be present and - we're talking to the expert right here, Josee, she knows this stuff. So I want to talk more about your business. We've kind of been skirting across the top of it a little bit and wanted to find out who is your target market, what type of entrepreneurs do you work with? Are they solo partners? Do you do corporate gigs where you go into corporations or is it smaller businesses, larger businesses? And then, what kind of services do you offer? How does the process work?
Josee Brisebois:
Ok. So mainly it's entrepreneurs because more like a smaller businesses, because, as you said, I, I have this personal branding background. I used to be a branding marketing manager in the corporation. And so to me, it's like second nature. I understand that. I know how to create an effective brand. So, so I focus on creating a personal brand for entrepreneurs because entrepreneurs, we are the face of our company. The first thing that people see when they come across your business is you. You know, all entrepreneurs. we put all this money into having a professional looking website and - which is great. But what a lot of people don't realize is like, does your image match that professionalism. Because of people, they see your professional everything but then when they meet you, you don't look that professional and therefore probably successful. It's going to hurt the, the bottom line. It's going to hurt the business. And, so I focus a lot on the personal branding because the personal brand, what the image that you project and it's kind of like it, gives out....I was talking about subconscious messages...it gives out a subconscious message of what kind of person you are, what are your values. And it even goes with the kinds of services that you offer. Everything speaks to that. And so having a strong brand is extra, extra important, more so for entrepreneurs than for the corporate people who work for someone else. So, yeah. And what was the other question, Brian? I went on a rant here. (laughing)
Brian Kelly:
Like, the process of - I mean, especially now with Covid, if you're giving them advice and recommendations on, say, clothing, how does that work when you're not able to meet with them in person and give them advice...
Josee Brisebois:
Oh yeah....well Interesting, you ask that, because even before Covid started, I was doing most of my clients work on virtually. There are several reasons to that. There's so many advantages on working virtually. And it starts with first of all, the selection online is so much greater and you can find much better prices. So I like to call myself the queen of high end shopping on a budget. I love it. I get a kick out of getting the best prices for the best clothes. So there's many, many different reasons why virtually just works so much better. I mean, there is this component of being in person that, you know, yes, you don't have that, there's a pros and cons to everything. But I feel like the the pros win over the cons working virtually. And so and - you were asking how how does the process work? Well, it all starts with doing the personal branding process. What does your personal brand will look like visually? Like having a really clear, clear understanding of that to make sure that it's strong and, and clear and consistent, consistency is the key. If you don't have any consistency in business, it's very hard to be successful. In - on all levels. So, so we start with that. We start with the personal branding process. And then, and then I'm ready to, if I work one on one with people, I'm ready to just go shopping, for them, having a really good understanding of what what their brand looks like. And, or I now teach people how to do it for themselves. I teach people how to become their own style so that they can become empowered so they don't have to constantly rely on someone like me to look like a million bucks. So they learn how to create their own brand, they learn they learn how to better themselves, how to put outfits together. So they look stylish and really good. So, that's because that - did that enter your question?
Brian Kelly:
It helps a lot. I was curious, what, what do you find most, the most common areas that need attention?
Josee Brisebois:
The most common areas that need attention, I feel like, we're both in Southern California, people just dress too casually. They don't, they pick too casual fabrics or cuts, or you know, I see lots and lots of women wearing these little cardigans that have no shape. And it just gives a very unprofessional appearance. So, I feel like - and probably now during Covid it's probably like that all over the country, but the east coast is, is the best as far as that goes. They're more like, they understand more the importance of it. But yeah, I would say, like I just don't think that looking casual, because everyone else kind of looks casual, is OK because you are going to hurt your sales. You just are. I mean, the power of the first impression is not overrated. It really isn't.
Brian Kelly:
Totally. Like I would say, don't follow the herd. You know.
Josee Brisebois:
Right.
Brian Kelly:
And you're right. In California, it is so...Oh my gosh. I love....oh my. That you are spot on, Josee. There was a guy, who was incredibly successful and achieved a lot in a multi, multi multimillionaire who came to an event. I was one of the people working with my mentor. I was sharing the stage, teaching the students. This guy came as a guest speaker. I'm not going to name names, but he went up on stage wearing, like tattered jeans, flip flops and a t shirt. And, immediately, I've never met the guy, but I knew of his accolades. But my respect level and my view of him from an authority status definitely took a dip. Just because that was my first impression. And so you're absolutely right. And, you know, I'm not trying to say we should be judgmental and we shouldn't. But at the same time, you know, and I get it. There are others that are very successful that can pull that off. But these are people you have, that have a name already that everyone knows, right, in the industry. Then you can pull that....
Josee Brisebois:
Steve Jobs, Right? You're not Steve Jobs. Right?
Brian Kelly:
Exactly. Yeah. And that's a great example. And, so just be cognizant of that. And you know what? If you're doing a multiple day event, you show up looking dressed to the night, the first day, and then you can ease back after everyone gets to know you, build some rapport. We did that like on the third day of a three day seminar, we would really casual it up. We'd still have like a nice, a blazer, but we were just, like decent jeans instead of slacks or something, you know, just....
Josee Brisebois:
Right.
Brian Kelly:
We're comfortable - and people - it just worked better that way. But yeah, definitely the first impression I'm so, so in alignment with what you're saying. It's huge. And a lot of people don't care about it anymore. Don't think about it, I think.
Josee Brisebois:
My experience is that people just don't know, they don't realize how much it affects their business. They did not ever think about it or, you know, that they just don't know. A lot of the times that's what it is.
Brian Kelly:
And that's it. How you present yourself as how people are going.....they are judging you. And they're saying, well, if you're if, you're dressed really professionally, odds are you're going to treat me with professionalism. You can take care of me as a client. If you're dressed in flip flops in the shabby jeans, what kind of service am I going to get if I do business with you? I'm not so sure I want to take that step.
Josee Brisebois:
You put the finger on it. That's exactly it. It's like, it's like what are you telling your potential customers? Like, if you can't take care of yourself, are you going to be able to take care of me, like the way I expect to? That's exactly it. It's all subconscious. You know, like in the, in the, the caveman, they draw on the walls, like we are wired to like pretty things. We are wired to want the shiny object. So there's so many competition out there. You know, if, if the next person looks better and just seems to be more shiny, people are going to go there.
Brian Kelly:
And it doesn't stop with just branding, does it? I mean, what about every facet of your company. Like your communication. Your systems that are in place? Are they adequate or are they making mistakes? If you do a live show, is it high quality? Do you have nice graphics? Do you have a good flow? Do you have great guests? I teach this myself, and the reason I teach is because I've had I - I started the show, Josee, with no intention of making money from it, at all. It was just to further build my platform. To help get people like you out there to people that are watching so they can learn from you. And what I found is because I just, I'm built, I'm wired. I don't do anything unless it's the highest quality I can muster. And I've gotten so many comments as a result. This isn't the pat myself on the back. It's to help people to say that a higher quality, you can make something, anything you do in your business. It shows. People notice. I didn't know this was happening. And I started getting a lot of people hitting me up saying, Brian, can you show me how to do what you do? I'm like, wow. That's crazy. So my show became a lead magnet as as a result. It blew my mind. Yeah. You just, you just never know who's watching and what they're thinking. So why not always show up the best and brightest you possibly can. Put on cologne. Put on perfume. Whatever it takes for you. To - just take it to the farthest you can within the resources you have today. Do the best you can with what you have and then upgrade as you can.
Josee Brisebois:
Good advice.
Brian Kelly:
And you know what? Dress nicely. Present yourself. I'm sure she can help you with your overall brand, your image. In fact, if you, if you don't mind, can we share your website real quick so people just take a look at it and....
Josee Brisebois:
Year, sure.
Brian Kelly:
How - it's a beautiful website, that's why I want to share it.
Josee Brisebois:
Oh, thank you.
Josee Brisebois:
Eye candy. Look at that.
Josee Brisebois:
That's me in my acting days. I didn't change the picture. (laughing)
Brian Kelly:
I love it.
Josee Brisebois:
So it looks like this website is geared towards women, but I also work with men one on one. It's just that I was, as I was telling you, women needs a little more help. It's a little more complicated to look good for women.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. And you know, guys, I know quite a few guys that could use some help, too, so that's good to know. Yours truly included, I'm sure. But I love, I love the....
Josee Brisebois:
No, I, I think you look perfect. And what I like is that you say always put the same thing on. You have your brand going, this is you, this is how you show up. And it's perfectly fine. I think you look perfect, Brian.
Brian Kelly:
If you need someone to be your spokesperson or model, I'll, I'll gladly offer my....no, I'm just kidding.
Josee Brisebois:
I'll text you. (laughing)
Brian Kelly:
There you can see she's even going down to accessories and by the imagery they're dressed to manifest. Look at that. That's pretty awesome. Yeah. It is about feeling confident. And look at the...oops!....whoa Brian. Look at the quotes on there. And I'm looking at a website for those of you watching or listening to a podcast, "I feel renewed and confident.", "I feel empowered and beautiful.", "The morning struggle of what to wear is gone." Now, there's the other thing, right? Taking away the uncertainty. You're giving your clients certainty. And isn't that one of the most confident building things we can have, period?
Josee Brisebois:
Yeah. And it's all about that. It's all about really boosting the confidence. And, you know, when you were asking me earlier why - what gets you up in the morning? This is, this is what gets me up - like, I'm all about, like, boosting people's confidence, you know, to gain that confidence back from all the bullies they've encountered in their life. One of the biggest bullies, as you know, is our inner critics. So, dressing to feel better about ourselves...from my experience has been the most - the quickest way and the most, the most easy way to really feel more confident, and which has a huge impact.
Brian Kelly:
Absolutely. I can tell you how many times that - it's interesting, this works for guys, too, because when you, when you are wearing something and you look good, you know it. You know, when you look better than you normally do, I'll put it that way. (laughing) You know that you're, that you're, you're, you're different and you feel it. It's, you know, the whole time you're in that uniform, if you will, that feeling stays with you. And so what if you can have that feeling more often, all the time? What would that do for your business? What would that do for your relationships? This - you know what? Business is a relationship. It's all about relationships, whether it's personal or it's business. It's about establishing relationships. What that means is, human beings are involved. Right. And we're going to interact with human beings, whether it's on camera, on Zoom or in person, which is starting to open up, I'm so thankful. And so why not take every step you possibly can to give yourself a leg up for your business, for your personal life and reach out to someone like Josee. Just...
Josee Brisebois:
I know what you were talking about, like it's all about relationships, you know, I, I keep talking about business, but what I hear clients say is it, it brought more joy in my life, in my relationships. That's what they tell me. Because I feel so good about myself. So all of a sudden they feel more joyful in their relationship and it doesn't only affect business.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, guess what? When you feel good about yourself, you become more attractive to others. You just do. Who wants to be around a Negative Nelly who is always down in the dumps, with the woe is me. Oh look, it's gray and cloudy outside where someone else like, "Hey, look, it's grey and cloudy outside. We're going to get some rain. This is awesome." Like, who do you want to, who do you want to be with in those situations. Well if you're feeling good, you're more apt to say the more positive things and think the positive things. And you just show up differently. Your energy is higher and you're smiling more and you're excited. Like when someone like Josee is coming on your show, I got all giddy and I'm like, all right, we got to someone whose name is hard to pronounce is going to be fun. (laughing) And that's the other key, have fun, have fun. Always have fun. I have permission to have fun in your business. Just do it with respect for your clients, of course, but have fun. You know, have a laugh. Laughing is like a great thing, and, you know, when you're looking good, you're feeling good, then great things happen.
