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Brian Kelly:
So here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step. Forward. Only to fall two steps back? We are dedicated. Determined. And driven. How do we finally break through And with that is the question. This podcast will give you the. My name is Brian. This. The Mind Body Business Show. Hey, welcome to the show. My goodness. My microphone muted on me. Thank you, Michael, for letting me know he's sitting in the background. My goodness. So we have a fantastic show for you tonight. Michael Whitehouse, who I just referred to, is in the house. He'll be in here in just a moment. I cannot wait for you to meet this gentleman. Very, very astute, wise and experienced businessman. He has recently shifted not his entire business model, but his focus on what he's working on in his business. And I can't wait to peel back the curtain, so to speak, and ask him more questions about why he decided to do that, how it's working for him, what is he doing now? And I already know most of those answers, but I can't wait to share them with you. And it's going to be a great, great show because what he does now literally is a fit for anyone who is an entrepreneur or a marketer or a business person, period. And so listen closely to what he has to say and the kind of success he's already had in this great industry that he has embarked into. And so that is coming up very, very soon. The Mind Body Business show is a show that I had designed with you in mind. It is all about interviewing high impact, very successful entrepreneurs and business people like Michael to give you what you need to simply model their success. So simply listen to what Michael says tonight. Don't just listen, though. I implore upon you. Take notes, take lots of notes, ask questions. It's interactive. You can ask questions if you're watching on Facebook and YouTube, LinkedIn, and if you're not on any of those, then go to the mind body business show com and be sure to register for the next upcoming show, because when you do that, you'll be getting an email with a link to go directly to join us live and comment and join in.
Brian Kelly:
So fantastic stuff coming up. And so the Mind Body business show is all about bringing out successful entrepreneurs that what I found over the course of ten years of studying only successful people is that three things were very common to all of these individuals who I reached out to study. There are people that were my mentors. They were others that were authors, some that are still living, some that aren't. But these three things kept bubbling up to the top. And those three things are, you probably guessed it, the very title of this show, Mind, Body and Business Mind is about each of these individuals to a person had a very, very and some have that are still at us very positive, very powerful. But the most important aspect I found was flexible mindset flexible able to be flexible. Body literally was about the fact that each of these successful individuals to a person took care of themselves physically and nutritionally. And business business is so multifaceted. My goodness, there are so many skill sets that one must master in order to build and then scale a thriving business. And that is what all of these successful people did. We'll talk about several of them here tonight. I kid you not. No doubt we will. Their skill sets. Like what? Like marketing, sales, team building, systematizing leadership. I could go on and on and on. And you just heard me say, Master, those skill sets like Brian. It takes a long time to master just one. And you're right. If you were thinking that the cool thing is if you master just one skill set and you focus on it first, the others will fall into place. And if anyone would like to know what that one is, well, I'll give you a hint. It was one of those I just rattled off here in just a moment ago. If you would like to know what that one is, let me know in the comments. Okay. I'm not going to teach you. It is the skill set of leadership, even if you don't yet have employees or VA's, start working on your leadership skills as if you're leading yourself.
Brian Kelly:
Talk about work on company culture, work on how are you going to deal with your people? Are you going to be one of those task masters that cracks a whip? Are you going to be someone who elevates people who are doing their best even though they make mistakes and all of those things that go with all the great leadership skills? There are great books out there. We won't go into all that right now. But that is what the Mind body business show is all about, is bringing on fantastic people like Michael Whitehouse. So you can take notes, then take action on those notes and watch your business grow and look some of that take action might actually end up being you and Michael connecting directly to go to the next level. I highly recommend it because you're going to see why. And so another important aspect about very successful people that I learned was that to a person they were also very avid readers of books. And so with that, I'm going to Segway very briefly, and then I promise we'll bring Michael on very briefly into a segment I affectionately call Bookmarks.
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Brian Kelly:
There it is. Reach your peak library. So one quick word of advice, and that is please do not go running off and clicking away on resources that are going to be spoken about here tonight. I know Michael has quite a few of himself. It happens every time. The same is with your peak library dot com. Rather than clicking away and checking it out on the side, just write it down, write it down, take notes and visit the resources. After the show is over, we're going to give away an incredible prize. For those of you that stay with us live to the end. Same thing with that one. You write it down and you enter. After the show is over. We'll be here to monitor the entries. So reach your peak library is literally a tool, a resource that I had put together and built because I myself was not an avid reader until about the age of 47, which is about 11 years ago. You all just did the math. And the thing is, I found that reading books is a life changing experience. It can and will change your life if you don't just read books but read the right books. And it's okay to read leisure and have fun read fiction. But if you're looking to build your business, then also dig into those books that will help you to build your business, to grow your business, to improve upon your relationship skills, to improve on sales and marketing team building, everything that goes with it. And so you'll see there are many in this library that these are actual books that I personally have read and I vet them. And so the reason for this resource is free. The books aren't free. You go to Amazon when you click those buttons, so you just paid the Amazon fee. It's not no big deal there, but it's here for you to have a collection of books that at least at least one other successful individual has vetted. Well, I got a frog in my throat there, and so there's no rhyme or reason to the order they're in here. There's they're not alphabetized. They're not by author, pretty much.
Brian Kelly:
So just look through it. The first book that jumps off the page and talks to you get it. And you don't have to get it from this site, get it from wherever you like to get your books. The whole purpose of this is just to give you a library, so to speak, like an index cards, and you go to whatever library you want to check it out or buy it and then read it and then take action on it. I always say, take action after you learn, learn, do teach. All right. That is it. I am excited. I want to bring this gentleman on so bad. So we're going to do this right now and hope that the video plays properly. Is time to bring on Mr. Michael Whitehouse. Get ready. You're going to enjoy this.
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Brian Kelly:
There we go. We've got Mr. Michael Whitehouse in the house. Mr. Whitehouse, how are you doing, my friend? So great to see you.
Michael Whitehouse:
I'm doing good. Listen, all that by, I don't like. I can't wait to meet this guest. He sounds amazing.
Brian Kelly:
Yes. Speaking of bio. Yeah, I'm going to introduce you here in just a moment. Officially and formally. We're going to get busy and have some fun. And right before I do that, let's check. I got a couple of comments, see if they're worthy. Are you on the I stuff? Yes. Maurice Evans. Yes, we are on I am on the I stuff. I don't know if we'll talk about that tonight, but the answer to that is yes. Thank you for bringing up a question and the.
Michael Whitehouse:
Name of Summit for me.
Brian Kelly:
What's that?
Michael Whitehouse:
I name a summit. We had the concept. I couldn't think of, like, what was catchy, and it just gave us 20 options. Like, there it is. Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
And. Oh, my gosh, No kidding. We could do literally not just one show, but many shows. Just on the topic of chat GPT and what it can do for you in your business. I've used it. I mean, all the queries that show up on the left when you're when you type them in, they show up on the left. Your history. I've got a scroll bar now because there's so dag on many of them. It's been a godsend. It's been phenomenal. But that's not the topics per se of the night. Before we move on, though, we do have a little bit of housekeeping to take care of. We do have a giveaway. I mentioned in the beginning. I want everybody to see that. So in a couple of minutes we'll let that run and then we'll bring Mr. Whitehouse back. And then I am going to I'm going to grill this man in a great way. You're going to love it. He's going to have fun. And you are, too. So hang tight and we'll be right back after that. Hey, if you're watching the Mind body business show live right now, then you will have the ability to win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort of your choosing, compliments of the big insider Secrets. What is it? It is a five night vacation stay to one of many destinations across the world. You can see as we go through this very quickly, there's some in Branson and Daytona Beach. These are in the United States, all over the United States, New Orleans, San Diego. There's also Mexico. There's also the UK and Argentina. I mean, it just keeps going on and on and on. Australia, at the end of this show, you will be given the ability to enter, to win. You must be watching this live. If you're not watching live, then head on over to the mind body business show com and register to receive automated notifications when we go live the next time. We do not spam, we do not even pitch any products or anything from that notification. It's just simply a way for you to know that we're alive.
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Brian Kelly:
Officially, formally. Welcome to the show, Michael Whitehouse. How are you doing tonight, my buddy?
Michael Whitehouse:
I'm I'm doing pretty good. Glad to be here.
Brian Kelly:
Whew. We're going to have some fun. We're going to go through a lot of things. I'm going to be talking faster than normal because I'm excited. I love I geek out on this stuff. I love everything there is to do with summits, with live video, anything that has to do with technology under the hood and the different pieces that go with it. But the real thing, the bottom line to it is the results that are generated from all of that. Yeah, it's fun. It's a shiny toy for me as a tech guy. But the real thing is what are the results at the end of the day? And Michael, after talking to you just before he came on the show, I cannot wait to share how it's working for you and your clients as we go forward. But what I'd like to do is start it off with talking a little bit about the base, the the foundation, the what we call the fundamentals in sports, right? The boring stuff normally, but they are the foundation for one success or lack thereof. And so I like to kind of hit there to kind of set the table, so to speak, so people can understand that a greater, deeper level where you're coming from and why you are as successful as you are. So parts of this show are about mind and others about body was about business. We don't literally go through each three of the three we hit and sprinkle some of them. And for you, I wanted to find out, let's go with the body. Like when it comes to staying fit and becoming fit or just not being sick because you're not moving, how important to you is physical fitness, not just for yourself and your personal life, but also your business?
Michael Whitehouse:
It's actually pretty vital to my business. I hired a personal trainer for business reasons a few years ago, shortly after my daughter was born. About eight years ago, I started having sciatica and according to experts, apparently. Carrying something like a car seat doesn't cause sciatica, it just aggravates it. So I was just subclinical before and then so went to the emergency room at one point. It was so bad. It was it was nearly debilitating. And so I went to a chiropractor, I went to a physical therapist. It got better, it got worse, it got better, it got worse. And finally I got to the point in my business where I could afford a personal trainer because I knew I needed to exercise. I also, you know, I get tired. Well, when I get tired, I can't do as much. If I was in better shape, if I was healthier, I'd have more energy, I would put more time in the calendar. So I went to the personal trainer, Colleen Davis, who I met because networking, because that's kind of what I do. And she was actually the first people I ever had on my podcast long before I could afford to hire her. So she gave me an actual training routine and I and I based it on what would I do? Because if I had to go to the gym every night at 5:00, I had been training karate. Karate. They, they the classes are at 5:00. Either wouldn't go or I'd go, but I'd be tired because 5:00 is the lowest energy I have in the whole day. So to try to get there at five as my daughter is coming home and like, I'm not going to do this, I'm not going to go to the gym, I can't maintain it, I need something I can do. So I told her, could we do a workout that I could do first thing in the morning that would take 20 minutes? She said, Sure. So I work out now seven days a week. First thing in the morning I get up, I drink black iced coffee, I do the workout. It's about 20 minutes. I feel good, I feel pumped, I feel energized and like I have.
Michael Whitehouse:
It's funny, if you if you've never been in shape and you start to get in shape, you start to do things like, check it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My wife's like, Yeah, I see it. I know. I'm like, Well, I'm excited. So yeah, my calves are amazing, but it's about having that, you know, being able to stand up and sit down, go up and down the stairs, easily not getting winded, running up and down the stairs, you know, those kinds of things is, is, is hugely powerful. But, but to, to tie in the mind into the body part, I'll kill two birds with one stone here for you that so with the with my sciatica I would occasionally have days where like I couldn't get up I actually remember is one one Easter. There's a service my daughter wanted to be on my shoulders. She was too big to be on my shoulders at that point. But she's like, Come on, Dad, just know a few minutes. Okay. Well, later that day, I'm like, Huh, That's a little bit, Oh, I can't walk anymore. And I ended up spending the day I went to the chiropractor. I go, No, I couldn't. It was Sunday. He didn't open till Monday. So I actually spent the day lying in my backyard, intentionally lying down, brought my iPad out there, and at the time, still entrepreneur. I'm working all the time. Well, my back's out, I can't get up. Guess I can't work. So I lay in the back yard, I watch some movies and it was. I, I remember intellectually it was a very painful day, but the impression I have was a very nice day, relaxing, watching movies, just lying there, doing a thing. And that's something I've really trained myself to do over the years is to to take things as they are. In 2020, hit oh, pandemic. So we're home now. Okay, cool. We're online. Online. Where are the opportunities here? You know, whatever happens, it's where are we? What happened? What are the opportunities? How do we deal with it and skip past the oh, is this happening? Oh, woe is me.
Michael Whitehouse:
Oh, this is so terrible. And just move right on and say, What's the opportunity here? What am I supposed to learn from this? What can I learn from this? And just be able to pivot? Because the less time you spend wallowing in self-pity and cursing the sky and the quicker you get to it, the more the quicker you're going to get to your your next opportunity.
Brian Kelly:
I love that. And I always say a lot of times you can either let your circumstances basically. Affect your attitude. Or you can let your attitude dictate your circumstances. And so it's so true. The thing is, the same thing is happening to everybody. But why are some rising above and more successful and the others are not? It's due to one thing. It's choice. We all have the same choice. How do we decide to react to these situations? I mean, I went through NLP training, Gosh has been well over a decade ago and it's been a life saving in so many ways, not just like saving me from dying, but saving my life from being one of just yuck. It's been phenomenal because of that, because of the mindset and learning that we have a choice and it's all about our attitude and my attitude. Before I learned NLP was in the toilet. It was horrible. And so it was like a rebirth. I'm a Christian, but it was a physical rebirth, if you will, in the physical sense and pardon.
