Special Guest Expert - Karen Duncum

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Narrator:
So, here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward only to fall two steps back, work dedicated, determined, and driven? How do we finally break through and win? That is The MIND BODY BUSINESS SHOW.

Brian Kelly:
Hello everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS SHOW. We have another amazing guest expert who is coming on very, very soon. I cannot wait to share her with you because she is brilliant and she is going to bring the value. You do not want to miss this show. Stay on until the end. There's multiple reasons to do that. I'll tell you that in just a moment. The MIND BODY BUSINESS SHOW is a show for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs and what I found in my now fifty-six years on this planet, well, the last 10 or so, I literally started studying just successful people and I wanted to find out what it was about them that made them more successful than maybe me. What I found over that time were three patterns continually developed and bubbled to the top. You might be able to guess what those three patterns are? Yes, they're on either side of me. It is the name of this very show, The MIND BODY BUSINESS SHOW. It's about mind, and every person that I studied that was supremely successful had mastered the skill-sets of increasing and having an incredibly powerful and flexible mindset. Body. They literally took care of their body nutritionally and exercise on a regular basis. Then business. Business is so multi-multifaceted, they mastered skill sets in so many different areas. There's marketing, there's sales, team building, systematizing, leadership. I could go on and on and on. They did this because they knew that they had to master all these skill-sets in order to have a thriving business, to build one, and then to help it to grow. The good news is that none of us have to master all of those that I just mentioned, all those skill-sets being in the business realm. All you really need to do is master one of them. One of them is, well, I mentioned it was in that list that I just talked about. That skill-set is the one of leadership. Once you have mastered leadership. The skill of being a great leader or a good leader. I'd say a great leader. Yeah. Once you've done that, now, you can bring in those who have the skill-sets you have yet to master and delegate those tasks to them. Here's the thing. To master any skill-set takes quite some time. Doesn't it? I don't know if any single human being can master every skill-set that goes into needing to be mastered for a successful and thriving business. So, that's the good news. So concentrate on leadership, and you will get farther, faster. So The MIND BODY BUSINESS SHOW is what we're here for, to help you, to give you the value, to give you actually actionable steps. So take notes. Take out that notepad and paper, and you'll want to definitely pay attention. Speaking of paper. Another wonderful attribute of the highly successful people that I met and study is that they are all, to a person, voracious readers. Readers of books. With that, I like to segway into a little segment I affectionately call, "bookmarks".

Narrator:
Bookmarks. Born to read. Bookmarks. Ready, steady, read. Bookmarks, brought to you by Reach Your Peak Library dot com.

Brian Kelly:
Yes. There you see, Reach Your Peak Library dot com. Real quick note for everyone watching, and also for those of you listening on the podcast as a recording, is take out a piece of paper and a pen and take notes as I mentioned just a moment ago. Because you're going to be learning about resources, I'm going to venture a guess quite a few. Especially with Karen Duncum, who's coming on very, very soon. She's going to be giving us so many wonderful things that we can go out and actually take action on and improve our lives and our business. So I would love for you to take notes, and I would hate for you to miss a single nugget that Karen is about to drop because you are clicking and watching other websites, looking at other resources. Just stay with us and write notes. Take down the resources like Reach Your Peak Library dot com. Write it down. Then visit it after the show because the magic happens in the room. All right. Off my soapbox. Enough about that. Reach your peak library. That is a website that I had developed. I'm not kidding when I say this, with you in mind. The reason is because I did not read very much, if any at all, until I was about forty-six, forty-seven years old. Then I learned the sheer magnitude and power of reading. Not just any book but the right books. I began consuming books voraciously. This is a list of every book, not every book I've ever read, but every book that's had profound impact on me. Either in my business life or personal life or both. So I decided to put this together for those that might be looking for that next great read. That way, you can at least know that the book has been vetted by at least one other successful person. The odds of you just throwing darts at a random dartboard looking for that next book are greatly diminished. You'll find some really, really great reads in here. So take advantage of this. It's a free resource. Click the button. I think it takes you to Amazon, and you can make your purchase of your book there. Get reading. Whatever form you like. If it's audible, I love audible. I love listening to books; I found that was my mode of ingesting information. They have Kindle hard, hard copy. It's Amazon. They've got it all. So go ahead and enjoy that resource. I hope you find as much value out of those books as I have. Speaking of value. I'm done. I'm done introing. It's time to bring-on the one and only Karen Duncan. Are you ready? Let's bring her on. She's coming.

Narrator:
It's time for the guest expert spotlight. Savvy, skillful, professional, adept, trained, big league, qualified.

Brian Kelly:
And there she is, ladies and gentlemen. The one. The only. Karen Duncum!

Karen Duncum:
Hello, everyone.

Brian Kelly:
It is so amazing to have you on the show. You went through a little scare, and now you're here. I'm so just grateful that you have come back completely to all of us so you can share more of your brilliance and your value, your insight, your experience, everything about you. I can't wait. This is going to be so much fun.

Karen Duncum:
Thank you, Brian.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, absolutely. Before we get to jump right in, a little bit of housekeeping is an order. So all of you watching live. This is actually really great stuff. If you're watching live right now. Stay with us to the end, because at the end of the show, I'm going to show you how you can win a five-night stay at a five-star luxury resort. This is all compliments of the "BigInsiderSecrets.com". You see the big red logo up there right above Karen's shoulder. That is a wonderful friend of mine who owns that company. His name is Jason Nast. They allow us to give away a free vacation stay every single show. It's phenomenal. He himself has been on three of them to basically test it to ensure it was legit. I'll tell you. He came back raving about it. He said, "you don't get whisked away into a timeshare pitch, and you don't lose half of your trip by doing that". It's a legitimate vacation stay. So I can't wait to see who wins that. Then a little birdie told me that this amazing woman right next to me has something for you as well. We'll get to that near the end of the show, too. So stay with us and enjoy the ride. Speaking of the ride, we've got a couple more announcements to make here and we'll get right with it. If you're struggling with putting a live show together and it's overwhelming and you want a lot of the processes done for you while still enabling you to put on a high-quality show and connect with great people like Karen and grow your business all at the same time, then head on over to CarpetBombMarketing.com. Carpet bomb marketing, saturate the marketplace with your message. One of the key components that is contained in the carpet bomb marketing course is one that you'll absolutely learn how to master is the very service we use to stream our live shows right here on The MIND BODY BUSINESS SHOW. Now, over the course of, I would say over nine years, we have tried many, many of these "television studio solutions and software for live streaming". I'll tell you that StreamYard is the best of the best. It combines supreme ease of use. Along with unmatched functionality. So start streaming high-quality, professional-looking live shows for free with StreamYard right now. Don't do it now, but you can do it very soon, right after the show. And so. Write that website down that you see on the screen if you're watching the video. If you're listening to podcasts, it is our RYP.IM/streamlive. All together. RYP.IM/streamlive. Now let's get to the woman of the hour. Shall we? Let's get this thing moving because this show is about her. It's not about me. It's not about all this other stuff. I'm going to now give her the honor and respect that she deserves by formally introducing this amazing, amazing young lady. Karen Duncan, former CEO of an international marketing and advertising firm, psychotherapist, and Bloomberg BusinessWeek columnist. She is a phenomenal writer. I've read some of her posts, has for decades been an executive coach to leaders of Fortune 500 companies, entrepreneurs, and business owners. She is passionate about helping leaders learn what they can do to live vibrantly in all aspects and all seasons of their life. She considers it a privilege to extend her professional coaching work through founding live... or live! Sorry, vibrantly, Live Vibrantly with great passion. Karen created the groundbreaking Live Vibrantly program to teach and coach the eight vital components. I hope we learn about them all tonight, facilitating wealth in business and in life. Many comment that her coaching works so well because of her authenticity, I know that one is true, passion and wisdom in addition to her inside out, individual centered approach. All right. With that. Karen is on the show at last. Finally, I'm so excited, Karen.

Karen Duncum:
Thank you, Brian.

Brian Kelly:
Are you coming to us... I'm just going to guess, is it around the Santa Barbara area of California.

Karen Duncum:
Yes. It's actually 43 minutes into the wine country outside of Santa Barbara.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, my goodness. We'll have to talk later. Oh, yes. My wife and I, we love Santa Barbara. We visited there several times. Have that salt cave. We went in there. That was phenomenal. But we also have gone north, ventured farther into that red grape territory. We like the red grape. The wine territory.

Karen Duncum:
We'll come visit me, and I'll show you around.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, invitation accepted. Here we go. All right. So, Karen, when I introduce folks, and yours is no exception, your bio's exceptional... It tells everyone about your depth and breadth of experience, of your knowledge, of what makes you tick, who you enjoy serving. What I like to do is go just a little deeper. If I may? Don't worry, it's not very painful. It's not painful at all. What I like to do is find out more about what is going on in that beautiful brain of yours that is enabling you to, gosh, overcome what you just overcame as one. Most importantly, all this time that you've been so successful, what has kept you going? Every single day you get up, you know there are challenges coming. You know it. That's the life of an entrepreneur. What is it for you, personally, when you get up in the morning... What are the things that are going on inside that beautiful brain of yours that keep you going, motivated, and impacting lives day in and day out?

Karen Duncum:
Well. First of all, I haven't always been this way. So, could I start with a little story?

Brian Kelly:
Please!

Karen Duncum:
So when this actually took form, it was actually ten or twelve years ago. It was pretty much the bottom of my life. It was like the thing that brings you to your knees. Let me just say, as I tell you this story, that I'm a firm believer that struggle is what gives us the strength to move forward. I feel very sorry for people who have had it too easy in life. Whether it be financially or whatever it is. They just don't have the muscle that struggle can give us. So when I talk about the struggle, I'm going to tell you about. I'm not going "oh, poor me". Because it helped me tremendously to go through it. So around two thousand and eight-time when the, you know, what happened with homeowners in America, I lost my home. I had to tell my fiance goodbye, that we had to break our engagement. I had very, very little income because two thousand and eight also put the corporate business for outside consultants way down. So I was sort of at the bottom, and I was feeling sorry for myself. I sort of had a victim mentality, and I was driving along one day feeling sad and depressed, actually. I saw sitting on the curb a man, a young man that obviously was a gardener's helper. Sitting on the curb about four-thirty, waiting for a ride. I thought as I passed him, "well at least I'm not a gardener's helper, and at least I have a car to drive". All of a sudden I felt better, and I thought, "oh. If I would just start thinking about the good of every single situation, I'll feel better." So the motivation was selfish. I wanted to feel better. I didn't want to be sad and depressed. So I started just doing that. Every time I started feeling bad, I think, "okay, what could be good here? What's one good part of this circumstance or situation?" That began the living vibrantly thought pattern. So then that gave me the opportunity to use my past experiences and my work with clients and companies to put together the things that I knew were the most important: to help people be successful in life and in business. I don't think I answered your question, though, did I?

Brian Kelly:
I think it came through pretty loud and clear that you're taking... your basically, you were given a lemon, or so it seemed, and you made lemonade from it. You learn from that, and you're using that to catapult your daily life every single day to say, "Look at the bright side, it could be a lot worse."

Karen Duncum:
And it's not Pollyanna. It's not ignoring the things you need to pay attention to. It's just paying attention to them going, "Where's the good here? Let me focus on the good part."

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, like a dear friend of mine and mentor always said is, "Focus on what you want." You know, things will happen and we're going to react negatively toward them. If it's a negative thing. We are human beings. We're not robots. We have emotions. The key is to get past that emotion as quickly and as healthily as you can and move on to what you really want in life and let your attitude control your circumstances versus the other way around.

Karen Duncum:
Uh huh. Yep.

Brian Kelly:
We have some amazing people dropping in. Andy LaRusso, thank you so much. She says looking forward to this talk, Karen and Brian. Oh, and look who is here. None other than Jason Nast, himself. That is the founder of the Big Insider Secrets.

Karen Duncum:
I know him. I saw his show on your show.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, yes. Yes. He's one of my best friends in the world. He's actually been in this very studio that I'm coming to you from. We spent quite a few hours here building businesses together. He was remarking about when I talked about the gift that's coming up, that we're giving away, his vacation stay. He said, "best gift ever". That's awesome. Any excuse to go on vacation. That's absolutely true. Oh, I think he knows about the general area you're from. He said, "Slough".

Karen Duncum:
Oh, no. It's a little bit south of that. It's warmer than Slough. It's the Santa Ynez Valley area.

Brian Kelly:
Oh my gosh. That is exactly where, I got to say it, my wife and I, we went on a... it was like a wine tour. It was a bus. A little, I guess they call them, "party busses". Oh, the greatest time.

Karen Duncum:
We've got to take you on a private tour.

Brian Kelly:
Pardon? Say that one more time.