Josee Brisebois:
True.
Brian Kelly:
Phenomenal. Phenomenal.
Josee Brisebois:
True.
Josee Brisebois:
So you've been at this for some time now. Do you have any - can you recall anything - like in your business life where you would say, "Oops, I kind of messed up on that one." And like, you know, something that comes to mind and then more importantly...
Josee Brisebois:
Like, you mean with a client?
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. Whatever comes to mind with your business. And then what did you learn from that? Because that's usually - that's always the key. We all make mistakes. We're all humans, no matter how successful we are. But the key is how you react to that and what you learn from it and what you do as a result? So do you have anything like that that comes to mind?
Josee Brisebois:
I do. And I was devastated because I was like because normally I'm used to having clients like, "Oh, my gosh. Thank you. I feel so good. I feel like my sales increased." And like all that good stuff. And then this one was like, yeah, sorry. But it's kind of - I don't remember how she said it, but basically wasn't happy. And what did I learn with this? I learned during it I should have listened to my intuition because when I saw her come in, I'm like, she's not my exact ideal client. And the reason is because I focus on making people look, you know, elevated and successful and polished. She was looking to - more casual - like she just wasn't....yeah. And so, I think she looked one hundred times better after I was done with her. But clearly that, you know, she was not one hundred percent happy. So I just learned from that, stick to like making - working with people that just want to look, you know, like great and to represent their business, not the people that are just looking to look cute casually because it might not be the the right fit. And listen to your intuition, very importantly...like that to me is the most important.
Brian Kelly:
There's a great lesson there. And that is, you know, it's OK to not accept everyone as your client. And in fact, it's your duty not to, and to turn away, be OK with turning away people that don't fit your value system, that don't fit what you do for them. And there are great ways - and we all go through these steps that Jose....I've gone through these learning curves and what I come up with more in depth systems as a result, like my onboarding forms, I ask more direct questions and I read the answers and say, "Well, you're either a fit or you're not." And it's OK to say no. In fact, it's your responsibility if you need, if you're going to have a successful business to say no. If you're saying yes to everybody, there's a scarcity thing going on and that - a bad client can cost you more than you're going to earn from that. So...
Josee Brisebois:
I mean, thankfully, that did not happen to me, but I mean, they can't even go out and say bad things about it can hurt you.
Brian Kelly:
Reputation. Absolutely.
Josee Brisebois:
Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
On that end as well. So, yeah, it's very important. So it's almost it's, it's just as important as it is to hiring the right employee as it is to bring it on the right, the right client. That client can literally be like a cancer to your company. And just suck the life out of it. And if that happens, and you know, you've done all the up front work and you've vetted them and you still think they're a good fit, and then they later, partway down the line, don't - it's like, oh, this isn't working out - be OK to fire your client as well. You know, give them a partial or a full refund, whatever works for you with your model. But, move on. And get someone who wants and needs what you have. Rather than that....yeah.
Josee Brisebois:
Like me, I'm typically - like I would say, depending on the situation, if a client would get to be like that, I was, I would have no problem refunding and maybe like, bye bye. I don't, I don't want - I want positive, just positive people.
Brian Kelly:
And that that's key. And, yeah, you can do a lot of things. I now have a lot of forms for people that come to work with me, either on my team or his client. And, you know, I literally have automations set up that if they answer a certain way, I automatically disqualify them by sending them an email or text or both. And I don't have to worry about it. I let my system take care of sifting some of them. It just depends on some key answers. So, that takes time to figure out what those questions are. And the answer...
Josee Brisebois:
Yeah! I was curious, I was like, "How would they need to answer for it to be like, eh eh!" And not for anything.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. Well, some of them are simple where they would answer no when you're looking for a yes. And like I said, the system to make sure to kick them to the sorry, you're not a fit at the very end of it.
Josee Brisebois:
Ok.
Brian Kelly:
Stuff like that.
Josee Brisebois:
Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
Or you can find out real quick, like in your case, "Are you looking to up your fashion or you're looking to be more casual?" And if they say more casual then you could just say you're not a fit. I'm sorry.
Josee Brisebois:
Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
And then moving on. And that would be - for me, that would be a question I'd throw in there because of the experience you just had with that other person. Might be like from real experience, real life. Not just I don't - I try not to make stuff up because I don't want to put stuff in there that - I don't want to lead them down a thought pattern either, that I don't want them to go down. So there's that slippery slope. If you put that into the, "You know what? I actually think I want to go casual...I was going to go?" I think it mess things up. Not go perfectly. You've just got to tweak and test.
Josee Brisebois:
Yeah. Yeah. But that is the advice. I'm going to use it.
Brian Kelly:
And I - there's one thing I'm - you have a very visual business, right? So, what you do - I mean, you have walking billboards all over the place, right? Now of people who have taken your advice, who are out there speaking hopefully on stages again real soon or speaking on Zoom calls and and virtual summits. And it's amazing. So...it's just, it's visual and so I was curious what has been - this is one of my favorite questions to ask on the show. And when it comes to marketing your business, getting the word out, what have you found over the course of your business that has been your best, most effective form of marketing to date?
Josee Brisebois:
Ummmm...to date that's speaking, and having being part of a community to me has been like very, very helpful. But speaking has what has, has really helped me and I am actually looking into learning how to do like really effective joint ventures. That kind of thing. Because there are warmer leads when it comes from a joint venture. Right. So, yeah, I'm looking into doing this to, to - just expand the list and, yeah, get warmer leads. Warmer leads are much easier to, to say yes. To trust you and like you way quicker.
Brian Kelly:
Wow. And when you say community, what do you mean by - what kind of community? Like Facebook groups or...
Josee Brisebois:
No. Like I got into a community with a business coach, you know, where she has like a big community and having this network of people. Yeah, yeah.
Brian Kelly:
I'm actually - so I'm running the show and I am taking notes just like I recommended everyone do. So I never - I don't - I always practice what I preach. There - I was just trying to figure out how to say that. My gosh, speaking is supremely powerful. I know that personally. And what we're doing right now is, can be considered that. In fact, I was speaking on stage and I hit the reset button and decided to do more building on my business from the bottom up. And then I want to get back on stage, and I will. And then I started this show as kind of a Band-Aid fix for being...there's nothing like, there is no substitute for being on stage in front of a live, living, breathing people that are in the same room with you. This helps you. So I highly recommend, what she just said. First thing that out of her brain was speaking. That means that's important. And that means if you're not doing it right now and I'm speaking to the audience, then when would now be the right time to start doing that? And that would be appearing on podcasts. You don't have to even be on camera. Start out with podcasts as being a guest. Come on. Shows like this one, start your own live show. There's a big one. Yes. And it's been, it's been amazing. I highly recommend it. So speaking, it's huge. Networking. Getting in network groups. You get a coach. Oh, those are - you are spot on with that, Josee, because you're with like minded people. They all have skin in the game. They paid money. They're all serious about their business, but they also love helping other people. So you can get a lot going there and you can get joint ventures from that as well. And so...
Josee Brisebois:
Exactly. And, you know, having a business coach and like, teach how to do podcast, you could try and it on your own. But my gosh, you're wasting years and money. So it's so important to have someone that's been there, knows how to do it, knows the next steps, so that - yes, you're investing money, but in the end, you're saving. You're saving time. You're saving money. You - yeah.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, and that's that's a great point, because so many people just say, no matter what number you put to all, "That's too much." Like, too much for what? I mean, would you rather spend five years learning on your own? And those five years, by the way, you're going to be spending on learning this instead of building your business and bringing in more clients and being more creative and building it with more ideas. Or you can invest a small amount now compared to what it will cost you over those five years and get out of the chute running and start bringing in more clients quicker. I mean, the decision is yours, but that mentality of instantly they go to, "Oh." Whatever the price is going to be, it's going to just be too expensive, like, we've got to get out of our own way to get forward in our business. And that's limiting beliefs and hesitation due to fear and - I'm NLP certified so this stuff is right down my alley. I love this stuff because it works. Yeah, that's a mindset. Once again, it's phenomenal. So you're going to be doing this for quite some time. We all hope. So, if you are to look forward in time, if you had a crystal ball, what would you, what would you imagine yourself doing, say, in the next, let's go ten years from now. What is your vision of what you're doing, your company and your brand from ten years from now?
Josee Brisebois:
Wow. Ten years from now. Well, as I mentioned before, we started the show, or maybe they, based on the show, I can't remember, but I started a course where I'm teaching people how to do it for themselves, becoming their own stylist, pretty much. So in ten years from now I would love to see, like, you know, like hundreds of thousands of people that I've impacted to feel more confident about themselves. Like, I, in the ideal world that, that would be my dream, right. To have as many people like....you know, and people feel better about themselves and more confident that raises the vibration of the planet, right? That rises like the good vibes, so to speak. So I'd like to have a little, like a, little piece of the pie of, you know, that I could kind of feel like I helped in doing that.
Brian Kelly:
And here's the thing with entrepreneurs that serve others and help others. It's, I think it's our duty, all of us, to put the thoughts out there, to wish them the best. And what I mean by that is I, I wish that Josee makes millions and millions of dollars because I know that what will she do with a good chunk of that? She'll reinvest it into a business and scale it and help more people. Bring in others that have, and train them maybe in her skill sets that can - she can then replicate and maybe even back off and do more speaking engagements and have her people do the day to day calls and consultations and all that. It's just, that's - a lot of people go, "Oh, that rich person." They have these negative thoughts about people that have wealth. And it's like, well, if you have those thoughts about other people, how are you ever going to become wealthy yourself? It won't happen. The sooner you look at - and you can pick and choose. And so pick and choose people like Josee and say, "Oh gosh. I hope she makes..." Many fold over what she is making now. I hope she continues to exponentially grow her business so that more and more people can be positively impacted by her. And, I just, it's like, it's - we're all here together. We're in this together. All of us. You know. And will there be competition? Does she have competitors? Sure, but even they can work together. I work - I used to work together with other personal trainers. I'd say, you know what? I'm not a fit. But I know someone who is. I don't know, I don't try to make it a fit just to make a buck. It's like, I know a lot of guys, or gals, that can help you ...like, like with you just now. When we were talking - was that before? I forgot to. Was that, it was...(laughing) They could have been my competitors back when I was in, a personal trainer because that's when I met them. And it turned out they have an approach that works for people that I did not. And I sent people to them who could have been my clients.
Josee Brisebois:
Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
Absolutely.