Michael Whitehouse:
And on the attitude I was thinking about, like I could easily say I've been having a bad couple of weeks, a bad year. I mean, I hit I hit a deer with my car, my data hard drive, crashed the government, garnished $250 out of my bank account because the forms they sent me so cryptic, I couldn't tell that was coming. I What else happened? Something else happened. My knees bothering me. I don't know. There's a whole bunch of things. And yet with all those things, I'm like, okay, cool. So I know the car. I got a rental. That's good. All right, I'll just drive. Crashed. Well, fortunately, not too much data was on it because I'd made preparations and wasn't keeping critical data on that drive. So everything is relegated from disaster to inconvenience and move on. And then I always look at it as as that's the universe clearing space. So if bad things happen, something good is coming from it. A couple of weeks ago when I made the first sale for the summit guy, my, my wife and I this like huge fight in the morning. And I was like, I was super upset and just couldn't even get myself to work. And and then I had a call schedule. So I got on that call and that's where he's like, Yeah, I'll take one. And I told my wife, like, you know, we could fight every morning. As long as the sale comes right after it, my business will be fine. Let's just do that. That'd be fine. But it's I. I gave myself enough time to be like, Oh, this is terrible. Okay, back to it. I think that's the key thing, is to have that moment where you're like, okay, we're done with that.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. Yeah, I like that. So you have a whole new strategy for business success. It's get up in the morning, fight with wife, get on coaching call, and there you go. That's success. Everybody fight with your spouse. I'm kidding.
Michael Whitehouse:
But don't copy that one. Don't write that down. That's not the advice you're talking about.
Brian Kelly:
But it does prove a great point in that even though you were probably in a somewhat of a negative space mentally, he couldn't help but not be. But still, you pull up your pants and get on that coaching call probably right at the ship. In your mind before you got with that individual and gave them everything you got. And that's why they said, Yeah, I want to do business with you. So yeah, and that's a great example. A lot of people think, you know, the successful people, they just everything goes right for them. It's like nothing could be farther from the truth. In fact, the more money one makes, the more success one has, the more issues one is faced with to solve. It doesn't get easier. It gets more difficult. That is why all of these trials that we're going through as we're growing our business are so incredibly valuable to us because as they grow, they seem less and less impactful. Less and less. Oh my God, the sky is falling. It's like, okay, you just you just say, I'm going to deal with it and move on. We just take care of business and you do it with less and less emotion, which gets you through it faster. Is that something you find that you resonate with?
Michael Whitehouse:
Yeah, it's very much this. You know, I remember I saw a meme in I think it's 2021 or 22 when they said, with all this going on, I could come downstairs and see a dimensional portal. It opened up my kitchen and my attitude would just be like, Oh, so we're living with this now. And long before 2020 I had that mindset of getting married was it was a dramatic life change. Moving to Connecticut was a dramatic life change. I got had all these things and I finally said, I need looks like going down a waterslide. You can't hold on to the edges. You just got to go, Are you going to hurt yourself? So I was like, I need to treat this like a water slide. It's going to go whatever happens, I'm just going to ride the ride. And so when 2020 happened, I'm like, Oh, so we're staying home. This is interesting. Oh, I can't do my job anymore. This is interesting. I need to launch a business. This is interesting. Yeah. And to see it all is like, Oh, this is the next adventure. Nis Oh, half my clients just dropped off. This is interesting.
Brian Kelly:
And they say more millionaires are made during downtimes than they are and up. And why is that? Because those are the people that are looking for the solutions to the pain points that everyone's going through. You know, and as as COVID was running through and we're all on lockdown, I thought of it, but I thought of it a little too late. But I thought, dang, that would have been it, which was those portable you just attach them to your your toilet bodies because toilet paper was nowhere to be found and they were all around on, you know, I could have just become this monster affiliate with that. And I was like, man, that would be the way to go. Everywhere I went, there was no toilet paper. But that's the mindset of success versus non success. Non success is woe is me, this sucks. My God in this bitch whine and complain endlessly about it to your spouse, to whoever is next to you that you can actually complain to. But those that are successful avoid complaining doesn't mean they're perfect. They will complain on occasion. I have been known to do that myself. Yes, but the thing is, is we get over that much faster than those who are not achieving their dreams or success in. That's what I found in my life experience being this very old and getting wiser just because of age. Man, I can own it that way. But you know, I don't want to mess around on this show too much outside of what you do, because I'm going to be very what's the word? Stingy, I guess I want to do this because I'm I'm curious. I want to find out about the summit guy. Everyone sees it under your name. For those of you watching live or on recording on video, if you're not. God bless you. Thank you for coming on. Listening on podcast. We're on 35 podcast platforms. I would highly recommend you come on to video though, and watch this live the mind body business show. Just register, get notified, you get a link, you click at your right on with us on YouTube, I believe. And speaking of which, there's a couple of comments I would be remiss. One Life coaching says I need to meet this man. We will give you that opportunity to meet this man. Definitely. And then, yes, I'm alive. Okay. We're talking about fitness back then. That's fantastic.
Michael Whitehouse:
And anyone listening, not watching, I am stunningly attractive. So you you're missing.
Brian Kelly:
You're missing out. That's right. Yep. Yeah. He's got he's got the rockin beard. If you can't see it, you're going to want to come back and look. And you can watch this. The recorded version at the Mind Body Business show as well. There's a pass shows link with all the information about Michael. His website link will be there as well. So in his Facebook, so you can get in touch with him, but we'll give you the directions here on the show as well as we do this alive. But what I want to do, Michael, is you are now you are now the summit guy. You weren't that not long ago and you pivoted. A lot of people don't like that word. I don't mind it. You shifted. You moved. You changed your focus on what you do. And I'm just curious, what was that what caused that to happen? And was that a difficult decision for you at the time you are making it?
Michael Whitehouse:
So the I call it more of a focus than a pivot because the summit guy, I think is entirely within the old brand that I had. So so I had been the guy who knows the guy. I wrote a book called The Guy Who Knows the Guy. That's where the name came from. And I was the networking guy. I made introductions, I made connections, and I tried to build a business out of making connections. And I one of the things I built was a networking group that turned into a mastermind group. And so I built my own mastermind, which was pretty handy. And I put myself in the hot seat a few few weeks ago, and as I was asking them, I knew what I needed to do because I figured out that summits could be an offering. But I was also doing a couple of other things, and I asked them, what should I do to get the focus and energy to be able to do what I know I need to do because I pretty much know what I am just not doing it. And they said, You need to stop being so many things. And you know, we want to introduce you, I want to refer you, but we're not really sure what to refer you for because you're the guy who knows a guy. You need to be the guy. You know, you can refer the guy referring the guy who knows a guy. You're like, Oh, he knows a guy. I know a guy. Well, no guy. So. So I zeroed in so well, the thing that I'm really excited about is running these summits. And they said, Well, then be the summit guy. And I'm like, Boom, that's my brand. I'm the summit guy. And then they were like, Hey, we are going to be hard to let go of the guy who knows the guy. I'm like, Well, I wrote the book, so my email is all my logins are attached to it. I can't actually get rid of it completely. But, but it's actually interesting. Once I started focusing on it and I said, I've got one product. That actually serves a number of solutions.
Michael Whitehouse:
We're going to get to how versatile. But I've got basically one product, which is the the KISS summit's, which is for kinetic, interactive, simple summits. Those summits are the one thing I do. And suddenly everything became much clearer because most of my agenda is now running summits and finding people to run summits for. That's it. It's selling the thing and doing the thing. And then a couple little ancillaries here and there. But most of my business is now one thing as opposed to it was a bit of this and I was running summits and I these shows and I was doing this and I was doing that and I was over here and I was over there. And so by focusing in, it's it's been much more. My my mind is calmer if as much as possible. My ADHD brain. But my business is more focused. And it's interesting, once I start talking to people about it, they have clarity of what I do because I've felt the frustration. I talked to people like, I like you, You're a great guy. You clearly have good energy, you've got integrity. I want to help you, but I haven't the vaguest idea how I want to refer people to you. But I've no idea who you can help. And now people, they're saying, Oh, you do that. Yeah, I want one. Or you do that. I know someone who you should talk to and having that clarity. And it's I've known I needed the clarity for a long time, but it's like getting married, be like, you know, you got to get married. Stop dating around so much. Well, I'm dating so much because I haven't met the right girl yet. It's not pick one thing. It's pick the right thing you can stick with. Yeah, I tried to pick some things, but they weren't the right thing. Yeah, and once I found some, it's. I'm like, this is the thing because it's got. I like speaking, as you can probably tell. I like networking. I like bringing people together or I like creating fun events. I like all the parts of running Summit. So that's the thing.
Michael Whitehouse:
Just took me two and half years to find it.
Brian Kelly:
And that's fine. Your passion just shines through. And it's I think we I say this to several people, but I'm telling you, I think you're another one. I think we were separated at birth because there's a lot of parallelism here. Similar thing happened with me. I was a certified personal instructor for a number of years and I loved it. I thought and then I got told by people outside of my you know, there's so many lessons you just brought up. I want to kind of summarize them for the people watching because they're very valuable. Number one is getting a mastermind group because it is best to hear what other people from another lens outside of your own, what other people are observing about you, especially the part of I'm confused on how to introduce you. That happened to me too. And it's like, Oh, we got an issue here. And then. And then. But the other thing was be sure you're doing something you truly love and you'll hear a lot of pushback on that. No, no, no. You don't want it. It's not all about passion. It's just about making money and all the other reasons. I say, you know, having lived life long enough, I'm much happier doing what I do because I love what I'm doing. That, to me is more important than all the money in the world. It's like if you don't enjoy what you're doing while you're doing it, then you're why? Just for money to. Stick with it.
Michael Whitehouse:
If it's just for money, yeah, you'll hit a bump in the road and you're like, Why am I doing this?
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, and that's an entrepreneur. We work more than a full time job and the term of hours typically. So if you're going to do something for a long period of time every single day, then do something you love, find what that is. And oftentimes others can help direct you and tell you what it is. You didn't even know what it was you loved. That's what happened with me. I had three different people tell me at three different times within a month span. Brian Every time you start a new project or anything, you go in and you automate the hell out of it. It's like, Wow, they're right. I do love it. It's just automatic to me. So I literally stopped my certified personal trainer business. It was online before COVID. It was ahead of its time. I did livestreaming workouts all the time and I stopped it and I deleted the website in one day and I didn't have one shred of regret, and I just started going down the automation trail. So you're everything you're saying is. And then, yes, it was a focus that one doesn't have anything to do with personal training. You know what I'm doing now? That's okay. For me, it was the right decision. And I love that yours is the right decision and it's still within the wheelhouse of what you were doing before, so that now your book is still appropriate for people that want to connect with you as well. So on that note, would you mind holding that book up real quick so we can show the folks what that is? There it is. Who knows? A guy? Yes. Oh, in stereo, too. That was awesome. So the guy who knows a guy Revised edition. Where is that available?
Michael Whitehouse:
You can find that on Amazon. And you can actually if you go to a guy who knows a guy dot com and put your email in the box, then you'll get a free PDF of the book as well as an MP3 of me reading the book to you.
Brian Kelly:
Wow. An audible book. Man, that's even better. I may have to get it myself. I love Audible. That's the way I prefer to read. That's why I waited till I was 47, because I didn't realize I hated reading with my eyeballs like a full book. I could read articles and news, all that other stuff. No problem. But sustain no way for hours on end. I can't do it. I don't like doing it, I should say. But yeah. So let's talk about what it is you do for your clients, what you are embarking on doing for the people that come your way. You are telling me a great story about kind of when it was getting started that you were working with a partner. I would love for you to recant that story because it gives people an insight into what causes somebody to change their focus and to get more clear on what it is they want to do. And it's very interesting to me how these stories come about. So if you wouldn't mind sharing that, that would be phenomenal.
Michael Whitehouse:
Sure. Well, I'll take you all the way back to 2020 when things started going online and started going on Zoom. And I immediately saw the opportunities of everything going on Zoom because I said, if my Barney group just went on Zoom, so did everyone else's. And I visited a group in Malaysia and a group in Australia and a group in Washington. It was awesome. But I've been running events, live events, mostly geek events, sci fi conventions and whatnot since 1996. And so when everything went online, I thought, Oh, you could do some really cool stuff with these virtual platforms. I can't wait to see what people are doing. And they were awful. They were prerecorded events. They were these these summits. And you still see these everywhere, these events where it's just back to back speakers. They might as well be prerecorded because there's no interaction there. Done webinar style, which basically just means they talk at you and you might as well be watching TV less interactive than this show. This show you can at least put stuff in the comments and and we can respond to it. These a lot of these summits aren't even that interactive. They're just like one way. And and I, I saw what I what I called the DJ fallacy. So most club DJs believe that people go to the club to listen to music. This is not correct. You would not go to a club that didn't have music, but you go to the club to see people. You go to the club to dance with other people. You go to the club to drink, you go to club, do all kinds of things that the music supports. And if the music is bad, it diminishes the experience. But it's not about the music. Same thing with speakers at an event. So it a live event. People wouldn't show up if there weren't speakers. But the value happens in the hallway, in the bar, in the restaurant. And so I thought if I ever if I ever run my own live event, my own virtual event, at the time, I didn't know how to do it. If I ever run my own virtual event, I would have a space called the hallway.