Karen Duncum:
I'll take you on a private tour. Not on a bus.

Brian Kelly:
There we go. It was a hoot, and we just went from winery to winery. It was just a lot of fun. Even before people started drinking, they were already happy because we knew what we were going to be doing.

Karen Duncum:
And it's beautiful, isn't it?

Brian Kelly:
It's gorgeous. Yes. Yes. It's just a great experience. So yes. Santa Ynez Valley, that's exactly where these wineries were that we were visiting. We just had a blast. We definitely want to come back. Jason, a very astute man, says, "obstacles are what you see when you're not focused on your goals." Absolutely. Thank you, Jason. This guy is in route cross-country. He's probably stopped for the evening. I hope he's resting well. He's moving. He's uprooting and moving across the country. I can't wait till he gets settled in to fly out and spend some time with him because he's a brother from another mother. I love this guy. So, Karen, thank you for all. You just taught a lot of people, whether they knew it or not, a lot of great things. That was how to take circumstances that would normally floor a lot of people and turn them around. Just by doing what we call in N.L.P circles, neurolinguistic programming, reframing. Basically saying, well, yeah, that sucked. And look. I have a house. I have a car. I have, you know, just be grateful. I have an attitude of gratefulness, and it's amazing. Like you said, you just started getting better.

Karen Duncum:
Right? It's taking reframing to the next level because it's really science. It's really if you are constantly reframing, you are growing new neural pathways. Once you've grown new neural pathways, the ones that weren't serving you shrivel up. You now go down a new pathway.

Brian Kelly:
I love that. I liken it to having, you know, when you have those that negativity going on your brain. I liken that to having weeds in the garden... the garden of your beautiful brain. What you're talking about is a way to remove those weeds so that the beautiful flowers can flourish even more brightly and not get choked out.

Karen Duncum:
Yeah. And the way you pull the weeds is you plant flowers.

Brian Kelly:
There you go. Choke out the weeds with the flowers. There we go. I love it. So you're up in northern, well north of me, here in southern California still. I guess. I don't even know if the southern...

Karen Duncum:
We're part of South-Central.

Brian Kelly:
OK, that sounds good. You know, I talk about the three pillars: mind, body, and business. So we talked a little bit about mind. So if we can touch on body for just a moment. You've just gone through a physical scare, and you can say as little or as much as you want about that. It's fine either way. I imagine that, to you, that staying in physical shape is somewhat important to keep going forward every single day and keep your energy level up.

Karen Duncum:
I have a story about that, too. We have eight pillars. You have three pillars. We have eight pillars, but they're all in the areas that you're talking about. And so unfortunately or fortunately, the number one most important of all the eight pillars is exercise. The reason I say, unfortunately, I don't like exercise. I was never an athlete. I didn't want to exercise, but when I discovered what goes on chemically when you do exercise and what goes on chemically when you don't... it just makes me, every day when I wake up, one of the first things I think is.. Okay. When am I going to exercise today and which of my activities am I going to do? It's so critically.... I look you've got the eight pillars!

Brian Kelly:
We're ready for anything here on The MIND BODY BUSINESS SHOW.

Karen Duncum:
You surprised me. You pulled that right off the website, didn't you?

Brian Kelly:
Yes, I did.

Karen Duncum:
So I have a story to tell. Oh, two or three months ago. I had been over-exercising in one vein. When you get to be my age, you have to alternate. You can't do the same exercise every day because you're using the same joints, same muscles. Really, everybody should do that. But with Covoid, all I could do is stair climb. I had a certain set of stairs in Santa Barbara that I would climb. I would do laps on the stairs. Little did I know, you can't do that every day to your body. You just can't do it. And so I didn't know what happened. They thought I was having a stroke. They thought I was having a blood clot, but they had to put me in an ambulance to take me to the E.R. because my right leg wouldn't work. I couldn't make it work. So the moral of the story is six hours of tests trying to figure out what was wrong with me when they finally discovered all it was, was a an exercise injury. But in the course of that, I had so many so many tests, every kind of test you can imagine, every blood test, every x-ray, CT scans, all of that. And so about five hours into this, the E.R. doctor came in, he said, "do you have your birth date right?" I said, "I don't know. What is it?" Of course, I'm kind of loopy then with the medication that they'd given me. He told me and I said, "Yep, that's right." He looked down at it and he looked back up at me and he said, "look, the reason I ask is I've never treated a woman or even a man your age as healthy as you are. We get all these tests. There's nothing wrong with you. Not one thing. Is it true that you don't take any medication at all?" I said, "yeah, that's true." He said, "well, congratulations, whatever you're doing, you just better keep doing it." The reason I tell you that story is that I have done all eight pillars of living vibrantly for years and years and years now. I tell you that because now I have proof. Personal proof. It works!

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, there's no other way you can... If you have proof, no one can refute it. And so in alignment with this, I used to be a certified personal trainer. I totally am in alignment with everything you're saying. If you stay healthy, by look... Exercise, people don't, I don't think people understand the incredible and immense benefits that come with regular exercise. Yeah, like you said Karen, you're not alone. Not many people enjoy it. You know, if everyone enjoyed it, we would all... All the guys would look like bodybuilders and all the ladies would be supermodels, wouldn't we? And that's just not the case. Just like with business. If it were easy, we would all... We wouldn't be doing this show. We wouldn't need to. This is about getting exposure for you and your business. That's my mission. And the thing is, if it were easy, then everyone would already be doing it, wouldn't we? And so, know that it's kind of a drag to work out. It can be. And there are ways to make it more fun. But you kind of touched on it, Karen, and that was out of necessity, is that if you enter a little bit of those spaces of variety in your workout and change it up, then it's not as mundane and boring and painful in the same areas each and every single time. And wow, when you get done, I mean, the endorphins and the feeling, the rush and the energy. Yeah, you're a little tired. You're fatigued physically. Mentally, I mean, I don't know about... I do know about... most everybody else, you're way alive. I mean, you're just... It's like an energy drink without the side effects, the bad side effects.

Karen Duncum:
You're just so glad it's over. You did it. You accomplished it, and it's over. You don't have to go any more today.

Brian Kelly:
It is still true. I am not going to say any different. You are. You're happy. I just worked out earlier today, and when I was done, same, I was feeling great. I was happy as heck that it was over because today was the more painful day. It involved legs. You talk to any guy, they don't like leg-day. They're massive muscles, and a lot of muscle is a lot of hurt.

Karen Duncum:
Yeah. Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
But you know what? You do what you got to do to keep going. I do it before every show. I learned.. This is a great tip by the way Karen, I got this and you're probably aware of this. One of my previous guests that came on said that any time he knows he's got quite a bit on his plate that he's got to take care of. He will work out right before actually going through those tasks. And he says he just plows through them now because he has now all the energy, the clarity, the focus and everything is there. Because he got his blood pumping, he got the endorphins flowing, he got the muscles in the stress taking care of. This rights the ship, doesn't it?

Karen Duncum:
When I'm really healthy, I like to exercise before I start working in the morning, and I like to go exercise on my lunch break. Both times. Certain things before and a certain thing at lunch. When everything's working, and the gyms are all open and the pools are open. That's my favorite thing because you feel so good.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, and that also helps a lot of people where we're isolated now. So it's much easier to make that excuse and miss another workout, isn't it? But when you have a place to go to and possibly some people you're familiar with. Even if not though there's something about being in a group atmosphere that pulls you there harder and you want to be there. Then when you leave, you feel more accomplished and happier. At least, I've seen that, and the clients, I had when I was a personal trainer, reported that as well. That that didn't make me happy because my whole program was based on doing it in your home without having to do the travel. It was for entrepreneurs. So it would save you time. It's okay. I got it. I understood it, and so it's just amazing that accountability, that's the biggest thing when you're trying to exercise. If you don't have anyone else pushing you... my son exercises darn near every single day. He still lives with us. He's an amazing young man. Twenty-four years old, just recently graduated and he inspires me. You know, he's working out every single day. I can hear the weights clanking downstairs in the living room.

Karen Duncum:
Oh, the other thing! If people knew what we teach in the exercise pillar about what is actually happening inside your body when you don't exercise. What's happening when you don't exercise is you're creating faster decay because once born we're decaying. If you exercise, you are creating a chemical. For shorthand, it's called C6 and C10. You create a chemical in your body that repairs, rejuvenates, and makes you younger. I am not kidding you. I have another story, but we'll wait and see if we have time for that.

Brian Kelly:
We have all the time we want because this is my show. We can go as long as we want. As long as you stay up, we're going. So hope everybody is in for a nice ride. We're going to be going another three hours. I'm just kidding, but what we're talking about, I want to bring it back up on the screen, are what Karen Duncan calls the eight pillars of success. At this moment, we've been kind of concentrating on the exercise pillar right here. You see on the screen. I don't know if my mouse is visible, but if it's not, that's all... Here it is. Here we go. We'll do it this way. There we go. Oh, you can see it. The exercise pillar toward the left, vertical. And this is very intriguing. So look at all of those pillars on the screen. That's a lot. And look, exercise that feeds health, doesn't it? Which also is related to happiness. Also, of course, living vibrantly. These all interconnected. That's what I love about it. Attitude. Oh, yes. There's mindset. Productivity. That's a direct result of attitude and exercise and everything in here. Everything is intertwined. It's like a beautiful Venn diagram. For those of you who know what that means. I know that's getting a little geeky and mathy, but I love this. I love this that you've broken it down and broken it out into very digestible categories. So, this is phenomenal. And what I wanted to do is ask you, Karen, who are the people that you love to serve the most? Are they small business owners? Entrepreneurs? Are they stay-at-home moms? What is your target market that you love to serve and help?

Karen Duncum:
So the people I've been coaching for years and years and years because of my business background, and then my psychology background, and my executive coaching... People like individually coach or business owners, top-level executives or people who are trying to be business owners. Who are trying to be even more successful in business without having to work more. So, a lot of my clients are working 80 and 90 hours, and one of the goals in working with them is to get them to be as successful or more successful, only working about thirty five hours a week. That's where all the productivity stuff comes in. But all of these pieces and parts of the eight pillars are important and not everybody can do individual coaching which is where Live Vibrantly became something I was so passionate about. Because everybody needs to know this stuff. If everybody knew, then they'd have the choice of... You have to be active. You have to do things. You can't just know about them, and all of a sudden the magic occurs. But I want, I really want before I die for as many people in the world to know what they have to do. I didn't know a lot of this stuff. And once I learned it, I thought I wish I had always known it. So what I did, because I can't coach everybody individually, is create Living Vibrantly so that people can get all of the eight pillars solidly in place in a year. Because every Monday morning, they can get in their inbox a video, a one-minute video from me, and then text with steps that they can take that week. If they implement that week, if they do that for fifty two weeks, they're now "living vibrantly".

Brian Kelly:
I love it and yes, you can get a taste of that actually on her website. She had a little one-minute...

Karen Duncum:
Wow, Brian. Look at you!

Brian Kelly:
Yes, I'm ready for you. Look at that. So you can see right there, the counter says one zero five. So, it's literally a minute, and she gives you... I love this one, "Working Backward". Start with the outcome and work backward. That is, oh, my gosh, that is such great advice. And Karen was saying before the show, that's how she opens every discussion with her clients every single time is let's go to the end and work backward.

Karen Duncum:
And what do you want to achieve today? Before we hang up the phone today. What do you want to be sure we achieve?

Brian Kelly:
Love it, and so that is extremely valuable advice. The reason I agree with that and know that is because this gentleman who I call my mentor, taught the same thing. And I got to tell you, Karen, I used to go to all of these networking events, seminars, boot camps, you name it all. I mean, good. I have so many of those lanyards with the badges that, those that let you keep them, they would put Mr. T to shame. All those gold chains, you know? The thing is... I just kept going and going and going, but I really didn't have a compelling outcome or know end in mind. I'll never forget this, Karen. I was sitting at one, and it was a mutual friend who was running the whole thing. I got a text from my mentor at that moment. He goes, "Hey, man, what are you doing?" I said, "Well, you know, so and so's event. All he had all I do is type in one word... A one-word response. I knew I knew exactly what he meant. He said, "Why?" He wasn't like saying that to say, you shouldn't be there. He was asking, you know, is it something... What was your outcome? Did you have an outcome? He didn't have to say any of those words. I Was like, "wow, this guy's good."

Karen Duncum:
Of course, you've seen Simon Sinek's TED talk, right?

Brian Kelly:
I've read his book. I haven't seen the TED talk.

Karen Duncum:
Oh, you'd love it.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I'm sure I would. Yeah.