Josee Brisebois:
Yeah. It's like...for me to. Like those stylist that might be a better fit, depending on what the person's looking for, right. Like that client that one of the more casual attires, you know, there is a stylist out there that like loves casual attire. So I think there's a person, a different person, professional for every taste. And I also feel like thinking in the lines of, "Oh, my gosh, there's competition.", is not the right frame of mind. You know, you need to look at it like I am unique. I have my own unique skill sets and the perfect clients are going to be attracted to that and the other ones will be attracted to the other people.
Brian Kelly:
At the bottom line is there are plenty to go around it just so it doesn't feel like it. But there are plenty to go around. And speaking of...
Josee Brisebois:
There's billions on the planet.
Brian Kelly:
That's right. Yeah. And, you know, there's really no boundaries anymore. We don't have to worry about what country you're from. We can help almost anybody from anywhere, depending on....what you did earlier is genius because you started with a model that was online that was virtual and it just turned out to be genius because now in Covid, everyone's scrambling to change their models. I know of a couple personally who turned their business upside down that are doing well, but they had to make that pivot that took time and effort. And so it's a great...I look at the positive. It's a great lesson. And it helped a lot of people learn how to work from anywhere they are with an Internet connection. And that's a beautiful, beautiful thing that provides more freedom for when we are free to move about the world once again. We are going, oh, my God, this is six thirty. How did that happen?
Josee Brisebois:
Well, you told me it would go fast.
Josee Brisebois:
Yeah, you know what? Time flies when you're having fun and goodness sakes. So we do have a couple of giveaways. Actually there's more than one. Because this wonderful, beautiful young lady here also has a gift for you. Would that be OK? Can we give that away first? Can we just bring that up and show it is and you can take it from here and show them how they can get that wonderful gift. I'll bring it up on the page. There it is.
Josee Brisebois:
Ok, so, yeah, that's the sign up page and, and the link is below. Let's see, I did a live training. It was a two hundred dollar training that I did to teach people how to create your personal brand image. And, umm...I'm giving you as a gift, a replay of that training. So a two hundred dollar value that you're getting free for Brian's audience. I told them...because I'm not typically - that's not what I give away - that's not like my gift. I have other ones that are more like a PDF and stuff. So that's a special one.
Brian Kelly:
All right. I love special. So for those that are listening on a podcast and don't have the ability to see, it's the website is a good long one. So get a pencil or a pen or type it in your notepad and it starts with wecanstyle.com, so wecanstyle, S-T-Y-L-E, dot com forward slash. And these are words separated by dashes or hyphen. So sign up personal brand workshop. So sign dash up dash personal dash brand dash workshop. wecanstyle.com/sign-up-personal-brand-workshop. And if you need to play that back again, go ahead. And I have it up on the screen for those of you watching live and for those of you listening on a podcast just showing that this is what it's going to look like when you get there, it's an opt in form and it says, Million Dollar Brand Workshop, as the title, create your million dollar personal brand image with great features. This again, two hundred dollars is what she charged her students that were in this live. And she's giving this to you as a free gift for just being watchers and viewers and listeners of this very show. So thank you for that, Josee. That is phenomenal, amazing, tremendous and stupendous, as we like to say. And I'll leave that up for a little while longer. And the other thing I wanted to do is, you know, I end the show and we're not quite there yet...so stick with us as you're watching live and listen...is I love to ask this one question at the end. And I found it to be quite profound. I ask the same question virtually every guest that I have. And I've found it to be really profound, really powerful. And in some ways it's even personal and it's really amazing. And before I do that, though, I had promised everyone at the beginning of the show that I would show them how they could win a five night stay at a five star resort of their choosing. It's a five night vacation stay compliments again of our good friends at the Big Insider Secrets. And so now you can if you need to take your gaze away from the screen for just a moment, because what we want you to do is bring out that cell phone, that cell phone of yours, and open up the messaging app, your text messaging app, because here is how you can enter to win. When you bring up your messaging app, where you would type in the name of the person you are going to text instead, put in this number, 314-665-1767. I encourage you to write this down as well. This will be good through the end of the evening, 314-665-1767. And then when you, add where you would type in the message, you know, where you would put an emoji, smiley faces and other things, don't put any emojis. Just put in two words that are separated also by a dash or a hyphen, if you prefer. And those two words are peak, P-E-A-K, dash vacation altogether, peak dash vacation. Go ahead and enter that, text that right away and then watch your phone because you will then be getting a follow up test, text message automatically just asking you for your email address, because that is how we announce the winner is by emailing the winner. And so to be officially entered, you need your email address as well. So go ahead and do that. And I hope to be able to announce you on Facebook as the winner very, very soon - as early as tomorrow morning. That will be a lot of fun. All right. Back to the woman of the hour. And you know who she is, right? Josee Brisebois. And I'm going to put her name right there so you can all see it. Isn't that a cool name? I love that name.
Josee Brisebois:
Oh, thank you. (laughing)
Brian Kelly:
(laughing) So, kind of built up this question, Josee.
Josee Brisebois:
You know, I'm like, "Oh, my gosh! What is this question?"
Brian Kelly:
Well, I want to, I want to put you more at ease, because the show isn't about stressing people out. It's about bringing incredible value, which you have done, by the way. And I appreciate you for doing that. What this - here's the thing. There is no such thing as a wrong answer. It does not exist. And it's funny because, well, not funny. It's just real that the exact opposite is true. The only correct answer is your answer. That is all that makes this personal. That's it. It's nothing more. We're not going to dig deep into your personal life. It's just, whatever answer you come up with is perfect because it is yours and it's coming from you. So, does that makes sense? And no matter how long it takes you to come up with the answer, that's fine to some. Get it like, "Bang!", others take seconds. I don't know if we've ever had a minute, but even if it takes a minute. That's OK. Don't - it doesn't matter. So whatever answer you come up with, in whatever time frame is absolutely perfect. With that, are you ready?
Josee Brisebois:
Yes.
Brian Kelly:
All right, here we go. I love this part. (laughing) Josee Brisebois. How do you define success?
Josee Brisebois:
Mm hmm. Happiness spent with loved ones. I think, that's it. Happy, happy, happy, or I guess you would define happiness, I guess...being joyful and spending, spending time with loved ones. Family, friends. Because as you said, relationships is what's the most important and love, so...to me it means to be content, in that, just, just to be, to be with my loved ones.
Brian Kelly:
Mhm. Absolutely love that. And the interesting thing is so many that I've asked this question - no two, yet I've asked has answered the exact same way, which I find very amazing. But I know you said the word love at least, and maybe four, but I heard at least three and so and that was the reason for the dramatic pause where I wouldn't let you go with just the few words you said, because a lot of people like to expand on that and ultimately do like you did. And it came back to love two more times.
Josee Brisebois:
Yes.
Brian Kelly:
And that's where you know for sure what success means to that individual, especially in your case when you come back to it two more times after the first - that's, that's yours. And that's beautiful. It's yours. So it's the right one. That's what it's the other thing I noticed. And it's the same true with me as well. If you ask me what I thought the definition of success was ten years ago, probably a whole different answer than what it is today. It's OK for it to change. A lot of people look at success through different lenses. Everyone looks at success through different lenses. I found out by asking that question on this show, it's amazing. It's phenomenal.
Josee Brisebois:
Well I - because if you look at it in a more linear way, I could have said like, oh, my gosh, like it's to have my million dollar mansion and, you know, but if you look deeper, that's not what makes people happy. It's not - well, it helps, but it's really not what makes people happy. What makes people happy is when they have the luxury and the freedom to spend quality time with their loved ones.
Brian Kelly:
And you said it...the one for me is liberation, freedom. You know, money is not it. It has not been any single person's answer on this show. One person started off by saying it only one, and then thought about it and that - but that is only because it enables me to be freer with my loved ones. And so the real reason was not money at all. It was an ingredient, but it wasn't the final product.
Josee Brisebois:
Right.
Josee Brisebois:
And it's amazing that - you know, when you find people that are successful, have achieved what they deem to be successful, but, you know, these are not want-trepreneurs that are coming on this show. They're grizzled veterans that have been through it and understand what it takes. And they are never all about money because they have reached a point where they - you know, their focus is on serving and being there for others. And when love is driving, you imagine, can you imagine everyone out there that - so this woman is driven by love. That is the definition of success. If you want to work with somebody...
Josee Brisebois:
I love that. I'm going to say that now. I'm driven by love.
Brian Kelly:
That's it. And you are. I mean, you made it very, very evident. And that's a great thing. Yes. Think...oh, oh, great friend of mine, Ross Slotter. Freedom. Boom. Yes.
Josee Brisebois:
Yes.
Brian Kelly:
He's a personal trainer we met at a speaking event. We co-spoke at an event. And what a professional. This guy's amazing. And he's, he's pivoted into another arena. He's going to be on the show coming up soon. And I love this guy is an amazing guy. Thanks for coming on, Ross. I appreciate it. But yeah, it's a freedom and love. You're - your - what drives you as love. So imagine working with somebody like Josee, who you now know is driven by love. Would that be OK? It would be awesome. You know, that she will have your best interests at heart because she's not about the material thing. She's about the heart things. And she will use that to give you the best result that she can possibly get. So be sure - what is the best way for folks to connect with you? Josee, before we call it an evening
Josee Brisebois:
Connect with me - you can email me. You can email me at Josee if you want to put the....well, my name...is below the.....oh yeah, you see it, [email protected].
Brian Kelly:
Ok. So you can see her name under her right now. Just replace Brisebois with the at sign and take the spaces out and you've got her email address.
Josee Brisebois:
Yeah. Exactly. Josee at we can style.
So it's for those of you listening as Josee was J-O-S-E-E and then at we can style dotcom. That's how you can get a hold of her and definitely do that. And remember, this is good for men too. And I know a lot of you guys out there that could use her help, and you know who you are. I'm talking to you right now. You know, go ahead. I can always improve to there's always room for improvement, no matter what...but...Josee I just want to say, once again, thank you so very much for coming on the show for spending your valuable time to help everyone who has watched, listened on the show, not only live, but even after the fact, because you have just given them a gift, many gifts of wisdom on how to be more successful in their business. And, I hope they all took notes. I did. I have nearly a page of my own. But is there any one last piece of advice? We'll close it with this. If you could think of one piece of advice that you would give a budding new, like, entrepreneur, just getting ready to really hit the road with this whole working for themselves idea - if you could think of just one, just one, you only get one, piece of advice that you would give them...can you imagine what that would be?
Josee Brisebois:
Ok. Go in your closet and start going through - like I'm going to ask you now, like start doing a clear - closet cleaning. And when you pick - when you start cleaning, take a piece of the, piece of garment, ask yourself, "Does this piece of garment bring me joy? Does it make me feel good and confident?" And if it doesn't, you need to consign or give, donate. Be honest with yourself, does it really make you feel confident and put yourself like if I was like on the stage or something, would I feel amazing in this?
