Special Guest Expert - Mike Lofton

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Narrator:
So here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward only to fall two steps back, who are dedicated, determined, and driven, how do we finally break through and win? That is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show.

Brian Kelly:
Hello, everyone. And welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Whew, baby, we have a phenomenal, phenomenal guest waiting in the wings. Going to bring him on very soon. His name is Mike... Mike Lofton, and he is an amazing, amazing young man who has figured it out. What has he figured out? He's figured out the keys to success in business, and the reason I bring on amazing people like Mike is so that you can learn from people like Mike and then simply model. That means copy. Do what they did. There's no reason to recreate the wheel and do it all on your own, because that just takes a lot longer. Doesn't it? Once you get to that point, it's going to be a lot easier road for you. It's something that took me many, many years to figure out and get through this thick skull. That it's okay. It's okay to ask for help. It's okay to get tutelage. It's not only okay, it should be your responsibility so you can get there quicker and serve more people faster. Yes, The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. It is a show that I had put together for you, for entrepreneurs, and it's a show for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs. And it's successful entrepreneurs. Only successful entrepreneurs come on this show. And the reason is what I just specified earlier. So you can learn from them. Not only the things that are great that you should do in business, but also the lessons they've learned that you can avoid and not make those same mistakes. Equally as important. And so this show is about what I call the three pillars of success that I learned over the course of over a decade of studying only successful people. And what I found were these three patterns that kept bubbling up to the top over and over and over. And I realized, my gosh, these are the keys, the patterns, the pillars to success. Can you guess what those three might be. They're on either side of me right now if you're watching on video? Yes. It's mind, body and business. So mind being mindset. And that is every successful person that I studied had a very powerful, very positive and most importantly, very flexible mindset. They weren't born with these things. They all worked on them individually and developed them over time. Body, to a person, they take care of themselves. Nutritionally, what they're taking into their body. Physically, they're exercising on a regular basis. Doesn't mean that they look like an Adonis or an atlas or an Arnold Schwarzenegger who was in his prime working out. No, that's not what I'm saying with the working outside of things. It is that they continually, on a regular basis, move and exercise to keep their body healthy. And like I always say, the mind and body are a team. More importantly, the mind and body are your team. And if any one member of that team, of any team talk about sports or anybody, if any player or a member of a team is not operating at a peak level of performance, then guess what happens to the team as a whole? It's not working at a top level of performance either, is it? And then there's a business. Business is so multifaceted. You know, these guys and gals that became very successful that I studied, they had mastered various skill sets like sales, marketing, team building, systematizing, leadership. I could literally go on for a long time about all the different various skill sets that it takes to not only build a successful company, but to maintain it and grow it. And the good news is, look, here's the thing. One person, in my humble opinion, doesn't have time on this planet to master, truly master, every skill set necessary that I just... Just the ones I talked about already and there are many more. But if you master just one, just one skill set, and you can master more than one. But if you master and focus on one skill set, and I already mentioned it... Was actually one of them that I mentioned, then you're good. You can then have a thriving, successful business. And that one skill set is leadership. And I'm so excited because the gentleman you're about to listen to and learn from Michael Loften, that's his specialty. He is a phenomenal leader. He's figured it out. And now we're going to bring him on very, very soon to show you exactly how to do the same. Real quick, another phenomenal trait and attribute of very successful people is that... To a person, all those that I studied, are very avid and voracious readers, and they're not just the readers of any books. They're the readers of books that have impact on them and in their lives. So with that, I'd like to segway really briefly into a segment I affectionately call, "Bookmarks".

Narrator:
Bookmarks! Born to read. Bookmarks! Ready, steady, read. Bookmarks brought to you by ReachYourPeakLibrary.com.

Brian Kelly:
Yes, there you see, ReachYourPeakLibrary.com. One quick note, and that is to take note, and that means take out a pen and pad of paper or whatever it is you like to take notes on. It could be on your computer if you have room while you're watching this. If you're on your phone, get out a pad of paper instead of actually clicking away and going to another resource, because I'll guarantee you that Mike has several resources as well. Maybe it's a book. Maybe it's a website like ReachYourPeakLibrary.com. My advice to you is write it down, and then visit it later after the show. Why do I say that? Because I've learned from many years of speaking from stage that the magic happens in the room. And if people like during a physical seminar, and I'm speaking from stage and I'm about to give that one golden nugget. I know it's a golden nugget because I had presented it many times before. And right at that moment I see someone in the crowd get up to walk out of the room. Maybe to go to the restroom or whatever. And I just think I feel bad for them. They're going to miss out on what could have changed their life forever. And Mike Lofton is going to be saying many things. And you never know. It could be that one thing that could change your life forever. And you took your gaze away to go click and look at another resource that you heard about on the show. So just do yourself a favor. This isn't for me. This is for you. And take notes and then go back and visit those resources later. Alright. That is my soapbox moment. Reach Your Peak Library. I had this put together, this website, and I kid you not... With you in mind. Here's the thing. I did not read voraciously my whole life. In fact, I'm fifty-six years old now, and I didn't start reading like really reading until I was about forty-seven. So less than a decade. And then I realized my gosh, this is powerful. This can be life changing. Just reading books. I never thought it could be that powerful. So I began reading and consuming voraciously. And what I decided to do is start cataloging all of the books that had a profound impact on me either in business life or personal life or even both. And so I put them here on this website. Every button you see in here goes to Amazon and you can just go grab a book, and the whole purpose of this is for you to find that one next book or that one first book. You don't need to go through this entire list. Find the first one that jumps off the page and resonates with you, and go read it. There's no need to waste time. We want to we want to be efficient with our time. We want to be action takers. Get in that habit, taking massive, immediate, and consistent action. So find a book that jumps off the page. Go click on the button. Buy it on Amazon in whatever form you you prefer. Could be physical book, hard copy, soft paperback. It could be Kindle. Could be audible. My favorite is audible. I like to listen, but just do it. Do it quickly, and if you don't see a book on here, find another book from another person that you know is successful. And ask them what's their favorite read. That's that. That has ReachYourPeakLibrary.com. My gift to you, literally. That is there not to make money. It's there to give you a resource that you can go to. Speaking of resources you can go to. I think you know where I'm going with this. It's time to bring on the man of the hour. Let's do it right now.

Narrator:
It's time for the guest expert spotlight. Savvy, skillful, professional, adept, trained, big league, qualified.

Brian Kelly:
And there he is, ladies and gentlemen. It is the one, the only Mike Loften. Yes!

Mike Lofton:
Hey!

Brian Kelly:
Welcome to the show, my friend. We go way back. I mean, we've been talking for what? Almost 40 minutes? You know, we go...

Mike Lofton:
Forty-two is what I came up with.

Brian Kelly:
And that's what I love about what I get to do, Mike, is because the people like you that come on the show, it's an instant friendship. I mean, instant. It's like I knew you already. Your father who's been on this show. Same thing. Lloyd, what an amazing guy. I know you're his son and you love him, but I love him too.

Mike Lofton:
I'm sure he's watching. So don't don't get his head any bigger than it already is.

Brian Kelly:
Well. Since I'm not his biological son, I can do that. And then, you know... If I did that a lot, it'd probably make you suffer, which wouldn't be a good thing. That's okay.

Mike Lofton:
No.

Brian Kelly:
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Mike Lofton:
That's alright, man. You got the message across.

Brian Kelly:
We're not even close to being done. So everyone watching this is like a five hour show, just so you know. I'm kidding. There we go. Oh, this is a vocal ease. It takes a second. It's a throat saver,and I'll prove in a minute. It'll come back. And that is by a mentor of mine, Mel Cutler and his wife Kate. Own the company that provides vocal ease. It's on Amazon. I'm not getting paid anything for this. It's just something that... If I find something that works, I promote it always, always. Not looking for something in return. So, Mike, on to you. We got your bio down. You have a great story. I can't wait to get to that, that you were telling me right before the show. And we know kind of your accolades from a high level. And the thing is, is I like to go a little bit deeper and find out what really got you where you are: successful. And in that, I like to go into the first part of the three pillars of success, and that's mind and mindset. And so for you, getting up every day, knowing there are arduous task ahead. There are issues to resolve. There are problems to be solved every single day because entrepreneurs, people think it's super simple. Once you get it rolling, it actually gets more and more complex as you get more successful. So for you, Mike, what is going on in that big, beautiful brain of yours when you get up in the morning? What is motivating you to serve more people and to crush it even farther each and every day?

Mike Lofton:
So for me, motivation comes down to fear. Over the course of my career, you know, if you go back to the beginning of me in business. I dropped out of high school when I was 17 and got my GED, but we joked earlier that my dad's probably watching. And the whole premise that I was horrible at math in high school, like horrible. Dude, if you dropped me in a pre-algebra class right now at high school or college. Pick. Put me on a pre algebra class, I will have a nuclear meltdown. But you put me in a business setting, put a PNL in front of me, asked me to analyze return on investments or increasing profitability. Payroll percentage... Doesn't matter. I feed off of that stuff. So in high school, it just wasn't for me. And so I dropped out of high school. I ended up working at Wal-Mart at 19 as a loss prevention associate down in Lake Havasu, Arizona. Running around, catching shoplifters, having the time of my life, making what I thought was good money at the time. And ultimately ended up becoming a store manager at Wal-Mart and fear for me, through my time at Wal-Mart and later on at Lowe's and then a sales manager at a payroll company, it all came down to fear, but I didn't use it in the right way. I let that fear stop me from doing what I thought I wanted to do differently. As opposed to that fear to push me from behind. And I think over the past couple of years, that's been my motivating factor. I do not want to turn around and be 70 years old and say, man, I wish I had done this. I wish I wasn't afraid to do something different. And that's not a slam against people that stay in the same company for thirty, thirty-five years. That just wasn't for me. So my motivation is fear. What's going to happen if I don't do this? If I don't come on your podcast, am I going to be upset with myself and simply out of fear, or do I use that fear to understand that this is a step in the process of ultimately getting where I want to be? Which is a successful business consultant on a much larger scale than we already are.