Karen Duncum:
Just what you're talking about.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. So it was great because it turned out he lived, my mentor lived, very nearby. It was a three-hour drive for me to get to this event. My mentor lived nearby and he said instead of staying at that thing, why don't you come on over to my place? My dad just went deep-sea fishing, and he's literally making fresh sushi for a family. I'd love to have you over. I said... I typed back. I said, "next break, I will not be returning here". It was great. And so, yeah, Very important to have the outcome or start with the end in mind, as Karen says. I think that's incredibly valuable. What's the word I'm looking for? Advice! Because it can save you an incredible amount of time and money, like in my case, it was a lot of time that day. I was like, you know, it was going to go on for another four to six hours at least. I really wasn't getting anywhere. I was listening. I wasn't networking at that moment, but I got to hang out with my mentor who taught me more as I'm sitting there and we're eating dinner and we're driving around. It was...have the outcome in mind before you embark on investing time or money or both. Always think. Well, what do I want to get out of this? Like Karen said.

Karen Duncum:
I actually have a one page... I don't think we have this on the website yet, but I have a one page that I'd give to anyone. If you want to email me, I'll be happy to send it to you. It's one page beginning with the end in mind so that you don't have to fill out books of every day, fill out all this stuff. It's one page, you know where you want to be by the end of the year, by the end of each quarter, by the end of the month, and by the by every Friday. In order to get to the end of twenty twenty-one and achieve that, by this Friday I have to do this. So that you know what you need to do today, Thursday, and Friday. One page! I had my very first entrepreneurial endeavor was a time management system company. Oh it was laborious. The work, but my goodness it took so much time. Over the years I boiled it down to one sheet of paper. Begin with the end in mind, be clear, be succinct, and get it done.

Brian Kelly:
I like that because, now, it causes us to literally think about it and write it down. When you put pen to paper or even type it, it's better to write it. If put it down, you're more apt to remember it and you're more apt to actually do whatever it is you're embarking on. So I love that it's actionable. It's not just "here's how to"... Just read these words. No. It's, "Here's what you need to do for each segment at weekly, monthly, yearly. Tell what is your plan?" It makes you think, and I love that. Yeah. So that would be great. I wonder how many people that are watching would love to have that resource. I mean, Karen will give it to you if you ask for it. I just....

Karen Duncum:
Yes, I will.

Brian Kelly:
Put that in the comments. Say "me, pick me" or "yes, I want that". Anything to let her know. Show her some love. Give her something in return for this. Come on. I like to have fun. Yes. Oh my goodness. So you do this as one-on-one coaching now. Now, with what we're going through and kind of the lockdown situation, not really able to nuzzle up physically to anybody, especially where you and I live in the state. We live in California. One of the most lockdown states in the nation. How are you coping with that? With working with your clients? Have you migrated over to doing online? Like through Zoom. How are you pivoting if you needed to do that?

Karen Duncum:
Ninety-five percent of my coaching work is on the phone anyway. Even before covid. I only have a small number of clients that I see face-to-face, which is kind of sad. I've gotten used to it. I have clients all over the country, actually all over... Well, England, Canada. So most of it's all the phone. It hasn't been a change for me as much as it's been a change for my clients because they've been struggling with having their kids at home, and their work at home, and not having a division of time that's been kind of tough. Also one of the pillars of Live Vibrantly is connectedness. I don't think people understand the danger that we are in by not being able to stay connected physically and physically. I mean, one-on-one. We don't know how... We don't understand or think about how often we touch people during the day. Touch them. Like if somebody is walking out your door, you might pat their back as they leave. We just down to the bare nitty gritty. We are mammals. Watch how dogs and other animals lay on top of each other. I mean, we need physical connection. We need to shake hands. We need to pat each other on the back, and it would be very lovely to get that again. So there's a different sense. Connectedness is one of the pillars, and you only get a slice of it every time eight weeks rolls around- the connectedness. There are a lot of tips in there about how you can stay connected with people and not starve yourself of that critical ingredient.

Brian Kelly:
Love it, love it. Bring that back. Bring us back. Yeah, connection. Yeah, that is something that's missing vitally at the moment. It's pretty global at the moment, and I think there's a reason why we're hearing so many issues with people with mental problems that are going through this. They're missing that and so many other things. I love the fact that you are already prepared. Your business model was already set up. You had no idea this was coming, but it just turned out that you are already good to go.

Karen Duncum:
Yeah. I even got Covoid. I mean, I was one of the people who got it.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah and oh my gosh. So you broke that seal. So I wanted to talk about it because you were scheduled to be on this show some time ago. You came down with Covid, and you just simply didn't have the energy. And I said, "I don't care. The biggest thing I care about your health."

Karen Duncum:
You were so kind to me about that.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. I mean, it's about how people react to different... I never get upset. Here's the thing. You know, I coached many kids sports. And if a young person is putting in all the effort they can, and they just can't make that basket. Say it's basketball. I'm not going to get on them for that. I'm going to lift them up and say, "Great job. You put everything you had into it." Here's the thing. Life happens no matter what, and it's all about how you react to these situations. For me, I look at the person. It's like this is not fun for her. Why would I worry about, "Oh, boo hoo, I have to go find somebody on my show."

Karen Duncum:
You are absolutely so... It made me feel so good. Thank you, Brian.

Brian Kelly:
Thank you. I appreciate that.

Karen Duncum:
I couldn't even talk. I mean, I had so little energy. People would call me on the phone to ask how I was doing, and I'd go, "can't talk". That's about all I could get out.

Brian Kelly:
My gosh. So thank God you are okay, and that you recovered.

Karen Duncum:
It never got into my respiratory system. That was very fortunate.

Brian Kelly:
It's just wonderful. I love success stories like this.

Karen Duncum:
Attitude. Part of its attitude.

Brian Kelly:
I, I wholeheartedly agree with you totally.

Karen Duncum:
Attitudes produce chemicals. Negative attitudes produce chemicals that tear us down physically. Positive attitudes produce chemicals that build up physically.

Karen Duncum:
It's not just woo-woo. It's not just, oh positive thinking. It's science.

Brian Kelly:
Yes. Listen to her! Listen to her! She speaks the truth. Would you rather... Okay, here, here's what it comes down to. Tell me if you agree with this, Karen. For each and every one of us, it comes down to one simple thing. That is choice.

Karen Duncum:
Yes!

Brian Kelly:
You either choose to react negatively to everything that's going on in your life, whether it's good or bad. Or you choose to take whatever circumstances are given to you and just react differently like Karen has done. Where she was in a bad space...

Karen Duncum:
Just ask yourself, what is the possible good outcome of this? Just start thinking about what could be good. How could this be good? If you start thinking that you quit thinking about all the icky parts. At least it occupies your brain in a positive fashion.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, yeah. I love to talk about one little quick exercise people can do. This isn't... you don't have to suffer a tragedy to go through it. It's like how many of you, including myself, have ever said, "you know what, I have to go do the dishes now." Right, who loves doing dishes? I don't know a person on the planet that does. That's a negative act to many of us. We have this negative feeling toward it. Rather than saying I have to, I tell people, be aware that you said that word, have to. Reframe it into... Well, I get to.

Karen Duncum:
Words matter. Words really matter.

Brian Kelly:
Amazing things happen whether you think of them outwardly, like consciously. It's really the subconscious is taking over, like, really... You get to? Why is that? Well, I guess you have dishes to wash, don't you? That's a blessing. You have a sink, apparently, or a dishwasher.

Karen Duncum:
You have a kitchen!

And a kitchen. This means you have possibly a home or an apartment you're living in or a dorm room, whatever happens to be. Just think of the blessings... when you just changed one word. So I encourage everyone watching, listening to this, to put that into practice. Any time I have to go mow the lawn or I have to go shovel snow, which a lot of people, unfortunately, are doing right now. How about I get to. I have a shovel. I own one. That means I was able to pay for it at least at one point. There's a lot of great things you can do with this. And this woman, she knows all about it all. I think you should all connect with her. We're going to give you that detail here in a moment. Oh, my goodness. I can't believe we're already ten minutes out.

Karen Duncum:
Woah!

Brian Kelly:
Well, that's if I decide that we're only ten minutes out. I want to talk more about Live Vibrantly. What do people...so, when someone is a business owner... Let's say someone is just getting started. Those are the perfect ones, I would say that could use your assistance from the get go. I wish I had known somebody like you when I first started because...

Karen Duncum:
I wish I had.

Brian Kelly:
Pardon?

Karen Duncum:
I wish I had.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. Because that would have been so much time not wasted. Right. That's one of the beautiful things about what Karen does is what she will help you do is to get past the hurdles that almost everybody else on the planet goes through. She's got the experience and know-how and been through it and proven that her service and her approach works to get you to the finish line. The outcome, the end much, quicker than if you were to just do it on your own. So let's face it, let's not do stuff on our own. Let's do.... Let's model success. Let's find people who know how to do it, and grab on. This is not literally, meant to be literal, but grab on to both ankles and don't let go. So go ahead and virtually grab onto Karen's ankles. Don't let go, get connected with her, and take the next step. Just have a chat and see what the next steps might be. Again, she's got some gifts to give away here in a moment. This is phenomenal.

Karen Duncum:
Yes, I had a conversation with a client today and a business associate. We were talking about that. Everyone needs a coach. Coaches need coaches. I have a coach. Even if you coach the very same thing, you can't see it in yourself. You need an outside person because you're in it. You're mashed in it. You can't see the forest for the trees. You need an outside person to reveal what you already know. To pull it out of you.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, that is so true. I've just I've had this same conversation twice in the last week. It is so true. It's like, you know, I'll be talking to somebody who's got a business. They'll say, "I'm struggling with this area." I'll go, "Oh yeah, you just want to do X, Y, Z." They're like, "How did you do that?" I was like, "I don't know, but I'll tell you one thing. If it's my own business, I can't get myself out of a paper bag if I was put in one." I could figure out how to get out. I don't know what it is, but I had this lock. I can do far more for others than I can do for my own self.

Karen Duncum:
Yeah. Yeah. Just the way it is.

Brian Kelly:
It's true. What you just said is gold. I hope everybody caught on to that, is get a coach. I wonder if there's any coaches available nearby right now that you could possibly connect with named, "Karen Duncan". I don't know. I'm just saying. Maybe? I mean, look at her. She is such a sweetheart. I'll bet you, though, that when when the rubber meets the road, when it's time to get you the results, she's going to be shrewd as necessary. Because she loves you. She'll love you, and love isn't always like sweet and nurturing and lovey-dovey. It's about getting the results for you because she loves you.

Karen Duncum:
Tough love too. You got tough love. Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
There you go. That's what we want... Are the results. You know what? I remember going through speaker training. I would teach part of my mentor segments from his stage to his students, like 90-minute segments. When I was done, I knew I was going to receive what they would call "feedback". I knew that that feedback was not going to feel good. It never did from an ego standpoint. After a couple of those sessions... After doing that and then going up the next time and seeing an incredible improvement that that resulted in... I later could not wait to get feedback. My ego was gone. The result was all I could see anymore. I was focusing on the result, and I loved it. I was like, "do not tell me that that was great and perfect". I need to know what I need to do to improve on. I don't want the the soft, flowery, fluffy, sugar-coated, you know, none of that. Give me the truth so I can improve, and they did because they love me.

Karen Duncum:
Yeah. Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
It's just the only way to go, and I know that's what Karen's going to do for you. Who wants that? Who wants that love? Of course, and then after you're done, maybe visit her and go get some wine.

Karen Duncum:
Oh, yeah. I'll take you outdoors. I have good places to eat too.

Brian Kelly:
I'll bet you do. Yeah, I love that whole area is just phenomenal. Wife and I just... We need to go back. Yeah, we need to go back. So. In life, now and then, we go through these times where there's this F-word... No, it's not that one. This F-word that many people, probably went to the wrong word, that a lot of people go through that can literally cripple them as far as going forward in life and in business. That F word is fear. It's still a four-letter word. Karen, in your like, I don't know. It doesn't have to be recent. What what would you say has been your greatest fear up till now, and then how do you manage it and get over it? Get past it?

Karen Duncum:
Ok, so my greatest fear is pretty typical of most of ours if you get underneath all the layers. That is that I'm not adequate, or I'm not enough. So over the years, of course, I've worked on that. When it arises, all you really have to do after you've worked on it long enough because there are certain things you have to take care of to get to this point. What I do now, I have little reminders. I have one on my refrigerator. I have one in my bathroom and they're little signs. You can actually buy them on Amazon. It says, "remember who you are". Because we forget how great we are, and we are all great. We fall back into at times, based on circumstances, things that make us think we're still inadequate and still not okay and still not enough or too much. If we can go wait a minute, it's all about every single and every pillar. It comes down to being able to stop and get conscious. What is happening right now inside of me? If I can remember who I am, I can stand tall and the fear just goes away. It just diminishes.

Brian Kelly:
I love how you just said that, "we are all great".