Brian Kelly:
Oh, that's fantastic. I mean, I have t shirts I'm going to throw away now. Or give away. I mean, some of them I don't know if I'd want anyone else to have them because they might not be the greatest in shape. But that's great advice. And I want to just point out real quick before we call it an evening, how many, how many of you watching the show just noticed and saw and felt, maybe even listen to her, the love and passion, come through her voice immediately. She got dead serious, because she's serious about what she does and she wants to help you. And that came from a love space, even though she got kind of intense with her face. I thought, "Oh, my God! Look at the passion coming out of her right now." It's amazing. Now look at this beautiful smile. It's like, "Come on. Who doesn't want to work with her?"
Brian Kelly:
All right.
Josee Brisebois:
You make me smile Brian. I think you just like...firecracker.
Brian Kelly:
But, you bring it out. You bring it out. So remember, Josee at wecanstyle.com. So reach out to her or go to her website, wecanstyle.com and hit the contact link and - reach out to her and just have a conversation and say, "Hey I'm ready to clean up my closet. Here's some pictures. Tell me, tell me where to start. Let's do this." All right, so on behalf of the amazing Josee Brisebois, I am your host, Brian Kelly of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. We will be back again next week with another edition. Until then, so long everyone. Be blessed. And we'll see you later.
Josee Brisebois:
Thank you, Brian.
Brian Kelly:
Thank you for tuning in to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show podcast at www.TheMindBodyBusinessShow.com. My name is Brian Kelly.
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Josee Brisbois
I'm here to introduce Jo-zay Breeze-bwa (Josee Brisebois). Josee is a personal brand image expert and fashion stylist for entrepreneurs with a remarkable professional background. Since 2009, Josee has been creating personal brands and styling speakers, entrepreneurs, and professionals. Prior to opening her company, Josee was a television newscaster, and a Hollywood actress who starred in a feature film. In addition to her on-camera experience, she is an accomplished branding expert off-camera who served as a marketing and branding manager in the technology industry. A graduate of McGill University with a degree in business and marketing, Josee has been seen on ABC, NBC, CBS, and PBS. She applies more than 20 years of experience to help entrepreneurs get promoted; attract high level ideal clients and business opportunities, while creating an absolutely unforgettable personal brand.
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Narrator :
So, here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us, who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back. Who are dedicated, determined, and driven. How do we finally break through and win? That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly, and this is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show.
Brian Kelly:
Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Super excited for tonight's show. We have not just one, not two, not three, but four, four amazing guest experts who are joining me tonight right here on this very stage.
Brian Kelly:
They are waiting in the wings at this moment. So let's get busy. Shall we? The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, that is a show about what I call the three pillars of success, and that came about as a result of my study of only successful people in the last decade or so. And these patterns kept bubbling to the top and those patterns being mine, which is mindset set. Each and every successful person, to a person, had a very powerful and flexible mindset. So I learned that and said," I need to implement that". Then body: body is about literally taking care of yourself. Through nutrition and through exercise, exercising on a regular basis, and again that was another pattern of very successful people and in business. These successful people had mastered the skill-sets that were necessary to create, maintain, and grow a thriving business. They're wide and varied. It's like marketing, sales, team-building, systematizing. It goes on and on and on, leadership. There's no one person, in my humble opinion, that could master every single one of these. All you have to do is master just one, and I actually mentioned one of those. It was in that list. I don't know if anyone caught that, but if you master just one of those skill sets then you're good to go. That skill set is leadership. When you've mastered the skill set of leadership, you can then delegate those skills off to people who have those skill sets. See where I'm going? Good. That's what successful people do; the ones that I studied, anyway, over the course of about 10 years. That's what this show's about. It's a show for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs. I got four guests waiting, and I'm not going to wait any longer. So, I think we should just bring them on. What do you think? Let's do it.
Narrator :
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Brian Kelly:
And there they all are. These amazing, beautiful guests on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. How are you all doing? Altogether, too. That was phenomenal, I love that. So real quick. All of you, I hope you don't mind for just a moment. I want to do some housekeeping? I wanted to mention to everyone watching here live. If you stay with us till the end, you can win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. All compliments of our friends at The big insider secrets dotcom. You see them flying by on the bottom of the screen right now. It's an amazing, amazing vacation stay. Stay until the end, and you'll learn how you can enter to win that wonderful prize. We also have this. If you're struggling with putting on a live show, and it's overwhelming and you want a lot of the processes done for you while still enabling you to put on a high-quality show. And connect with great people like the ones we have tonight, and to grow your business all at the same time, then head on over to carpet bomb marketing dotcom. Carpet bomb marketing, saturate the marketplace with your message. One of the key components that is contained in the carpet bomb marketing courses, and this is one that you'll learn how to absolutely master, is the very service we use to stream our live shows right here on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Over the course of the past, now it's over nine years, we have tried many of these, "TV studio solutions" for live streaming. I'll tell you right now, Stream Yard is the best of the best. It combines supreme ease of use along with unmatched functionality. So, go ahead. You can start streaming high-quality, professional live shows for free. Yes, I said it. For free, with Stream Yard right now. Visit this website, and do this after the show over. Take notes while the show is going. So write this down R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. Fantastic. Now let's get to the real fun, and the fun is these amazing people. Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. How are you all doing tonight? Thank you for being on this amazing show. Yes. So, what I'd like to do is open it up. Let the folks get to know you just a little bit now. Ok, guys. We're talking sixty seconds or less. All right. Just lay it low here, but we'll just go and order. I usually go ladies first, but let's just go around the circle. It's easier for me who's running the show. So. That's what's important. Right? So, let's start with Dylan Shinholser. Go ahead. Take it away. Give us a little brief background about you, what you do, and your business.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. So like I said, my name is Dylan Shinhoser. I own a couple of different businesses. I'm owner of a company called, "Experience Events", which is event management. I'm also a director of business development at a virtual event, event ticketing, and virtual event platform called, "ViewStub". As well as a co-host of another show called, "Event Masters", where I just ramble all day, every day about how to produce better experiences. It's really all I know and love to do is events. That is my less than 60-second pitch about myself.
Brian Kelly:
That's a good one, too. I'll tell everybody I've spoken with you in person. We had a call some time ago, and this gentleman, Dylan, is made of integrity and great character. So, reach out to him if you need any assistance in any of the areas he talked about, or if you just want to say hi to a really great guy. Then get in contact with him, and at the end of the show, we'll go through that. Please. Somebody remind me if I forget how to contact each of you. Because that's very important to me. This is the reason I bring this show to the forefront. (It) is to bring people like you into the lives of those who may not know who you are yet, and even those that do, to experience even more of your brilliance, your experience, your knowledge, and your value. It's not about me. This is about you. Always, always. Every time. I have one guest, usually. I just feel like I'm in this big family right now. But let's keep moving. Julie Riley, amazing young woman. Take it away.
Julie Riley:
Yes. So, I am Julie Riley. I am the social media manager at StreamYard. The platform we're using right now. Prior to my time with StreamYard, I owned my own marketing agency. I've been in digital marketing since two thousand and seven. So the very, very early days of the start of it is when I jumped in(to) digital marketing, and I love just being able to help others succeed in their business.
Brian Kelly:
Fantastic, and I will also say that I have spoken with Julie in the past. Both through a typewritten chat form and verbally. I think it was Clubhouse first time, which was phenomenal. Yet another phenomenal person, incredible integrity, and character. And yes, you're going to notice there's a pattern about this with the remaining two. It's the same thing. Hopefully, we can get the last one to talk a little bit. That will be nice. I'm just having fun because we were having fun before the show started. The one smiling. The biggest down there with the green hood; not pointing anyone out or anything. Thank you, Julie, for coming on. Yes. These people, Julie and Christian specifically, I know Christians coming up here in second. They're non-stop. They don't stop working. It's evident because of the very software research we're using right now. It's of grand quality for a reason. It's because of people like Julian Christian who keep everything rolling smoothly on the back end. Dylan's there nodding his head emphatically because he gets it. It's a lot of work, and they're doing it masterfully and we appreciate you. All right. Enough of the favoritism here that felt like favoritism. Julie's our favorite. Timothy McNeely! My buddy, my friend from just a little north of where I reside. I believe. If I remember.
Timothy McNeely:
Central California, baby. Bakersfield. Yeah, my name is Tim McNeely. Today, so many dentists and driven entrepreneurs are just not sure if they're getting advice that really makes a difference for them. They may have a financial adviser who is giving them some advice on their investment portfolio, but they're not really sure that they're on the right track to really maximize their net worth outside of their business. That's what I help them do. Maximize your net worth so that you can keep taking care of the people you love, support the causes you care about, really make that difference in the world, and build an amazing life of significance. I love doing streaming because I get to talk to some of the best of the best out there and share the knowledge with the beautiful entrepreneurial community.
Brian Kelly:
I'll tell you something on a personal note as well. Literally, we talked earlier today, Tim and I, on a Zoom call. He just reached out to me and said, "let's catch up." I had him on the show some time ago as a single, solo guest, and he was phenomenal. We've just kind of maintained a relationship, a friendship ever since. He just wanted to reach out and say, "Hi" and "What's up? What do you want to talk about?" We just started talking about business and things. He gave me resources that will help me in my business, and hopefully, I reciprocated it somehow. I don't know if I did, but it is the people like Tim, like Julie, like Dylan, like Christian. That is the cloth that they are all cut from. They are here to help people. That's why I love entrepreneurs. I love all of you. I mean it. I do. I love you. You guys are amazing. I didn't even get a crack at a Christian on that one. Jeez, I mean... there we go. That's a little better, but I'm telling you, he's working on StreamYard our stuff right now as we're on the show. I mean, I'm.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm really trying not to, seriously.
Brian Kelly:
The founder Geige Vandentop. If you ever watch this, there's a message to you. Ease up on your people. Alright? Just having fun. Alright, Timothy, you're an amazing guy. Thank you for spending your valuable time and coming on here. As well as Dylan, Julie, and the ever so talkative one, Christian. I'm not going to attempt to say your last name. I'll let you take care of that one. Welcome to the show, Christian. Let's hear all about your brilliance.
Christian Karasiewicz:
Sure. Thanks a lot for having me. My name is Christian Kerasiewicz. I'm the content marketing manager at StreamYard. So, pretty much anything you see on our blog that we're going to soon be launching. I'm the mastermind behind that. So, I do that. In addition to that, I also host live stream reviews, a YouTube show. We also do on the StreamYard YouTube channel where we invite people on to talk about their live streams and help them work through some of their problems, some of their challenges that they might be having with getting community or building a show. Thanks a lot for having me. I appreciate it.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, my gosh. Thank you again, Christian, for your time and being here. I mean, he's literally building a blog while on a live show. I mean, that's a great thing. I'm not even kidding with this one. That is phenomenal. That is showing such dedication. So, it's more than that. It's passion. It's love. You know? What time is that where you are, Christian?
Christian Karasiewicz:
About 9 o'clock, or yeah... about 9 o'clock.