Michael Whitehouse:
All I knew was Zoom at the time. So I was thinking, I just have a separate zoom room called the hallway, and it would be an open breakout room where people could just talk to each other and do because that's where the business happens. You see the speaker and then you you talk about them. Well, not too much longer. Not not too much. Later in February 2021, I ran an event called Conference 21, which was celebrating the not 2020 ness of 20 2121. And I found this platform that could that when you did networking, you could opt into any breakout rooms. So Zoom at the time did not have self directed breakout rooms, but I found that. So in between the speakers, there's a 15 minute breakout block and people could go into separate rooms and talk to each other. And the feedback I got from the speakers was that it was great because of all the connections they made. It wasn't about being on stage and getting people to opt in and then making their pitch. It was about talking to people in those breakouts and they'd tell me, Oh yeah, I met so-and-so, I'm going to hire them to do a project for me. I'm at so-and-so, we're going to partner on someone. I met so-and-so, I learned all this and the value was the speakers meeting each other. Yeah, I ran. And so in February 22, I won. The event went great because people were desperate for anything that could give them human connection. The third one was in August. At that point, things were opening back up. There are more live events and it did not go so well. I think I had 20 speakers and an average of 14 people on the event at a time. So the numbers are pretty poor. And I'm thinking, okay, well, the speakers are going to hate this. There's no one here. The feedback I got was Michael, you did it again. Another great event. Like, what do you mean? I met this person and this person and this person. Because even though there are only 14 people there, the people who were there or the speakers who tend to be the people you most want to meet at an event because they get invited to be on stage and they were meeting each other.
Michael Whitehouse:
And I said, Oh, well, the power of this is the connections people are making. I'm the guy who knows a guy in the networking guy. I'm starting to see this. But at the time I was doing it on my building, my own platform on casters, I'd make all my own landing pages and all my own everything. Like, this is not worth the effort. No one's showing up. I gave up. And then I discovered a platform called Event Raptor. And Event Raptor takes all the organizational stuff in the middle of a summit, the speaker applications and the registration pages and all that does it for you. So it's all that's all automated. And I was like, Oh, okay. So I got that. I ran I ran an event that called The Great Experiment because I was experimenting with the event Raptor and I went to speakers I know and said, Hey, I'm doing an event. I'm calling the Great Experiment. I'm trying out a summit platform. You want to join me? And they said, Sure. And they came in and they promoted and we had a great time. And the same thing happened this morning. We're using Zoom because Zoom has self directed breakout rooms now, and I was able to do everything I needed to do on Zoom, and I did it in a format that was a 15 minute speaking slot and a 15 minute interactive, 15 minute speaking slot, 50 minute interactive. And the interactive is sometimes a breakout room. Sometimes it's a hot seat coaching thing, sometimes it's Q&A, sometimes it's open discussion, depends on kind of what the vibe is in the room at the time. And the results once again, were that people were so excited because of the connections they were making with each other in in the room. And at the time I was, you know, when you hear about people run summits, they're like, when I run a summit, I average 27 billion gazillion opt ins. And I'm I was getting 102 hundred now say, well, I'm Little League, I'm doing this for fun. I'm getting a couple hundred opt ins. It's it's a hobby, really. And then I, I actually participated in some of these events that are the big ones.
Michael Whitehouse:
I participated in an event where the host said that she had 10,000 options. I'm like, Wow, this is going to be exciting stage to be on 10,000 tents. So I come early, even though there's no networking or interactive stuff, and the first. Speaker One speaker speaks and is. Dull and that speaker finishes and the host says, All right, well, thanks. So next up is and I'm like, that's it. Next up is they introduce next speaker. The next speaker was. Also well rehearsed. Okay. So they bring me up. And I don't like monologuing, so I may I certainly can monologue. Obviously, as you can see. But I like engaging. I like connecting. So remember, she said there were 10,000 options for this event. There were 14 people on Zoom for this event. Yeah. And I said, I like to see who I'm talking to. If I want to talk to myself, I'd record another podcast. Turn on your turn on your cameras. Let me see who's in here. Let me see your smiling faces. And seven faces appeared. So I gave my talk, very interactive, had people ask questions and we did a lot of back and forth. My talk ended. They're still going in the chat asking me more questions. I'm feeling bad for the next speaker, but you know, what can you do? And and that's what I realized. Wait a minute. This is one of those big events. 10,000 options, whatever. It's only there's less people in the room that are my events. I thought my event was small because they're not getting the actual live engagement. So so that's when I started kind of shift on weight. Maybe my event actually is more than I think or my my style is more than I think it is. And I was running an event called Entrepreneur Nerd. So entrepreneur it is for entrepreneurs who happen to be geeks. And Laura Lake came up with that name when when we met at an event and it was back in 2021 when I discovered event wrapped. I'm like, Ooh, Laura, it's time we could run entrepreneur together.
Michael Whitehouse:
And so we had a meeting and we made all the plans and picked the date. And then she got bogged down with a whole bunch of stuff with her family and her and whatnot. I ended up basically running the event myself, and she was there as the co host and just showed up, which was fine because sometimes a group project is easier if you just do it by yourself. You don't have to have all the meetings and checking in. And how are you doing? Yeah, actually turned out fine. So for the next event, I'm like, Let's do the same thing again. You just show up, I'll run it. We'll be partners. And I realized coming into coming into the end of 2022. I said, that's the model. So we specked out with the event was in this case Entrepreneur bird. But I need to have an idea of what she wanted. And then we didn't have to talk again until the event started and she shows up and co host with me. And then we both get the the opt in list from it and we both get the exposure being the host. And so I kind of productize that into a program where the client meets with me once I get an idea of what they're looking to do, what the branding is they want, what the concept is. If they have funnels they want to attach it to and automations and systems and all that to plug into it. And then once I've got that information, the next thing they need to do is show up for the events because I'm going to find the speakers, I'm going to get them engaged, I'm going to write the copy and and all those things. So the what what seemed like a an unbalanced partnership actually turned out to be a really good business model. And I took that to the market and basically said, I got this thing, we get 125 to 300 opt ins, we get 20 to 40 people actively on the call, paying attention for 6 hours and we get 10 to 15 speakers that I bring in that the host gets to know and could develop a relationship with. Those are the three deliverables and then went out to the market and said who can make something with these three things?
Michael Whitehouse:
And a few people started saying, Ooh, I'd like 15 introductions to JV partners. I'd like 30 people in a room for 6 hours, I'd like 203 hundred good leads of people who are really engaged. And so they discovered there was some value in it. And I said, I've been actively pushing it for a week and I've got two clients signed on already, so I think it might have some legs.
Brian Kelly:
I love it. And so from the other side of the fence, like, so for someone who might want to put on their own summit and come to you, what do you recommend to them for monetization? What are the different ways they can earn or get an ROI for whatever they're paying you, plus maybe some profit, or at least the connections by themselves could be priceless by themselves. But is there a way to monetize the summit itself where they will see any of those rewards either through selling on stage or through registrations? How do you have that worked out?
Michael Whitehouse:
So I'm going to say definitely there is. And that is so far outside of my zone of genius, I can't see it because that's what I realized is I'm not great at selling from stage. I'm not great at monetization, which is I think part of why I thought like my summits were were amateur so much so long as time and then it finally clicked. If somebody knew how to sell from a stage and was hanging out with this audience for 6 hours at the level of engagement I get, they could make a gazillion dollars. So it's there's a few applications that I found. It's funny, it's like you build a machine and I build it for one thing. And then someone said, Oh, you know what? That would be great for Julian Fries. Julian Fries is a lawn mower, but I built it to be one thing. And then people see it and say, Oh, I want it for this thing. So one of the applications is, is the connections, the JV partners. A lot of people in the JV space, they are always looking for good JV partners. But how do you know if they're going to promote? How do you know if they're going to work? How do you know if they're aligned? Well, if they're speakers on your summit stage, you get to see them speak. You might get to talk to them during the event and you learn if they promote because you can see if they promote the summit without building a whole webinar or whatever else, it's a chance to vet them or you know, you might talk to them and it turns out that they're not going to promoting summits, but they are going to promoting webinars or whatever. But you've got you're already a step two or three in the in the relationship as opposed to I used to have a business, an offer where I'd make introductions, just make connections. But the problem there is your step one. You're like, All right, so Michael said, we should talk. So tell me more about your business. What do you do? What you're like. You're at zero. I can try to brief them a bit, but with the summit, you've seen them speak, you heard their topic, you've read their bio, you've actually had a little bit of warming up with the relationship.
Michael Whitehouse:
So that's one application. Another one is, is if you're looking to to sell out to often a launch or something like that, you'll try to get people on to a call for 2 hours, 3 hours. The longer they spend on the call, the more invested they are, the bigger it ask you can make. So with the summit, it gives people a reason to come on for potentially 6 hours. And it's not with you, it's with all your speakers. But you're the host, right? You're here that whole time, warming them up. And either you could make an offer, you could take the keynote slot, you know, the spot at the end, and you could make an offer there, or you could make a soft offer into a webinar and you could say, you know, I do this kind of thing. I'd love for anyone who's interested, I'd love to share it with you, or if you want to stick around when the summit is over, I'm going to be going deeper. Into the program I offer if you'd like to know you. You've developed that rapport with the audience. You can leverage it that way. Another And then of course, there's the the lead generation. It's not 10,000 opt ins, but the 1 to 200 that I generate in the summit I believe are more valuable than the 10,000. You get these big things because often the 10,000 are the people who just opt into everything. Yeah yeah. They want every freebie, every PDF. They they go to every event, they sign up for every event and they don't go to it. These are people who they signed up not for a freebie, not for a download, but they signed up for an event. So they signed up to say, I want to go to something. This could indicate a higher level of interest than your typical typical tire kickers. And and so so my the clients I work with, they have they have some monetization strategy generally and so so they're going to plug it. I have all kinds of ways they can plug in their system into what I'm doing. The another group actually is people who don't necessarily have monetization strategy.
Michael Whitehouse:
They don't have everything built out, but they're trying to get themselves on the map. Being a summit host. There are certain titles. If you put them after your name, you get some credibility. Author, Podcaster. Right. Summit Host. Summit host takes less work than author podcaster. Even if someone helps you to your podcast, you still have to do all the interviews yourself. Do all the stuff. If you write a book, someone can help you yourself to write the book. If you hire me to make you a summit host, you've got to pay me. But other than that, you have to show up. That's it. And you're the host. And you can and I can adjust the way you run the summit to optimize. So if it's about authority, I can make sure that you are positioned to ask a couple intelligent questions to each speaker. And asking questions is great because if you ask good questions, you don't actually know anything. You just have to know how to ask good questions. And people think you're an expert. Because you were there when a really smart thing God said you didn't say it, but people forget that detail.
Brian Kelly:
And I love the other the other aspect of asking and having interview style shows like this is I asked you out of interest about what you do for your summit. You didn't come on and just barf out what you did. Buy yourself a talking head. People don't like that. Don't resonate with that. So it also provides that additional it's like when you go to a seminar or an event or a convention, let's do that. And there are all those booths lined up all around the building while you see a big herd of people around one place. Where do you tend to want to gravitate toward? Like what's going on over there? Same thing is if someone else expresses interest in someone else, what they're doing that has a similar effect and it's very powerful. I was curious. You have I have so many questions about this. I love this space because it's very similar to like what you were saying before the physical seminar event space where you have multiple speakers. And I've been through that process. I've had my own I've been I've worked with a mentor and helped him with many of his events. And one of the models I remember being that if you bring on guest speakers and you don't pay them, usually they want to be able to sell something from stage, but the agreement is okay, well, I'm the host. I paid for this venue, I paid for all this stuff. Anything you sell, I need a cut from like the traditional number was 50% when I was going through the seminar industry. Do you have things like that or is that something that you could set up? Because I could go out and say, I know five people that sell like crazy, and if they're willing to come on to a summit that I'm putting on and I'll get some percentage of it just being the host, would that be a model that you would be open to implementing for your clients as well?
Michael Whitehouse:
Yeah, absolutely. And in terms of the the revenue revenue share, for my part, because I'm not involved in the revenue part, I throw the party, I bring the guests, I make something happen, but I'm not selling it. I'm not building the funnels for them, whatever. So if they sell 100,000 on the stage I built for them, they get 100,000 for the stage. They're paying me to build the stage. But there's actually a concept that I ran. I ran something called the Business Solutions Showcase when I had this epiphany that people watch QVC on purpose. So often in marketing, we're trying to trick people into lenience market to them, you know, Yeah, get my free book. It's totally a free book. And and there's no you know, there's nothing nothing else there. It's just the book. Okay, maybe I'll get on my email list. By the way, if you got my free book, you're going to get my email list. I'm telling you that because my email list is also valuable. But so often we're trying to bury it. We're like, No, don't come to the site. No, we're not selling anything. Put your wallets away. I don't want to sell you. You tell me to put my wallet away. Now my guards up, because that's like saying the wing is on fire. Like, wait, why? Why did you have to tell me the wing was not on fire? Was it on fire? Did do we think it might be on fire? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't think you're out to sell me. But now you just said put my wallet away. So now I definitely think you're going to sell me. But the concept of the business Solution showcase was it was ten SAS service software as a service solutions providers. Each had a subscription service $100 a month or less, and it was 10 minutes each, rapid fire one after another for another two hour event. And the the way that the event was promoted was explicitly saying, You come here, we're going to tell you about a lot of things you might want to buy. Yeah. Up front and and so so they weren't telling a story.
Michael Whitehouse:
They weren't trying to teach something. They were saying, here's the product I have. Here's the problem you may have. Here's the solution it offers. It's 29 bucks a month. Here's how you sign up for it. So the event as a concept worked. Well, the people who it's funny, the people who were there loved it and said, Why are you doing it again? Nobody bought anything. And I'm like, I'm not nobody bought anything. I didn't sell stuff. But the audience was it was really interesting because the audience really enjoyed it, even though they didn't buy anything and the speakers really enjoyed it, even though they didn't sell anything. So so the concept is certainly, certainly potentially viable. I have not tested it to success, but I think it could work. What I do recommend from my speakers though, to get the maximum value. So first they get they get the networking value of being there and meeting the other speakers, which is totally worth their time and the amount of engagement it takes. But I also say because a lot of people say, Well, I can't teach what I do in 15 minutes, to which I'm like, Of course you can't, but the people here don't want to listen to you for an hour because they don't know who you are. Sure. But in 15 minutes you can whet their appetite. And so I recommend to my speakers if they want to do more, schedule a webinar workshop follow up event sometime that week. So if the if the events on. If my summit is on Monday, it's like a webinar for Wednesday and at the end of your talk, say, I could only talk about this one thing today. I'm doing a webinar on Wednesday in which I'm going to talk about the other three points and also share with you how you can work with me, which I'm pretty sure everyone understands. Share with you how you can work in these code for offer to sell you something.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, absolutely.