Karen Duncum:
We are all great.

Brian Kelly:
We need more people like you reminding us. I'm sure that's what you do as a coach. You brought to mind another gentleman that I was so blessed to have a show with, and I pulled this book out. It's the one and only Les Brown, and he always says this. He goes, "you have greatness in you". I love his buttery voice. I love to imitate it because it's just so smooth.

Karen Duncum:
Yeah, and Maya Angelou's... I mean, we can all recite that.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. You know, to have someone that lifts you like that as a coach, as someone that helps you to remember who you are... That, look, we were all very divinely and uniquely created. We all have our own unique talents and "we are all great", as Karen says. That's a great reminder when you're ever feeling possibly inadequate, or not enough, is to have those reminders. Often times it does come from the outside, from outside of you. In the form of a Karen Duncan would be one, and then she could give you those resources on where to find these things on Amazon to give you the reminders as you walk through your home. Just start really pulling out the greatness in you. Because everyone does have it, and it's our duty. It's our duty to share it with others because our greatness isn't always the same greatness as someone else's. They could use the help in those areas.

Karen Duncum:
I mean. If we all have the same greatness, we wouldn't have anyone to do these other things. Right?

Brian Kelly:
I think it'd be pretty darn boring, to be honest.

Karen Duncum:
Yeah!

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. We're very fortunate and blessed to have all of this. Oh, my goodness. Yes, so we've got Thomas Henderson. "Nice overview, enjoyed it greatly". Thank you for coming on, Thomas. Oh, yes. Andy LaRusso, "Want to say thank you, Karen. You are doing your work well. Keep it up, and stay healthy." Thank you so much. You guys are amazing. Appreciate that. Wow. That's it, we're at the end, I didn't realize that the ten minutes is already gone. I actually did it. So it's time to soon reveal how those who have stayed with us live can win a five night stay at a five-star luxury resort. Compliments of I'm not pointing at Karen. I'm not being rude. The Big Insider Secrets! It's the big red logo up there. You see if you're watching. Before I do that, though, Karen. I'd love to ask one question, one final question of each guest. I also have not forgotten you have gifts to give away as well. So stick with us. Don't go anywhere. We're not done yet. Far from it, actually, because this question could be worth the entire show. I'm not kidding. There have been some phenomenal answers to this. Your's will be no, no less. I know. The beautiful thing is it gets a little personal, and it can be very powerful. So don't worry, it's like the other one... It's painless; it's pain-free. Before we jump into that, though, let's do some giveaways. Shall we?

Karen Duncum:
Okay!

Brian Kelly:
I'm going to do something different. I'm going to say this time. Let's go ladies first. So you had a couple of things that you wanted to share with our wonderful viewers that you'd like to offer them as a gift or a giveaway. So I'll let you take it away as I bring your website back up.

Karen Duncum:
Thank you. Okay. I want to give one person, whoever wins this prize, a free coaching session so that you can see how I can help you achieve what you're trying to achieve. Then I also want to give five of you, however Brian figures out who the winners are, a one-year free subscription that we sell on our website for sixty dollars for the year. If you have the subscription, then you get everything that's on the website. All the resources. The name that you get every Monday, you get what we call the vibrant minute. The Monday morning minute, which gives you one set of tools in each of the eight pillars. So we just rotate the eight pillars. So in fifty-two weeks you actually get to be a vibrant person or a more vibrant person. So I want to give those to five people.

Brian Kelly:
Fantastic. Thank you so very much for that. So just drop in the comments. Say,"I want to win." Drop it in the comments. Say, "I want to win." Then you will be entered to win one of those five spots. Look, I've watched... You can see a couple of them as an example on her website. The one minute... I completely forgot what you call it just a second ago.

Karen Duncum:
Oh, it's the "Monday Morning Minute".

Brian Kelly:
Monday Morning Minute. Thank you. Look, it's just a minute. So it's digestible, it's powerful, and it's just one minute every single Monday. Right?

Karen Duncum:
Then we have articles you're seeing now. We have different articles and different resources on the website.

Brian Kelly:
And look... Karen, oh my gosh, I was reading some of your articles, and you are a magnificent writer. You're so easy to read and engaging and you have just a mastery of the written word. I appreciate that because...

Karen Duncum:
I actually have helper's. I have people who edit and help me.

Brian Kelly:
There you go. Another great tip, everyone, all the way to the end. She is dropping bombs and nuggets. I love it. More coaching. We have people commenting. Here we go. Yes. Marcelle Hanish. You are in. I will keep these comments up, and I will then send you the email address of Karen to... There we go, Thomas Henderson. Fantastic. Keep them coming... Keep them coming. We want everybody to be a winner. Speaking of that, one more before we ask Karen that one deep, very moving question. Remember, if you want to win a five night stay at a five-star resort, then all you need to do... And we'll give you permission now to take your gaze away very temporarily from the screen and bring out your phone and pull up your messaging app. Why? Because that's how you enter to win. I'll put it up on the screen. So what you want to do is bring up your messaging app on your phone. When you would go to text somebody, normally you would type in say their name. Instead of their name, In that same spot type in this phone number. That is three-one-four-six-six-five-one-seven-six-seven. Now, I would encourage you to write this down because we're going to move off of this really quick. So write this down. Three-one-four-six-six-five-one-seven-six-seven. Then when you go to type in the message.. Where are you going to send them off to whatever your status is, maybe an emoji or two? None of that. No emojis, just two words separated by a dash or a hyphen. If you prefer. Those two words are peak. That's P-E-A-K dash vacation, peak dash vacation. That is how you enter. Then once you've texted that, keep your phone handy because there will be one more step for you. That is to simply supply your email address. You will be asked. It will come to you automatically, and once you do that, you will then be officially entered to win. Don't worry, we don't spam, we don't do anything like that. It's solely for the purpose of delivering to the winner the big grand prize via email. So go ahead and do that right now. I can't wait to see those come flooding in. As they do that, we're going to come back to the woman of the hour. So that contest, by the way, is good to the end of this evening. So write that down and now put your gaze back on this show, because Karen's going to drop one more big one on everybody. I mean, a nice big one. When I say a big one, it's going to be...

Karen Duncum:
What if I don't have an answer?

Brian Kelly:
So here's the thing to this. You will have an answer, and that's number one. Number two is there is no such thing as a wrong answer. It does not exist. It's exactly the opposite. The only correct answer is yours, and it will come to you. Look, it doesn't have to be instant. It could take several moments. That's okay. Some take moments. Some get an instant. Everyone's different. See, that's what makes it personal. That's it. There's no more personal to it. So you can relax and know that it's going to be fun. It's going to be supremely powerful to everyone watching. I just know it because I've done this one hundred and thirty-six times. I think in the past. So are you ready?

Karen Duncum:
I'm ready.

Brian Kelly:
All right. Let's make sure I'm ready. Here we go. Karen Dumcum. How do you define success?

Karen Duncum:
Oh, that's an easy one. Try to figure out how to say this. To me, a successful person is one who has been able to shed all the conditioning of our society, of our teachers, of our parents, of our churches... Shed all the conditioning and become who you truly are. Become your real authentic self. If we can go back to when we were very first born and be that being without all the conditioning, that's where the gold is. That's where all the talents are. That's what we came into the world with. If we can shed all of that other stuff, then whatever we do in life, we will be successful at. That's my answer. I can't hear you.

Brian Kelly:
There we go. I've got to turn my microphone back up. Here's the beautiful thing, Karen, about that. Because I wanted everybody to hear you and nothing else going on behind the scenes. That's an important question that I get to ask. I love it because time and time and time again, no two people... I have done one hundred thirty-six or so of these. I don't know. I'm around there. No two people have ever answered it the same exact way. Still, it's amazing to me. That's why it's so personal. Everyone's definition of success is actually different. Some are close to being similar, but they're never like right on the same. The other really neat thing I've learned by asking this question. Of all of the people like you, because I bring on successful entrepreneurs, not just people that are just wannabes and just kicking the tires and not serious about it. Those that are successful to a person, not one of them said that success was defined by the amount of money they made. That's telling. That just tells me that I'm in the right place with the right family. So you're part of the family now, Karen. Remember, you can't choose your family. Sorry, but you're now in it.

Karen Duncum:
Yay! I'm glad.

Brian Kelly:
Me too. I love being part of this group of wonderful, amazing people like yourself because of the mindset that goes with it. It's about a serving attitude, about wanting to help others, about... I love it. Shed the conditioning so that you can be your true, authentic self. The one that you were designed to be. That's she's saying that from love because she's been through it herself and learned how to break through and shed her conditioning so that now she can help you to pull out your brilliance and your amazingness.

Karen Duncum:
Well, really and truly, Live Vibrantly can give people health, happiness, and success. But, being authentic, you can't help but be happy every day. If you're just being yourself, you're using all your innate tools and talents and skills. You can't help but be happy.

Brian Kelly:
The interesting thing I found, and this is by myself going through and being inauthentic at times. You know, "fake it till you make it". Is once you've really embraced yourself for who you are and you just go about things authentically, you'll find that in the business realm, your business just starts exploding. It's kind of like... I liken it to how dogs can sense fear, humans can sense inauthenticity. That's tough on inauthenticity. There we go. And so, yeah, the more authentic you are, the better you are. People want to know about your faults, your shortcomings because that makes you more like them and they can relate to that to you.

Karen Duncum:
Everybody is so thirsty and hungry for it.

Brian Kelly:
Pardon?

Karen Duncum:
Everyone is so thirsty and hungry for authenticty.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah.

Karen Duncum:
Give me something real.

Brian Kelly:
Exactly. No more phony baloney, as we used to say. Oh, my goodness. Karen Duncum. Amazing, amazing. Thank you so much for coming on. I know it was an ordeal to finally get here, and I'm so glad that this happened. You are amazing getting ready. If I could. I'm not going to tell anybody about what this young woman went through just to be on the show tonight was amazing. Nothing short of, and she did a phenomenal job getting ready and being here, being present for you. Because it was all about you. It was all about you, the listener, the watcher. So appreciate you, and that's it for tonight. Ladies and gentlemen, it's a wrap.

Karen Duncum:
Thank you for getting me on here. I loved being on here with you, Brian. It was great.

Brian Kelly:
Thank you, and I get all the joy out of this. I love what I get to do. Because of you, Karen, and people like you. You're amazing. That's it. On behalf of the amazing Karen Duncum, I am the host of The MIND BODY BUSINESS SHOW, Brian Kelly. Until next time, we'll see you once again. So long and be blessed all. Take care.

Narrator:
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Narrator :
So, here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us, who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back. Who are dedicated, determined, and driven. How do we finally break through and win? That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly, and this is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show.

Brian Kelly:
Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Super excited for tonight's show. We have not just one, not two, not three, but four, four amazing guest experts who are joining me tonight right here on this very stage.

Brian Kelly:
They are waiting in the wings at this moment. So let's get busy. Shall we? The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, that is a show about what I call the three pillars of success, and that came about as a result of my study of only successful people in the last decade or so. And these patterns kept bubbling to the top and those patterns being mine, which is mindset set. Each and every successful person, to a person, had a very powerful and flexible mindset. So I learned that and said," I need to implement that". Then body: body is about literally taking care of yourself. Through nutrition and through exercise, exercising on a regular basis, and again that was another pattern of very successful people and in business. These successful people had mastered the skill-sets that were necessary to create, maintain, and grow a thriving business. They're wide and varied. It's like marketing, sales, team-building, systematizing. It goes on and on and on, leadership. There's no one person, in my humble opinion, that could master every single one of these. All you have to do is master just one, and I actually mentioned one of those. It was in that list. I don't know if anyone caught that, but if you master just one of those skill sets then you're good to go. That skill set is leadership. When you've mastered the skill set of leadership, you can then delegate those skills off to people who have those skill sets. See where I'm going? Good. That's what successful people do; the ones that I studied, anyway, over the course of about 10 years. That's what this show's about. It's a show for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs. I got four guests waiting, and I'm not going to wait any longer. So, I think we should just bring them on. What do you think? Let's do it.

Narrator :
It's time for the guest expert spotlight, savvy, skillful, professional and deft, trained, big league, qualified.