Brian Kelly:
And I guarantee you, if you said... If you didn't come on this podcast, you would have been upset with yourself.

Mike Lofton:
Absolutely.

Brian Kelly:
Shameless self plug there.

Mike Lofton:
I could have come up with a hundred different reasons not to do it. What are people going to think? What if only a few people watch? People are going to think that I suck. That's fear, right? As opposed to, man, this is something that can never be taken away from me. It's an experience that I'm going to be able to use moving forward. But more importantly, me talking about fear, I guarantee there's somebody right now listening, saying I am afraid to do something different. And this guy's talking exactly the same mindset that they're having right now.

Brian Kelly:
Fear has this way of telling you that... Your subconscious is basically telling you that, that is what you need to do. It's not what you need to run from it's what you need to run to. And that's happened so many times and going through and becoming NLP certified neurolinguistic programing certified. That's a huge component of it where we do discuss and address fear head on and we're not talking that fight or flight kind of fear. We're talking about fear of failure, fear of of judgment and all those things that go on in everyone's head that's a human being on this earth. But another way to look at fear is... Another word is resistance, because that's what it puts into you and your mind and hesitation. And so something you would normally jump at, you're now resisting or hesitating because you're worried about the unknown. What's going to happen if I fail? The only thing that's going to happen if you fail, you're going to get one step closer to success. That's what needs to be rewired in one's brain, is to fail and fail often and be good with it. And you know what? You're going to get ridicule from friends and family members even that just don't understand what it takes to become successful. And the only reason there are so few people that have really crushed it is because there are only so few who are willing to go through that, in my humble opinion.

Mike Lofton:
Well, here's the thing, though. There's, what, three-hundred million people on the planet? So Susie Q 729 on Instagram doesn't like your video, so what? It's just, it's not relevant. And that's easy to say. It's a lot harder to do it, and put yourself out there and start doing what you really want to do. If you can figure out how that fear pushes you to get where you want, as opposed to allowing other people's fears of their own failures to be projected onto you, you can't start that business. No one would want to do that. I mean, what what happened with Jeff Bezos, right? I mean, when he started Amazon, he was the laughing stock. Who wants to buy books online? Okay, well, how'd that work out Border Books? You know, if you had listened to that negative feedback and use that, the fear to say, well, maybe they're right, where would he be today?

Brian Kelly:
And that's that's always a sign to look for when someone... If you have a new idea and you're going after it and you're getting a lot of people saying that'll never work. Well, then you're probably down the right going down the right path. What is her name? I forgot her name, the founder of Spanx. She literally just said this. Sarah? Gosh, I'm sorry. I forget her name. She's married to Jesse Esler, who is an author of two books are online on my site, ReachYourPeakLibrary.com. Amazing. She's been on Shark Tank as well. She literally just talked about this very topic and said that had she listened to everyone who told her not to go down this path and build or create these seamless pantyhose that every woman on the planet now wears, because of her, then she wouldn't be where she is today. Actually the good advice is to listen to those people, and then just do the exact opposite of what they're telling you.

Mike Lofton:
Do the exact opposite. Right. And and people do that I think. They project that negativity out of their own insecurity or their own lack of self-esteem. So when you say an idea that you're thinking of doing, you're creating Spanx. We'll use that as the example. For them, within five, ten seconds, their own feelings go through their brain of starting an own business. What would that look like? And immediately the response is well, that's a dumb idea. Why would you want to do that? And you've got to figure out how to navigate through that. If you believe in it... In yourself, you've got to shut all that stuff out. And a lot of being an entrepreneur is shutting out people that aren't supporting you and bringing in people that are saying, yeah, this sounds like a crazy idea, but you may be on to something. Those are the people that you want in your circle.

Brian Kelly:
Exactly. You want people like this guy next to me, Mike Loften in your circle. I'm not kidding. You want those kind of people in your daily life. Not saying he's available for you to talk to him every day, but you want people like him. So if you find somebody who's willing to mentor you and coach you and help you, as long as you're giving value in return, then by all means get in those kind of circles. Thank you, Dayna, for... Sara Blakely was a name I was looking for. I don't know. Do you know this Dayna Moody person?

Mike Lofton:
I believe so, yeah.

Brian Kelly:
I love it. Thank you, Dayna. I appreciate you straightening me out. I think, I don't even know if I said Sara. It doesn't matter if I'm right or not. The bottom line is the result, and Dayna had it. And that's awesome. That's your business partner? Yes?

Mike Lofton:
Yeah, yeah. That's my business partner.

Brian Kelly:
Dayna came up with the result. Mike is all about results. Who wants results out there listening and watching? Everyone should be raising their hand physically or mentally, and that's all what it's all about. The journey is the journey, but the journey is there for the result. And yeah, you can enjoy the journey. It's fine. Enjoy it, because you know what the result is going to be at the end. That's why it's so dang-on fun. Going through all those stumbling blocks. All the resistance and the hesitation, the speed bumps, everything that goes through your mind that you learn over time to just quickly shuck away. Like you were saying, go the opposite way. It's also true with your relationships with certain people. Is to be okay with firing some of your friends because they can drag you down to their level. They don't want you to succeed because then you won't be hanging out with them and you're going to be out there in their minds driving Lambos and in mansions and they're going to be in their little to two room apartment or wherever they're at. Right? They don't wanna be left dangling.

Mike Lofton:
With that. I mean, last year, my my wife and I had some friends that that we hung out with pretty regular. The dad was my son's baseball coach. We hung out with them, barbecues. They live in the neighborhood. And last year when I was working on a consulting thing, an issue came up. It was a Sunday. We were supposed to be barbecuing at my house. And I'm in the backyard on the phone. I've got my airpod in, and I'm dealing with a pretty serious issue that could have turned into a legal problem. And I'm coaching the CEO through that. And a couple of days later, I invited those same people and another neighbor back over to the house. And he had made some snide comment in the text message about, well, why would you invite us back over? You're just going to be on your phone the whole time. I immediately cut ties with them. I knew he was trying to be funny, but at the same time, my other friend that was over said, hey, dude, we're going to go home. Appreciate the invite. I know you got a lot going on. And then he called me an hour later to check on me to see how things went. Right? Completely blew up the whole barbecue, but my friend checked on me and said, dude, I understand things happen. You got to do what you got to do to be successful. Somebody else that was more of an acquaintance than a friend wanted to talk trash. Well, I don't need that in my life. I need people around me that are going to understand, hey, this dude pushing to do something, I need to support it. Even if that negatively impacts a barbecue. Right? It's just... You got to have those people in your life that are going to be there no matter what, even when it's uncomfortable.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. The people that support you and lift you up, it doesn't have... I mean, a barbecue. It doesn't matter what the situation is. It's, what is their mindset like? They're there to tear you down to make them look better. That's the bottom line. Katherine Gruenberg said me because we're asking was asking who wants results? That's when she raised her hand. And sounds like she knows you as well, because I'll bring that up in a second. And there's this a guy you may know. First name, Lloyd. He said this guy sounds like he was raised right.

Mike Lofton:
This is the equivalent of your dad standing at a school function and yelling louder than everybody else.

Brian Kelly:
Love it. You're so blessed to have such a supportive, loving dad. And I know you know that we were talking about it in all seriousness before the show. So thanks, Llyod, for coming on. I appreciate you so much. You've been such a great support. And then here's what Katherine also said. One month coaching with Mike and the Lofton Approved team, that's the name of his company, Loften Approved, has already added so much value to my business, exceeded my business goals this month. There's the results, ladies and gentlemen. And she was not paid, at least not by me, to come on the show and say that. I know it wasn't by Mike either. Then we have. Oh, my goodness. Yes. So, and Dayna business partner. Thank you so much, Kathy. We love to hear that from people we help. Yeah. And tell me about that, Mike. I mean, a lot of people are driven by different things. One is money, one is serving others. But when you hear feedback of people that you are able to have impact on in their lives, is that not like the greatest feeling on the planet, no matter how much money resulted from it in your pocket?

Mike Lofton:
It's awesome, man. For me, it's always been that way. If I'm mentoring somebody because they want to get promoted or they're trying to make a career transition. For me, it's personal. You know, we talked about my past earlier when we first got on. But, man, I spent years miserable making a ton of money. I mean, when you're when you're twenty-five making well over six figures, that's great, but then when you start to move through life and you're like, well, cool, I made one-hundred and fifty thousand this year. I made two-hundred grand this year. But I hate going to work. It's a miserable feeling. So when you see stuff like what Kathy just put, who's working on her own social media management project and supporting people online through building websites and that type of stuff. SEO, all that fun stuff that goes on that I don't understand, it's all German to me. To see a comment like that, is somebody going from one situation to another on their journey. And every step that you can be a part of that to me is just ecstatic because I know what it feels like. I know what it feels like to go, hey, I want to get to this point and what a crappy road it can be sometimes to get there.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. You know how wonderful it feels. And you want that same feeling for others.

Mike Lofton:
Absolutely.

Brian Kelly:
And that's what I love about what I get to do on this show, because people like you, Mike, and every one of my guests experts are the same way in that manner. Where it's about serving others, it's about helping others. And it's rarely, the topic is rarely ever centered around the concept of just money. And one thing I want to make clear to everyone that money is necessary. It is important, but if your primary focus is on money and making money. It's just history has shown that your business, whatever you happen to be in, is going to be short lived. It's not going to last. Your passion won't be there. There'll be so many reasons. If you are going service and heart centered first, it will last much, much longer and become much more successful. Will it take time? Yes. Will it be worth it? Oh, yeah.