Michael Whitehouse:
People don't mind if you're upfront about it.
Brian Kelly:
Exactly. You just gave me a fantastic idea. Buy all that because I do what I call a master class. Once every month or so. I usually do it every 5 to 6 weeks. I've done it 25 times. The Advanced Life Video Master class. Not not here to pitch it. The cool thing is it's like a little over an hour in length. It's 70 minutes. The retention rate is ungodly. Good people stay on for the entire time. But for what you're talking about, I'm thinking, how would I reduce that to 15 minutes? I'm thinking this can be super simple. I'll take a recording, get the transcription copy paste into, I don't know, chat GPT and say, write me a 15 minute version of this and it'll spit it out. So it's not that difficult to do. And you just gave me a great idea for that, like how to really condense it, especially it think about that as well. Michael What that could do for other people that are our guests on podcasts and shows. They're not there to spend an hour telling them about their, their product. So this could give them also that tool to give them the 15 minute intro. So that's awesome. Yeah. So that's bonus material thanks to this guy. You know, he brought up the, the whole thing and we can integrate with things like chat GPT and oh my gosh, there's so many things you can do with it. It's just ungodly awesome. But yeah, that would be awesome to be. And I got many more questions that go into brutal detail and I don't want to muddy the waters with it all, but like, you know, what do you use for what, what should be used for merchant accounts for the various speakers And if they're doing revenue share, how to assemble all that. There's the details that I would be curious about because I wouldn't want it to be 100% dependent on my efforts just in case I got the wrong crowd that day. Right. It could be that they're more synergistic with another individual of the 20 that came on and they crush it. You just never know.
Michael Whitehouse:
So that way, one of the things about the model I use is that it was designed to work if no one shows up. So part of the agreement the speakers make is they'll be there 2 hours beyond their own talk. So, so so I always look at this as good business planning anyway. Always look at what's the worst that can happen? What's the worst expected? The worst. You know, terrorist might break into my house and shoot me like, okay, I guess that could happen. But that's not really a scenario to plan for. Like, what's the worst likely to happen? What's the best, what's the what's the genie wish best? So I say, okay, so let's say no attendees show up and it's just the speakers and the speakers just do what they're required to do. We still end up with five speakers on at all times. Which gives you an intimate networking group kind of a little stretched out in length more than you'd normally have. But, you know, you give your talk to four other speakers who are all professionals in the industry and potentially interested in it. Then you have 15 minutes to sit in a round table and talk to them, and then the next one talks and shares something that maybe you don't know and and then 15 minutes sitting around a table. Now, this has never happened. I've never had five people in the room. But that's the failure. That's like the worst failure mode. It's still not a complete failure. I expect most of the speakers will be like, Well, that was not what I expected. But it was it was nice because also if that ever happened that all five of those people are responsible because they didn't promote. So they can't really blame me. There's ten speakers and five of them are sitting there together with no audience. It's not my fault.
Brian Kelly:
But then as the host, we can take the responsibility of following up with all those speakers and setting up maybe some kind of our own internal networking group. Just a meeting or something to say, Hey, how can we all benefit from each other?
Michael Whitehouse:
So there's a lot. Of things that do to make sure they forget. But but that's the worst case, and it's still success. Yeah, and I completely get that. Yeah. And it was interesting, as is, if you're used to being on summits, you're used to showing up for your talk and leaving. Because most summits are not interactive and boring. And so you come and do your thing and get out as fast as you can. I had one of my speakers, my summits from 11 a.m. to 5 p.m., most of them, and I had one speaker booked for 1130, so she was obligated to stay till about 1:00. At 5:00. She said, You know, I really meant to leave early afternoon, but with the 15 minute cycle, she's like, Oh, this person's okay, this looks interesting. All right, I'll sit for another 14 minutes. Just see that song. Oh, now we're in a roundtable. You know, these Q&A are really interesting. Your answering questions. Oh, Oh, this person talked really interesting, too. Oh, we're doing breakouts. I'll do breakouts. You mean some people. All right. And 15 minutes at a time all the way to the end of the day, because it just kept kept kept pulling her on through.
Brian Kelly:
And that's that's a key component is keeping the interest level high. And I love how you've mixed in the different kind of things that that'll fit for whatever that person is doing to keep people going. A breakout room at one point maybe, I don't know, maybe a Q&A session, like you said, a hot seat on another one. And yeah, I could see how that would be much more intriguing and engaging than regular. And I just know from doing this show that everything you're seeing is absolutely true, that the value is there. It just with me, it's one person per week that I meet like you, and I develop long lasting lifelong friendships and relationships, and I never look at it as being something as transactional. I look at it as getting to know the individual, and oftentimes I become their client. I'm not looking to make money out of everybody. I touch or talk to. My ears are open my antennas up just in case, but I don't go after and go, Hey Michael, thanks for coming to my show. Now do you want to do business with me? Let's do it. You do it by my crap. Come on, buy my stuff. Come on.
Michael Whitehouse:
Yeah, You make amazing connect. I gave a talk at a at pod talks. The title was something along the lines of how I made 36,000 from a podcast with 16 listeners or something like that. Those exact numbers a little bit off, but. But it's basically about what you're talking about, that a podcast is a great way to make connections with people that you might not otherwise. You reach out to someone, Hey, you want to do a 1 to 1? I don't have time for that. You want to come on my podcast? Yep. Yeah. Hey, you want to go 1 to 1? No. You want to do a 1 to 1, But we'll record it and I'll put it on Facebook. Yeah, sure. Okay.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, there's something for them Now. What's in it for me? And that's, that's the beautiful thing. And you know, that's my goal and mission. As I told you before, the show is to make to lift you up, to get you massive exposure. This isn't for Brian, This is for Michael, this show and everything we do, you're going to you're going to see it after it's over, some announcements. What's going to happen? We repurpose this to the ninth. I mean, we do it all. And so I call it carpet bomb marketing. That's my little term for it. We saturate the marketplace with the message and my God, I just looked, we're over. We're over our hour already, which is awesome. That tells me that I've had a lot of fun and we've barely even scratched the surface where I wanted to go personally. But before I go any further, I did promise everyone who stayed on till the end, which we're technically past the end, that I would show them how they could win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort, as they saw earlier in the show, compliment our sponsor The Big Insider Secrets, which is that red and white stamp looking logo on the upper right. My dear buddy Jason asked. Just got married on a cruise ship. We were there and witnessed it last week. Awesome. Love that man. They sponsor this show and give us the ability to give one of these away every single show. I'm going to put that up on the on the screen and run you through it real fast. All you need to do if you're watching, you have to be on here watching live. That's number one. So if you're not on here live and you're listening to this after the fact or watching after the fact, go to the mind body business show dot com. Don't forget the the and the show at the beginning and the end dot com and register and that way you won't miss the next show and you just need to be here live till the end. Here is how you enter to win for those of you that are with us at this very moment, write this down.
Brian Kelly:
You want to write down our why p dot. I am forward slash vacation and yes, guest speakers can enter to win as well if they so choose. Michael White House that you. Yes our I am for such vacation. I have had guest speakers when look why would I ask or allow a guest speaker to enter to win. He has come and invested his time for you to give value to you, to show you how to become more successful, how to network and be connected with people that are in your space that might potentially help you catapult your business. And so he did you all a favor, in my opinion. And so I think it's just right to allow guests to enter to win as well. And I hope he does win because he deserves it. I hope you all win, though. You've all been here watching us dutifully. And yeah, we are in over time. And what I like to do, Michael, is I like to end every show with a very profound question. I do this with every guest that I have on the show. It's it's very heavy hitting, but it's not a difficult question at all. It's just very profound. I found over years of doing this now, this is how I close every show. And I'll tell you after we're done that if you give permission, I'm going to make a compilation. Book out of all the answers because it's that powerful. Powerful. So you can use my answer. I don't know. The question is, but I'm going to say yes now. I love it. I love it. So we are going to do that if you're ready. I'm ready so we can close this bad boy up and call it a very successful, wonderful show. And I thank you in advance for the workshop. Know next week coming on. Yeah, we'll do that. So let's let's do this last question. We'll we'll close it up with some parting comments. That's that's absolutely yes. I'd love for you to be able to share that. So someone on YouTube wants to meet me. Yes, that's right. And you'll get the opportunity.
Brian Kelly:
All right. With that. Here we go. Michael Whitehouse. How do you. Define. Success.
Michael Whitehouse:
Ooh, that is a hard hitting question. How do I define success? I would say that success is finding. Happiness. But happiness is not the right word because people misuse happiness a lot to be more of a temporary state of. Ignored bliss. But it's finding actual happiness. Finding the place where. Where you are satisfied in your life and pleased with how it is going. And I think that often comes from living in purpose, living in meaning. So doing things that that matter, that feel valuable. You discover this when people retire, that they retire and they're like, they've been waiting for retirement 35 years and now they're retire and they're like, Now what? Whereas entrepreneurs have the privilege if they choose the right path and and focus on the right thing, to do something which is really meaningful and enjoyable and fun. But that also provides that. That sense of meaning in that sense of purpose. So that that it really feels like they're doing something and making the impact they're meant to make.
Brian Kelly:
And like I often say before asking that question, there's no such thing as a wrong answer. And the other thing is no. Two people have been doing this now for years. I just saw that this very show. No two people to date have answered it the same way. Is that amazing or what? And the other thing, though, that one thing that is common, not any one person ever said that money was the reason that that that did not that money defined success or any amount thereof. Some mention money sprinkled in, but that was never the primary definition of their definition of success. And the cool thing is, if I were to ask you that question one year from today, Michael, the odds are that that definition would change. That's how powerful this question is. So I can't wait for that to show up in your book. And then we don't want to go anywhere until we announce what you have coming up very, very soon. It is a workshop, so if you want to take them through that, I'm going to pull up your website while we do that.
Michael Whitehouse:
Absolutely. Yes. So so my website, of course, is summits dot fund, because all summits should be fun. We're doing a workshop next Thursday at the 16th at 11 a.m. Eastern time, which you can get to at Somerset Fund slash workshop. And what I'm going to be doing is going through kind of a high level overview of of what the the summit style that I use. So if you run your own summits, you can learn some of the concepts of what I do, but also going in detail about how it is that how it is someone can work with me. Because actually I ran this workshop last week and I was fully intending, I'm going to teach, you know, people want to learn. And then and you know, once I present a value, then maybe I'll make an offer. And basically the audience said, No, just make the offer. I don't want to run one of these things. Don't teach me. I don't want to learn how to do it. You know how to do it. I'm just, Hey, you. So this is the summits that don't suck workshop and I will be going, you know, any questions anyone has about how to run a stuff? They're running their own assignments. Happy to answer them in the workshop. But also we'll be talking about how people can work with me to have basically everything I would talk about in last hour, how I can do it for them and get them all the things I've been talking about.
Brian Kelly:
I love that. And I appreciate you. And this is your main website, the Summit guy.
Michael Whitehouse:
And I should also point out, you may notice that this February 13th, that's this Monday.
Brian Kelly:
So, yeah, I was going to Say.
Michael Whitehouse:
if you look at the name Entrepreneur episode six, the return of the summit, and you get the joke, this is for you, you should.
Brian Kelly:
Get it. So I might. Want to do that. The return of this summit. And then the next one is episode one, The Phantom Summit. I love it. I did notice that the numbers were out of out of order, but the date was later. I was like, okay, I see. Yeah, I love it. That looks like fun.
Michael Whitehouse:
I actually I changed the date that when I realized it was in late April and that I could put it on May the fourth. All right. I can't miss this opportunity to put this on May the fourth, so.
Brian Kelly:
Fantastic. Well, my goodness, It has been an absolute pleasure. Michael, I cannot thank you enough for coming on and expressing our sharing your value, your wisdom. And I want to tell everybody that's here. Everything Michael was saying about the value of just making those relationships, that's really the highest value, because those are what turn into long standing business relationships that can earn you far more money than selling to even several hundred people all collected at once on one event. Yes, you can sell it on one event and you probably should attempt to do that. And that's a good thing. But you're going to make those connections that literally provide greater value over the long haul. I can just say that from personal experience doing this very show. So think about that. I do a show once a week. That's for a month I can get in touch with. Some of them may not be a connection at all. Most of the time they usually are. But with something like Michael's doing well, he'll put in pull in 10 to 15 speakers, you've got up to 15 people you're going to make a relationship with like that and you're not waiting a quarter of a year to get through 15 people. So there's a lot of value in that. And the fact that he does the work for you and he did not come on here for me to pitch him and I did not do this on purpose to pitch him either. When I see something that I, I resonate with and it's really what I resonate with is Michael himself. It is the person that I'm resonating with. And whatever he had, if he had something that solves a pain point that is in alignment with something I would need or somebody I know that would need, then it's like it's a no brainer for me because of him, not so much the service, but because it starts with the individual. And that's really what it comes down to with business, is if people can relate to you, connect with you. Then if you have a pain point that saw that you solve of theirs, then the. The resistance. The hesitation is gone because you've already made that connection and it just makes it a more natural, organic way of doing business.