Brian Kelly:
And there they all are. These amazing, beautiful guests on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. How are you all doing? Altogether, too. That was phenomenal, I love that. So real quick. All of you, I hope you don't mind for just a moment. I want to do some housekeeping? I wanted to mention to everyone watching here live. If you stay with us till the end, you can win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. All compliments of our friends at The big insider secrets dotcom. You see them flying by on the bottom of the screen right now. It's an amazing, amazing vacation stay. Stay until the end, and you'll learn how you can enter to win that wonderful prize. We also have this. If you're struggling with putting on a live show, and it's overwhelming and you want a lot of the processes done for you while still enabling you to put on a high-quality show. And connect with great people like the ones we have tonight, and to grow your business all at the same time, then head on over to carpet bomb marketing dotcom. Carpet bomb marketing, saturate the marketplace with your message. One of the key components that is contained in the carpet bomb marketing courses, and this is one that you'll learn how to absolutely master, is the very service we use to stream our live shows right here on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Over the course of the past, now it's over nine years, we have tried many of these, "TV studio solutions" for live streaming. I'll tell you right now, Stream Yard is the best of the best. It combines supreme ease of use along with unmatched functionality. So, go ahead. You can start streaming high-quality, professional live shows for free. Yes, I said it. For free, with Stream Yard right now. Visit this website, and do this after the show over. Take notes while the show is going. So write this down R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. Fantastic. Now let's get to the real fun, and the fun is these amazing people. Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. How are you all doing tonight? Thank you for being on this amazing show. Yes. So, what I'd like to do is open it up. Let the folks get to know you just a little bit now. Ok, guys. We're talking sixty seconds or less. All right. Just lay it low here, but we'll just go and order. I usually go ladies first, but let's just go around the circle. It's easier for me who's running the show. So. That's what's important. Right? So, let's start with Dylan Shinholser. Go ahead. Take it away. Give us a little brief background about you, what you do, and your business.

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. So like I said, my name is Dylan Shinhoser. I own a couple of different businesses. I'm owner of a company called, "Experience Events", which is event management. I'm also a director of business development at a virtual event, event ticketing, and virtual event platform called, "ViewStub". As well as a co-host of another show called, "Event Masters", where I just ramble all day, every day about how to produce better experiences. It's really all I know and love to do is events. That is my less than 60-second pitch about myself.

Brian Kelly:
That's a good one, too. I'll tell everybody I've spoken with you in person. We had a call some time ago, and this gentleman, Dylan, is made of integrity and great character. So, reach out to him if you need any assistance in any of the areas he talked about, or if you just want to say hi to a really great guy. Then get in contact with him, and at the end of the show, we'll go through that. Please. Somebody remind me if I forget how to contact each of you. Because that's very important to me. This is the reason I bring this show to the forefront. (It) is to bring people like you into the lives of those who may not know who you are yet, and even those that do, to experience even more of your brilliance, your experience, your knowledge, and your value. It's not about me. This is about you. Always, always. Every time. I have one guest, usually. I just feel like I'm in this big family right now. But let's keep moving. Julie Riley, amazing young woman. Take it away.

Julie Riley:
Yes. So, I am Julie Riley. I am the social media manager at StreamYard. The platform we're using right now. Prior to my time with StreamYard, I owned my own marketing agency. I've been in digital marketing since two thousand and seven. So the very, very early days of the start of it is when I jumped in(to) digital marketing, and I love just being able to help others succeed in their business.

Brian Kelly:
Fantastic, and I will also say that I have spoken with Julie in the past. Both through a typewritten chat form and verbally. I think it was Clubhouse first time, which was phenomenal. Yet another phenomenal person, incredible integrity, and character. And yes, you're going to notice there's a pattern about this with the remaining two. It's the same thing. Hopefully, we can get the last one to talk a little bit. That will be nice. I'm just having fun because we were having fun before the show started. The one smiling. The biggest down there with the green hood; not pointing anyone out or anything. Thank you, Julie, for coming on. Yes. These people, Julie and Christian specifically, I know Christians coming up here in second. They're non-stop. They don't stop working. It's evident because of the very software research we're using right now. It's of grand quality for a reason. It's because of people like Julian Christian who keep everything rolling smoothly on the back end. Dylan's there nodding his head emphatically because he gets it. It's a lot of work, and they're doing it masterfully and we appreciate you. All right. Enough of the favoritism here that felt like favoritism. Julie's our favorite. Timothy McNeely! My buddy, my friend from just a little north of where I reside. I believe. If I remember.

Timothy McNeely:
Central California, baby. Bakersfield. Yeah, my name is Tim McNeely. Today, so many dentists and driven entrepreneurs are just not sure if they're getting advice that really makes a difference for them. They may have a financial adviser who is giving them some advice on their investment portfolio, but they're not really sure that they're on the right track to really maximize their net worth outside of their business. That's what I help them do. Maximize your net worth so that you can keep taking care of the people you love, support the causes you care about, really make that difference in the world, and build an amazing life of significance. I love doing streaming because I get to talk to some of the best of the best out there and share the knowledge with the beautiful entrepreneurial community.

Brian Kelly:
I'll tell you something on a personal note as well. Literally, we talked earlier today, Tim and I, on a Zoom call. He just reached out to me and said, "let's catch up." I had him on the show some time ago as a single, solo guest, and he was phenomenal. We've just kind of maintained a relationship, a friendship ever since. He just wanted to reach out and say, "Hi" and "What's up? What do you want to talk about?" We just started talking about business and things. He gave me resources that will help me in my business, and hopefully, I reciprocated it somehow. I don't know if I did, but it is the people like Tim, like Julie, like Dylan, like Christian. That is the cloth that they are all cut from. They are here to help people. That's why I love entrepreneurs. I love all of you. I mean it. I do. I love you. You guys are amazing. I didn't even get a crack at a Christian on that one. Jeez, I mean... there we go. That's a little better, but I'm telling you, he's working on StreamYard our stuff right now as we're on the show. I mean, I'm.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm really trying not to, seriously.

Brian Kelly:
The founder Geige Vandentop. If you ever watch this, there's a message to you. Ease up on your people. Alright? Just having fun. Alright, Timothy, you're an amazing guy. Thank you for spending your valuable time and coming on here. As well as Dylan, Julie, and the ever so talkative one, Christian. I'm not going to attempt to say your last name. I'll let you take care of that one. Welcome to the show, Christian. Let's hear all about your brilliance.

Christian Karasiewicz:
Sure. Thanks a lot for having me. My name is Christian Kerasiewicz. I'm the content marketing manager at StreamYard. So, pretty much anything you see on our blog that we're going to soon be launching. I'm the mastermind behind that. So, I do that. In addition to that, I also host live stream reviews, a YouTube show. We also do on the StreamYard YouTube channel where we invite people on to talk about their live streams and help them work through some of their problems, some of their challenges that they might be having with getting community or building a show. Thanks a lot for having me. I appreciate it.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, my gosh. Thank you again, Christian, for your time and being here. I mean, he's literally building a blog while on a live show. I mean, that's a great thing. I'm not even kidding with this one. That is phenomenal. That is showing such dedication. So, it's more than that. It's passion. It's love. You know? What time is that where you are, Christian?

Christian Karasiewicz:
About 9 o'clock, or yeah... about 9 o'clock.

Brian Kelly:
(Nine o'clock) PM. Ladies and gentlemen, in case you're watching this recording. Yes. By the way, I'm going to be on twenty-five different platforms after this is over. So no pressure, but don't mess up. I'm just kidding. So, this is a phenomenal group of people, and I can't wait to dig in. Christian, just what you just said, what you do is right down the alley of what I was hoping to talk about tonight. It'll go organically, but I wanted to talk about... I mean, look at Julie, and look at Christian, and look at their images. Look at their video. It is gorgeous. Here, we'll start with a really gorgeous one first. Look at that. I mean. If there were nose hairs that weren't in place, we'd see them. That's phenomenal, and there is Julie. Wow. Very beautiful. Even more beautiful. I should just have her up like this all the time, and we can just talk in the background. Because, you know, maybe more people would come on. So, you guys have phenomenal camera setups, and here's one thing I always like to preach to those who are getting into the live streaming game. Does it take money? Yes, it does. It takes resources. It takes cameras, microphones, (a) computer, internet, good internet, fast internet, lighting, doesn't have to be fancy. What I always say though, is, do the best you can with the resources you currently have. OK, I wanted to start it off that way because what we're about to talk about with Julie and Christian is their cameras. They are top of the line. We're not talking a one-hundred or two-hundred-dollar webcam here. I like to let ladies go first. So, Julie, do you have a story when you first turned on your new camera versus when you had the webcam and what that looked like and felt like.

Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh, I turned that camera on, and it was immediately noticeable (the difference). I actually did a live on my personal Facebook page where I logged myself in as a second user into StreamYard. I had my Logitech camera that I had been using up as a camera and then had my new one. So, I could do back and forth and show everybody the difference between the two. What an upgrade that was. The Logitech served me great for years. It didn't stop me from going live, but that upgrade was immediately like, "oh, I can never go back down now".

Brian Kelly:
So, that so that is one thing. Let's say you're on the road, and I can imagine at some point both you and Christian, maybe, you'll be sent on the road to maybe support conventions and things that are on the road. Now, you want to stream live, what are you going to do then?

Julie Riley:
Well, you know, the great thing about the Sony is (that) it's a small camera. Tripods, portable ones, are small. I can take it with me. If all else fails, and I'm either on my phone or I'm on my little webcam or even my built in webcam, it's not going to stop me from going live. Is it going to be exactly what I want? No, but more than likely I'll have the Sony with me.

Brian Kelly:
Thank you for saying that. I mean, that spoke such volumes. I hope people are taking notes that are watching. Definitely take notes on this. Because, look, the show must go on. That's what I say, and this show tonight is the result of a guest who unfortunately was ill and could not make it on. So, I scrambled and found these four wonderful people to say, "I'll come on and do a panel with you." And that's it. The show must go on, and I'm going to either do it with people or I'll do it solo. It doesn't matter. Consistency is key, and we can talk more about that, too. I love how you're just talking about, Julie. Where, look, I don't care where I'm at. If I've got something and it's my time to go live, and I don't have my gear. I'm doing it.

Julie Riley:
Right.

Brian Kelly:
I love that commitment. So, thank you for that. For everyone listening, that's important. Yes, quality is important. Like I said, do the best you can with what resources you currently have. That includes, wherever you are. You may have a DSL camera that Julie paid five-hundred thousand dollars for. Oh, sorry, it wasnt that much.

Julie Riley:
Thank God it wasnt that much!

Brian Kelly:
What was the model of that again?

Julie Riley:
A6000.

Brian Kelly:
What does it run about?

Julie Riley:
It was about seven hundred.

Brian Kelly:
OK, not too bad. A little bit less than five-hundred thousand. Not much but yeah.

Julie Riley:
Yeah.

It's a phenomenal thing, and I love that that's your attitude toward commitment. I'll tell you. You have a similar attitude...anytime I go and ask for support through the back side of StreamYard community. I mean, like through messaging. When I say the backside, that's sounded weird. When I ask for support, you're always there. I mean, you don't sleep, and I appreciate that. So, keep not sleeping for everybody's sake. Christian, you do the same. So, Christian, what about you? When you made that initial change from whatever camera you had before to this unbelievably clear one year look you're working with right now. What did that feel like the moment you saw a difference?

Christian Karasiewicz:
So, it's very interesting actually. So, this is actually what I was using before. I've been using this for quite a number of years. This is a Logitech Brio. It does do 4K. I invested in this one and eventually came out, and the quality was fantastic. The only thing was, though. I wanted to scale. So this was great for traveling, for example. This is what I took around with me. Super portable. It's got the ability to put it on a tripod. Fantastic, but it did not allow me to scale, so I had to always take up another USB port and all that sort of thing. When I moved to the Sony, the Sony looked very good. I will say the one thing you have to do, though, is you need to go through the settings. There are a few adjustments you want to change. That's what's going to actually enhance your picture quality of it. It's a fantastic camera. It's a Sony 6400. Then, really, the other side to it is also the lens. So I'm using a Sigma lens. So, that I think is the real big difference. I mean you have the kit lenses it comes with. I did make the investment in the the additional lens, which I think that's actually what's contributing to why it looks so good. I will say from a quality standpoint, again, start with what you have. You know, the key things for live streaming. Audio is going to be your most important part. Then also, if you, for example, are using one of these webcams, make sure you have enough light. These things look great with a lot of light. When you don't have a lot of light, you're going to see pixelation. You're going to see distortion and things like that. So, turn it back to you.

Brian Kelly:
Especially with light, if you turn on the green screen feature, you really need to have good lighting then. That's the biggest time. I'm so glad to be liberated from that. Even though I loved it. This is actually a natural well behind me. I painted the entire studio. I actually occupy my daughter's former bedroom. I've been here for four or five years now, and I finally got rid of the cartoon drawings and the yellow paint. I'm a real boy now. I have a real studio. This is awesome.

Christian Karasiewicz:
That looks really good by the way. I was very surprised (by) your background because that looks like one of the standard backgrounds people would normally bring up during a live stream. One that has, you know, the gradient going around the outside. So, whoever did the painting on that fantastic job.

Brian Kelly:
Why, thank you very much. My wife did most of the work to be honest, but I feel like that helps with that. Yeah.