Mike Lofton:
You're 100 percent right, Brian. I just got done with a consulting thing that honestly really upset me that ended and made me sad to a certain extent that it ended. Because it was your example that you just gave. The owner was so focused on making money. Everything else in between was was just a dog and pony show. The employees weren't being taken care of. The clients weren't being taken care of. And everything was this rat-race to increase profit. And that's great. It's business, trust me, at Wal-Mart and Lowe's, if I wasn't increasing profit, I would have been a store manager. But you have to do it in a sustainable way. And everything that I've seen working with business owners, if all they're focused on is I want to make another hundred grand this year, they're probably going to make fifty thousand less than they're making right now because they're not focused on the entire picture to get to that hundred grand. And that's disappointing when you see it. Especially when it's a good idea, or the business owner came up with this concept that you're just like, holy crap, this can be huge. And then there's their shortsightedness on money. It ruins it. And it's sad to watch it happen. It really is.

Brian Kelly:
That's the word. Sad. Definitely. Yeah. It's like for those that might be stuck. Look, Mike started at some point. I started at some point. When we first start out, we are absolutely money centric because we got to make money to pay the bills. Right? And that's okay. Everyone goes through that phase, and once you start getting to that, okay, I've got a stable thing going here and I'm getting some profit and income and I'm getting a little more comfortable financially. Now, you're going to naturally flow, most people do, into serving and being there for others because that's really where the sweet spot is. And if you can start out with that mindset even better, it's just the way to go. And I think in my humble belief, as we were all put on this planet to help each other, not to nash at each other and smack each other. You know, talk them down at barbecues, it's there to lift people and help people and be there for people. I don't know. I just think the world you know...

Mike Lofton:
There's some negativity right now, dude. There's enough of that nonsense. As entrepreneurs and business owners, your goal should be trying to help the next person. Because even if you want to be selfish about it, you helping them, you'll learn something.

Brian Kelly:
That's so true, you're going to learn and you're going to grow. You're going to learn stuff about yourself that will help you to go even higher and help more. That's what this is all about. I hope Mike Lofton makes as much boatloads of money as he possibly can. He and Dayna together as a company, I hope they just absolutely crush it. Why would I hope that? You know, it's like all those rich people? Well, I look at people like Mike and Dayna and say, they are those people that will take that wealth and convert it into helping more people.

Mike Lofton:
Absolutely.

Brian Kelly:
Spread it farther and wider. I want their financial growth to be exponential. They'll build bigger teams. They'll scale. They will impact more lives in a positive manner. So bless Mike and Dayna and their company, and let's just rain the cash down on so that they can go out and make the change in the world that they came here to do.

Mike Lofton:
Right. That's that's our goal, man. And I think entrepreneurs that are listening, it's easy to get caught up in what other companies or your competitors are not doing well. Right? That's easy to do. The problem with that is, again, a shortsighted. When I was running big-box stores, I always went to the other stores within the same company. Even if I knew I was merchandised better than them, I had better customer experience. Whatever the metric or KPI was. Even though I knew I was better than that store, I still went there because I wanted to find things that they were better at so I could bring that back to my store. So the more that I'm bringing back that someone else is doing well, don't be shortsighted in thinking oh, well, you know, this pool company, we're kicking their butts all over the place. For now you are. That that may be a reality, but what are they doing that is better than you? And then how do you adapt to that? Because that's like a crucial foundation of being a business owner and entrepreneur is adaptability and understanding that the landscape is going to change. Two years ago, who would have thought this covid stuff? And how many small businesses closed because of it. Restaurants closed and I use the analogy of think back to the big days with Circuit City who shopping it at Circuit City lately. Nobody, because it doesn't exist. Because they chose not to adapt. So now with social media and the Internet and the constant changing environments that businesses are operating in, you have to be willing to adapt. Sometimes that means looking at your competitor and going and they're doing better than me in this category or in this area. I need to figure out how to get a leg up on that so you can stay competitive and stay in front of the customers that you want to retain.

Brian Kelly:
I agree, Katherine. So valuable and on point. There's no doubt. Excuse me, I don't know what's going on with my throat today. This is weird. It's like, you know, when you talk about looking at your competitors or those that, you know, you're already doing better than. It's like taking that lump of coal and getting the diamond out of it. Right? It's finding that diamond within what looks like just a lump of nasty, you know, stain ridden coal that's going to get you all dirty. But it just reminds me of a story, a very quick one, that I went to witness a speaker. He had a two day event. The way that this person treated the crowd was deplorable. It was unbelievable, Mike. I was blown away that this was happening. But the thing is, he did some things during those two days, I thought that was effective and it was not in an icky way. I can use that, and when you can get past the superficial, the surface of all the things you don't like about something and you can start pulling out the gems, the diamonds, and then utilize that going forward... I literally. So this is back, I was telling you before the show, Mike. I was the lead trainer for my mentor, and I trained one half of his event. One day of his two day events. And I took this idea back and I said, hey, man, I just learned this really cool approach, this technique. What do you think about my implementing in the intro when we frame the whole event? And he said, yeah, let's do it. I explained the whole thing to him and I've used it ever since and it was a positive thing. So I totally resonate with you on that to say, yeah, go to your competitors, go to those who you already know you're better than. Even if they're a team member, they're your own store branch. But find out there's always... Isn't there always, always a way to improve where we are tank? Is that right?

Mike Lofton:
Absolutely. If you don't think there is your business is already dead. It may be next year, maybe five years from now. I can't tell you the timeline, but if you don't think that you can do better or you don't think that you can learn from your customer or from your competitors. You're dead. I mean, there's just no other way to put it. And that's the adaptability and the self-awareness of being a small business owners. You have to be self-aware enough to know, hey, I'm not good at this or I'm not proficient in this part of running a business. You need to be able to admit that and then get people on your team that are.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, you just said it! I was waiting for that. He didn't say, ladies and gentlemen, Mike didn't say go out and learn how to do it. What did he say instead? Go out and find somebody who can do it. That is gold, ladies and gentlemen. I hope you weren't clicking away on something right there. That is the goal... Is To delegate to those who already have the skills that you have not yet developed. And that will get you so much further. Oh, thank you for saying that.

Mike Lofton:
I give you the example, and I mentioned it earlier. I'm horrible at academic math. Again, if you put me in a pre algebra class right now, Brian, you're going to have to send an ambulance. It's not going to be good. Okay? So what am I going to do? Am I going to go get online and take all these courses to go from being crap at pre algebra to okay, I got a C in pre algebra. That same exact time that I spent and effort that I exerted doing that. If I went and spent that on something that I'm already passionate about or good at, what's the ROI going to be on that? I mean, it's a no brainer. So understanding where your weaknesses are and then going and finding people that are going to do that for you. It's interesting to me sometimes where again, as entrepreneurs, I get it, man. We created this. We created this company. We created this idea. That's only sustainable to a certain point. There's only enough bandwidth in that. If you started a company five years ago, things are drastically different in every sense of business than it was five years ago. So I've I've talked to entrepreneurs and business owners that they're like I spend eight hours a month processing payroll because I know how to do it. Cool. Let's think about that. That eight hours that you're sitting down processing payroll and time sheets or whatever it may look like, that's eight hours you could have spent on marketing, engaging with your your employees, engaging with your customers, doing market... Like that is eight hours of your time. And what I tell entrepreneurs is what is your average hourly rate as an entrepreneur or a business owner? And it's the truth if you're making X amount of money a year, you have an average hourly rate, and if you're spending that money doing things that other people can do for you, so you have the time and the bandwidth to grow the company, man, that's that's worth its weight in gold.

Brian Kelly:
I literally just went through this today, Mike, and it was actually a combination of yesterday and today where I'm in a rebuild process... A migraine. And it's a very complex thing to discuss. But suffice it to say, there's a lot of moving pieces to it. And I'm primarily doing all of it just because I have the knowledge to do it. And I finally, after digging so deep, found a piece to carve out and hand off to a team member. Literally just created a training video right before this show. I am not kidding right before this show...

Mike Lofton:
How did it feel?

Brian Kelly:
Oh, liberated. I went down and spoke to my wife, I had like 15 minutes before I was going to come on with you right before the show. I just told her all about us. Oh, my God. I feel so good that I found... I was looking hard, Mike. I wanted something to offload because it's so complex. It would have taken me far longer to train it than I could have finished it five times. You know what I'm saying? So there are times when it is that way, but always be looking for the solution to outsource the stuff you shouldn't be working on. I should not be doing that one piece. And thank goodness I'm not going to be. And I can concentrate on a much, much harder stuff that I'm really good at to finish it and finish it quickly so I can move this this beast of a wonderful machine I've got going forward. So I'm right there right now. It's great advice.

Mike Lofton:
Good. Yes. And it's liberating. Like you said. Once you're like, oh, my gosh, I don't have to do that anymore. Yeah. Now go spend that time and energy developing your team or helping your sales staff or whatever it is that's actually going to grow your business.

Brian Kelly:
Well, when it comes to a team, how important is it to you, Mike, to have an actual team that fits? You know, good team members? I mean, what do you look for in people when you're looking for someone else to add to your team to help offset those those kinds of tasks that you should not be doing?

Mike Lofton:
I think first thing is personality. A lot of people don't realize that you apply for a job and you don't get it, and you you think you checked all the boxes. But a lot of the times it's the personality piece of it. You may have all the experience and check all the boxes, but that hiring manager or that business owner is like and they're not going to get along with the team. Right? Like, that's the reality of it. It doesn't mean that you suck. It doesn't mean anything negative. It's the personality. So that's number one for me is I'm pretty open. I'm transparent. I'm blunt. I need people on my team that can understand that that's not directed towards them. That's my operation. And then too, the skill set. I don't want people that have the same skill set as me. I want people to have a completely different skill set, because if I surround myself and I have a team of Mike Lofton's. I'm going to be stagnant pretty quick. I'm going to be happy because everything's happening exactly the way I want it and they're going to be doing exactly the way that Mike Lofton would do it or Lofton Approved. But the flip side of that is that's teachable. Like, you can teach people your expectations and I tell people you teach people how to treat you. Right? I mean, that's that's a reality, so I can teach people how to operate within the organization, but I need them to have skill sets that maybe is lacking currently as opposed to just another person that fits in with the team. So those are the two. It's the personality, then it's the skill set.