Brian Kelly:
And it just it's more powerful in the long run. It's not this quick kill car salesman or vacuum cleaner. That vacuum sells that step into your door the moment the door opens. So you have to watch them clean up the dirt they just dropped on your carpet. That was back when I was a kid. That was crazy. I remember those just like they used to say in the kids movies. Like, turns out the real treasure was the friends we made along the way. Yep. And it's true. That's true. That's right. I was running a summit once, and that idea popped ahead of, like, Wait a minute, that's actually my summit model. The real treasure is the friends we make along the way. It is. It is. And it is so true. And all the kids shows, they get it. I mean, we they are actual good educational giving you a good educational reason to it's the best way to live life is that we are human beings and we are built to connect with each other. Money can and it is necessary for us to pay the bills, eat food and yeah, maybe have a nice house in a car if you want it and that kind of thing. But when it comes down to it, the rubber meets the road and you're on your deathbed, you're not going to remember the money or the things you're going to remember the people that you came across during your life. So go out there and crush it. Everyone, I just want to say in parting, please go out. Really crush it in your business. I want you to do that so that you can serve more people. Scale. Same with you, Michael. If there's anything I can do to help you, help promote your upcoming summits, be a part of them. Whatever you need help in, you now have my access information. Treat me as a friend and just reach out. And if I'm available and at the time, I will do what I can to help out. That's the way I roll.
Michael Whitehouse:
Well, fantastic. Thank you. I appreciate. That. You betcha.
Brian Kelly:
And for everyone else, on behalf of the amazing Mr. Michael Whitehouse, I am your host, Brian Kelly of the Mind Body Business Show and hoping that the videos fire off correctly when we end this show. That is it for tonight. I appreciate you all. Have a wonderful, wonderful evening. And above all, God bless you. Goodbye for now and take care. Thank you for tuning in to the Mind Body Business Show podcast at www.TheMindBodyBusinessShow.com. My name is Brian Kelly.
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Michael Whitehouse
Michael Whitehouse is The Guy Who Knows a Guy. In 2014, he came to Groton, Connecticut knowing no one at all. A year later, after diving into networking with both feet, he was a major connector in the local community. In 2020, he went global and began connecting entrepreneurs, investors, speakers and others around the world to people they need to know. He offers his services as a networking concierge, making connections and building strategic alliances around the world. He is the host of the daily Morning Motivation Podcast and the Guy Who Knows a Guy interview podcast.
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Narrator :
So, here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us, who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back. Who are dedicated, determined, and driven. How do we finally break through and win? That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly, and this is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show.
Brian Kelly:
Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Super excited for tonight's show. We have not just one, not two, not three, but four, four amazing guest experts who are joining me tonight right here on this very stage.
Brian Kelly:
They are waiting in the wings at this moment. So let's get busy. Shall we? The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, that is a show about what I call the three pillars of success, and that came about as a result of my study of only successful people in the last decade or so. And these patterns kept bubbling to the top and those patterns being mine, which is mindset set. Each and every successful person, to a person, had a very powerful and flexible mindset. So I learned that and said," I need to implement that". Then body: body is about literally taking care of yourself. Through nutrition and through exercise, exercising on a regular basis, and again that was another pattern of very successful people and in business. These successful people had mastered the skill-sets that were necessary to create, maintain, and grow a thriving business. They're wide and varied. It's like marketing, sales, team-building, systematizing. It goes on and on and on, leadership. There's no one person, in my humble opinion, that could master every single one of these. All you have to do is master just one, and I actually mentioned one of those. It was in that list. I don't know if anyone caught that, but if you master just one of those skill sets then you're good to go. That skill set is leadership. When you've mastered the skill set of leadership, you can then delegate those skills off to people who have those skill sets. See where I'm going? Good. That's what successful people do; the ones that I studied, anyway, over the course of about 10 years. That's what this show's about. It's a show for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs. I got four guests waiting, and I'm not going to wait any longer. So, I think we should just bring them on. What do you think? Let's do it.
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Brian Kelly:
And there they all are. These amazing, beautiful guests on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. How are you all doing? Altogether, too. That was phenomenal, I love that. So real quick. All of you, I hope you don't mind for just a moment. I want to do some housekeeping? I wanted to mention to everyone watching here live. If you stay with us till the end, you can win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. All compliments of our friends at The big insider secrets dotcom. You see them flying by on the bottom of the screen right now. It's an amazing, amazing vacation stay. Stay until the end, and you'll learn how you can enter to win that wonderful prize. We also have this. If you're struggling with putting on a live show, and it's overwhelming and you want a lot of the processes done for you while still enabling you to put on a high-quality show. And connect with great people like the ones we have tonight, and to grow your business all at the same time, then head on over to carpet bomb marketing dotcom. Carpet bomb marketing, saturate the marketplace with your message. One of the key components that is contained in the carpet bomb marketing courses, and this is one that you'll learn how to absolutely master, is the very service we use to stream our live shows right here on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Over the course of the past, now it's over nine years, we have tried many of these, "TV studio solutions" for live streaming. I'll tell you right now, Stream Yard is the best of the best. It combines supreme ease of use along with unmatched functionality. So, go ahead. You can start streaming high-quality, professional live shows for free. Yes, I said it. For free, with Stream Yard right now. Visit this website, and do this after the show over. Take notes while the show is going. So write this down R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. Fantastic. Now let's get to the real fun, and the fun is these amazing people. Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. How are you all doing tonight? Thank you for being on this amazing show. Yes. So, what I'd like to do is open it up. Let the folks get to know you just a little bit now. Ok, guys. We're talking sixty seconds or less. All right. Just lay it low here, but we'll just go and order. I usually go ladies first, but let's just go around the circle. It's easier for me who's running the show. So. That's what's important. Right? So, let's start with Dylan Shinholser. Go ahead. Take it away. Give us a little brief background about you, what you do, and your business.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. So like I said, my name is Dylan Shinhoser. I own a couple of different businesses. I'm owner of a company called, "Experience Events", which is event management. I'm also a director of business development at a virtual event, event ticketing, and virtual event platform called, "ViewStub". As well as a co-host of another show called, "Event Masters", where I just ramble all day, every day about how to produce better experiences. It's really all I know and love to do is events. That is my less than 60-second pitch about myself.
Brian Kelly:
That's a good one, too. I'll tell everybody I've spoken with you in person. We had a call some time ago, and this gentleman, Dylan, is made of integrity and great character. So, reach out to him if you need any assistance in any of the areas he talked about, or if you just want to say hi to a really great guy. Then get in contact with him, and at the end of the show, we'll go through that. Please. Somebody remind me if I forget how to contact each of you. Because that's very important to me. This is the reason I bring this show to the forefront. (It) is to bring people like you into the lives of those who may not know who you are yet, and even those that do, to experience even more of your brilliance, your experience, your knowledge, and your value. It's not about me. This is about you. Always, always. Every time. I have one guest, usually. I just feel like I'm in this big family right now. But let's keep moving. Julie Riley, amazing young woman. Take it away.
Julie Riley:
Yes. So, I am Julie Riley. I am the social media manager at StreamYard. The platform we're using right now. Prior to my time with StreamYard, I owned my own marketing agency. I've been in digital marketing since two thousand and seven. So the very, very early days of the start of it is when I jumped in(to) digital marketing, and I love just being able to help others succeed in their business.
Brian Kelly:
Fantastic, and I will also say that I have spoken with Julie in the past. Both through a typewritten chat form and verbally. I think it was Clubhouse first time, which was phenomenal. Yet another phenomenal person, incredible integrity, and character. And yes, you're going to notice there's a pattern about this with the remaining two. It's the same thing. Hopefully, we can get the last one to talk a little bit. That will be nice. I'm just having fun because we were having fun before the show started. The one smiling. The biggest down there with the green hood; not pointing anyone out or anything. Thank you, Julie, for coming on. Yes. These people, Julie and Christian specifically, I know Christians coming up here in second. They're non-stop. They don't stop working. It's evident because of the very software research we're using right now. It's of grand quality for a reason. It's because of people like Julian Christian who keep everything rolling smoothly on the back end. Dylan's there nodding his head emphatically because he gets it. It's a lot of work, and they're doing it masterfully and we appreciate you. All right. Enough of the favoritism here that felt like favoritism. Julie's our favorite. Timothy McNeely! My buddy, my friend from just a little north of where I reside. I believe. If I remember.
Timothy McNeely:
Central California, baby. Bakersfield. Yeah, my name is Tim McNeely. Today, so many dentists and driven entrepreneurs are just not sure if they're getting advice that really makes a difference for them. They may have a financial adviser who is giving them some advice on their investment portfolio, but they're not really sure that they're on the right track to really maximize their net worth outside of their business. That's what I help them do. Maximize your net worth so that you can keep taking care of the people you love, support the causes you care about, really make that difference in the world, and build an amazing life of significance. I love doing streaming because I get to talk to some of the best of the best out there and share the knowledge with the beautiful entrepreneurial community.
Brian Kelly:
I'll tell you something on a personal note as well. Literally, we talked earlier today, Tim and I, on a Zoom call. He just reached out to me and said, "let's catch up." I had him on the show some time ago as a single, solo guest, and he was phenomenal. We've just kind of maintained a relationship, a friendship ever since. He just wanted to reach out and say, "Hi" and "What's up? What do you want to talk about?" We just started talking about business and things. He gave me resources that will help me in my business, and hopefully, I reciprocated it somehow. I don't know if I did, but it is the people like Tim, like Julie, like Dylan, like Christian. That is the cloth that they are all cut from. They are here to help people. That's why I love entrepreneurs. I love all of you. I mean it. I do. I love you. You guys are amazing. I didn't even get a crack at a Christian on that one. Jeez, I mean... there we go. That's a little better, but I'm telling you, he's working on StreamYard our stuff right now as we're on the show. I mean, I'm.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm really trying not to, seriously.
Brian Kelly:
The founder Geige Vandentop. If you ever watch this, there's a message to you. Ease up on your people. Alright? Just having fun. Alright, Timothy, you're an amazing guy. Thank you for spending your valuable time and coming on here. As well as Dylan, Julie, and the ever so talkative one, Christian. I'm not going to attempt to say your last name. I'll let you take care of that one. Welcome to the show, Christian. Let's hear all about your brilliance.
Christian Karasiewicz:
Sure. Thanks a lot for having me. My name is Christian Kerasiewicz. I'm the content marketing manager at StreamYard. So, pretty much anything you see on our blog that we're going to soon be launching. I'm the mastermind behind that. So, I do that. In addition to that, I also host live stream reviews, a YouTube show. We also do on the StreamYard YouTube channel where we invite people on to talk about their live streams and help them work through some of their problems, some of their challenges that they might be having with getting community or building a show. Thanks a lot for having me. I appreciate it.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, my gosh. Thank you again, Christian, for your time and being here. I mean, he's literally building a blog while on a live show. I mean, that's a great thing. I'm not even kidding with this one. That is phenomenal. That is showing such dedication. So, it's more than that. It's passion. It's love. You know? What time is that where you are, Christian?
Christian Karasiewicz:
About 9 o'clock, or yeah... about 9 o'clock.
Brian Kelly:
(Nine o'clock) PM. Ladies and gentlemen, in case you're watching this recording. Yes. By the way, I'm going to be on twenty-five different platforms after this is over. So no pressure, but don't mess up. I'm just kidding. So, this is a phenomenal group of people, and I can't wait to dig in. Christian, just what you just said, what you do is right down the alley of what I was hoping to talk about tonight. It'll go organically, but I wanted to talk about... I mean, look at Julie, and look at Christian, and look at their images. Look at their video. It is gorgeous. Here, we'll start with a really gorgeous one first. Look at that. I mean. If there were nose hairs that weren't in place, we'd see them. That's phenomenal, and there is Julie. Wow. Very beautiful. Even more beautiful. I should just have her up like this all the time, and we can just talk in the background. Because, you know, maybe more people would come on. So, you guys have phenomenal camera setups, and here's one thing I always like to preach to those who are getting into the live streaming game. Does it take money? Yes, it does. It takes resources. It takes cameras, microphones, (a) computer, internet, good internet, fast internet, lighting, doesn't have to be fancy. What I always say though, is, do the best you can with the resources you currently have. OK, I wanted to start it off that way because what we're about to talk about with Julie and Christian is their cameras. They are top of the line. We're not talking a one-hundred or two-hundred-dollar webcam here. I like to let ladies go first. So, Julie, do you have a story when you first turned on your new camera versus when you had the webcam and what that looked like and felt like.
Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh, I turned that camera on, and it was immediately noticeable (the difference). I actually did a live on my personal Facebook page where I logged myself in as a second user into StreamYard. I had my Logitech camera that I had been using up as a camera and then had my new one. So, I could do back and forth and show everybody the difference between the two. What an upgrade that was. The Logitech served me great for years. It didn't stop me from going live, but that upgrade was immediately like, "oh, I can never go back down now".
Brian Kelly:
So, that so that is one thing. Let's say you're on the road, and I can imagine at some point both you and Christian, maybe, you'll be sent on the road to maybe support conventions and things that are on the road. Now, you want to stream live, what are you going to do then?
Julie Riley:
Well, you know, the great thing about the Sony is (that) it's a small camera. Tripods, portable ones, are small. I can take it with me. If all else fails, and I'm either on my phone or I'm on my little webcam or even my built in webcam, it's not going to stop me from going live. Is it going to be exactly what I want? No, but more than likely I'll have the Sony with me.
Brian Kelly:
Thank you for saying that. I mean, that spoke such volumes. I hope people are taking notes that are watching. Definitely take notes on this. Because, look, the show must go on. That's what I say, and this show tonight is the result of a guest who unfortunately was ill and could not make it on. So, I scrambled and found these four wonderful people to say, "I'll come on and do a panel with you." And that's it. The show must go on, and I'm going to either do it with people or I'll do it solo. It doesn't matter. Consistency is key, and we can talk more about that, too. I love how you're just talking about, Julie. Where, look, I don't care where I'm at. If I've got something and it's my time to go live, and I don't have my gear. I'm doing it.