Timothy McNeely:
If you want that comparison between cameras. Right. Christine was just talking about the Logitech Brio. That's what I'm on, and you can see the massive quality difference between Kristen and Julie versus the webcam. So. Right. (A) huge step up.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, we'll point that out in glowing detail right now.

Christian Karasiewicz:
You're using a green screen. Right?

Timothy McNeely:
Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
Your sound, Christian, is smooth. I mean, you have a great radio voice. Having that microphone, I think will pivot to that too. Dylan, what are your thoughts on cameras? Yours looks actually really decent right now? You're on (a) green screen, correct?

Dylan Shinholser:
Correct. Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
It looks really clean. You've done a good job with all the lighting. It's almost like you've done this before, and you know what you're doing.

Dylan Shinholser:
I try. Yeah. So, I actually when I first started doing it, I started listening back on my phone. When this whole pandemic hit, I was using the one inside your laptop and realized very quickly (that) I'm on calls all day, live streaming shows and stuff. I was like, "I got to set my game up." So, I haven't made that leap yet to the DSLR, but I will. I'm on a Logitech, one of the models. I won't even lie because I'm not that tech-savvy. It was expensive for Logitech, so I bought it. I was like, "it's got to work." So, yeah. So, that's where I'm at. I agree heavily. I think it comes down to, because we get asked it and I know you guys get asked, it comes down to what you can afford at the moment. Then always trying to push the limits of production value. Right? My background was a wall. It was just like random yellow wall, and now I have a giant green screen wallpaper now. So, now, I can be wherever I want which is a concert. That's where I want to be, and that's where I'm going to be.

Brian Kelly:
You're the one on the stage, brother. Not the audience.

Dylan Shinholser:
No, I'm actually the guy behind the stage. I never want to be this. It's actually weird for me to be in front of people. I'm the guy behind the stage telling people to get on the stage.

Brian Kelly:
Pushing them forward. Well, you do a good job, Dylan. I wouldn't know any different. Maybe your calling is to step out from behind and be on front more often.

Dylan Shinholser:
We will see. Twenty twenty-one has a lot of stuff, and I've got a long way to go. I got super bored in twenty-twenty so I might as well talk.

Brian Kelly:
I've gotten to know you a little bit over time, and you've got a great personality. I think you need to shine in front of more people. That's my humble opinion.

Dylan Shinholser:
I appreciate that.

In the front, not behind the scenes. It's okay to be behind the scenes on occasion, but someone like you with your personality and your integrity, your character...get out there, buddy. It's a disservice if we don't get to see you. Let me put it that way.

That's what a mentor of mine said. He was like, "dude, you're actually being selfish by not talking more and getting it out." Because like I said at the beginning, I only want to help more people create better experiences and events. Make them flow better and make them more money as humanly possible. At the end of the day, I just want to travel the world with cool people and do cool things. I've learned a lot, and a lot of people need some of that experience. So, I got a stern talking to by one of my mentors. He was like, "dude..." I was like, "alright, it's alright. I promise." I started live streaming then had to get better cameras, better lights going on. It's crazy up here in my little command center of all these different lights, webcams, and monitors. Everything you need to do to pull these shows off.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I love it. Christian, go ahead.

Christian Karasiewicz:
So, I want to throw something in there real quick. We talked about various types of cameras. If you're just getting started, use that built-in laptop, the webcam. So then you can take it up a notch. You can go to the Logitech. The C922. That's about, I think, a 60 to 70 dollar webcam. So, don't overpay by the way. It's about 60 to 70 dollars. Get it from Logitec, probably. If you find an astronomical price on Amazon, move up to like the Brio, for example. If your budget allows it, that's about one hundred fifty dollar camera. Then move up to a DSLR. For example, Julie's got that, the Sony 6000. I would also say if you happen to have a smartphone, this can be used as a webcam. Essentially, if you think about it, this is a thousand dollar camera. Because you paid a thousand dollars for this device of sorts, and this will give you some phenomenal picture quality. If you already have a smartphone and you don't have to have the latest iPhone, it could be pretty much any iPhone and Android phone. You just need an app such as one called,"Camo." There's one called,"Erion." So, there are lots of apps out there. Don't think like, "hey, I have to now go drop a bunch of money." Look at the phones you have lying around. Those are going to be great ways to fix your picture quality.

Julie Riley:
I've been going live since 2015, and I only had this camera last year.

Brian Kelly:
That's it. You keep reinvesting. I had a good friend of mine who were business partners. He said, I'll never forget it,"sales drive service". When you're making money, you're able to invest. You're able to up your game, and I love that. So many great points. You can just set a phone on a tripod and your camera will look better than many people's webcams. For sure. One of the things that I would recommend, this isn't just a plug StreamYard, is to get at least get the free plan. Do they need any more than the free plan to be part of the community, Julie?

Julie Riley:
No. They can come to join the community even if they're just getting started into streaming. We do like everybody to have the free plan so they have an understanding, but we'll still let you in. Agree to the rules. That's the big thing. Yeah, come join the StreamYard community. It's really a "stream yard" community.

Brian Kelly:
It's a very valuable place because questions like what Christian just addressed are often asked (What do I need?). I'm just starting. I'm a newbie. I see that so much in there. What can you do to help with a camera or microphone or computer? You can go there if you have those questions and ask, and the community will fill in the blanks wonderfully well because they're a great bunch of people. Just like Tim down there who's gotten pushed to the side for a while. So, Tim, is this your first camera that you've been using for live streaming so far? Did you have one before it?

Timothy McNeely:
Yeah, right. I started with just an HD one. Right. Logitech and then jumped up to the Brio. Been happy with that so far. But, you know, it's interesting how the game keeps growing again. That's the thing, right? Just get started! Just do this. I started with just using zoom and recording those for my interviews, and then I realized (that) I need a better platform. I need a way to kind of do that live production. Now I'm doing Stream Yard and got intros. Just get started with whatever you've got and kind of build that proof of concept. You know, I recently just upgraded my lights because I bought the cheapest lights I could at first. I just wanted to do something, and done is better than not done a lot of times.

Brian Kelly:
I totally agree with everything you just said and like what Christian was saying. If you're going to put money into anything, make it the audio side of things first when you upgrade. I was fortunate. I started over nine years ago streaming live. This is a DSLR. Not a DSLR. Good grief, XLR microphone. It's old school. It's not even USB. So I plug it into a mixer board, and from there into my computer. I've used it for years. It's been just amazing. I've never had to do anything with my sound as a result. For you, there are great USB alternatives now. Oh my gosh, there are so many out there. Someone like Christian could probably point you in the right way. Someone like the StreamYard community could push you in the right way and tell you,"these are the ones". I have a connection with the guy who is a sound expert. I've never heard of this before. He has a studio that does 4D sound. I don't even know what that means. Four dementional?

Christian Karasiewicz:
Sweet.

I don't know what that means, audibly. He was telling me about speakers in the ceiling. I'm like, holy moly,. You don't need that obviously for a talk show like this, but think about the possibilities and have fun with it. The bottom line is, when you go on and go live. Enjoy yourself. I'm trying to do that a little bit with these fine people tonight. Thankfully, they're still here with me. I haven't upset them too great, especially Christian. I keep picking on him. Poor guy. I appreciate you all, and it's okay to have fun on your show. Would you guys agree with that? Is it okay to have a little bit of fun?

Julie Riley:
One hundred percent. If you're having fun, your audience is going to be having fun with you.

If you're not having fun... I don't believe in doing anything that I don't find fun. It's a life motto of mine. If I don't want to do it, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Like you said, Julie. If you're not having fun with it, then how in the world do you expect the viewers to want to have fun or engage or interact? It starts with you.

Brian Kelly:
Absolutely, absolutely. One of the things I wanted to pivot to is something I'm deeply interested in because the product that came up earlier when I did the quick ads spot. I like to solve the pain points that people are having in their live streaming experiences. I'm curious. I'll bet, Julie and Christian, you guys have seen and heard a lot about that. I actually had a team member of mine from my company put a poll up in the form of a meme, a graphic. What's the right word? I am having trouble with words these days. It's an infograph. That's it. Simple. I was a little bit shocked by the result, but I was just curious what you guys think. What are the biggest pain points you're seeing? (Either) that you're having individually. Tim, if you have that as well. Dylan as well. Dylan, you probably hear about a bunch of it as well. What are the pain points you are seeing come back over and over and over again? I'm having a horrible time trying to find another guest on my show if they're interview style, or the tech is just blowing my mind. Even though StreamYard is so simple. I'm having trouble with x, y, z. Let's just go around the horn. Dylan, if you don't mind, I put you on the spot. Can you think of any of those pain points that keep coming up over and over again?

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. The biggest thing I see is they underestimate what it does take. I totally agree. Why I promote StreamYard to our clients and everyone I possibly can is because of the ease of use. People go into it and think shows are just like setting up the webcam, and they can be. Setting up the webcam and just talking. Right? There's a lot of back end stuff to this. These shows and I'm learning that as doing my own now. I'm like, holy cow, I'm about to hire fifteen people because this is absurd. But, yeah. I think that's the biggest thing that I see is underestimating it, but also at the same time, they overcomplicate it. They have to think (that) they have to have all these bells and whistles and seventeen thousand cameras and two million dollar microphones. It goes back to our first point of "just do it". It doesn't need to be overcomplicated, but understand going into it, there is some work that takes and understand that you do have to respect what it takes to put these on. At the same time, don't overcomplicate it. It's funny how people work. They overestimate or underestimate it, but then heavily overcomplicate it at the same time. I think that's the biggest one I see.

Brian Kelly:
I'm so glad you brought that up. I've said this so many times, people don't realize what goes on behind the scenes before the show even comes on live for that episode. The amount of time and effort. If you want to do a live show that's of quality and represent yourself and your brand in a way that you want it to be represented professionally. It takes a good amount of work for every single show. That's why I automated nearly every process (that) I use now. It took time to get there, but you can use a team. You can get a team. Like you said, Dylan, to also help out. For me, it's all about quality, and more time is spent before the show by far than the show itself. After the show is over, another good deal of time is spent. That is in the minor edits, the repurposing, the marketing, and everything else that goes beyond. The live show is this tiny window of time, and it's the fun is part of it by the way. When you have everything automated, the rest is not "not fun" because you're not doing it. It's all automated, but definitely great. Thank you for that. Julie, what has been some of the big p.. sorry to wake you up there. What have been some of the big pain points? You are wide awake. I just starttled you. You've seen over and over, I bet you've seen a bunch of them.

Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh. So many, you know, especially because I'm approving all of the comments that are coming into the group. I think one of the huge ones is that the hesitation of people who believe that they have to have everything perfect. That they have to have all of the backdrops, the overlays, the banners, the super expensive microphone, and the super expensive camera. That they have it. The room behind them is messy. They haven't thought about turning to just a blank wall because they're like, "well, then I don't have a fancy studio set up." They get to this point where they're trying to create perfection, and perfection is a fairy tale. It doesn't exist. There is no such thing as perfection. There is, again, where Dylan said the overcomplicating it. They've got to really just slow down and go, "what do I need to get this process going?" What is the minimum to make it happen? From there, then I can then build on it, and build on it each week. Go, "okay, I got live. I got the first one out. I got the jitters out. I hate the way I sound." When I had my agency, I would tell my clients. They'd be like, "I can't stand the way I sound." I'm like, nobody likes the way (that) they sound. There's actually, and I say this all the time, there's a term for it that is a term for not liking the sound of your own voice. I tell people, you have to get over that fear. They're like,"I don't look good on camera, I don't know how to be on camera." The other thing I tell people is to set up a fake Facebook group with nobody else in it but you. Go live in there a bunch of times and just get those jitters out. Get that feeling of pressing the button and going live. Then invite your husband in, your sister, your mother, or whoever. Somebody so that you're talking to somebody. From there, build up each time. As we said with the cameras, again, you can you can slowly build. You can slowly add in the overlays. You can slowly add in the backgrounds.

Brian Kelly:
My goodness! I absolutely love it. I have my own Facebook group that I use just for that. Nothing more. I go in there, and I test things for StreamYard and other things in there. I go live in there because there's no substitute for going live. We've got more buttons to click, and things kind of change their arrangement just a little bit in the window. If you practiced it 20 times without going live, then you go live you're going to go, "what the heck just happened?" I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. That was perfect. Perfect advice. I love that. We've got a comment coming in or two or three. Yeah. Kelly, crucial. Kruschel. Sorry if I got that wrong.

Dylan Shinholser:
Kelly Kruschel. It's Kruschel. She said she's on my team. She's a friend. Hey, we've got a supporter.