Brian Kelly:
(Nine o'clock) PM. Ladies and gentlemen, in case you're watching this recording. Yes. By the way, I'm going to be on twenty-five different platforms after this is over. So no pressure, but don't mess up. I'm just kidding. So, this is a phenomenal group of people, and I can't wait to dig in. Christian, just what you just said, what you do is right down the alley of what I was hoping to talk about tonight. It'll go organically, but I wanted to talk about... I mean, look at Julie, and look at Christian, and look at their images. Look at their video. It is gorgeous. Here, we'll start with a really gorgeous one first. Look at that. I mean. If there were nose hairs that weren't in place, we'd see them. That's phenomenal, and there is Julie. Wow. Very beautiful. Even more beautiful. I should just have her up like this all the time, and we can just talk in the background. Because, you know, maybe more people would come on. So, you guys have phenomenal camera setups, and here's one thing I always like to preach to those who are getting into the live streaming game. Does it take money? Yes, it does. It takes resources. It takes cameras, microphones, (a) computer, internet, good internet, fast internet, lighting, doesn't have to be fancy. What I always say though, is, do the best you can with the resources you currently have. OK, I wanted to start it off that way because what we're about to talk about with Julie and Christian is their cameras. They are top of the line. We're not talking a one-hundred or two-hundred-dollar webcam here. I like to let ladies go first. So, Julie, do you have a story when you first turned on your new camera versus when you had the webcam and what that looked like and felt like.
Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh, I turned that camera on, and it was immediately noticeable (the difference). I actually did a live on my personal Facebook page where I logged myself in as a second user into StreamYard. I had my Logitech camera that I had been using up as a camera and then had my new one. So, I could do back and forth and show everybody the difference between the two. What an upgrade that was. The Logitech served me great for years. It didn't stop me from going live, but that upgrade was immediately like, "oh, I can never go back down now".
Brian Kelly:
So, that so that is one thing. Let's say you're on the road, and I can imagine at some point both you and Christian, maybe, you'll be sent on the road to maybe support conventions and things that are on the road. Now, you want to stream live, what are you going to do then?
Julie Riley:
Well, you know, the great thing about the Sony is (that) it's a small camera. Tripods, portable ones, are small. I can take it with me. If all else fails, and I'm either on my phone or I'm on my little webcam or even my built in webcam, it's not going to stop me from going live. Is it going to be exactly what I want? No, but more than likely I'll have the Sony with me.
Brian Kelly:
Thank you for saying that. I mean, that spoke such volumes. I hope people are taking notes that are watching. Definitely take notes on this. Because, look, the show must go on. That's what I say, and this show tonight is the result of a guest who unfortunately was ill and could not make it on. So, I scrambled and found these four wonderful people to say, "I'll come on and do a panel with you." And that's it. The show must go on, and I'm going to either do it with people or I'll do it solo. It doesn't matter. Consistency is key, and we can talk more about that, too. I love how you're just talking about, Julie. Where, look, I don't care where I'm at. If I've got something and it's my time to go live, and I don't have my gear. I'm doing it.
Julie Riley:
Right.
Brian Kelly:
I love that commitment. So, thank you for that. For everyone listening, that's important. Yes, quality is important. Like I said, do the best you can with what resources you currently have. That includes, wherever you are. You may have a DSL camera that Julie paid five-hundred thousand dollars for. Oh, sorry, it wasnt that much.
Julie Riley:
Thank God it wasnt that much!
Brian Kelly:
What was the model of that again?
Julie Riley:
A6000.
Brian Kelly:
What does it run about?
Julie Riley:
It was about seven hundred.
Brian Kelly:
OK, not too bad. A little bit less than five-hundred thousand. Not much but yeah.
Julie Riley:
Yeah.
It's a phenomenal thing, and I love that that's your attitude toward commitment. I'll tell you. You have a similar attitude...anytime I go and ask for support through the back side of StreamYard community. I mean, like through messaging. When I say the backside, that's sounded weird. When I ask for support, you're always there. I mean, you don't sleep, and I appreciate that. So, keep not sleeping for everybody's sake. Christian, you do the same. So, Christian, what about you? When you made that initial change from whatever camera you had before to this unbelievably clear one year look you're working with right now. What did that feel like the moment you saw a difference?
Christian Karasiewicz:
So, it's very interesting actually. So, this is actually what I was using before. I've been using this for quite a number of years. This is a Logitech Brio. It does do 4K. I invested in this one and eventually came out, and the quality was fantastic. The only thing was, though. I wanted to scale. So this was great for traveling, for example. This is what I took around with me. Super portable. It's got the ability to put it on a tripod. Fantastic, but it did not allow me to scale, so I had to always take up another USB port and all that sort of thing. When I moved to the Sony, the Sony looked very good. I will say the one thing you have to do, though, is you need to go through the settings. There are a few adjustments you want to change. That's what's going to actually enhance your picture quality of it. It's a fantastic camera. It's a Sony 6400. Then, really, the other side to it is also the lens. So I'm using a Sigma lens. So, that I think is the real big difference. I mean you have the kit lenses it comes with. I did make the investment in the the additional lens, which I think that's actually what's contributing to why it looks so good. I will say from a quality standpoint, again, start with what you have. You know, the key things for live streaming. Audio is going to be your most important part. Then also, if you, for example, are using one of these webcams, make sure you have enough light. These things look great with a lot of light. When you don't have a lot of light, you're going to see pixelation. You're going to see distortion and things like that. So, turn it back to you.
Brian Kelly:
Especially with light, if you turn on the green screen feature, you really need to have good lighting then. That's the biggest time. I'm so glad to be liberated from that. Even though I loved it. This is actually a natural well behind me. I painted the entire studio. I actually occupy my daughter's former bedroom. I've been here for four or five years now, and I finally got rid of the cartoon drawings and the yellow paint. I'm a real boy now. I have a real studio. This is awesome.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That looks really good by the way. I was very surprised (by) your background because that looks like one of the standard backgrounds people would normally bring up during a live stream. One that has, you know, the gradient going around the outside. So, whoever did the painting on that fantastic job.
Brian Kelly:
Why, thank you very much. My wife did most of the work to be honest, but I feel like that helps with that. Yeah.
Timothy McNeely:
If you want that comparison between cameras. Right. Christine was just talking about the Logitech Brio. That's what I'm on, and you can see the massive quality difference between Kristen and Julie versus the webcam. So. Right. (A) huge step up.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, we'll point that out in glowing detail right now.
Christian Karasiewicz:
You're using a green screen. Right?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
Your sound, Christian, is smooth. I mean, you have a great radio voice. Having that microphone, I think will pivot to that too. Dylan, what are your thoughts on cameras? Yours looks actually really decent right now? You're on (a) green screen, correct?
Dylan Shinholser:
Correct. Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
It looks really clean. You've done a good job with all the lighting. It's almost like you've done this before, and you know what you're doing.
Dylan Shinholser:
I try. Yeah. So, I actually when I first started doing it, I started listening back on my phone. When this whole pandemic hit, I was using the one inside your laptop and realized very quickly (that) I'm on calls all day, live streaming shows and stuff. I was like, "I got to set my game up." So, I haven't made that leap yet to the DSLR, but I will. I'm on a Logitech, one of the models. I won't even lie because I'm not that tech-savvy. It was expensive for Logitech, so I bought it. I was like, "it's got to work." So, yeah. So, that's where I'm at. I agree heavily. I think it comes down to, because we get asked it and I know you guys get asked, it comes down to what you can afford at the moment. Then always trying to push the limits of production value. Right? My background was a wall. It was just like random yellow wall, and now I have a giant green screen wallpaper now. So, now, I can be wherever I want which is a concert. That's where I want to be, and that's where I'm going to be.
Brian Kelly:
You're the one on the stage, brother. Not the audience.
Dylan Shinholser:
No, I'm actually the guy behind the stage. I never want to be this. It's actually weird for me to be in front of people. I'm the guy behind the stage telling people to get on the stage.
Brian Kelly:
Pushing them forward. Well, you do a good job, Dylan. I wouldn't know any different. Maybe your calling is to step out from behind and be on front more often.
Dylan Shinholser:
We will see. Twenty twenty-one has a lot of stuff, and I've got a long way to go. I got super bored in twenty-twenty so I might as well talk.
Brian Kelly:
I've gotten to know you a little bit over time, and you've got a great personality. I think you need to shine in front of more people. That's my humble opinion.
Dylan Shinholser:
I appreciate that.
In the front, not behind the scenes. It's okay to be behind the scenes on occasion, but someone like you with your personality and your integrity, your character...get out there, buddy. It's a disservice if we don't get to see you. Let me put it that way.
That's what a mentor of mine said. He was like, "dude, you're actually being selfish by not talking more and getting it out." Because like I said at the beginning, I only want to help more people create better experiences and events. Make them flow better and make them more money as humanly possible. At the end of the day, I just want to travel the world with cool people and do cool things. I've learned a lot, and a lot of people need some of that experience. So, I got a stern talking to by one of my mentors. He was like, "dude..." I was like, "alright, it's alright. I promise." I started live streaming then had to get better cameras, better lights going on. It's crazy up here in my little command center of all these different lights, webcams, and monitors. Everything you need to do to pull these shows off.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I love it. Christian, go ahead.
Christian Karasiewicz:
So, I want to throw something in there real quick. We talked about various types of cameras. If you're just getting started, use that built-in laptop, the webcam. So then you can take it up a notch. You can go to the Logitech. The C922. That's about, I think, a 60 to 70 dollar webcam. So, don't overpay by the way. It's about 60 to 70 dollars. Get it from Logitec, probably. If you find an astronomical price on Amazon, move up to like the Brio, for example. If your budget allows it, that's about one hundred fifty dollar camera. Then move up to a DSLR. For example, Julie's got that, the Sony 6000. I would also say if you happen to have a smartphone, this can be used as a webcam. Essentially, if you think about it, this is a thousand dollar camera. Because you paid a thousand dollars for this device of sorts, and this will give you some phenomenal picture quality. If you already have a smartphone and you don't have to have the latest iPhone, it could be pretty much any iPhone and Android phone. You just need an app such as one called,"Camo." There's one called,"Erion." So, there are lots of apps out there. Don't think like, "hey, I have to now go drop a bunch of money." Look at the phones you have lying around. Those are going to be great ways to fix your picture quality.
Julie Riley:
I've been going live since 2015, and I only had this camera last year.
Brian Kelly:
That's it. You keep reinvesting. I had a good friend of mine who were business partners. He said, I'll never forget it,"sales drive service". When you're making money, you're able to invest. You're able to up your game, and I love that. So many great points. You can just set a phone on a tripod and your camera will look better than many people's webcams. For sure. One of the things that I would recommend, this isn't just a plug StreamYard, is to get at least get the free plan. Do they need any more than the free plan to be part of the community, Julie?
Julie Riley:
No. They can come to join the community even if they're just getting started into streaming. We do like everybody to have the free plan so they have an understanding, but we'll still let you in. Agree to the rules. That's the big thing. Yeah, come join the StreamYard community. It's really a "stream yard" community.