Brian Kelly:
I love that. And if there were just a team of Mike Loftons who's going to do the pre algebra? I mean, come on.

Mike Lofton:
Listen, I need somebody to do that type of stuff. Absolutely.

Brian Kelly:
And it's so cool because I'm bringing on lots and lots of people. It's a long story, but I go through apprentice's that helped me and they're only with me for three months at a time. It's known the day they start... Their termination date is known. They're not going to make any money from it. They're going to learn experience from it. And I learned how to pick people by creating a system. Go figure. It's automated. Hint, wink, wink. But if they get through the system, which will take them additional time beyond what they had to do to apply to get into this whole matchmaking service, if you will to begin with. Then I know already that they're a fit. It is proving it, and there are other things that I look for as well as. Mindset. It's drive. I don't look for experience anymore. One of my first apprentices who came on who had very, very, very little experience in video editing, she wanted to learn it. She had this insatiable drive, Mike. And I've gone through about twenty-seven apprentices now over the course of two years, and by far she was the best video editor I have ever had. She had this much skill in it. So skill doesn't always equal great employee or team member. It's what you said personality. I think that encapsulated it real well because that includes mindset, that includes drive. That includes, you know... And look at their resume. My God, if they don't even capitalize the letters of their first and last name... I'm like your... I don't even I don't only turn the page.

Mike Lofton:
Right.

Brian Kelly:
There's no attention to detail at all. How are you going to do it when you come into my company?

Mike Lofton:
Right.

Brian Kelly:
You know... If their description, their open little blurb, is one sentence long instead of some that do maybe a paragraph. I'm like one sentence? You didn't feel you need to spend enough time to explain who you are? Then, no. You know, there's all these little intangibles that I love. I love that part of it. The sifting and sorting, because it's gotten it down to where it's really fast for me. Really fast.

Mike Lofton:
But see you went through the experience of figuring it out. You created a system that works for you.

Brian Kelly:
Right.

Mike Lofton:
And that's... Kudos to you, because that's not easy to do, especially in a fast paced environment where, you know, that's what creates turnover and attrition in your employees... Is you're so focused on the right now, you've come up with a great plan that is helping you think long term as opposed to just hiring somebody because you need a video editor. Then two weeks later, you find out they're no good. So you get rid of them, and it's just this revolving door. You've got a system in place which is great. I mean, that's every entrepreneur should be thinking of something like that.

Brian Kelly:
I'm really excited because I'm going to be able to build a massive team of my own, that I'm going to use the same exact technique. And this has been like a big trial period for me. I'm developing leadership skills beyond where I started by far by working with these. I'm learning what works with leading people versus what doesn't. I'm learning that positive reinforcement is so much more powerful than negative. I knew that from day one when I was a kid. When I was a teenager coaching kids in sports, that positive reinforcement, I could take lesser gifted athletic kids and beat the bejeebers out of very gifted athletic teams who had a coach that just would beat on them for every little mistake they perceived to be a mistake. So it's just learned so much from life that when you when you learn it and then you apply it, then you get to see the rewards from it.

Mike Lofton:
Want me to give you two things about leadership?

Brian Kelly:
Absolutely.

Mike Lofton:
Can't versus won't.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, yeah.

Mike Lofton:
I'm a firm believer in that. So once you have an employee in your organization, everything comes down to can't or won't. As a leader, if your employee can't do something, it's your fault. Can't boils down to they can't do it because they don't have the tools, the resources, the training, the experience. Think of all the can't's that that go on in a daily business. It sucks, but it's true. It's your fault. If your employee can't do their job, it's because of you that didn't that didn't provide it. Now won't is a whole different thing. And so how do you know if it's a won't? Well, if you've seen them do it at least one time, the way you expect them to do it, then you know they can. And then if they're not doing it, it's because they won't do it, which now you've got to dig a little bit deeper to find out what's the won't. But it took me a while to get my mind wrapped around that. Leadership that was on my team, they they'd be frustrated with an employer. Susie isn't doing this the way that she's supposed to. I would respond. Well, was it can't versus won't? Let me go find out. Right. And then they'd come back. Well, she can't do that because she didn't have the new sign into the system. Like, listen, you can't jump to just assuming that people suck because people don't come to work and want to do a bad job. I mean, human beings do not wake up in the morning and go... You know what? I feel like doing a crappy job today at work. I mean, it may evolve into that out of spite or whatever the issue be. But at the core of of humans, we want to please other people. And in the workforce, we want to please our boss. We want to feel good about ourself. We want to do a good job. So, man, step back and understand as a leader, if somebody isn't doing their job because a can't, that's you. You got to get involved, figure out what the solution is and get them to the point where they can. If it's a won't. That's a whole different conversation that that you've got to work yourself through.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. And I love that. I resonate wholeheartedly with that. And that's where the leader is, what I call taking cause for the situation. Taking responsibility. In the beginning when you first start doing this, it's kind of a a smack on your ego. In the beginning. And then when you do it several times, you realize the result is much greater if you do it, and the ego just doesn't care anymore. You just say this is the right thing to do. And so it's like exercising, you know? You're exercising different parts of your brain... Of your mindset. And the more you can be a cause about everything in life, period, not just with employees, but with your spouse, with your kids, with your loved ones, whoever. The more you can take responsibility, a position of responsibility, it doesn't mean it's your fault necessarily like outright. But could you somehow be responsible for that situation being there? And when you get that and you really understand that and integrate that into your being, then life gets so much easier in so many ways. I just know this from experience, and I can tell you do as well, Mike.

Mike Lofton:
It's true, man. I've remember when I was twenty-two (ish) at Wal-Mart as an assistant manager man, and I feel bad to this day. If I could remember the employee's name, I would love to get a hold of her. I'm serious, and we needed people to go outside and push shopping carts. And I was this firecracker assistant manager that was trying to show off. So I'm rounding up people to go outside and grab shopping carts. One-hundred and ten degrees outside here in Vegas. I walk up to this employee, and I said had any outside to push carts. And she said to me, I can't do it now. I didn't understand the concept of can't versus won't back then. She said, I can't. And I didn't even listen to her. I laid into her. That you won't argue with me. I'm the manager, dah duh dah duh dah. That she ran off crying. I said, well, I got to go pushcarts. The next day, the store manager called me in the office and he said, What the hell happened yesterday? And I said, What are you talking about? So was there an issue with carts? I said, no. I went out. I got people to go outside and he said her name. To this day, I feel horrible about it. He said, did you know she was pregnant?

Brian Kelly:
Ugh. Yeah.

Mike Lofton:
I was like, oh, my God. Like I was so caught up on my role that I didn't listen to her can't and her can't was I can't pushcarts because I'm in a high risk pregnancy. It's one-hundred and fifteen degrees outside. If I had just said, well, hey, what's going on? It would have been a totally different outcome. It took me months to work through that problem through the store because guess what? Word traveled around to 600 people. Mike's an a-hole. He made so-and-so go outside and push shopping carts. So it's the journey you go through. But it doesn't make it any easier when you think back to things that, man, you just totally screwed up.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, wouldn't it be nice if we could go back and do go-backs and take-backs and, you know, reach out to people... We all have that. We all have regrets. I think we're all human and we jump to conclusions, you know, and it can depend on so many factors. And we are our own worst critic and the hardest on ourselves. But, you know, the fact that you have this reaction that just tells the essence of you, Mike, and I think you have everyone's permission to say let it go. And I'm sure she's fine now. And your intentions weren't that way. And we all know that. No, you just didn't know. And we've all done this, every one of us.

Mike Lofton:
Thirteen years ago, I learned a lot since then. But I think it's important as an entrepreneur and a business owner to think back to.. Man, what are situations that happen to you? What are situations that you inflicted on other people and learn from them and make sure that as you move forward, you're creating the environment that you want your people to feel safe in.

Brian Kelly:
And it's important to recognize that people, you know, life gets in the way sometimes. Life happens. And oftentimes when someone reacts to you personally and you take offense to it. It's never personal. It's because they have something going on in their life that's bothering them most often. There's a great book by Don Miguel Ruiz called The Four Agreements. And one of the agreements is don't take anything personal, because most nearly every time it's not personal. That's on both sides, bad or good. These are great. My gosh, I want to learn more about your business because I just looked at the clock and I can't believe it. I did say we're going to go five hours. Maybe I meant it, but we're getting close to the end already, which I cannot believe. What I wanna do is find more about your business and what your target market is and and what kind of people you help and serve. Did I lose you? There we go.

Mike Lofton:
There we go. Alright.

Brian Kelly:
Yes, what I want to do is find out more about your business, Mike, in the short minutes we have. I was checking the clock and I'm like, wow, we're almost at the end already. We haven't even discussed your business directly. And I really want people to know what you do, you and your partner, and so that they can have an avenue to reach out and say maybe you could be a fit for them. So if you wouldn't mind, I want to pull up your website and just give people an idea of what it is you guys do. Who's your target market. What kind of problems you guys solve for people. If that's okay with you?

Mike Lofton:
Yeah, absolutely. Let's do it. So our company is Loften Approved. It's a play on a phrase that kind of follow me around through my career where people didn't want to come to me with a completed project or completed idea unless it was Lofton Approved. So that's just kind of stuck. And our goal and mission is to help business owners be Lofton Approved. So whether it's a startup needing assistance with securing SBA loans, getting business licenses, going through tax planning, all that type of stuff. We can start there with startups all the way up to company strategy and full blown HR support. We love going in and doing group trainings and exercises in sales organizations and really like what you've got here on the screen with Britney at Patriot Exhibit Services... Man she was growing just at this massive rate last year and needed help with this organizational structure. So policies, procedures, employee handbooks.. That's kind of, my partner Dayna, that's kind of her side of it. And then my side is the business piece of coming in and analyzing a review on investments and increasing profitability and corporate structure. Those type of things. So really, from complete startup up to several hundred employees. We can absolutely come in and and assist small business owners with really any concern that they have going on. And what we're noticing right now and the thing that we're getting contacted about the most is restructuring. As an entrepreneur and a business owner, last year, you had to change your entire business model for the most part. Your employees were working remotely, your sales organization changed. How you receive leads changed. Well, now we're in 2021, and things are starting to open back up. Well, now what's going to have to happen? You have to do it all over again, but in a different dynamic because there's still going to be some residual from 2020 that's going to change the way that your company is structured. So that's really what Dayna and I do. And we love doing it, going in and helping small business owners get the results that they need today.