Brian Kelly:
Love it. Love it. Then Fran Jesse, I know her. I'm getting ready to make my first video essentially input. Yeah. Reach out, Fran. We're friends. I will give you assistance in any way you want because this is the greatest this is the greatest avenue for media on the planet, in my humble opinion, for so many reasons. One is people get to see you. I love clubhouse. It's also phenomenal in different ways, but people get to see you. They get to interact with you. They can engage with you, and they get to see your essence. It doesn't cost you, the studio owner, studio time. If you do this in the old days when you have to go to a television studio and you want to do a show, it would cost you thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars just to use the studio. Let alone get the media time to put it up on a television station. We're living in wonderful times. It's the greatest time to be alive, in my humble opinion. I'm a tech geek. I'm not young anymore. I'm fifty six, but I can't wait for the rest of what my life has to hold. Yes. You're welcome, Fran. Any time. Wonderful. Wonderful. Alright. Where were we? I got all messed up and loving myself there. We're going to have fun. I'm being real. This is like... I don't know. I'm the most relaxed (that) I've been in a long time with everything that went on today. It was one of those weird, everything-going crazy days. I feel like I'm at home with you guys. That's why.

Dylan Shinholser:
It's been one of those years.

Brian Kelly:
Thank God that last one is over.

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, yeah. Sure.

Brian Kelly:
So, okay. Pain point. Let's go back around one more. Tim, what do you have?

Timothy McNeely:
Yeah. When I first started doing this, my whole goal was to get out there and to talk to the different experts in the different areas of the challenges that my my clients face. I started off as an interview show and just using Zoom to record the video. Then all of a sudden I had the video. Now I had to put an intro in. I had to put an exit in. I had to extract the audio so I could do the podcast. My team members and myself were spinning our wheels. Just trying to really kind of create a workflow around the creation of this content so we could get the message out and help people with their challenges. For me, all of a sudden, the revelation was (that) I can do this live. I can have people type in (and) ask comments as I'm doing the show. Not only that, from start to finish, I can produce the whole thing going live. Right? You go live. You can play an intro now. You can throw in little commercial breaks. You can throw in the outro, and then it's done. Download the audio. You throw it up, and now you've got your podcast. You don't have to upload video to YouTube and Facebook and LinkedIn. It's done for you now, automatically. So really my biggest pain point was just the production side of things and putting everything together so that I could keep talking to people and doing the fun part. Right? I don't want to get caught up in all the details of making this. I want to talk to people, learn, and share that knowledge. Really, a lot of the pain point, just using StreamYard has really been absolved because it's a turn-key easy to use platform.

Brian Kelly:
Amen to all of that brother. Here's the key for everyone that's ever going to do a live show or has done one. The most important part is that you show up and you be the talent. That means you need to be dedicated mentally toward what the task is at hand. If I have too many things going on, like production-wise, which I used to when I didn't automate things. That's in the back of my mind. Did I dot every "i"? Did I cross every "t"? What's going to screw up on this show? Versus showing up fully for my guest. Being there for them. Getting out of myself and my own business and being present for the other person, that's what I'm about. Lifting up the other people, that's what my show's about. It's important to me.

Timothy McNeely:
Actually, if I can touch on that talent piece, Brian? I think he brought something up so important for everyone listening to this. If you're doing any kind of a show where you're interviewing people, chances are (that) the person you're talking to (is) a little bit uncomfortable. Your job, as the talent, is to spend some time before the show really crafting what it's going to look like. What direction are you going to go in? You want to make that person you're talking to look like a star. The more you can rehearse with them and put them at ease, you're going to end up with a much, much better show. Because you've taken a little bit of time to make sure that (the) other person is going to shine just as bright as you do. So, take that time to work with your guests beforehand through interview guides, through little questionnaires. So that you can help prep them, to keep them on a thread, and you can really help them deliver their message. Most people are not trained professional speakers. They just aren't. I've hired some of the best speaking coaches to help me develop messages, stay on topic, and learn how to tell stories. People don't invest time, energy, and effort to do that. You can help them do that through a briefing before you start your live with them.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. That's why I was saying before, I do a thirty-minute preshow. All of us were on here for 30 minutes getting to know each other, making sure all the tech was good, doing some checkout. You were talking about people being nervous and stuff. That's why I'm riding Christian so hard with all these jokes and stuff because it broke his nervousness. You can see his sweating. I am so kidding. This guy's raw. He's a rock. He's awesome. He's a pro. I love this guy, man. I always pick on the quiet ones. I don't know why that is. Christian, man, you're bringing massive value. All kidding aside, you're very experienced. You're matched for what you do. You've said already so many amazing things. What about you, brother?

Christian Karasiewicz:
I'd say this. I think a couple of the pain points. I think one is people want to ask, "how do I get better at my live stream?" I think (that) the first thing is practice. To Julie's point, I think you mentioned having overlays, backgrounds, and all this other stuff. Look at it like this. You want to show your audience as well while you're helping them. You're doing this with them. You have everything at the same time, and you're trying to make everything perfect. Your audience is going to be like, "I'm not going to stick around this person because they've done such a good job already. I won't ever get to that point". They start having that self-doubt. The key thing is going to be practice. You don't have to have every single one of the overlays. Maybe start with the the intro or the thumbnail, and maybe you have an outro for example. (Those are) the first two things you do. As you build the show, then you can add segment graphics. You can add videos. So, you can scale it, but you don't have to have so much at one time because then it's just too overwhelming. That's point number one. Pain point number two is that people, for some reason, think that they're going to immediately be able to monetize their live stream. I say pain point because everybody's like, "oh, I bought all that equipment." Now, you've got to figure out how to pay for all that equipment, you know? If you're struggling already with your business and growing it, then you're not going to immediately monetize live stream. You have to have an audience. You know, you have to build that community. When you go live, they're tuning in because (of) the social platforms. They want to see that you're bringing viewers, they want to see engagement. So, point number two is monetizing your live stream. There are ways to do that, but don't always set out with monetization being number one. It could take a couple of years to monetize. So, get started. Build on it, then make those investments as your business is growing. Yes, mic drop. Yes.

Dylan Shinholser:
Do you have that mic? Just a mic drop? Because I might need to get one.

Brian Kelly:
It's actually super.

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, super real.

Christian Karasiewicz:
That's pretty cool, actually.

Julie Riley:
I like that.

Brian Kelly:
It's actually part of a magic trick that you put in a paper bag. It's a long story, but I found one more affordable that would not break my keyboard because that's what it landed on. You didn't hear it. Oh, my gosh. Golden nuggets there, as usual, from Christian who I give a lot of hard time to. I'm going to stop because you're amazing dude, and I don't want to get mad at me. I want you to be my friend. So many great things. So, you said two years. I was like, wow. I was watching an interview. How many of you have heard of Lewis Howes? Former professional football player and turned incredible entrepreneur. He's all over the place. He was being interviewed, and the guy interviewing him asked him a question. He said, "so, Lewis, if someone came to you, and they were talking about the fact they wanted to start a podcast. Now, we're talking just the audio version. That's what a podcast really is for everyone that may not know it's audio-only. Not video, even though they're going that way." He said, "well, here's what I'd tell them. First, you got to actually be consistent. Whenever you decide to do it, do it at that same day and that same time every week or multiple times a week. Whatever that happens to be. Number two, more importantly. You must commit yourself to doing that for at least, the magic number, two years. If they are not willing to do that, I would tell them, don't even get started." We didn't talk about monetization. None of that was discussed during this Q&A. That was telling. Who was I talking about this earlier with earlier today? It's not necessarily about monetizing. It's about building your platform, and I wanted to add to that. It took me in two years. I was just hitting that moment in time of my live show. That's when the momentum started. He was spot on, and so are you, Christian, about the two years. Then using a certain strategy (that) I use, I continually ask for referrals in a certain way. I eventually landed the one and only Les Brown. Some of you know who that is. Some of you don't. I've noticed some don't and Im like,"what rock are you living under?" He's amazing, and he's been on my show. Because of that, the two-year commitment is my point. Not talking about monetization. Then what I found after doing this for two years and striving for excellence all the time in every facet, I'm talking about the preshow communication with upcoming guests and the setup and the prep that they all go through and my system makes sure they do. The show itself and then after the show, all the post-production, everything that goes into it. Once you have that, people notice and my show, without my intending it to be, became an incredible, powerful lead magnet for my business. Focus, just as Christian was stating so properly, does definitely, positively impact your business. If you do it right. You do it high quality, and again, within reason within the resources you have. Go ahead, Christian.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I was going to say. That's another point that people look at, and they want to generate revenue off of it. That revenue may not be actual money upfront. It may end up being (help) (to) drive more leads to my website. It's not necessarily driving more people to my social channels. You're following is... It's OK. That's not going to necessarily grow your business because you had five more followers on Instagram or something like that. It's potentially getting them back to your website, which can be an opportunity for them to schedule a coaching call with you, maybe buy a product from you, learn from you for example. You're not going to get every single person to become a customer, but you're going to be able to use it to generate more leads.

Brian Kelly:
Totally, totally true.

Dylan Shinholser:
That's why I do it.

Brian Kelly:
You see on the top of this screen "streaming live on" and then five. We're doing it to eight right now or seven right now. "Listen-on" down below. On the bottom, there's actually twenty five of those like us could fit them all. Roku now was on Fire TV. Look, you're not making money from those, but here's what happened. How many of you have heard of Kevin Harrington? Shark Tank? Original Shark Tank? He has a partner named, "Seth Green", and they do a podcast together. They've been doing it for years now. They have five-hundred plus episodes. We got introduced, Seth and I. I met Kevin. We shared the stage once. I'm not name-dropping, but yes, I am. It was awesome, and it was fun. Seth reached out. We were connected by someone else. We were introduced, and Seth did his own homework. He came back, we literally talked on Zoom, and he says, "wow, I did some research. I looked you up and, my God, you're everywhere." I just wanted to say, "yeah, that's right." So, you want to get out there. That's why, shameless plug, I call it, "carpet bomb marketing". You saturate with everything you've got within reason. Right? If you can automate it, it can be near or completely free. So just do it. Why not add it to your arsenal? So, it works. Just be consistent to a minimum of two years. Get in touch with people like Julie, Christian, Tim, and Dylan. You might make that even quicker than two years. I'll direct you to the shortcuts that many of us did by trial and error.

Timothy McNeely:
Touching on the monetization piece, a good friend of mine runs one of the top coaching consultancies out there. Right. Very, very successful. Runs a great podcast, great show. I ask him one day. I said, "have you need any money doing your podcast?" He thought for a second. He says, "naw, I've actually lost money doing it. The relationships that I've made...I've made millions off (of) that." If you approach it from that standpoint... There's different goals, but I always approach, you know, what's the end result? What are you looking for out of your show? Why are you doing it? That's how you can measure the success of it. Is it helping you achieve whatever goals you set for yourself?

Brian Kelly:
Totally agree. It's very similar. Isn't it? To writing a book? I'm holding up another namedrop. Yes, it's very similar to writing your own book. Because a lot of people want to write a book and make a living off of the sales of the book. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, most of the time it just doesn't happen that way. If anyone comes up to you and you're talking to them... During the course of conversation, maybe you ask them what they've been up to? Or, hey, I've authored a book. The moment they say that, in your eyes, do they not lift up in an influence in your mind? Right then and there? Instantly. It builds authority. That's exactly what this live show, and live shows like it, are doing. When you're giving evidence of it by spitting it out to all of these platforms, there's no way people can't find you and know that you're serious. You know, it's showing that you have a commitment level. It's showing that you have a quality level of professionalism. It's not about the show itself. It's like, well, if I do business with that person, or will I... Will I want to do business that person? If they're professional. Yes. If they put on a shoddy show, they might give me shoddy service. If I do business with them. Does that make sense? People want to (be) representing yourself in the best. Do it the best you can, but do it. Please, don't delay. Don't try to be perfect. You heard everybody talk. Go ahead, Dylan. You had something?

Dylan Shinholser:
Well, yeah. There's indirect ways to make money with shows, live streams, and of course direct (ways). Right. Direct is selling sponsorships, ad-space, all that good stuff. The indirect monetization is so much more powerful. When I do shows or when I hop on shows or anything, it's literally just to build a top-down awareness of myself. I just want people to know what Dylan Shinholser is. Then that way, because I do multiple things, I'm never trying to sell one product at any given time. I'm trying to sell myself, and what it does is it gives me that outlet to do it. Then if you're hosting a show. Right? This maybe goes into some other topics around how to market and things like that. It's a powerful relationship tool because when you can open your platform to other people that you're looking to connect with. I'm in the business of working with influencers and throwing their events. Well, the best way to connect was get them on my show. It gave me a reason to reach out that wasn't pitchy or sales. It was more or less. Hey, man, I just want to give you an outlet, because I think what you talk about is cool. Tell my people about it. After the show, I was like, "hey, man, what are you doing next Tuesday? I need a speaker." Or "hey, man. I have some ideas (that) I want to pitch you or (some) things. They're more receptive. So, I always do shows and things not about the direct money I get, but the indirect thing. It's the indirect impact that I get from relationships, or people sharing my stuff out and people go, oh man, he sounds semi-intelligent unless they're watching this. Then then they'll go, okay, great. Let me go over to this platform that he runs with this business that he does or whatever because he sounded halfway intelligent on that show. Right? So, I think the indirect monetization is what most people don't... They don't get that the instant gratification of like that five thousand dollars sponsorship check. When I forgo that and go on to bring on much more money on the backend with the people I connect with, in the top influence that I get.