Brian Kelly:
It's a very valuable place because questions like what Christian just addressed are often asked (What do I need?). I'm just starting. I'm a newbie. I see that so much in there. What can you do to help with a camera or microphone or computer? You can go there if you have those questions and ask, and the community will fill in the blanks wonderfully well because they're a great bunch of people. Just like Tim down there who's gotten pushed to the side for a while. So, Tim, is this your first camera that you've been using for live streaming so far? Did you have one before it?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah, right. I started with just an HD one. Right. Logitech and then jumped up to the Brio. Been happy with that so far. But, you know, it's interesting how the game keeps growing again. That's the thing, right? Just get started! Just do this. I started with just using zoom and recording those for my interviews, and then I realized (that) I need a better platform. I need a way to kind of do that live production. Now I'm doing Stream Yard and got intros. Just get started with whatever you've got and kind of build that proof of concept. You know, I recently just upgraded my lights because I bought the cheapest lights I could at first. I just wanted to do something, and done is better than not done a lot of times.
Brian Kelly:
I totally agree with everything you just said and like what Christian was saying. If you're going to put money into anything, make it the audio side of things first when you upgrade. I was fortunate. I started over nine years ago streaming live. This is a DSLR. Not a DSLR. Good grief, XLR microphone. It's old school. It's not even USB. So I plug it into a mixer board, and from there into my computer. I've used it for years. It's been just amazing. I've never had to do anything with my sound as a result. For you, there are great USB alternatives now. Oh my gosh, there are so many out there. Someone like Christian could probably point you in the right way. Someone like the StreamYard community could push you in the right way and tell you,"these are the ones". I have a connection with the guy who is a sound expert. I've never heard of this before. He has a studio that does 4D sound. I don't even know what that means. Four dementional?
Christian Karasiewicz:
Sweet.
I don't know what that means, audibly. He was telling me about speakers in the ceiling. I'm like, holy moly,. You don't need that obviously for a talk show like this, but think about the possibilities and have fun with it. The bottom line is, when you go on and go live. Enjoy yourself. I'm trying to do that a little bit with these fine people tonight. Thankfully, they're still here with me. I haven't upset them too great, especially Christian. I keep picking on him. Poor guy. I appreciate you all, and it's okay to have fun on your show. Would you guys agree with that? Is it okay to have a little bit of fun?
Julie Riley:
One hundred percent. If you're having fun, your audience is going to be having fun with you.
If you're not having fun... I don't believe in doing anything that I don't find fun. It's a life motto of mine. If I don't want to do it, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Like you said, Julie. If you're not having fun with it, then how in the world do you expect the viewers to want to have fun or engage or interact? It starts with you.
Brian Kelly:
Absolutely, absolutely. One of the things I wanted to pivot to is something I'm deeply interested in because the product that came up earlier when I did the quick ads spot. I like to solve the pain points that people are having in their live streaming experiences. I'm curious. I'll bet, Julie and Christian, you guys have seen and heard a lot about that. I actually had a team member of mine from my company put a poll up in the form of a meme, a graphic. What's the right word? I am having trouble with words these days. It's an infograph. That's it. Simple. I was a little bit shocked by the result, but I was just curious what you guys think. What are the biggest pain points you're seeing? (Either) that you're having individually. Tim, if you have that as well. Dylan as well. Dylan, you probably hear about a bunch of it as well. What are the pain points you are seeing come back over and over and over again? I'm having a horrible time trying to find another guest on my show if they're interview style, or the tech is just blowing my mind. Even though StreamYard is so simple. I'm having trouble with x, y, z. Let's just go around the horn. Dylan, if you don't mind, I put you on the spot. Can you think of any of those pain points that keep coming up over and over again?
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. The biggest thing I see is they underestimate what it does take. I totally agree. Why I promote StreamYard to our clients and everyone I possibly can is because of the ease of use. People go into it and think shows are just like setting up the webcam, and they can be. Setting up the webcam and just talking. Right? There's a lot of back end stuff to this. These shows and I'm learning that as doing my own now. I'm like, holy cow, I'm about to hire fifteen people because this is absurd. But, yeah. I think that's the biggest thing that I see is underestimating it, but also at the same time, they overcomplicate it. They have to think (that) they have to have all these bells and whistles and seventeen thousand cameras and two million dollar microphones. It goes back to our first point of "just do it". It doesn't need to be overcomplicated, but understand going into it, there is some work that takes and understand that you do have to respect what it takes to put these on. At the same time, don't overcomplicate it. It's funny how people work. They overestimate or underestimate it, but then heavily overcomplicate it at the same time. I think that's the biggest one I see.
Brian Kelly:
I'm so glad you brought that up. I've said this so many times, people don't realize what goes on behind the scenes before the show even comes on live for that episode. The amount of time and effort. If you want to do a live show that's of quality and represent yourself and your brand in a way that you want it to be represented professionally. It takes a good amount of work for every single show. That's why I automated nearly every process (that) I use now. It took time to get there, but you can use a team. You can get a team. Like you said, Dylan, to also help out. For me, it's all about quality, and more time is spent before the show by far than the show itself. After the show is over, another good deal of time is spent. That is in the minor edits, the repurposing, the marketing, and everything else that goes beyond. The live show is this tiny window of time, and it's the fun is part of it by the way. When you have everything automated, the rest is not "not fun" because you're not doing it. It's all automated, but definitely great. Thank you for that. Julie, what has been some of the big p.. sorry to wake you up there. What have been some of the big pain points? You are wide awake. I just starttled you. You've seen over and over, I bet you've seen a bunch of them.
Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh. So many, you know, especially because I'm approving all of the comments that are coming into the group. I think one of the huge ones is that the hesitation of people who believe that they have to have everything perfect. That they have to have all of the backdrops, the overlays, the banners, the super expensive microphone, and the super expensive camera. That they have it. The room behind them is messy. They haven't thought about turning to just a blank wall because they're like, "well, then I don't have a fancy studio set up." They get to this point where they're trying to create perfection, and perfection is a fairy tale. It doesn't exist. There is no such thing as perfection. There is, again, where Dylan said the overcomplicating it. They've got to really just slow down and go, "what do I need to get this process going?" What is the minimum to make it happen? From there, then I can then build on it, and build on it each week. Go, "okay, I got live. I got the first one out. I got the jitters out. I hate the way I sound." When I had my agency, I would tell my clients. They'd be like, "I can't stand the way I sound." I'm like, nobody likes the way (that) they sound. There's actually, and I say this all the time, there's a term for it that is a term for not liking the sound of your own voice. I tell people, you have to get over that fear. They're like,"I don't look good on camera, I don't know how to be on camera." The other thing I tell people is to set up a fake Facebook group with nobody else in it but you. Go live in there a bunch of times and just get those jitters out. Get that feeling of pressing the button and going live. Then invite your husband in, your sister, your mother, or whoever. Somebody so that you're talking to somebody. From there, build up each time. As we said with the cameras, again, you can you can slowly build. You can slowly add in the overlays. You can slowly add in the backgrounds.
Brian Kelly:
My goodness! I absolutely love it. I have my own Facebook group that I use just for that. Nothing more. I go in there, and I test things for StreamYard and other things in there. I go live in there because there's no substitute for going live. We've got more buttons to click, and things kind of change their arrangement just a little bit in the window. If you practiced it 20 times without going live, then you go live you're going to go, "what the heck just happened?" I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. That was perfect. Perfect advice. I love that. We've got a comment coming in or two or three. Yeah. Kelly, crucial. Kruschel. Sorry if I got that wrong.
Dylan Shinholser:
Kelly Kruschel. It's Kruschel. She said she's on my team. She's a friend. Hey, we've got a supporter.
Brian Kelly:
Love it. Love it. Then Fran Jesse, I know her. I'm getting ready to make my first video essentially input. Yeah. Reach out, Fran. We're friends. I will give you assistance in any way you want because this is the greatest this is the greatest avenue for media on the planet, in my humble opinion, for so many reasons. One is people get to see you. I love clubhouse. It's also phenomenal in different ways, but people get to see you. They get to interact with you. They can engage with you, and they get to see your essence. It doesn't cost you, the studio owner, studio time. If you do this in the old days when you have to go to a television studio and you want to do a show, it would cost you thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars just to use the studio. Let alone get the media time to put it up on a television station. We're living in wonderful times. It's the greatest time to be alive, in my humble opinion. I'm a tech geek. I'm not young anymore. I'm fifty six, but I can't wait for the rest of what my life has to hold. Yes. You're welcome, Fran. Any time. Wonderful. Wonderful. Alright. Where were we? I got all messed up and loving myself there. We're going to have fun. I'm being real. This is like... I don't know. I'm the most relaxed (that) I've been in a long time with everything that went on today. It was one of those weird, everything-going crazy days. I feel like I'm at home with you guys. That's why.
Dylan Shinholser:
It's been one of those years.
Brian Kelly:
Thank God that last one is over.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, yeah. Sure.
Brian Kelly:
So, okay. Pain point. Let's go back around one more. Tim, what do you have?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah. When I first started doing this, my whole goal was to get out there and to talk to the different experts in the different areas of the challenges that my my clients face. I started off as an interview show and just using Zoom to record the video. Then all of a sudden I had the video. Now I had to put an intro in. I had to put an exit in. I had to extract the audio so I could do the podcast. My team members and myself were spinning our wheels. Just trying to really kind of create a workflow around the creation of this content so we could get the message out and help people with their challenges. For me, all of a sudden, the revelation was (that) I can do this live. I can have people type in (and) ask comments as I'm doing the show. Not only that, from start to finish, I can produce the whole thing going live. Right? You go live. You can play an intro now. You can throw in little commercial breaks. You can throw in the outro, and then it's done. Download the audio. You throw it up, and now you've got your podcast. You don't have to upload video to YouTube and Facebook and LinkedIn. It's done for you now, automatically. So really my biggest pain point was just the production side of things and putting everything together so that I could keep talking to people and doing the fun part. Right? I don't want to get caught up in all the details of making this. I want to talk to people, learn, and share that knowledge. Really, a lot of the pain point, just using StreamYard has really been absolved because it's a turn-key easy to use platform.
Brian Kelly:
Amen to all of that brother. Here's the key for everyone that's ever going to do a live show or has done one. The most important part is that you show up and you be the talent. That means you need to be dedicated mentally toward what the task is at hand. If I have too many things going on, like production-wise, which I used to when I didn't automate things. That's in the back of my mind. Did I dot every "i"? Did I cross every "t"? What's going to screw up on this show? Versus showing up fully for my guest. Being there for them. Getting out of myself and my own business and being present for the other person, that's what I'm about. Lifting up the other people, that's what my show's about. It's important to me.