Brian Kelly:
Fantastic, and the best way to get a hold of you guys. What is that?

Mike Lofton:
Lofton Approved. Head to the website, go to LoftenApproved.com. You can schedule free 15 minute consultation to chat about whatever it is you want to chat about. That's the easiest way. Or you can email me direct Mike@LoftonApproved or [email protected].

Brian Kelly:
And Dayna is D-A-Y-N-A?

Mike Lofton:
That is correct.

Brian Kelly:
Make sure we get that. And I wanted to put it up... You said to contact you. Okay, I see it. So I just want to show people that are watching. So they go to the contact us link on our website. Is that true?

Mike Lofton:
That's correct.

Brian Kelly:
And just click on that. There it is. Schedule consultation. You heard it, 15 minutes free. Find out if you're a fit or if they can help you. There it is. Everything. Phone number, his email address, talk to Mike or Dayna. And the one thing you said before we came on that really rung with me, I like that, was that you said you rarely, if ever, have to outsource anything because you have access to every resource you need.

Mike Lofton:
Yeah, one of the benefits of working with us is everything is in-house and everything, meaning you can't make a business change if you've got more than two or three employees. You can't make a business change without affecting your employees. And what we're noticing that people are going through is they're working with a consultant, but it's a one facet or maybe it's two facet. Well, with us, if we're going to help you make a business change, you're also going to have the person that it's going to help with, HR. Tax planning, CPA, securing SBA loans. We have a CPA that we work with, social media management, website design. We have somebody that we work with. So really, it's not necessary for people to contact us and then have to go contact five other people. We're going to put you in contact with those people that we trust that work with our clients to make sure that that client's having a great experience with all facets of what they may need to transition through.

Brian Kelly:
You're kind of like the business version of a building contractor.

Mike Lofton:
Yeah, that is true. We call it... We kind of joke around internally. It's a business in a box. Right. We've got the box, and we want to get your business in it.

Brian Kelly:
And that's great that it can all funnel through the same entry point so that there's that continuity that's going on. The communication is improved. And I'm saying this because most usually go into all these disparate services that have nothing to do with each other and don't communicate together because they don't want to. They're not part of the same end game. And I love the way you guys have assembled. And so Mike has just solved any issue that anyone might have about not having all the skill sets necessary to get a business thriving. He's got access to all the skill sets you need including himself and his partner. There you go. What is that worth? Well, that's going to depend on that conversation between you and Mike and Dayna. And if you're a fit... I'll tell you right now, one thing I learned over time, Mike, was if something doesn't cost very much, you usually get about that much in value in return. If you don't put skin in the game, it's very likely you will not get much from the result. I have no idea none what you guys charge. I hope it's a large amount of money because the results you're getting from people we just had one on on the air live that I didn't talk to before and you didn't talk to before. And she's on here singing your praises. The results are there and you've got the lineage. My God, with Lloyd, you've got an incredible father who's helped along the way as well. So there's no doubt in my mind the results are there. So whatever Mike is charging and he'll have that talk with you guys and say, well, where are you now? And this is the ROI we can get you. I just... So Mike I just went through a thing where I went, this was a lofty thing, but the guarantee was I will get one million dollars in sales and it will cost me two-hundred and fifty thousand dollars for their services.

Brian Kelly:
What part of no brainer is there a no brainer about that?

Mike Lofton:
Right?

Brian Kelly:
I will trade two-hundred fifty K for a million every day from Sunday, all day, multiple times. Can I do this more than once? You know? So that's the kind of discussion. It not about how much it costs. It never is about how much it costs. It's about what is the result going to be at the end. That will... Mike won't give you this service unless it gives you the result that will far surpass any fees they've collected. And it may not be immediate. It's going to take time. It's going to take investment. Then good. When you invest, you're going to put some sweat equity on your end, because this is a two... It's not just Mike going to do everything for, it works that way. But you will be there every step of the way, and he's going to help you. And all you gotta do is follow his lead, his and Dayna's lead. And you know what? Results are there.

Mike Lofton:
Yeah. And I think more importantly, what is important is paying for the experience. So you don't have to go through the same roadblocks.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah.

Mike Lofton:
I've already been through him, whether it's in the corporate space helping start ups. I was the chief operating officer for a social media management company here in town that went from the owners garage to over two hundred employees. Man, I had to live some pretty uncomfortable things to go through that. So I love being able to help business owners not have to go through some of the same uncomfortable situations. I already did it. Let me help you navigate around that, because it's not fun sometimes.

Brian Kelly:
And like I was saying, the onset, it's better to delegate than it is to try to reinvent the wheel. And why go through that pain when you don't have to do? All it takes is some skin in the game. And and again, the results so far surpass whatever investment that you're going to put in initially. I have one question. I like to leave the show with, Mike. We've already gone over three minutes, which I'm glad we're not in any kind of network, or we'd be shut down already. This is the beauty of live on these venues, but out of respect for everyone watching, listening, out of respect for you, your dad who's still commenting. What I like to do is ask this one final question. I do this with every guest expert who's been on the show, and I found it to be very profound in the results. The answers that came back... And it's really cool because, you know, some people, it takes them a moment. And there's dead air time. That's okay.

Mike Lofton:
Okay.

Brian Kelly:
Some get it immediately. That's okay, too. The interesting thing is that it also can be a little bit personal, and it's been a profound experience for me to ask this question and witness the answers that come back and I can't wait for yours. But before we do that real quick, I promised everyone at the onset of this show that they could find a way to win that five night vacation stay at a five star resort. And I'm a man of my word, so I keep my promises. And so let's do that right now. Real quick. And so in the beginning, I said, take notes and don't take your gaze from the show. But now I think Mike would agree that will give you permission for just a moment to pull out that smartphone and bring up your text messaging app and just do the following. Where you would actually type in the name of the person you are going to text instead type in this phone number. And that is, and you want to write this down because I'm going to leave this quick and get back to Mike for the big question, So write this down. Three-one-four-six-six-five-one-seven-six-seven, and put that in where you would type in the name of the person you're going to text and then where you would actually type the message, you know, where the emojis go. No emojis necessary here. Instead type in two words separated by a hyphen or a dash if you prefer. And those two words are peak (P-E-A-K) dash vacation altogether. Peak-Vacation. Go ahead and do that right now and then be sure to check your phone quickly after you do that. You will get an automated response asking for one more piece of information, and that will be your email address, because our automated system will then alert the winner through email of the fact that they want and the next steps to take to get that five night vacation stay at a five star luxury resort. Compliments of The Big Insider Secrets. My buddy Jason Nast and his company. I'm so grateful to them for making this available. Alright. Back to the man of the hour.

Mike Lofton:
Yessir.

Brian Kelly:
Or hour plus now. Yes, so. Are you ready for this, Mike?

Mike Lofton:
I'm ready.

Brian Kelly:
Of course you're ready. Here's the cool thing about it when it comes to the answer. There's actually no such thing as a wrong answer. It just flat out doesn't exist. The cool thing is just the opposite is true. The only correct answer is yours, and that is truly the only thing that makes this personal. Isn't that cool? And again, it may take you some time. That's okay. Whatever it takes for you is perfect because it's your answer. It doesn't matter. It's going to be your show in a minute after I ask the question. So you do what you want with it. You have the power.

Mike Lofton:
Let's do it.

Brian Kelly:
As Arnold would say, the power. Alright. Here we go. Are you ready?

Mike Lofton:
I'm ready.

Brian Kelly:
Alright. Mike Lofton. How do you. Define. Success.

Mike Lofton:
Define success. Alright. I would define success by your ability to separate the micro and the macro. So what I mean by that is from a macro standpoint, you know, that this is your goal and this is where you want to get to. No matter what that looks like. If you already own a business, this is where you want to be. If you're thinking about starting a business, you know where you want to be. The micro is understanding that it's a process to get there. So for me, I know where I want to be and I know that I want Lofton Approved to be the top business transformation company in the country, but in order to get there we have to execute the micro things each day with small goals that will ultimately get us where we want to be. And as long as we're doing that and as long as I'm doing the things necessary, that's successful because it will get me to that macro goal.

Brian Kelly:
I love what I get to do so much because of responses like that. Here's the interesting thing, Mike. This is, I don't know, show one-forty-one... One-forty-two. One-hundred and forty one, one-hundred and forty two. Somewhere around there. And no two people yet have answered that the same exact way. That's awesome. It blows my mind. And so with your permission and I'll ask it again when I'm at that point, what I'd like to do is compile the answers of past guests and put them in the books.

Mike Lofton:
Sure.

Brian Kelly:
And so it'll be a compilation. And I've already got the dot com for anyone out there, but it's called How do you how do you define success? There's no website there yet. I just have the dot com and that'll be a book that it will be a collaborative of you and so many other amazing people before you. There may be several books. I don't know how big this is going to end up being with the transcribed word, but it's phenomenal. I appreciate you, and I mean that. I appreciate you for who you become. For Lloyd, for being a great dad and helping you along the way. Yeah. Catherine, boom the biz edit.

Mike Lofton:
The biz.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, that was a boom moment for sure. Alright. Well, I'm going to allow you to do one more thing if you're okay with it. And that is for anyone out there that let's say they're a budding entrepreneur, they're looking toward, you know what? This whole working for other people is not working for me. I really want to break out on my own. And if they're about to embark and they're at that moment and a grizzled veteran like you, Mike, who's been through the highs, the lows, many more lows than highs in the beginning. What would you say to them as a piece of advice that if you were that person back when you were young, would love to hear and follow and it would have taken a lot of the pain away from your your journey? What kind of advice would you give that new budding entrepreneur?