Julie Riley:
Right.
Brian Kelly:
I love that commitment. So, thank you for that. For everyone listening, that's important. Yes, quality is important. Like I said, do the best you can with what resources you currently have. That includes, wherever you are. You may have a DSL camera that Julie paid five-hundred thousand dollars for. Oh, sorry, it wasnt that much.
Julie Riley:
Thank God it wasnt that much!
Brian Kelly:
What was the model of that again?
Julie Riley:
A6000.
Brian Kelly:
What does it run about?
Julie Riley:
It was about seven hundred.
Brian Kelly:
OK, not too bad. A little bit less than five-hundred thousand. Not much but yeah.
Julie Riley:
Yeah.
It's a phenomenal thing, and I love that that's your attitude toward commitment. I'll tell you. You have a similar attitude...anytime I go and ask for support through the back side of StreamYard community. I mean, like through messaging. When I say the backside, that's sounded weird. When I ask for support, you're always there. I mean, you don't sleep, and I appreciate that. So, keep not sleeping for everybody's sake. Christian, you do the same. So, Christian, what about you? When you made that initial change from whatever camera you had before to this unbelievably clear one year look you're working with right now. What did that feel like the moment you saw a difference?
Christian Karasiewicz:
So, it's very interesting actually. So, this is actually what I was using before. I've been using this for quite a number of years. This is a Logitech Brio. It does do 4K. I invested in this one and eventually came out, and the quality was fantastic. The only thing was, though. I wanted to scale. So this was great for traveling, for example. This is what I took around with me. Super portable. It's got the ability to put it on a tripod. Fantastic, but it did not allow me to scale, so I had to always take up another USB port and all that sort of thing. When I moved to the Sony, the Sony looked very good. I will say the one thing you have to do, though, is you need to go through the settings. There are a few adjustments you want to change. That's what's going to actually enhance your picture quality of it. It's a fantastic camera. It's a Sony 6400. Then, really, the other side to it is also the lens. So I'm using a Sigma lens. So, that I think is the real big difference. I mean you have the kit lenses it comes with. I did make the investment in the the additional lens, which I think that's actually what's contributing to why it looks so good. I will say from a quality standpoint, again, start with what you have. You know, the key things for live streaming. Audio is going to be your most important part. Then also, if you, for example, are using one of these webcams, make sure you have enough light. These things look great with a lot of light. When you don't have a lot of light, you're going to see pixelation. You're going to see distortion and things like that. So, turn it back to you.
Brian Kelly:
Especially with light, if you turn on the green screen feature, you really need to have good lighting then. That's the biggest time. I'm so glad to be liberated from that. Even though I loved it. This is actually a natural well behind me. I painted the entire studio. I actually occupy my daughter's former bedroom. I've been here for four or five years now, and I finally got rid of the cartoon drawings and the yellow paint. I'm a real boy now. I have a real studio. This is awesome.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That looks really good by the way. I was very surprised (by) your background because that looks like one of the standard backgrounds people would normally bring up during a live stream. One that has, you know, the gradient going around the outside. So, whoever did the painting on that fantastic job.
Brian Kelly:
Why, thank you very much. My wife did most of the work to be honest, but I feel like that helps with that. Yeah.
Timothy McNeely:
If you want that comparison between cameras. Right. Christine was just talking about the Logitech Brio. That's what I'm on, and you can see the massive quality difference between Kristen and Julie versus the webcam. So. Right. (A) huge step up.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, we'll point that out in glowing detail right now.
Christian Karasiewicz:
You're using a green screen. Right?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
Your sound, Christian, is smooth. I mean, you have a great radio voice. Having that microphone, I think will pivot to that too. Dylan, what are your thoughts on cameras? Yours looks actually really decent right now? You're on (a) green screen, correct?
Dylan Shinholser:
Correct. Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
It looks really clean. You've done a good job with all the lighting. It's almost like you've done this before, and you know what you're doing.
Dylan Shinholser:
I try. Yeah. So, I actually when I first started doing it, I started listening back on my phone. When this whole pandemic hit, I was using the one inside your laptop and realized very quickly (that) I'm on calls all day, live streaming shows and stuff. I was like, "I got to set my game up." So, I haven't made that leap yet to the DSLR, but I will. I'm on a Logitech, one of the models. I won't even lie because I'm not that tech-savvy. It was expensive for Logitech, so I bought it. I was like, "it's got to work." So, yeah. So, that's where I'm at. I agree heavily. I think it comes down to, because we get asked it and I know you guys get asked, it comes down to what you can afford at the moment. Then always trying to push the limits of production value. Right? My background was a wall. It was just like random yellow wall, and now I have a giant green screen wallpaper now. So, now, I can be wherever I want which is a concert. That's where I want to be, and that's where I'm going to be.
Brian Kelly:
You're the one on the stage, brother. Not the audience.
Dylan Shinholser:
No, I'm actually the guy behind the stage. I never want to be this. It's actually weird for me to be in front of people. I'm the guy behind the stage telling people to get on the stage.
Brian Kelly:
Pushing them forward. Well, you do a good job, Dylan. I wouldn't know any different. Maybe your calling is to step out from behind and be on front more often.
Dylan Shinholser:
We will see. Twenty twenty-one has a lot of stuff, and I've got a long way to go. I got super bored in twenty-twenty so I might as well talk.
Brian Kelly:
I've gotten to know you a little bit over time, and you've got a great personality. I think you need to shine in front of more people. That's my humble opinion.
Dylan Shinholser:
I appreciate that.
In the front, not behind the scenes. It's okay to be behind the scenes on occasion, but someone like you with your personality and your integrity, your character...get out there, buddy. It's a disservice if we don't get to see you. Let me put it that way.
That's what a mentor of mine said. He was like, "dude, you're actually being selfish by not talking more and getting it out." Because like I said at the beginning, I only want to help more people create better experiences and events. Make them flow better and make them more money as humanly possible. At the end of the day, I just want to travel the world with cool people and do cool things. I've learned a lot, and a lot of people need some of that experience. So, I got a stern talking to by one of my mentors. He was like, "dude..." I was like, "alright, it's alright. I promise." I started live streaming then had to get better cameras, better lights going on. It's crazy up here in my little command center of all these different lights, webcams, and monitors. Everything you need to do to pull these shows off.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I love it. Christian, go ahead.
Christian Karasiewicz:
So, I want to throw something in there real quick. We talked about various types of cameras. If you're just getting started, use that built-in laptop, the webcam. So then you can take it up a notch. You can go to the Logitech. The C922. That's about, I think, a 60 to 70 dollar webcam. So, don't overpay by the way. It's about 60 to 70 dollars. Get it from Logitec, probably. If you find an astronomical price on Amazon, move up to like the Brio, for example. If your budget allows it, that's about one hundred fifty dollar camera. Then move up to a DSLR. For example, Julie's got that, the Sony 6000. I would also say if you happen to have a smartphone, this can be used as a webcam. Essentially, if you think about it, this is a thousand dollar camera. Because you paid a thousand dollars for this device of sorts, and this will give you some phenomenal picture quality. If you already have a smartphone and you don't have to have the latest iPhone, it could be pretty much any iPhone and Android phone. You just need an app such as one called,"Camo." There's one called,"Erion." So, there are lots of apps out there. Don't think like, "hey, I have to now go drop a bunch of money." Look at the phones you have lying around. Those are going to be great ways to fix your picture quality.
Julie Riley:
I've been going live since 2015, and I only had this camera last year.
Brian Kelly:
That's it. You keep reinvesting. I had a good friend of mine who were business partners. He said, I'll never forget it,"sales drive service". When you're making money, you're able to invest. You're able to up your game, and I love that. So many great points. You can just set a phone on a tripod and your camera will look better than many people's webcams. For sure. One of the things that I would recommend, this isn't just a plug StreamYard, is to get at least get the free plan. Do they need any more than the free plan to be part of the community, Julie?
Julie Riley:
No. They can come to join the community even if they're just getting started into streaming. We do like everybody to have the free plan so they have an understanding, but we'll still let you in. Agree to the rules. That's the big thing. Yeah, come join the StreamYard community. It's really a "stream yard" community.
Brian Kelly:
It's a very valuable place because questions like what Christian just addressed are often asked (What do I need?). I'm just starting. I'm a newbie. I see that so much in there. What can you do to help with a camera or microphone or computer? You can go there if you have those questions and ask, and the community will fill in the blanks wonderfully well because they're a great bunch of people. Just like Tim down there who's gotten pushed to the side for a while. So, Tim, is this your first camera that you've been using for live streaming so far? Did you have one before it?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah, right. I started with just an HD one. Right. Logitech and then jumped up to the Brio. Been happy with that so far. But, you know, it's interesting how the game keeps growing again. That's the thing, right? Just get started! Just do this. I started with just using zoom and recording those for my interviews, and then I realized (that) I need a better platform. I need a way to kind of do that live production. Now I'm doing Stream Yard and got intros. Just get started with whatever you've got and kind of build that proof of concept. You know, I recently just upgraded my lights because I bought the cheapest lights I could at first. I just wanted to do something, and done is better than not done a lot of times.
Brian Kelly:
I totally agree with everything you just said and like what Christian was saying. If you're going to put money into anything, make it the audio side of things first when you upgrade. I was fortunate. I started over nine years ago streaming live. This is a DSLR. Not a DSLR. Good grief, XLR microphone. It's old school. It's not even USB. So I plug it into a mixer board, and from there into my computer. I've used it for years. It's been just amazing. I've never had to do anything with my sound as a result. For you, there are great USB alternatives now. Oh my gosh, there are so many out there. Someone like Christian could probably point you in the right way. Someone like the StreamYard community could push you in the right way and tell you,"these are the ones". I have a connection with the guy who is a sound expert. I've never heard of this before. He has a studio that does 4D sound. I don't even know what that means. Four dementional?
Christian Karasiewicz:
Sweet.
I don't know what that means, audibly. He was telling me about speakers in the ceiling. I'm like, holy moly,. You don't need that obviously for a talk show like this, but think about the possibilities and have fun with it. The bottom line is, when you go on and go live. Enjoy yourself. I'm trying to do that a little bit with these fine people tonight. Thankfully, they're still here with me. I haven't upset them too great, especially Christian. I keep picking on him. Poor guy. I appreciate you all, and it's okay to have fun on your show. Would you guys agree with that? Is it okay to have a little bit of fun?
Julie Riley:
One hundred percent. If you're having fun, your audience is going to be having fun with you.
If you're not having fun... I don't believe in doing anything that I don't find fun. It's a life motto of mine. If I don't want to do it, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Like you said, Julie. If you're not having fun with it, then how in the world do you expect the viewers to want to have fun or engage or interact? It starts with you.
Brian Kelly:
Absolutely, absolutely. One of the things I wanted to pivot to is something I'm deeply interested in because the product that came up earlier when I did the quick ads spot. I like to solve the pain points that people are having in their live streaming experiences. I'm curious. I'll bet, Julie and Christian, you guys have seen and heard a lot about that. I actually had a team member of mine from my company put a poll up in the form of a meme, a graphic. What's the right word? I am having trouble with words these days. It's an infograph. That's it. Simple. I was a little bit shocked by the result, but I was just curious what you guys think. What are the biggest pain points you're seeing? (Either) that you're having individually. Tim, if you have that as well. Dylan as well. Dylan, you probably hear about a bunch of it as well. What are the pain points you are seeing come back over and over and over again? I'm having a horrible time trying to find another guest on my show if they're interview style, or the tech is just blowing my mind. Even though StreamYard is so simple. I'm having trouble with x, y, z. Let's just go around the horn. Dylan, if you don't mind, I put you on the spot. Can you think of any of those pain points that keep coming up over and over again?
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. The biggest thing I see is they underestimate what it does take. I totally agree. Why I promote StreamYard to our clients and everyone I possibly can is because of the ease of use. People go into it and think shows are just like setting up the webcam, and they can be. Setting up the webcam and just talking. Right? There's a lot of back end stuff to this. These shows and I'm learning that as doing my own now. I'm like, holy cow, I'm about to hire fifteen people because this is absurd. But, yeah. I think that's the biggest thing that I see is underestimating it, but also at the same time, they overcomplicate it. They have to think (that) they have to have all these bells and whistles and seventeen thousand cameras and two million dollar microphones. It goes back to our first point of "just do it". It doesn't need to be overcomplicated, but understand going into it, there is some work that takes and understand that you do have to respect what it takes to put these on. At the same time, don't overcomplicate it. It's funny how people work. They overestimate or underestimate it, but then heavily overcomplicate it at the same time. I think that's the biggest one I see.
Brian Kelly:
I'm so glad you brought that up. I've said this so many times, people don't realize what goes on behind the scenes before the show even comes on live for that episode. The amount of time and effort. If you want to do a live show that's of quality and represent yourself and your brand in a way that you want it to be represented professionally. It takes a good amount of work for every single show. That's why I automated nearly every process (that) I use now. It took time to get there, but you can use a team. You can get a team. Like you said, Dylan, to also help out. For me, it's all about quality, and more time is spent before the show by far than the show itself. After the show is over, another good deal of time is spent. That is in the minor edits, the repurposing, the marketing, and everything else that goes beyond. The live show is this tiny window of time, and it's the fun is part of it by the way. When you have everything automated, the rest is not "not fun" because you're not doing it. It's all automated, but definitely great. Thank you for that. Julie, what has been some of the big p.. sorry to wake you up there. What have been some of the big pain points? You are wide awake. I just starttled you. You've seen over and over, I bet you've seen a bunch of them.
Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh. So many, you know, especially because I'm approving all of the comments that are coming into the group. I think one of the huge ones is that the hesitation of people who believe that they have to have everything perfect. That they have to have all of the backdrops, the overlays, the banners, the super expensive microphone, and the super expensive camera. That they have it. The room behind them is messy. They haven't thought about turning to just a blank wall because they're like, "well, then I don't have a fancy studio set up." They get to this point where they're trying to create perfection, and perfection is a fairy tale. It doesn't exist. There is no such thing as perfection. There is, again, where Dylan said the overcomplicating it. They've got to really just slow down and go, "what do I need to get this process going?" What is the minimum to make it happen? From there, then I can then build on it, and build on it each week. Go, "okay, I got live. I got the first one out. I got the jitters out. I hate the way I sound." When I had my agency, I would tell my clients. They'd be like, "I can't stand the way I sound." I'm like, nobody likes the way (that) they sound. There's actually, and I say this all the time, there's a term for it that is a term for not liking the sound of your own voice. I tell people, you have to get over that fear. They're like,"I don't look good on camera, I don't know how to be on camera." The other thing I tell people is to set up a fake Facebook group with nobody else in it but you. Go live in there a bunch of times and just get those jitters out. Get that feeling of pressing the button and going live. Then invite your husband in, your sister, your mother, or whoever. Somebody so that you're talking to somebody. From there, build up each time. As we said with the cameras, again, you can you can slowly build. You can slowly add in the overlays. You can slowly add in the backgrounds.
Brian Kelly:
My goodness! I absolutely love it. I have my own Facebook group that I use just for that. Nothing more. I go in there, and I test things for StreamYard and other things in there. I go live in there because there's no substitute for going live. We've got more buttons to click, and things kind of change their arrangement just a little bit in the window. If you practiced it 20 times without going live, then you go live you're going to go, "what the heck just happened?" I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. That was perfect. Perfect advice. I love that. We've got a comment coming in or two or three. Yeah. Kelly, crucial. Kruschel. Sorry if I got that wrong.
Dylan Shinholser:
Kelly Kruschel. It's Kruschel. She said she's on my team. She's a friend. Hey, we've got a supporter.
Brian Kelly:
Love it. Love it. Then Fran Jesse, I know her. I'm getting ready to make my first video essentially input. Yeah. Reach out, Fran. We're friends. I will give you assistance in any way you want because this is the greatest this is the greatest avenue for media on the planet, in my humble opinion, for so many reasons. One is people get to see you. I love clubhouse. It's also phenomenal in different ways, but people get to see you. They get to interact with you. They can engage with you, and they get to see your essence. It doesn't cost you, the studio owner, studio time. If you do this in the old days when you have to go to a television studio and you want to do a show, it would cost you thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars just to use the studio. Let alone get the media time to put it up on a television station. We're living in wonderful times. It's the greatest time to be alive, in my humble opinion. I'm a tech geek. I'm not young anymore. I'm fifty six, but I can't wait for the rest of what my life has to hold. Yes. You're welcome, Fran. Any time. Wonderful. Wonderful. Alright. Where were we? I got all messed up and loving myself there. We're going to have fun. I'm being real. This is like... I don't know. I'm the most relaxed (that) I've been in a long time with everything that went on today. It was one of those weird, everything-going crazy days. I feel like I'm at home with you guys. That's why.
Dylan Shinholser:
It's been one of those years.
Brian Kelly:
Thank God that last one is over.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, yeah. Sure.
Brian Kelly:
So, okay. Pain point. Let's go back around one more. Tim, what do you have?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah. When I first started doing this, my whole goal was to get out there and to talk to the different experts in the different areas of the challenges that my my clients face. I started off as an interview show and just using Zoom to record the video. Then all of a sudden I had the video. Now I had to put an intro in. I had to put an exit in. I had to extract the audio so I could do the podcast. My team members and myself were spinning our wheels. Just trying to really kind of create a workflow around the creation of this content so we could get the message out and help people with their challenges. For me, all of a sudden, the revelation was (that) I can do this live. I can have people type in (and) ask comments as I'm doing the show. Not only that, from start to finish, I can produce the whole thing going live. Right? You go live. You can play an intro now. You can throw in little commercial breaks. You can throw in the outro, and then it's done. Download the audio. You throw it up, and now you've got your podcast. You don't have to upload video to YouTube and Facebook and LinkedIn. It's done for you now, automatically. So really my biggest pain point was just the production side of things and putting everything together so that I could keep talking to people and doing the fun part. Right? I don't want to get caught up in all the details of making this. I want to talk to people, learn, and share that knowledge. Really, a lot of the pain point, just using StreamYard has really been absolved because it's a turn-key easy to use platform.
Brian Kelly:
Amen to all of that brother. Here's the key for everyone that's ever going to do a live show or has done one. The most important part is that you show up and you be the talent. That means you need to be dedicated mentally toward what the task is at hand. If I have too many things going on, like production-wise, which I used to when I didn't automate things. That's in the back of my mind. Did I dot every "i"? Did I cross every "t"? What's going to screw up on this show? Versus showing up fully for my guest. Being there for them. Getting out of myself and my own business and being present for the other person, that's what I'm about. Lifting up the other people, that's what my show's about. It's important to me.
Timothy McNeely:
Actually, if I can touch on that talent piece, Brian? I think he brought something up so important for everyone listening to this. If you're doing any kind of a show where you're interviewing people, chances are (that) the person you're talking to (is) a little bit uncomfortable. Your job, as the talent, is to spend some time before the show really crafting what it's going to look like. What direction are you going to go in? You want to make that person you're talking to look like a star. The more you can rehearse with them and put them at ease, you're going to end up with a much, much better show. Because you've taken a little bit of time to make sure that (the) other person is going to shine just as bright as you do. So, take that time to work with your guests beforehand through interview guides, through little questionnaires. So that you can help prep them, to keep them on a thread, and you can really help them deliver their message. Most people are not trained professional speakers. They just aren't. I've hired some of the best speaking coaches to help me develop messages, stay on topic, and learn how to tell stories. People don't invest time, energy, and effort to do that. You can help them do that through a briefing before you start your live with them.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. That's why I was saying before, I do a thirty-minute preshow. All of us were on here for 30 minutes getting to know each other, making sure all the tech was good, doing some checkout. You were talking about people being nervous and stuff. That's why I'm riding Christian so hard with all these jokes and stuff because it broke his nervousness. You can see his sweating. I am so kidding. This guy's raw. He's a rock. He's awesome. He's a pro. I love this guy, man. I always pick on the quiet ones. I don't know why that is. Christian, man, you're bringing massive value. All kidding aside, you're very experienced. You're matched for what you do. You've said already so many amazing things. What about you, brother?
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'd say this. I think a couple of the pain points. I think one is people want to ask, "how do I get better at my live stream?" I think (that) the first thing is practice. To Julie's point, I think you mentioned having overlays, backgrounds, and all this other stuff. Look at it like this. You want to show your audience as well while you're helping them. You're doing this with them. You have everything at the same time, and you're trying to make everything perfect. Your audience is going to be like, "I'm not going to stick around this person because they've done such a good job already. I won't ever get to that point". They start having that self-doubt. The key thing is going to be practice. You don't have to have every single one of the overlays. Maybe start with the the intro or the thumbnail, and maybe you have an outro for example. (Those are) the first two things you do. As you build the show, then you can add segment graphics. You can add videos. So, you can scale it, but you don't have to have so much at one time because then it's just too overwhelming. That's point number one. Pain point number two is that people, for some reason, think that they're going to immediately be able to monetize their live stream. I say pain point because everybody's like, "oh, I bought all that equipment." Now, you've got to figure out how to pay for all that equipment, you know? If you're struggling already with your business and growing it, then you're not going to immediately monetize live stream. You have to have an audience. You know, you have to build that community. When you go live, they're tuning in because (of) the social platforms. They want to see that you're bringing viewers, they want to see engagement. So, point number two is monetizing your live stream. There are ways to do that, but don't always set out with monetization being number one. It could take a couple of years to monetize. So, get started. Build on it, then make those investments as your business is growing. Yes, mic drop. Yes.
Dylan Shinholser:
Do you have that mic? Just a mic drop? Because I might need to get one.
Brian Kelly:
It's actually super.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, super real.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That's pretty cool, actually.
Julie Riley:
I like that.
Brian Kelly:
It's actually part of a magic trick that you put in a paper bag. It's a long story, but I found one more affordable that would not break my keyboard because that's what it landed on. You didn't hear it. Oh, my gosh. Golden nuggets there, as usual, from Christian who I give a lot of hard time to. I'm going to stop because you're amazing dude, and I don't want to get mad at me. I want you to be my friend. So many great things. So, you said two years. I was like, wow. I was watching an interview. How many of you have heard of Lewis Howes? Former professional football player and turned incredible entrepreneur. He's all over the place. He was being interviewed, and the guy interviewing him asked him a question. He said, "so, Lewis, if someone came to you, and they were talking about the fact they wanted to start a podcast. Now, we're talking just the audio version. That's what a podcast really is for everyone that may not know it's audio-only. Not video, even though they're going that way." He said, "well, here's what I'd tell them. First, you got to actually be consistent. Whenever you decide to do it, do it at that same day and that same time every week or multiple times a week. Whatever that happens to be. Number two, more importantly. You must commit yourself to doing that for at least, the magic number, two years. If they are not willing to do that, I would tell them, don't even get started." We didn't talk about monetization. None of that was discussed during this Q&A. That was telling. Who was I talking about this earlier with earlier today? It's not necessarily about monetizing. It's about building your platform, and I wanted to add to that. It took me in two years. I was just hitting that moment in time of my live show. That's when the momentum started. He was spot on, and so are you, Christian, about the two years. Then using a certain strategy (that) I use, I continually ask for referrals in a certain way. I eventually landed the one and only Les Brown. Some of you know who that is. Some of you don't. I've noticed some don't and Im like,"what rock are you living under?" He's amazing, and he's been on my show. Because of that, the two-year commitment is my point. Not talking about monetization. Then what I found after doing this for two years and striving for excellence all the time in every facet, I'm talking about the preshow communication with upcoming guests and the setup and the prep that they all go through and my system makes sure they do. The show itself and then after the show, all the post-production, everything that goes into it. Once you have that, people notice and my show, without my intending it to be, became an incredible, powerful lead magnet for my business. Focus, just as Christian was stating so properly, does definitely, positively impact your business. If you do it right. You do it high quality, and again, within reason within the resources you have. Go ahead, Christian.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I was going to say. That's another point that people look at, and they want to generate revenue off of it. That revenue may not be actual money upfront. It may end up being (help) (to) drive more leads to my website. It's not necessarily driving more people to my social channels. You're following is... It's OK. That's not going to necessarily grow your business because you had five more followers on Instagram or something like that. It's potentially getting them back to your website, which can be an opportunity for them to schedule a coaching call with you, maybe buy a product from you, learn from you for example. You're not going to get every single person to become a customer, but you're going to be able to use it to generate more leads.
Brian Kelly:
Totally, totally true.
Dylan Shinholser:
That's why I do it.
Brian Kelly:
You see on the top of this screen "streaming live on" and then five. We're doing it to eight right now or seven right now. "Listen-on" down below. On the bottom, there's actually twenty five of those like us could fit them all. Roku now was on Fire TV. Look, you're not making money from those, but here's what happened. How many of you have heard of Kevin Harrington? Shark Tank? Original Shark Tank? He has a partner named, "Seth Green", and they do a podcast together. They've been doing it for years now. They have five-hundred plus episodes. We got introduced, Seth and I. I met Kevin. We shared the stage once. I'm not name-dropping, but yes, I am. It was awesome, and it was fun. Seth reached out. We were connected by someone else. We were introduced, and Seth did his own homework. He came back, we literally talked on Zoom, and he says, "wow, I did some research. I looked you up and, my God, you're everywhere." I just wanted to say, "yeah, that's right." So, you want to get out there. That's why, shameless plug, I call it, "carpet bomb marketing". You saturate with everything you've got within reason. Right? If you can automate it, it can be near or completely free. So just do it. Why not add it to your arsenal? So, it works. Just be consistent to a minimum of two years. Get in touch with people like Julie, Christian, Tim, and Dylan. You might make that even quicker than two years. I'll direct you to the shortcuts that many of us did by trial and error.
Timothy McNeely:
Touching on the monetization piece, a good friend of mine runs one of the top coaching consultancies out there. Right. Very, very successful. Runs a great podcast, great show. I ask him one day. I said, "have you need any money doing your podcast?" He thought for a second. He says, "naw, I've actually lost money doing it. The relationships that I've made...I've made millions off (of) that." If you approach it from that standpoint... There's different goals, but I always approach, you know, what's the end result? What are you looking for out of your show? Why are you doing it? That's how you can measure the success of it. Is it helping you achieve whatever goals you set for yourself?
Brian Kelly:
Totally agree. It's very similar. Isn't it? To writing a book? I'm holding up another namedrop. Yes, it's very similar to writing your own book. Because a lot of people want to write a book and make a living off of the sales of the book. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, most of the time it just doesn't happen that way. If anyone comes up to you and you're talking to them... During the course of conversation, maybe you ask them what they've been up to? Or, hey, I've authored a book. The moment they say that, in your eyes, do they not lift up in an influence in your mind? Right then and there? Instantly. It builds authority. That's exactly what this live show, and live shows like it, are doing. When you're giving evidence of it by spitting it out to all of these platforms, there's no way people can't find you and know that you're serious. You know, it's showing that you have a commitment level. It's showing that you have a quality level of professionalism. It's not about the show itself. It's like, well, if I do business with that person, or will I... Will I want to do business that person? If they're professional. Yes. If they put on a shoddy show, they might give me shoddy service. If I do business with them. Does that make sense? People want to (be) representing yourself in the best. Do it the best you can, but do it. Please, don't delay. Don't try to be perfect. You heard everybody talk. Go ahead, Dylan. You had something?