Timothy McNeely:
Actually, if I can touch on that talent piece, Brian? I think he brought something up so important for everyone listening to this. If you're doing any kind of a show where you're interviewing people, chances are (that) the person you're talking to (is) a little bit uncomfortable. Your job, as the talent, is to spend some time before the show really crafting what it's going to look like. What direction are you going to go in? You want to make that person you're talking to look like a star. The more you can rehearse with them and put them at ease, you're going to end up with a much, much better show. Because you've taken a little bit of time to make sure that (the) other person is going to shine just as bright as you do. So, take that time to work with your guests beforehand through interview guides, through little questionnaires. So that you can help prep them, to keep them on a thread, and you can really help them deliver their message. Most people are not trained professional speakers. They just aren't. I've hired some of the best speaking coaches to help me develop messages, stay on topic, and learn how to tell stories. People don't invest time, energy, and effort to do that. You can help them do that through a briefing before you start your live with them.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. That's why I was saying before, I do a thirty-minute preshow. All of us were on here for 30 minutes getting to know each other, making sure all the tech was good, doing some checkout. You were talking about people being nervous and stuff. That's why I'm riding Christian so hard with all these jokes and stuff because it broke his nervousness. You can see his sweating. I am so kidding. This guy's raw. He's a rock. He's awesome. He's a pro. I love this guy, man. I always pick on the quiet ones. I don't know why that is. Christian, man, you're bringing massive value. All kidding aside, you're very experienced. You're matched for what you do. You've said already so many amazing things. What about you, brother?
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'd say this. I think a couple of the pain points. I think one is people want to ask, "how do I get better at my live stream?" I think (that) the first thing is practice. To Julie's point, I think you mentioned having overlays, backgrounds, and all this other stuff. Look at it like this. You want to show your audience as well while you're helping them. You're doing this with them. You have everything at the same time, and you're trying to make everything perfect. Your audience is going to be like, "I'm not going to stick around this person because they've done such a good job already. I won't ever get to that point". They start having that self-doubt. The key thing is going to be practice. You don't have to have every single one of the overlays. Maybe start with the the intro or the thumbnail, and maybe you have an outro for example. (Those are) the first two things you do. As you build the show, then you can add segment graphics. You can add videos. So, you can scale it, but you don't have to have so much at one time because then it's just too overwhelming. That's point number one. Pain point number two is that people, for some reason, think that they're going to immediately be able to monetize their live stream. I say pain point because everybody's like, "oh, I bought all that equipment." Now, you've got to figure out how to pay for all that equipment, you know? If you're struggling already with your business and growing it, then you're not going to immediately monetize live stream. You have to have an audience. You know, you have to build that community. When you go live, they're tuning in because (of) the social platforms. They want to see that you're bringing viewers, they want to see engagement. So, point number two is monetizing your live stream. There are ways to do that, but don't always set out with monetization being number one. It could take a couple of years to monetize. So, get started. Build on it, then make those investments as your business is growing. Yes, mic drop. Yes.
Dylan Shinholser:
Do you have that mic? Just a mic drop? Because I might need to get one.
Brian Kelly:
It's actually super.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, super real.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That's pretty cool, actually.
Julie Riley:
I like that.
Brian Kelly:
It's actually part of a magic trick that you put in a paper bag. It's a long story, but I found one more affordable that would not break my keyboard because that's what it landed on. You didn't hear it. Oh, my gosh. Golden nuggets there, as usual, from Christian who I give a lot of hard time to. I'm going to stop because you're amazing dude, and I don't want to get mad at me. I want you to be my friend. So many great things. So, you said two years. I was like, wow. I was watching an interview. How many of you have heard of Lewis Howes? Former professional football player and turned incredible entrepreneur. He's all over the place. He was being interviewed, and the guy interviewing him asked him a question. He said, "so, Lewis, if someone came to you, and they were talking about the fact they wanted to start a podcast. Now, we're talking just the audio version. That's what a podcast really is for everyone that may not know it's audio-only. Not video, even though they're going that way." He said, "well, here's what I'd tell them. First, you got to actually be consistent. Whenever you decide to do it, do it at that same day and that same time every week or multiple times a week. Whatever that happens to be. Number two, more importantly. You must commit yourself to doing that for at least, the magic number, two years. If they are not willing to do that, I would tell them, don't even get started." We didn't talk about monetization. None of that was discussed during this Q&A. That was telling. Who was I talking about this earlier with earlier today? It's not necessarily about monetizing. It's about building your platform, and I wanted to add to that. It took me in two years. I was just hitting that moment in time of my live show. That's when the momentum started. He was spot on, and so are you, Christian, about the two years. Then using a certain strategy (that) I use, I continually ask for referrals in a certain way. I eventually landed the one and only Les Brown. Some of you know who that is. Some of you don't. I've noticed some don't and Im like,"what rock are you living under?" He's amazing, and he's been on my show. Because of that, the two-year commitment is my point. Not talking about monetization. Then what I found after doing this for two years and striving for excellence all the time in every facet, I'm talking about the preshow communication with upcoming guests and the setup and the prep that they all go through and my system makes sure they do. The show itself and then after the show, all the post-production, everything that goes into it. Once you have that, people notice and my show, without my intending it to be, became an incredible, powerful lead magnet for my business. Focus, just as Christian was stating so properly, does definitely, positively impact your business. If you do it right. You do it high quality, and again, within reason within the resources you have. Go ahead, Christian.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I was going to say. That's another point that people look at, and they want to generate revenue off of it. That revenue may not be actual money upfront. It may end up being (help) (to) drive more leads to my website. It's not necessarily driving more people to my social channels. You're following is... It's OK. That's not going to necessarily grow your business because you had five more followers on Instagram or something like that. It's potentially getting them back to your website, which can be an opportunity for them to schedule a coaching call with you, maybe buy a product from you, learn from you for example. You're not going to get every single person to become a customer, but you're going to be able to use it to generate more leads.
Brian Kelly:
Totally, totally true.
Dylan Shinholser:
That's why I do it.
Brian Kelly:
You see on the top of this screen "streaming live on" and then five. We're doing it to eight right now or seven right now. "Listen-on" down below. On the bottom, there's actually twenty five of those like us could fit them all. Roku now was on Fire TV. Look, you're not making money from those, but here's what happened. How many of you have heard of Kevin Harrington? Shark Tank? Original Shark Tank? He has a partner named, "Seth Green", and they do a podcast together. They've been doing it for years now. They have five-hundred plus episodes. We got introduced, Seth and I. I met Kevin. We shared the stage once. I'm not name-dropping, but yes, I am. It was awesome, and it was fun. Seth reached out. We were connected by someone else. We were introduced, and Seth did his own homework. He came back, we literally talked on Zoom, and he says, "wow, I did some research. I looked you up and, my God, you're everywhere." I just wanted to say, "yeah, that's right." So, you want to get out there. That's why, shameless plug, I call it, "carpet bomb marketing". You saturate with everything you've got within reason. Right? If you can automate it, it can be near or completely free. So just do it. Why not add it to your arsenal? So, it works. Just be consistent to a minimum of two years. Get in touch with people like Julie, Christian, Tim, and Dylan. You might make that even quicker than two years. I'll direct you to the shortcuts that many of us did by trial and error.
Timothy McNeely:
Touching on the monetization piece, a good friend of mine runs one of the top coaching consultancies out there. Right. Very, very successful. Runs a great podcast, great show. I ask him one day. I said, "have you need any money doing your podcast?" He thought for a second. He says, "naw, I've actually lost money doing it. The relationships that I've made...I've made millions off (of) that." If you approach it from that standpoint... There's different goals, but I always approach, you know, what's the end result? What are you looking for out of your show? Why are you doing it? That's how you can measure the success of it. Is it helping you achieve whatever goals you set for yourself?
Brian Kelly:
Totally agree. It's very similar. Isn't it? To writing a book? I'm holding up another namedrop. Yes, it's very similar to writing your own book. Because a lot of people want to write a book and make a living off of the sales of the book. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, most of the time it just doesn't happen that way. If anyone comes up to you and you're talking to them... During the course of conversation, maybe you ask them what they've been up to? Or, hey, I've authored a book. The moment they say that, in your eyes, do they not lift up in an influence in your mind? Right then and there? Instantly. It builds authority. That's exactly what this live show, and live shows like it, are doing. When you're giving evidence of it by spitting it out to all of these platforms, there's no way people can't find you and know that you're serious. You know, it's showing that you have a commitment level. It's showing that you have a quality level of professionalism. It's not about the show itself. It's like, well, if I do business with that person, or will I... Will I want to do business that person? If they're professional. Yes. If they put on a shoddy show, they might give me shoddy service. If I do business with them. Does that make sense? People want to (be) representing yourself in the best. Do it the best you can, but do it. Please, don't delay. Don't try to be perfect. You heard everybody talk. Go ahead, Dylan. You had something?
Dylan Shinholser:
Well, yeah. There's indirect ways to make money with shows, live streams, and of course direct (ways). Right. Direct is selling sponsorships, ad-space, all that good stuff. The indirect monetization is so much more powerful. When I do shows or when I hop on shows or anything, it's literally just to build a top-down awareness of myself. I just want people to know what Dylan Shinholser is. Then that way, because I do multiple things, I'm never trying to sell one product at any given time. I'm trying to sell myself, and what it does is it gives me that outlet to do it. Then if you're hosting a show. Right? This maybe goes into some other topics around how to market and things like that. It's a powerful relationship tool because when you can open your platform to other people that you're looking to connect with. I'm in the business of working with influencers and throwing their events. Well, the best way to connect was get them on my show. It gave me a reason to reach out that wasn't pitchy or sales. It was more or less. Hey, man, I just want to give you an outlet, because I think what you talk about is cool. Tell my people about it. After the show, I was like, "hey, man, what are you doing next Tuesday? I need a speaker." Or "hey, man. I have some ideas (that) I want to pitch you or (some) things. They're more receptive. So, I always do shows and things not about the direct money I get, but the indirect thing. It's the indirect impact that I get from relationships, or people sharing my stuff out and people go, oh man, he sounds semi-intelligent unless they're watching this. Then then they'll go, okay, great. Let me go over to this platform that he runs with this business that he does or whatever because he sounded halfway intelligent on that show. Right? So, I think the indirect monetization is what most people don't... They don't get that the instant gratification of like that five thousand dollars sponsorship check. When I forgo that and go on to bring on much more money on the backend with the people I connect with, in the top influence that I get.
Brian Kelly:
The magic word there was "relationship".
Dylan Shinholser:
Relationships all day, every day. That's all I do- is build relationships, and how can I do it? Do more shows like this. Can I get it out? You're on like forty-two different podcast or outlets here, right? Every one of those. Every time you put a show on it, you're building a relationship with someone on that platform. Even if it's just you talking, and they're listening. You're building that relationship. Everything (that) I do, is built on: how can I develop relationships? Live streams is just an amazing way to do so.
Brian Kelly:
Posting them is one thing. Right? That's a great thing. What I learned through a podcasting expert friend of mine is the maybe not as equally important, but possibly greater importance, is getting on other people's shows. That includes audio podcasts only. He explained how his business skyrocketed when he did what he called, "podcast guest marathons". He would have someone get him booked in his team. He would carve out three days and just say get as many as you can for me. He'd do that. Then when they ask him about how to get in contact with him... This is the gold right here... It's not go to my Facebook page and look up my name and message me. He would tell them to go to his podcast website and from there to subscribe. Now he's building a following. It's genius. It's so genius. I just want to impart that. The cool thing, though, is when you're hosting a high-quality live show that opens the door for you to be a guest on many more.