Mike Lofton:
I'd say get your house right and what I mean by get your house right is get your personal house right. If you are living in a three-hundred thousand dollar house, but you're okay living in a seventeen hundred dollars a month apartment, move into the apartment. If you've got friends around you that are worried about going out and partying and doing all the things that's going to take away your time to get where you want to be. That macro that I just talked about... You've got to get your house right and you've got to make sure that you've got people around you that are not going to allow you to get off track, because as you go through this, it's painful. It is excruciating, painful to go through the highs and lows. And if you're worried about flossing on Instagram. If you're worried about all these other things to impress people that don't even like themself, because that's that's a reality is a lot of people don't even like themselves. So why are you worried about impressing them? Get your house right. Put your head down for five years and you will not be disappointed with what the end result is.

Brian Kelly:
Boom. Get your house right and five years. I love both of those. It does take time. There is no there's no like drive through. There's no instant food. It's not going to happen. There's no fast food. There's no fast business. There's no fast success. Unless you win the lottery and then most people will just self sabotage and spend it all anyway. So thank you, Mike. I appreciate you for coming on. You've been phenomenal. My gosh, with the lineage you have, how could you not be? Appreciate you so much. And everyone who came on, the supporters that came on to speak good words that we know are true and integrity based. And appreciate all of you for coming on as well. And look, all you listening on podcast after the fact, appreciate you spend the time. This is time well spent. I know this from hosting the show for now, nearly three years, that each and every time I personally learn something new and empowering to take me to another level. That is why my business is booming presently because of people like Mike, because I am a product of the product when I say take notes and learn from them. Model them. I do that very thing. And so appreciate you once again, Mike, for giving such great value. Everyone reach out to him, find out if he's a fit for you and your business. Don't make the mistakes. There's no need to that both Mike and I have made in so many before. Go to somebody who's been through it. Who can get you through those trying times. Who has the resources available to do all of those things in those skill sets that you most likely do not have, because I don't know anyone human that does have all those skill sets mastered. And so what a great resource and what a great person. Mike, appreciate you beyond words.Thank you, my friend.

Mike Lofton:
Thank you, Brian. It was fun, man. I appreciate it.

Brian Kelly:
Alright. On behalf of this amazing guy named Mike Lofton. I'm your host, Brian Kelly of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. That's it for tonight. It's a wrap. Thank you all for coming on. Until next time, we will see you again. Until then, so long and be blessed. See you later, everybody.

Mike Lofton:
Thank you.

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Narrator :
So, here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us, who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back. Who are dedicated, determined, and driven. How do we finally break through and win? That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly, and this is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show.

Brian Kelly:
Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Super excited for tonight's show. We have not just one, not two, not three, but four, four amazing guest experts who are joining me tonight right here on this very stage.

Brian Kelly:
They are waiting in the wings at this moment. So let's get busy. Shall we? The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, that is a show about what I call the three pillars of success, and that came about as a result of my study of only successful people in the last decade or so. And these patterns kept bubbling to the top and those patterns being mine, which is mindset set. Each and every successful person, to a person, had a very powerful and flexible mindset. So I learned that and said," I need to implement that". Then body: body is about literally taking care of yourself. Through nutrition and through exercise, exercising on a regular basis, and again that was another pattern of very successful people and in business. These successful people had mastered the skill-sets that were necessary to create, maintain, and grow a thriving business. They're wide and varied. It's like marketing, sales, team-building, systematizing. It goes on and on and on, leadership. There's no one person, in my humble opinion, that could master every single one of these. All you have to do is master just one, and I actually mentioned one of those. It was in that list. I don't know if anyone caught that, but if you master just one of those skill sets then you're good to go. That skill set is leadership. When you've mastered the skill set of leadership, you can then delegate those skills off to people who have those skill sets. See where I'm going? Good. That's what successful people do; the ones that I studied, anyway, over the course of about 10 years. That's what this show's about. It's a show for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs. I got four guests waiting, and I'm not going to wait any longer. So, I think we should just bring them on. What do you think? Let's do it.

Narrator :
It's time for the guest expert spotlight, savvy, skillful, professional and deft, trained, big league, qualified.

Brian Kelly:
And there they all are. These amazing, beautiful guests on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. How are you all doing? Altogether, too. That was phenomenal, I love that. So real quick. All of you, I hope you don't mind for just a moment. I want to do some housekeeping? I wanted to mention to everyone watching here live. If you stay with us till the end, you can win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. All compliments of our friends at The big insider secrets dotcom. You see them flying by on the bottom of the screen right now. It's an amazing, amazing vacation stay. Stay until the end, and you'll learn how you can enter to win that wonderful prize. We also have this. If you're struggling with putting on a live show, and it's overwhelming and you want a lot of the processes done for you while still enabling you to put on a high-quality show. And connect with great people like the ones we have tonight, and to grow your business all at the same time, then head on over to carpet bomb marketing dotcom. Carpet bomb marketing, saturate the marketplace with your message. One of the key components that is contained in the carpet bomb marketing courses, and this is one that you'll learn how to absolutely master, is the very service we use to stream our live shows right here on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Over the course of the past, now it's over nine years, we have tried many of these, "TV studio solutions" for live streaming. I'll tell you right now, Stream Yard is the best of the best. It combines supreme ease of use along with unmatched functionality. So, go ahead. You can start streaming high-quality, professional live shows for free. Yes, I said it. For free, with Stream Yard right now. Visit this website, and do this after the show over. Take notes while the show is going. So write this down R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. Fantastic. Now let's get to the real fun, and the fun is these amazing people. Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. How are you all doing tonight? Thank you for being on this amazing show. Yes. So, what I'd like to do is open it up. Let the folks get to know you just a little bit now. Ok, guys. We're talking sixty seconds or less. All right. Just lay it low here, but we'll just go and order. I usually go ladies first, but let's just go around the circle. It's easier for me who's running the show. So. That's what's important. Right? So, let's start with Dylan Shinholser. Go ahead. Take it away. Give us a little brief background about you, what you do, and your business.

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. So like I said, my name is Dylan Shinhoser. I own a couple of different businesses. I'm owner of a company called, "Experience Events", which is event management. I'm also a director of business development at a virtual event, event ticketing, and virtual event platform called, "ViewStub". As well as a co-host of another show called, "Event Masters", where I just ramble all day, every day about how to produce better experiences. It's really all I know and love to do is events. That is my less than 60-second pitch about myself.

Brian Kelly:
That's a good one, too. I'll tell everybody I've spoken with you in person. We had a call some time ago, and this gentleman, Dylan, is made of integrity and great character. So, reach out to him if you need any assistance in any of the areas he talked about, or if you just want to say hi to a really great guy. Then get in contact with him, and at the end of the show, we'll go through that. Please. Somebody remind me if I forget how to contact each of you. Because that's very important to me. This is the reason I bring this show to the forefront. (It) is to bring people like you into the lives of those who may not know who you are yet, and even those that do, to experience even more of your brilliance, your experience, your knowledge, and your value. It's not about me. This is about you. Always, always. Every time. I have one guest, usually. I just feel like I'm in this big family right now. But let's keep moving. Julie Riley, amazing young woman. Take it away.

Julie Riley:
Yes. So, I am Julie Riley. I am the social media manager at StreamYard. The platform we're using right now. Prior to my time with StreamYard, I owned my own marketing agency. I've been in digital marketing since two thousand and seven. So the very, very early days of the start of it is when I jumped in(to) digital marketing, and I love just being able to help others succeed in their business.

Brian Kelly:
Fantastic, and I will also say that I have spoken with Julie in the past. Both through a typewritten chat form and verbally. I think it was Clubhouse first time, which was phenomenal. Yet another phenomenal person, incredible integrity, and character. And yes, you're going to notice there's a pattern about this with the remaining two. It's the same thing. Hopefully, we can get the last one to talk a little bit. That will be nice. I'm just having fun because we were having fun before the show started. The one smiling. The biggest down there with the green hood; not pointing anyone out or anything. Thank you, Julie, for coming on. Yes. These people, Julie and Christian specifically, I know Christians coming up here in second. They're non-stop. They don't stop working. It's evident because of the very software research we're using right now. It's of grand quality for a reason. It's because of people like Julian Christian who keep everything rolling smoothly on the back end. Dylan's there nodding his head emphatically because he gets it. It's a lot of work, and they're doing it masterfully and we appreciate you. All right. Enough of the favoritism here that felt like favoritism. Julie's our favorite. Timothy McNeely! My buddy, my friend from just a little north of where I reside. I believe. If I remember.

Timothy McNeely:
Central California, baby. Bakersfield. Yeah, my name is Tim McNeely. Today, so many dentists and driven entrepreneurs are just not sure if they're getting advice that really makes a difference for them. They may have a financial adviser who is giving them some advice on their investment portfolio, but they're not really sure that they're on the right track to really maximize their net worth outside of their business. That's what I help them do. Maximize your net worth so that you can keep taking care of the people you love, support the causes you care about, really make that difference in the world, and build an amazing life of significance. I love doing streaming because I get to talk to some of the best of the best out there and share the knowledge with the beautiful entrepreneurial community.

Brian Kelly:
I'll tell you something on a personal note as well. Literally, we talked earlier today, Tim and I, on a Zoom call. He just reached out to me and said, "let's catch up." I had him on the show some time ago as a single, solo guest, and he was phenomenal. We've just kind of maintained a relationship, a friendship ever since. He just wanted to reach out and say, "Hi" and "What's up? What do you want to talk about?" We just started talking about business and things. He gave me resources that will help me in my business, and hopefully, I reciprocated it somehow. I don't know if I did, but it is the people like Tim, like Julie, like Dylan, like Christian. That is the cloth that they are all cut from. They are here to help people. That's why I love entrepreneurs. I love all of you. I mean it. I do. I love you. You guys are amazing. I didn't even get a crack at a Christian on that one. Jeez, I mean... there we go. That's a little better, but I'm telling you, he's working on StreamYard our stuff right now as we're on the show. I mean, I'm.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm really trying not to, seriously.