Brian Kelly:
The magic word there was "relationship".

Dylan Shinholser:
Relationships all day, every day. That's all I do- is build relationships, and how can I do it? Do more shows like this. Can I get it out? You're on like forty-two different podcast or outlets here, right? Every one of those. Every time you put a show on it, you're building a relationship with someone on that platform. Even if it's just you talking, and they're listening. You're building that relationship. Everything (that) I do, is built on: how can I develop relationships? Live streams is just an amazing way to do so.

Brian Kelly:
Posting them is one thing. Right? That's a great thing. What I learned through a podcasting expert friend of mine is the maybe not as equally important, but possibly greater importance, is getting on other people's shows. That includes audio podcasts only. He explained how his business skyrocketed when he did what he called, "podcast guest marathons". He would have someone get him booked in his team. He would carve out three days and just say get as many as you can for me. He'd do that. Then when they ask him about how to get in contact with him... This is the gold right here... It's not go to my Facebook page and look up my name and message me. He would tell them to go to his podcast website and from there to subscribe. Now he's building a following. It's genius. It's so genius. I just want to impart that. The cool thing, though, is when you're hosting a high-quality live show that opens the door for you to be a guest on many more.

Dylan Shinholser:
Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Being a guest is what goes back to the authority building. Right? If I can build my authority, I build my influence. If I do have something to sell... If I'm trying to build my brand or whatever it is or I'm just trying to get to as many people as possible to talk about events with them... That authority I call it, "authority hacking", being able to get them on your show. That'll get your show in front of their audience, and then going on to other shows helps you develop your authority. It's like writing a book. I was I'm a guest on this show, this show, this show. It's like writing a book. Your authority starts to become a little bit more when you're leveraging their influence. Right? When you're a guest on the show, if that show has a following, you becoming a guest on that show gives you authority because now you have the validation of the host that everyone is following and love. So, I can authority hack by getting on other people's shows.

Brian Kelly:
It leverges. You have a whole new tribe watching and interacting with you as well. I mean, this is one of the most powerful things people can use. If they just get out of that rut of trying to find a way to make money with it directly, that's when they'll see the real value come through. It's about building relationships. It's long-term. Not short, quick kill. I got to make a commission and run. It's build a relationship. Establish it. If you go into this with the mindset of it not being for directly making money, I personally think you have greater success. The long-term plays always work better than the short-term. Short-term works can work, but they're temporary. The long-term is a lot more permanent and lasting. Just think of all the wonderful bread crumbs you're leaving throughout the world. Through all the venues and platforms we've been talking about. In speaking terms, if you're on stage, that's what we call a "stage swap". Where you would be a guest on someone else's stage in return for them saying, "okay, but I'm going to do the opposite." We'll have you on our as well. The same thing with podcasts and live video. It works really great. Just make sure they're a fit.

Dylan Shinholser:
They've got to fit. (It's) got to makes sense.

Brian Kelly:
Both ways. Yeah.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I want to add something real quick to that. If you are consistently going live, so it's great to be consistent, go live on a regular basis, but also think about the long game. It's a couple of years, for example. Also, don't be afraid to be making changes and adjustments as things are moving along. It's not about substituting equipment. It's about looking at your process. For example, you mentioned Brian, that you have automation on some of the things. Think of smarter ways to take bigger jumps ahead. If I have to send someone an email, and I'm like, "hey, do you want to be on my show?" Then I have to deal with the whole back and forth. Well, okay. Yeah. What time? Then I have to send everything back. There are tools out there like Calendly, Harmonizely. You can send a calendar link to somebody and they can only book a certain slot for example and vice versa. This takes out the guesswork out of having to do all that back and forth. That's a way to work smarter because now you want to book people for your show. You send them one link. The person then doesn't have to send you a message back, and you can even use it to collect feedback for your show questions. There's not a lot of back-and-forth and downtime.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, absolutely. I do that as well, and it's a godsend. I could not do what I'm doing. I would not do what I'm doing without the automation part of it. I have an onboarding form. You guys all... Most, not all of you went through it, but that was a mini version. Julie, you went through the big version. I then changed it right after I saw that. Like you said, make adjustments. That's what I did. I'm constantly doing that. Improving. I have a document automatically generated in Google Docs with your bio. The answer you had to why you think you would bring value to the show. Also, all the questions you chose to be asked for the show. Some of you didn't see that. So everything's done. The Q&A part used to take hours and hours doing manually. Now I just give them thirty-eight questions. Choose ten, and we're good. You tick the box. You choose what I'm going to ask you. (I) just made it a system, and it has worked beautifully. I don't even use the ten questions hardly. I use maybe the first three. Then we go organically like we've been doing tonight. My God, it's six twenty-nine! Are you kidding me? I'm having too much fun. Real quick. I know everyone that came on in the beginning. You heard this thing about a prize. We're going to do that real quick, and we'll come back and wrap it up. For those of you watching, remember in the beginning I said, "take notes and don't go clicking away and stuff like that"? Now I think Dylan, Julie, Tim, and Christian will also give you permission to do what I'm saying, and that is take out your phone. Take your gaze away from us for just a moment, but you'll still have to look back. Yes, yes. You can do this too. Please, do. What I want you to do....

Dylan Shinholser:
I need a vacation.

This is how you can enter to win a five-night stay at a five-star luxury resort of your choosing. Here's what you do. Take out your message app on your phone. Fire that up- your text message app. Where you would type in the name of the person normally that you're going to text. Instead, put in this number: three, one, four, six, six five-they're all doing it behind the scenes- one, seven, six, seven. I love this. Three, one, four, six, six, five, one, seven, six, seven. If you're watching this and you're not a guest, go ahead and write this down because I gonna take the screen down. I want you to get it. This will be open until the end of the evening. Where you actually put in the message... Where you might put emojis, those kinds of things, not emojis, just two words separated by a dash or a hyphen. Those words are peak (P-E-A-K) dash Vacation (V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N). All together. No spaces. Peak vacation. Send it off, then monitor your phone. You're going to get an automated response back asking you for your email address, and that will then officially enter you into the contest. Compliments of The Big Insider Secrets. Our buddies, Jason Nash, the owner. Dear friend of mine who lets us give this away every single week. Every show, actually. We do more than one a week now on average. So go ahead, get that entered. I can't wait to see who's going to win that. You're going to be asked later, you don't have to if you're the winner, to provide your Facebook information. Just your profile so we can say congrats and give you a high-five online and get others to come watch the show. To be honest, that's another strategy. We're just rolling back the curtain. That's why we do it this way. You can offer incentives like that. My friend has offered that to anyone who is my friend. If you're not my friend, you don't get it. If you're on as part of the panel here, they're all my friends. Christian may differ on that opinion, but I think he's my friend.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm your friend. Yes.

Brian Kelly:
Ok, good. I picked on you so hard. I apologize, but you're just you're a fun guy. I appreciate you for putting up with it. I definitely do stuff like that. Implement it and announce it in the beginning. That helps retention. I'm just pulling back the curtain for everybody. You can do different things like that. Having multiple people, I noticed, is also a little better than just one every single time. So, mix it up now and then. Alright. I know we're a little bit over, but I want to give you each another chance for a final parting tip. Anything you want on live streaming. It could be hardware, software, how you smile, what bling you wear, don't wear, your makeup. I'm wearing some, by the way, just so the guys know. Yeah, I don't know what they call it. It's not like guy up.. guy-liner, but it's like makeup. I know. That was bad.

Dylan Shinholser:
I haven't heard of that one.

Brian Kelly:
I just did that. I'm not a young fart anymore. Anyway. So, Dylan, we'll do the same thing. Go around the horn. What would be one final quick tip, or parting words of advice, you can give our wonderful viewing and listening audience?

Dylan Shinholser:
Keep it simple stupid. Don't overcomplicate it. There's things that you need to do and standards you need to meet. At the end of the day, keep it simple stupid will allow you to not overcomplicated it (and) get overwhelmed. Once you get overwhelmed, it's a wash. I would just say as a life advice, event advice, live stream advice, just keep it simple stupid and keep it moving.

Brian Kelly:
Real quick, I got to interject on that. Just so people know that that comes from an acronym K.I.S.S. So we're not calling everybody stupid, for one.

Dylan Shinholser:
Well...

Brian Kelly:
That was great. I have a friend who is Sicilian in nature, and he did this from the stage. He talked about it, and he brought up the whole thing. We're talking about doing it without complicating it. He goes, "It's like K.I.S.S. Who knows what K.I.S.S means?" Someone raised their hands. They said, "keep it simple, stupid". He goes,"Oh, no, no. It's keep it simple Sicilian." He lighten the load of the stupid part. I thought that was cool. Sorry, Julie, what is your parting tip?

Julie Riley:
You know, you're going to have to get started at some point. In order to do that, you're going to have to get over your fear. Go practice. Get those done, but also go watch and find other people that you resonate with their live shows. Start to take pieces from each of those. Now, obviously, you cannot go copy their live show and recreate it. You can pull little things from multiple different people's live shows that you like and that resonate with you. If you're comfortable and things are resonating with you, you're going to exude that comfort and that confidence out to the rest of the world.

Brian Kelly:
I love it. I love it. Alright. The man, the myth, the legend, Timothy J. McNeely. What is your final parting word of advice?

Timothy McNeely:
I'm going to close with a story. The purpose of this story is to illustrate the power of doing a show. July 20th, 1969, the first man walked on the moon. He left his footprints up there. On the moon, there's no wind. There's no rain. There's no weather, and those footprints today in twenty twenty-one look exactly like they did in nineteen sixty-nine. They're going to be exactly the same a million years from now. You too. You leave footprints on the hearts and the minds of everyone that you come in contact with. In streaming and having a platform, that's your opportunity to leave your footprints and to have an impact on people. Get clear about what your message is. What's the impact you want to have? If you do that, all of the other puzzle pieces are going to fall in place for you.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, baby. Okay, I've got to do it. I've got to do it. That was amazing.

Dylan Shinholser:
You have to get one of the little lower third animation gifts that are possible here on StreamYard. It's just a mic drop every time someone does one.

Brian Kelly:
Not nearly as much fun though, bro.

Christian Karasiewicz:
That's true. Fair. Very fair. I'll give it to you. I've got to get me one of those little squishy microphones.

Brian Kelly:
A little sound effect like I just broke my desk or something. That would be good. Alright, Christian, you've had a long time to think about it now. No pressure, but this better be a good one. I'm kidding. What do you have?

Christian Karasiewicz:
Let's see. The best piece of advice, I think, would be don't have gas or gear acquisition syndrome. You're going to watch people doing their live streams, and they're going to go and be like, "hey, I got to get that mic because this person upgraded." Oh, they got a new webcam. Remember? If you develop a plan, the whole thing is work the plan.. work the system. It's great (that) somebody else got some equipment, but it doesn't mean that you need to go out and get that yourself as well. Remember, work your plan. When you get to the certain points, maybe set that as a milestone. If I get to a certain number of viewers, for example, or a certain number of subscribers on a channel, then I might need to upgrade something. Don't be buying stuff just because someone else is doing so.

Brian Kelly:
Sales drive service. I love it. You guys are amazing. Thank you so much for coming on. Everyone who watched live. Thank you for coming on. Those of you that watched on the recording. Thank you for spending your valuable time with us, and those listening on the podcast. The same goes for you. Definitely. I hope you took a lot of notes because these are experts in the field. They are giving their value, their heart, their experience. They only charged me two-hundred thousand dollars for it. It's really been a deal. I'm kidding. They charged me nothing. You got incredible value from these amazing, amazing professionals. I can't thank you all enough. I appreciate you Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. Thank you from the bottom of my heart with all seriousness. I know we had some fun tonight. Thank you, Christian, so much for letting me pick on you so hard. You've been a great guy. I look forward to getting to know each and every one of you at a deeper level. If you're open to that after tonight. Appreciate you all. On behalf of these amazing people, that's it. We're out. My name is Brian Kelly. I'm the host of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Until next time we will see you. Be blessed. So long for now.

Narrator :
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