Dylan Shinholser:
Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Being a guest is what goes back to the authority building. Right? If I can build my authority, I build my influence. If I do have something to sell... If I'm trying to build my brand or whatever it is or I'm just trying to get to as many people as possible to talk about events with them... That authority I call it, "authority hacking", being able to get them on your show. That'll get your show in front of their audience, and then going on to other shows helps you develop your authority. It's like writing a book. I was I'm a guest on this show, this show, this show. It's like writing a book. Your authority starts to become a little bit more when you're leveraging their influence. Right? When you're a guest on the show, if that show has a following, you becoming a guest on that show gives you authority because now you have the validation of the host that everyone is following and love. So, I can authority hack by getting on other people's shows.
Brian Kelly:
It leverges. You have a whole new tribe watching and interacting with you as well. I mean, this is one of the most powerful things people can use. If they just get out of that rut of trying to find a way to make money with it directly, that's when they'll see the real value come through. It's about building relationships. It's long-term. Not short, quick kill. I got to make a commission and run. It's build a relationship. Establish it. If you go into this with the mindset of it not being for directly making money, I personally think you have greater success. The long-term plays always work better than the short-term. Short-term works can work, but they're temporary. The long-term is a lot more permanent and lasting. Just think of all the wonderful bread crumbs you're leaving throughout the world. Through all the venues and platforms we've been talking about. In speaking terms, if you're on stage, that's what we call a "stage swap". Where you would be a guest on someone else's stage in return for them saying, "okay, but I'm going to do the opposite." We'll have you on our as well. The same thing with podcasts and live video. It works really great. Just make sure they're a fit.
Dylan Shinholser:
They've got to fit. (It's) got to makes sense.
Brian Kelly:
Both ways. Yeah.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I want to add something real quick to that. If you are consistently going live, so it's great to be consistent, go live on a regular basis, but also think about the long game. It's a couple of years, for example. Also, don't be afraid to be making changes and adjustments as things are moving along. It's not about substituting equipment. It's about looking at your process. For example, you mentioned Brian, that you have automation on some of the things. Think of smarter ways to take bigger jumps ahead. If I have to send someone an email, and I'm like, "hey, do you want to be on my show?" Then I have to deal with the whole back and forth. Well, okay. Yeah. What time? Then I have to send everything back. There are tools out there like Calendly, Harmonizely. You can send a calendar link to somebody and they can only book a certain slot for example and vice versa. This takes out the guesswork out of having to do all that back and forth. That's a way to work smarter because now you want to book people for your show. You send them one link. The person then doesn't have to send you a message back, and you can even use it to collect feedback for your show questions. There's not a lot of back-and-forth and downtime.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, absolutely. I do that as well, and it's a godsend. I could not do what I'm doing. I would not do what I'm doing without the automation part of it. I have an onboarding form. You guys all... Most, not all of you went through it, but that was a mini version. Julie, you went through the big version. I then changed it right after I saw that. Like you said, make adjustments. That's what I did. I'm constantly doing that. Improving. I have a document automatically generated in Google Docs with your bio. The answer you had to why you think you would bring value to the show. Also, all the questions you chose to be asked for the show. Some of you didn't see that. So everything's done. The Q&A part used to take hours and hours doing manually. Now I just give them thirty-eight questions. Choose ten, and we're good. You tick the box. You choose what I'm going to ask you. (I) just made it a system, and it has worked beautifully. I don't even use the ten questions hardly. I use maybe the first three. Then we go organically like we've been doing tonight. My God, it's six twenty-nine! Are you kidding me? I'm having too much fun. Real quick. I know everyone that came on in the beginning. You heard this thing about a prize. We're going to do that real quick, and we'll come back and wrap it up. For those of you watching, remember in the beginning I said, "take notes and don't go clicking away and stuff like that"? Now I think Dylan, Julie, Tim, and Christian will also give you permission to do what I'm saying, and that is take out your phone. Take your gaze away from us for just a moment, but you'll still have to look back. Yes, yes. You can do this too. Please, do. What I want you to do....
Dylan Shinholser:
I need a vacation.
This is how you can enter to win a five-night stay at a five-star luxury resort of your choosing. Here's what you do. Take out your message app on your phone. Fire that up- your text message app. Where you would type in the name of the person normally that you're going to text. Instead, put in this number: three, one, four, six, six five-they're all doing it behind the scenes- one, seven, six, seven. I love this. Three, one, four, six, six, five, one, seven, six, seven. If you're watching this and you're not a guest, go ahead and write this down because I gonna take the screen down. I want you to get it. This will be open until the end of the evening. Where you actually put in the message... Where you might put emojis, those kinds of things, not emojis, just two words separated by a dash or a hyphen. Those words are peak (P-E-A-K) dash Vacation (V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N). All together. No spaces. Peak vacation. Send it off, then monitor your phone. You're going to get an automated response back asking you for your email address, and that will then officially enter you into the contest. Compliments of The Big Insider Secrets. Our buddies, Jason Nash, the owner. Dear friend of mine who lets us give this away every single week. Every show, actually. We do more than one a week now on average. So go ahead, get that entered. I can't wait to see who's going to win that. You're going to be asked later, you don't have to if you're the winner, to provide your Facebook information. Just your profile so we can say congrats and give you a high-five online and get others to come watch the show. To be honest, that's another strategy. We're just rolling back the curtain. That's why we do it this way. You can offer incentives like that. My friend has offered that to anyone who is my friend. If you're not my friend, you don't get it. If you're on as part of the panel here, they're all my friends. Christian may differ on that opinion, but I think he's my friend.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm your friend. Yes.
Brian Kelly:
Ok, good. I picked on you so hard. I apologize, but you're just you're a fun guy. I appreciate you for putting up with it. I definitely do stuff like that. Implement it and announce it in the beginning. That helps retention. I'm just pulling back the curtain for everybody. You can do different things like that. Having multiple people, I noticed, is also a little better than just one every single time. So, mix it up now and then. Alright. I know we're a little bit over, but I want to give you each another chance for a final parting tip. Anything you want on live streaming. It could be hardware, software, how you smile, what bling you wear, don't wear, your makeup. I'm wearing some, by the way, just so the guys know. Yeah, I don't know what they call it. It's not like guy up.. guy-liner, but it's like makeup. I know. That was bad.
Dylan Shinholser:
I haven't heard of that one.
Brian Kelly:
I just did that. I'm not a young fart anymore. Anyway. So, Dylan, we'll do the same thing. Go around the horn. What would be one final quick tip, or parting words of advice, you can give our wonderful viewing and listening audience?
Dylan Shinholser:
Keep it simple stupid. Don't overcomplicate it. There's things that you need to do and standards you need to meet. At the end of the day, keep it simple stupid will allow you to not overcomplicated it (and) get overwhelmed. Once you get overwhelmed, it's a wash. I would just say as a life advice, event advice, live stream advice, just keep it simple stupid and keep it moving.
Brian Kelly:
Real quick, I got to interject on that. Just so people know that that comes from an acronym K.I.S.S. So we're not calling everybody stupid, for one.
Dylan Shinholser:
Well...
Brian Kelly:
That was great. I have a friend who is Sicilian in nature, and he did this from the stage. He talked about it, and he brought up the whole thing. We're talking about doing it without complicating it. He goes, "It's like K.I.S.S. Who knows what K.I.S.S means?" Someone raised their hands. They said, "keep it simple, stupid". He goes,"Oh, no, no. It's keep it simple Sicilian." He lighten the load of the stupid part. I thought that was cool. Sorry, Julie, what is your parting tip?
Julie Riley:
You know, you're going to have to get started at some point. In order to do that, you're going to have to get over your fear. Go practice. Get those done, but also go watch and find other people that you resonate with their live shows. Start to take pieces from each of those. Now, obviously, you cannot go copy their live show and recreate it. You can pull little things from multiple different people's live shows that you like and that resonate with you. If you're comfortable and things are resonating with you, you're going to exude that comfort and that confidence out to the rest of the world.
Brian Kelly:
I love it. I love it. Alright. The man, the myth, the legend, Timothy J. McNeely. What is your final parting word of advice?
Timothy McNeely:
I'm going to close with a story. The purpose of this story is to illustrate the power of doing a show. July 20th, 1969, the first man walked on the moon. He left his footprints up there. On the moon, there's no wind. There's no rain. There's no weather, and those footprints today in twenty twenty-one look exactly like they did in nineteen sixty-nine. They're going to be exactly the same a million years from now. You too. You leave footprints on the hearts and the minds of everyone that you come in contact with. In streaming and having a platform, that's your opportunity to leave your footprints and to have an impact on people. Get clear about what your message is. What's the impact you want to have? If you do that, all of the other puzzle pieces are going to fall in place for you.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, baby. Okay, I've got to do it. I've got to do it. That was amazing.
Dylan Shinholser:
You have to get one of the little lower third animation gifts that are possible here on StreamYard. It's just a mic drop every time someone does one.
Brian Kelly:
Not nearly as much fun though, bro.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That's true. Fair. Very fair. I'll give it to you. I've got to get me one of those little squishy microphones.
Brian Kelly:
A little sound effect like I just broke my desk or something. That would be good. Alright, Christian, you've had a long time to think about it now. No pressure, but this better be a good one. I'm kidding. What do you have?
Christian Karasiewicz:
Let's see. The best piece of advice, I think, would be don't have gas or gear acquisition syndrome. You're going to watch people doing their live streams, and they're going to go and be like, "hey, I got to get that mic because this person upgraded." Oh, they got a new webcam. Remember? If you develop a plan, the whole thing is work the plan.. work the system. It's great (that) somebody else got some equipment, but it doesn't mean that you need to go out and get that yourself as well. Remember, work your plan. When you get to the certain points, maybe set that as a milestone. If I get to a certain number of viewers, for example, or a certain number of subscribers on a channel, then I might need to upgrade something. Don't be buying stuff just because someone else is doing so.
Brian Kelly:
Sales drive service. I love it. You guys are amazing. Thank you so much for coming on. Everyone who watched live. Thank you for coming on. Those of you that watched on the recording. Thank you for spending your valuable time with us, and those listening on the podcast. The same goes for you. Definitely. I hope you took a lot of notes because these are experts in the field. They are giving their value, their heart, their experience. They only charged me two-hundred thousand dollars for it. It's really been a deal. I'm kidding. They charged me nothing. You got incredible value from these amazing, amazing professionals. I can't thank you all enough. I appreciate you Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. Thank you from the bottom of my heart with all seriousness. I know we had some fun tonight. Thank you, Christian, so much for letting me pick on you so hard. You've been a great guy. I look forward to getting to know each and every one of you at a deeper level. If you're open to that after tonight. Appreciate you all. On behalf of these amazing people, that's it. We're out. My name is Brian Kelly. I'm the host of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Until next time we will see you. Be blessed. So long for now.
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