Brian Kelly:
The founder Geige Vandentop. If you ever watch this, there's a message to you. Ease up on your people. Alright? Just having fun. Alright, Timothy, you're an amazing guy. Thank you for spending your valuable time and coming on here. As well as Dylan, Julie, and the ever so talkative one, Christian. I'm not going to attempt to say your last name. I'll let you take care of that one. Welcome to the show, Christian. Let's hear all about your brilliance.

Christian Karasiewicz:
Sure. Thanks a lot for having me. My name is Christian Kerasiewicz. I'm the content marketing manager at StreamYard. So, pretty much anything you see on our blog that we're going to soon be launching. I'm the mastermind behind that. So, I do that. In addition to that, I also host live stream reviews, a YouTube show. We also do on the StreamYard YouTube channel where we invite people on to talk about their live streams and help them work through some of their problems, some of their challenges that they might be having with getting community or building a show. Thanks a lot for having me. I appreciate it.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, my gosh. Thank you again, Christian, for your time and being here. I mean, he's literally building a blog while on a live show. I mean, that's a great thing. I'm not even kidding with this one. That is phenomenal. That is showing such dedication. So, it's more than that. It's passion. It's love. You know? What time is that where you are, Christian?

Christian Karasiewicz:
About 9 o'clock, or yeah... about 9 o'clock.

Brian Kelly:
(Nine o'clock) PM. Ladies and gentlemen, in case you're watching this recording. Yes. By the way, I'm going to be on twenty-five different platforms after this is over. So no pressure, but don't mess up. I'm just kidding. So, this is a phenomenal group of people, and I can't wait to dig in. Christian, just what you just said, what you do is right down the alley of what I was hoping to talk about tonight. It'll go organically, but I wanted to talk about... I mean, look at Julie, and look at Christian, and look at their images. Look at their video. It is gorgeous. Here, we'll start with a really gorgeous one first. Look at that. I mean. If there were nose hairs that weren't in place, we'd see them. That's phenomenal, and there is Julie. Wow. Very beautiful. Even more beautiful. I should just have her up like this all the time, and we can just talk in the background. Because, you know, maybe more people would come on. So, you guys have phenomenal camera setups, and here's one thing I always like to preach to those who are getting into the live streaming game. Does it take money? Yes, it does. It takes resources. It takes cameras, microphones, (a) computer, internet, good internet, fast internet, lighting, doesn't have to be fancy. What I always say though, is, do the best you can with the resources you currently have. OK, I wanted to start it off that way because what we're about to talk about with Julie and Christian is their cameras. They are top of the line. We're not talking a one-hundred or two-hundred-dollar webcam here. I like to let ladies go first. So, Julie, do you have a story when you first turned on your new camera versus when you had the webcam and what that looked like and felt like.

Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh, I turned that camera on, and it was immediately noticeable (the difference). I actually did a live on my personal Facebook page where I logged myself in as a second user into StreamYard. I had my Logitech camera that I had been using up as a camera and then had my new one. So, I could do back and forth and show everybody the difference between the two. What an upgrade that was. The Logitech served me great for years. It didn't stop me from going live, but that upgrade was immediately like, "oh, I can never go back down now".

Brian Kelly:
So, that so that is one thing. Let's say you're on the road, and I can imagine at some point both you and Christian, maybe, you'll be sent on the road to maybe support conventions and things that are on the road. Now, you want to stream live, what are you going to do then?

Julie Riley:
Well, you know, the great thing about the Sony is (that) it's a small camera. Tripods, portable ones, are small. I can take it with me. If all else fails, and I'm either on my phone or I'm on my little webcam or even my built in webcam, it's not going to stop me from going live. Is it going to be exactly what I want? No, but more than likely I'll have the Sony with me.

Brian Kelly:
Thank you for saying that. I mean, that spoke such volumes. I hope people are taking notes that are watching. Definitely take notes on this. Because, look, the show must go on. That's what I say, and this show tonight is the result of a guest who unfortunately was ill and could not make it on. So, I scrambled and found these four wonderful people to say, "I'll come on and do a panel with you." And that's it. The show must go on, and I'm going to either do it with people or I'll do it solo. It doesn't matter. Consistency is key, and we can talk more about that, too. I love how you're just talking about, Julie. Where, look, I don't care where I'm at. If I've got something and it's my time to go live, and I don't have my gear. I'm doing it.

Julie Riley:
Right.

Brian Kelly:
I love that commitment. So, thank you for that. For everyone listening, that's important. Yes, quality is important. Like I said, do the best you can with what resources you currently have. That includes, wherever you are. You may have a DSL camera that Julie paid five-hundred thousand dollars for. Oh, sorry, it wasnt that much.

Julie Riley:
Thank God it wasnt that much!

Brian Kelly:
What was the model of that again?

Julie Riley:
A6000.

Brian Kelly:
What does it run about?

Julie Riley:
It was about seven hundred.

Brian Kelly:
OK, not too bad. A little bit less than five-hundred thousand. Not much but yeah.

Julie Riley:
Yeah.

It's a phenomenal thing, and I love that that's your attitude toward commitment. I'll tell you. You have a similar attitude...anytime I go and ask for support through the back side of StreamYard community. I mean, like through messaging. When I say the backside, that's sounded weird. When I ask for support, you're always there. I mean, you don't sleep, and I appreciate that. So, keep not sleeping for everybody's sake. Christian, you do the same. So, Christian, what about you? When you made that initial change from whatever camera you had before to this unbelievably clear one year look you're working with right now. What did that feel like the moment you saw a difference?

Christian Karasiewicz:
So, it's very interesting actually. So, this is actually what I was using before. I've been using this for quite a number of years. This is a Logitech Brio. It does do 4K. I invested in this one and eventually came out, and the quality was fantastic. The only thing was, though. I wanted to scale. So this was great for traveling, for example. This is what I took around with me. Super portable. It's got the ability to put it on a tripod. Fantastic, but it did not allow me to scale, so I had to always take up another USB port and all that sort of thing. When I moved to the Sony, the Sony looked very good. I will say the one thing you have to do, though, is you need to go through the settings. There are a few adjustments you want to change. That's what's going to actually enhance your picture quality of it. It's a fantastic camera. It's a Sony 6400. Then, really, the other side to it is also the lens. So I'm using a Sigma lens. So, that I think is the real big difference. I mean you have the kit lenses it comes with. I did make the investment in the the additional lens, which I think that's actually what's contributing to why it looks so good. I will say from a quality standpoint, again, start with what you have. You know, the key things for live streaming. Audio is going to be your most important part. Then also, if you, for example, are using one of these webcams, make sure you have enough light. These things look great with a lot of light. When you don't have a lot of light, you're going to see pixelation. You're going to see distortion and things like that. So, turn it back to you.

Brian Kelly:
Especially with light, if you turn on the green screen feature, you really need to have good lighting then. That's the biggest time. I'm so glad to be liberated from that. Even though I loved it. This is actually a natural well behind me. I painted the entire studio. I actually occupy my daughter's former bedroom. I've been here for four or five years now, and I finally got rid of the cartoon drawings and the yellow paint. I'm a real boy now. I have a real studio. This is awesome.

Christian Karasiewicz:
That looks really good by the way. I was very surprised (by) your background because that looks like one of the standard backgrounds people would normally bring up during a live stream. One that has, you know, the gradient going around the outside. So, whoever did the painting on that fantastic job.

Brian Kelly:
Why, thank you very much. My wife did most of the work to be honest, but I feel like that helps with that. Yeah.

Timothy McNeely:
If you want that comparison between cameras. Right. Christine was just talking about the Logitech Brio. That's what I'm on, and you can see the massive quality difference between Kristen and Julie versus the webcam. So. Right. (A) huge step up.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, we'll point that out in glowing detail right now.

Christian Karasiewicz:
You're using a green screen. Right?

Timothy McNeely:
Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
Your sound, Christian, is smooth. I mean, you have a great radio voice. Having that microphone, I think will pivot to that too. Dylan, what are your thoughts on cameras? Yours looks actually really decent right now? You're on (a) green screen, correct?

Dylan Shinholser:
Correct. Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
It looks really clean. You've done a good job with all the lighting. It's almost like you've done this before, and you know what you're doing.

Dylan Shinholser:
I try. Yeah. So, I actually when I first started doing it, I started listening back on my phone. When this whole pandemic hit, I was using the one inside your laptop and realized very quickly (that) I'm on calls all day, live streaming shows and stuff. I was like, "I got to set my game up." So, I haven't made that leap yet to the DSLR, but I will. I'm on a Logitech, one of the models. I won't even lie because I'm not that tech-savvy. It was expensive for Logitech, so I bought it. I was like, "it's got to work." So, yeah. So, that's where I'm at. I agree heavily. I think it comes down to, because we get asked it and I know you guys get asked, it comes down to what you can afford at the moment. Then always trying to push the limits of production value. Right? My background was a wall. It was just like random yellow wall, and now I have a giant green screen wallpaper now. So, now, I can be wherever I want which is a concert. That's where I want to be, and that's where I'm going to be.

Brian Kelly:
You're the one on the stage, brother. Not the audience.

Dylan Shinholser:
No, I'm actually the guy behind the stage. I never want to be this. It's actually weird for me to be in front of people. I'm the guy behind the stage telling people to get on the stage.

Brian Kelly:
Pushing them forward. Well, you do a good job, Dylan. I wouldn't know any different. Maybe your calling is to step out from behind and be on front more often.

Dylan Shinholser:
We will see. Twenty twenty-one has a lot of stuff, and I've got a long way to go. I got super bored in twenty-twenty so I might as well talk.