Dylan Shinholser:
Well, yeah. There's indirect ways to make money with shows, live streams, and of course direct (ways). Right. Direct is selling sponsorships, ad-space, all that good stuff. The indirect monetization is so much more powerful. When I do shows or when I hop on shows or anything, it's literally just to build a top-down awareness of myself. I just want people to know what Dylan Shinholser is. Then that way, because I do multiple things, I'm never trying to sell one product at any given time. I'm trying to sell myself, and what it does is it gives me that outlet to do it. Then if you're hosting a show. Right? This maybe goes into some other topics around how to market and things like that. It's a powerful relationship tool because when you can open your platform to other people that you're looking to connect with. I'm in the business of working with influencers and throwing their events. Well, the best way to connect was get them on my show. It gave me a reason to reach out that wasn't pitchy or sales. It was more or less. Hey, man, I just want to give you an outlet, because I think what you talk about is cool. Tell my people about it. After the show, I was like, "hey, man, what are you doing next Tuesday? I need a speaker." Or "hey, man. I have some ideas (that) I want to pitch you or (some) things. They're more receptive. So, I always do shows and things not about the direct money I get, but the indirect thing. It's the indirect impact that I get from relationships, or people sharing my stuff out and people go, oh man, he sounds semi-intelligent unless they're watching this. Then then they'll go, okay, great. Let me go over to this platform that he runs with this business that he does or whatever because he sounded halfway intelligent on that show. Right? So, I think the indirect monetization is what most people don't... They don't get that the instant gratification of like that five thousand dollars sponsorship check. When I forgo that and go on to bring on much more money on the backend with the people I connect with, in the top influence that I get.
Brian Kelly:
The magic word there was "relationship".
Dylan Shinholser:
Relationships all day, every day. That's all I do- is build relationships, and how can I do it? Do more shows like this. Can I get it out? You're on like forty-two different podcast or outlets here, right? Every one of those. Every time you put a show on it, you're building a relationship with someone on that platform. Even if it's just you talking, and they're listening. You're building that relationship. Everything (that) I do, is built on: how can I develop relationships? Live streams is just an amazing way to do so.
Brian Kelly:
Posting them is one thing. Right? That's a great thing. What I learned through a podcasting expert friend of mine is the maybe not as equally important, but possibly greater importance, is getting on other people's shows. That includes audio podcasts only. He explained how his business skyrocketed when he did what he called, "podcast guest marathons". He would have someone get him booked in his team. He would carve out three days and just say get as many as you can for me. He'd do that. Then when they ask him about how to get in contact with him... This is the gold right here... It's not go to my Facebook page and look up my name and message me. He would tell them to go to his podcast website and from there to subscribe. Now he's building a following. It's genius. It's so genius. I just want to impart that. The cool thing, though, is when you're hosting a high-quality live show that opens the door for you to be a guest on many more.
Dylan Shinholser:
Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Being a guest is what goes back to the authority building. Right? If I can build my authority, I build my influence. If I do have something to sell... If I'm trying to build my brand or whatever it is or I'm just trying to get to as many people as possible to talk about events with them... That authority I call it, "authority hacking", being able to get them on your show. That'll get your show in front of their audience, and then going on to other shows helps you develop your authority. It's like writing a book. I was I'm a guest on this show, this show, this show. It's like writing a book. Your authority starts to become a little bit more when you're leveraging their influence. Right? When you're a guest on the show, if that show has a following, you becoming a guest on that show gives you authority because now you have the validation of the host that everyone is following and love. So, I can authority hack by getting on other people's shows.
Brian Kelly:
It leverges. You have a whole new tribe watching and interacting with you as well. I mean, this is one of the most powerful things people can use. If they just get out of that rut of trying to find a way to make money with it directly, that's when they'll see the real value come through. It's about building relationships. It's long-term. Not short, quick kill. I got to make a commission and run. It's build a relationship. Establish it. If you go into this with the mindset of it not being for directly making money, I personally think you have greater success. The long-term plays always work better than the short-term. Short-term works can work, but they're temporary. The long-term is a lot more permanent and lasting. Just think of all the wonderful bread crumbs you're leaving throughout the world. Through all the venues and platforms we've been talking about. In speaking terms, if you're on stage, that's what we call a "stage swap". Where you would be a guest on someone else's stage in return for them saying, "okay, but I'm going to do the opposite." We'll have you on our as well. The same thing with podcasts and live video. It works really great. Just make sure they're a fit.
Dylan Shinholser:
They've got to fit. (It's) got to makes sense.
Brian Kelly:
Both ways. Yeah.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I want to add something real quick to that. If you are consistently going live, so it's great to be consistent, go live on a regular basis, but also think about the long game. It's a couple of years, for example. Also, don't be afraid to be making changes and adjustments as things are moving along. It's not about substituting equipment. It's about looking at your process. For example, you mentioned Brian, that you have automation on some of the things. Think of smarter ways to take bigger jumps ahead. If I have to send someone an email, and I'm like, "hey, do you want to be on my show?" Then I have to deal with the whole back and forth. Well, okay. Yeah. What time? Then I have to send everything back. There are tools out there like Calendly, Harmonizely. You can send a calendar link to somebody and they can only book a certain slot for example and vice versa. This takes out the guesswork out of having to do all that back and forth. That's a way to work smarter because now you want to book people for your show. You send them one link. The person then doesn't have to send you a message back, and you can even use it to collect feedback for your show questions. There's not a lot of back-and-forth and downtime.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, absolutely. I do that as well, and it's a godsend. I could not do what I'm doing. I would not do what I'm doing without the automation part of it. I have an onboarding form. You guys all... Most, not all of you went through it, but that was a mini version. Julie, you went through the big version. I then changed it right after I saw that. Like you said, make adjustments. That's what I did. I'm constantly doing that. Improving. I have a document automatically generated in Google Docs with your bio. The answer you had to why you think you would bring value to the show. Also, all the questions you chose to be asked for the show. Some of you didn't see that. So everything's done. The Q&A part used to take hours and hours doing manually. Now I just give them thirty-eight questions. Choose ten, and we're good. You tick the box. You choose what I'm going to ask you. (I) just made it a system, and it has worked beautifully. I don't even use the ten questions hardly. I use maybe the first three. Then we go organically like we've been doing tonight. My God, it's six twenty-nine! Are you kidding me? I'm having too much fun. Real quick. I know everyone that came on in the beginning. You heard this thing about a prize. We're going to do that real quick, and we'll come back and wrap it up. For those of you watching, remember in the beginning I said, "take notes and don't go clicking away and stuff like that"? Now I think Dylan, Julie, Tim, and Christian will also give you permission to do what I'm saying, and that is take out your phone. Take your gaze away from us for just a moment, but you'll still have to look back. Yes, yes. You can do this too. Please, do. What I want you to do....
Dylan Shinholser:
I need a vacation.
This is how you can enter to win a five-night stay at a five-star luxury resort of your choosing. Here's what you do. Take out your message app on your phone. Fire that up- your text message app. Where you would type in the name of the person normally that you're going to text. Instead, put in this number: three, one, four, six, six five-they're all doing it behind the scenes- one, seven, six, seven. I love this. Three, one, four, six, six, five, one, seven, six, seven. If you're watching this and you're not a guest, go ahead and write this down because I gonna take the screen down. I want you to get it. This will be open until the end of the evening. Where you actually put in the message... Where you might put emojis, those kinds of things, not emojis, just two words separated by a dash or a hyphen. Those words are peak (P-E-A-K) dash Vacation (V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N). All together. No spaces. Peak vacation. Send it off, then monitor your phone. You're going to get an automated response back asking you for your email address, and that will then officially enter you into the contest. Compliments of The Big Insider Secrets. Our buddies, Jason Nash, the owner. Dear friend of mine who lets us give this away every single week. Every show, actually. We do more than one a week now on average. So go ahead, get that entered. I can't wait to see who's going to win that. You're going to be asked later, you don't have to if you're the winner, to provide your Facebook information. Just your profile so we can say congrats and give you a high-five online and get others to come watch the show. To be honest, that's another strategy. We're just rolling back the curtain. That's why we do it this way. You can offer incentives like that. My friend has offered that to anyone who is my friend. If you're not my friend, you don't get it. If you're on as part of the panel here, they're all my friends. Christian may differ on that opinion, but I think he's my friend.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm your friend. Yes.
Brian Kelly:
Ok, good. I picked on you so hard. I apologize, but you're just you're a fun guy. I appreciate you for putting up with it. I definitely do stuff like that. Implement it and announce it in the beginning. That helps retention. I'm just pulling back the curtain for everybody. You can do different things like that. Having multiple people, I noticed, is also a little better than just one every single time. So, mix it up now and then. Alright. I know we're a little bit over, but I want to give you each another chance for a final parting tip. Anything you want on live streaming. It could be hardware, software, how you smile, what bling you wear, don't wear, your makeup. I'm wearing some, by the way, just so the guys know. Yeah, I don't know what they call it. It's not like guy up.. guy-liner, but it's like makeup. I know. That was bad.
Dylan Shinholser:
I haven't heard of that one.
Brian Kelly:
I just did that. I'm not a young fart anymore. Anyway. So, Dylan, we'll do the same thing. Go around the horn. What would be one final quick tip, or parting words of advice, you can give our wonderful viewing and listening audience?
Dylan Shinholser:
Keep it simple stupid. Don't overcomplicate it. There's things that you need to do and standards you need to meet. At the end of the day, keep it simple stupid will allow you to not overcomplicated it (and) get overwhelmed. Once you get overwhelmed, it's a wash. I would just say as a life advice, event advice, live stream advice, just keep it simple stupid and keep it moving.
Brian Kelly:
Real quick, I got to interject on that. Just so people know that that comes from an acronym K.I.S.S. So we're not calling everybody stupid, for one.
Dylan Shinholser:
Well...
Brian Kelly:
That was great. I have a friend who is Sicilian in nature, and he did this from the stage. He talked about it, and he brought up the whole thing. We're talking about doing it without complicating it. He goes, "It's like K.I.S.S. Who knows what K.I.S.S means?" Someone raised their hands. They said, "keep it simple, stupid". He goes,"Oh, no, no. It's keep it simple Sicilian." He lighten the load of the stupid part. I thought that was cool. Sorry, Julie, what is your parting tip?
Julie Riley:
You know, you're going to have to get started at some point. In order to do that, you're going to have to get over your fear. Go practice. Get those done, but also go watch and find other people that you resonate with their live shows. Start to take pieces from each of those. Now, obviously, you cannot go copy their live show and recreate it. You can pull little things from multiple different people's live shows that you like and that resonate with you. If you're comfortable and things are resonating with you, you're going to exude that comfort and that confidence out to the rest of the world.
Brian Kelly:
I love it. I love it. Alright. The man, the myth, the legend, Timothy J. McNeely. What is your final parting word of advice?
Timothy McNeely:
I'm going to close with a story. The purpose of this story is to illustrate the power of doing a show. July 20th, 1969, the first man walked on the moon. He left his footprints up there. On the moon, there's no wind. There's no rain. There's no weather, and those footprints today in twenty twenty-one look exactly like they did in nineteen sixty-nine. They're going to be exactly the same a million years from now. You too. You leave footprints on the hearts and the minds of everyone that you come in contact with. In streaming and having a platform, that's your opportunity to leave your footprints and to have an impact on people. Get clear about what your message is. What's the impact you want to have? If you do that, all of the other puzzle pieces are going to fall in place for you.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, baby. Okay, I've got to do it. I've got to do it. That was amazing.
Dylan Shinholser:
You have to get one of the little lower third animation gifts that are possible here on StreamYard. It's just a mic drop every time someone does one.
Brian Kelly:
Not nearly as much fun though, bro.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That's true. Fair. Very fair. I'll give it to you. I've got to get me one of those little squishy microphones.
Brian Kelly:
A little sound effect like I just broke my desk or something. That would be good. Alright, Christian, you've had a long time to think about it now. No pressure, but this better be a good one. I'm kidding. What do you have?
Christian Karasiewicz:
Let's see. The best piece of advice, I think, would be don't have gas or gear acquisition syndrome. You're going to watch people doing their live streams, and they're going to go and be like, "hey, I got to get that mic because this person upgraded." Oh, they got a new webcam. Remember? If you develop a plan, the whole thing is work the plan.. work the system. It's great (that) somebody else got some equipment, but it doesn't mean that you need to go out and get that yourself as well. Remember, work your plan. When you get to the certain points, maybe set that as a milestone. If I get to a certain number of viewers, for example, or a certain number of subscribers on a channel, then I might need to upgrade something. Don't be buying stuff just because someone else is doing so.
Brian Kelly:
Sales drive service. I love it. You guys are amazing. Thank you so much for coming on. Everyone who watched live. Thank you for coming on. Those of you that watched on the recording. Thank you for spending your valuable time with us, and those listening on the podcast. The same goes for you. Definitely. I hope you took a lot of notes because these are experts in the field. They are giving their value, their heart, their experience. They only charged me two-hundred thousand dollars for it. It's really been a deal. I'm kidding. They charged me nothing. You got incredible value from these amazing, amazing professionals. I can't thank you all enough. I appreciate you Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. Thank you from the bottom of my heart with all seriousness. I know we had some fun tonight. Thank you, Christian, so much for letting me pick on you so hard. You've been a great guy. I look forward to getting to know each and every one of you at a deeper level. If you're open to that after tonight. Appreciate you all. On behalf of these amazing people, that's it. We're out. My name is Brian Kelly. I'm the host of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Until next time we will see you. Be blessed. So long for now.
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