Brian Kelly:
I've gotten to know you a little bit over time, and you've got a great personality. I think you need to shine in front of more people. That's my humble opinion.

Dylan Shinholser:
I appreciate that.

In the front, not behind the scenes. It's okay to be behind the scenes on occasion, but someone like you with your personality and your integrity, your character...get out there, buddy. It's a disservice if we don't get to see you. Let me put it that way.

That's what a mentor of mine said. He was like, "dude, you're actually being selfish by not talking more and getting it out." Because like I said at the beginning, I only want to help more people create better experiences and events. Make them flow better and make them more money as humanly possible. At the end of the day, I just want to travel the world with cool people and do cool things. I've learned a lot, and a lot of people need some of that experience. So, I got a stern talking to by one of my mentors. He was like, "dude..." I was like, "alright, it's alright. I promise." I started live streaming then had to get better cameras, better lights going on. It's crazy up here in my little command center of all these different lights, webcams, and monitors. Everything you need to do to pull these shows off.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I love it. Christian, go ahead.

Christian Karasiewicz:
So, I want to throw something in there real quick. We talked about various types of cameras. If you're just getting started, use that built-in laptop, the webcam. So then you can take it up a notch. You can go to the Logitech. The C922. That's about, I think, a 60 to 70 dollar webcam. So, don't overpay by the way. It's about 60 to 70 dollars. Get it from Logitec, probably. If you find an astronomical price on Amazon, move up to like the Brio, for example. If your budget allows it, that's about one hundred fifty dollar camera. Then move up to a DSLR. For example, Julie's got that, the Sony 6000. I would also say if you happen to have a smartphone, this can be used as a webcam. Essentially, if you think about it, this is a thousand dollar camera. Because you paid a thousand dollars for this device of sorts, and this will give you some phenomenal picture quality. If you already have a smartphone and you don't have to have the latest iPhone, it could be pretty much any iPhone and Android phone. You just need an app such as one called,"Camo." There's one called,"Erion." So, there are lots of apps out there. Don't think like, "hey, I have to now go drop a bunch of money." Look at the phones you have lying around. Those are going to be great ways to fix your picture quality.

Julie Riley:
I've been going live since 2015, and I only had this camera last year.

Brian Kelly:
That's it. You keep reinvesting. I had a good friend of mine who were business partners. He said, I'll never forget it,"sales drive service". When you're making money, you're able to invest. You're able to up your game, and I love that. So many great points. You can just set a phone on a tripod and your camera will look better than many people's webcams. For sure. One of the things that I would recommend, this isn't just a plug StreamYard, is to get at least get the free plan. Do they need any more than the free plan to be part of the community, Julie?

Julie Riley:
No. They can come to join the community even if they're just getting started into streaming. We do like everybody to have the free plan so they have an understanding, but we'll still let you in. Agree to the rules. That's the big thing. Yeah, come join the StreamYard community. It's really a "stream yard" community.

Brian Kelly:
It's a very valuable place because questions like what Christian just addressed are often asked (What do I need?). I'm just starting. I'm a newbie. I see that so much in there. What can you do to help with a camera or microphone or computer? You can go there if you have those questions and ask, and the community will fill in the blanks wonderfully well because they're a great bunch of people. Just like Tim down there who's gotten pushed to the side for a while. So, Tim, is this your first camera that you've been using for live streaming so far? Did you have one before it?

Timothy McNeely:
Yeah, right. I started with just an HD one. Right. Logitech and then jumped up to the Brio. Been happy with that so far. But, you know, it's interesting how the game keeps growing again. That's the thing, right? Just get started! Just do this. I started with just using zoom and recording those for my interviews, and then I realized (that) I need a better platform. I need a way to kind of do that live production. Now I'm doing Stream Yard and got intros. Just get started with whatever you've got and kind of build that proof of concept. You know, I recently just upgraded my lights because I bought the cheapest lights I could at first. I just wanted to do something, and done is better than not done a lot of times.

Brian Kelly:
I totally agree with everything you just said and like what Christian was saying. If you're going to put money into anything, make it the audio side of things first when you upgrade. I was fortunate. I started over nine years ago streaming live. This is a DSLR. Not a DSLR. Good grief, XLR microphone. It's old school. It's not even USB. So I plug it into a mixer board, and from there into my computer. I've used it for years. It's been just amazing. I've never had to do anything with my sound as a result. For you, there are great USB alternatives now. Oh my gosh, there are so many out there. Someone like Christian could probably point you in the right way. Someone like the StreamYard community could push you in the right way and tell you,"these are the ones". I have a connection with the guy who is a sound expert. I've never heard of this before. He has a studio that does 4D sound. I don't even know what that means. Four dementional?

Christian Karasiewicz:
Sweet.

I don't know what that means, audibly. He was telling me about speakers in the ceiling. I'm like, holy moly,. You don't need that obviously for a talk show like this, but think about the possibilities and have fun with it. The bottom line is, when you go on and go live. Enjoy yourself. I'm trying to do that a little bit with these fine people tonight. Thankfully, they're still here with me. I haven't upset them too great, especially Christian. I keep picking on him. Poor guy. I appreciate you all, and it's okay to have fun on your show. Would you guys agree with that? Is it okay to have a little bit of fun?

Julie Riley:
One hundred percent. If you're having fun, your audience is going to be having fun with you.

If you're not having fun... I don't believe in doing anything that I don't find fun. It's a life motto of mine. If I don't want to do it, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Like you said, Julie. If you're not having fun with it, then how in the world do you expect the viewers to want to have fun or engage or interact? It starts with you.

Brian Kelly:
Absolutely, absolutely. One of the things I wanted to pivot to is something I'm deeply interested in because the product that came up earlier when I did the quick ads spot. I like to solve the pain points that people are having in their live streaming experiences. I'm curious. I'll bet, Julie and Christian, you guys have seen and heard a lot about that. I actually had a team member of mine from my company put a poll up in the form of a meme, a graphic. What's the right word? I am having trouble with words these days. It's an infograph. That's it. Simple. I was a little bit shocked by the result, but I was just curious what you guys think. What are the biggest pain points you're seeing? (Either) that you're having individually. Tim, if you have that as well. Dylan as well. Dylan, you probably hear about a bunch of it as well. What are the pain points you are seeing come back over and over and over again? I'm having a horrible time trying to find another guest on my show if they're interview style, or the tech is just blowing my mind. Even though StreamYard is so simple. I'm having trouble with x, y, z. Let's just go around the horn. Dylan, if you don't mind, I put you on the spot. Can you think of any of those pain points that keep coming up over and over again?

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. The biggest thing I see is they underestimate what it does take. I totally agree. Why I promote StreamYard to our clients and everyone I possibly can is because of the ease of use. People go into it and think shows are just like setting up the webcam, and they can be. Setting up the webcam and just talking. Right? There's a lot of back end stuff to this. These shows and I'm learning that as doing my own now. I'm like, holy cow, I'm about to hire fifteen people because this is absurd. But, yeah. I think that's the biggest thing that I see is underestimating it, but also at the same time, they overcomplicate it. They have to think (that) they have to have all these bells and whistles and seventeen thousand cameras and two million dollar microphones. It goes back to our first point of "just do it". It doesn't need to be overcomplicated, but understand going into it, there is some work that takes and understand that you do have to respect what it takes to put these on. At the same time, don't overcomplicate it. It's funny how people work. They overestimate or underestimate it, but then heavily overcomplicate it at the same time. I think that's the biggest one I see.

Brian Kelly:
I'm so glad you brought that up. I've said this so many times, people don't realize what goes on behind the scenes before the show even comes on live for that episode. The amount of time and effort. If you want to do a live show that's of quality and represent yourself and your brand in a way that you want it to be represented professionally. It takes a good amount of work for every single show. That's why I automated nearly every process (that) I use now. It took time to get there, but you can use a team. You can get a team. Like you said, Dylan, to also help out. For me, it's all about quality, and more time is spent before the show by far than the show itself. After the show is over, another good deal of time is spent. That is in the minor edits, the repurposing, the marketing, and everything else that goes beyond. The live show is this tiny window of time, and it's the fun is part of it by the way. When you have everything automated, the rest is not "not fun" because you're not doing it. It's all automated, but definitely great. Thank you for that. Julie, what has been some of the big p.. sorry to wake you up there. What have been some of the big pain points? You are wide awake. I just starttled you. You've seen over and over, I bet you've seen a bunch of them.

Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh. So many, you know, especially because I'm approving all of the comments that are coming into the group. I think one of the huge ones is that the hesitation of people who believe that they have to have everything perfect. That they have to have all of the backdrops, the overlays, the banners, the super expensive microphone, and the super expensive camera. That they have it. The room behind them is messy. They haven't thought about turning to just a blank wall because they're like, "well, then I don't have a fancy studio set up." They get to this point where they're trying to create perfection, and perfection is a fairy tale. It doesn't exist. There is no such thing as perfection. There is, again, where Dylan said the overcomplicating it. They've got to really just slow down and go, "what do I need to get this process going?" What is the minimum to make it happen? From there, then I can then build on it, and build on it each week. Go, "okay, I got live. I got the first one out. I got the jitters out. I hate the way I sound." When I had my agency, I would tell my clients. They'd be like, "I can't stand the way I sound." I'm like, nobody likes the way (that) they sound. There's actually, and I say this all the time, there's a term for it that is a term for not liking the sound of your own voice. I tell people, you have to get over that fear. They're like,"I don't look good on camera, I don't know how to be on camera." The other thing I tell people is to set up a fake Facebook group with nobody else in it but you. Go live in there a bunch of times and just get those jitters out. Get that feeling of pressing the button and going live. Then invite your husband in, your sister, your mother, or whoever. Somebody so that you're talking to somebody. From there, build up each time. As we said with the cameras, again, you can you can slowly build. You can slowly add in the overlays. You can slowly add in the backgrounds.

Brian Kelly:
My goodness! I absolutely love it. I have my own Facebook group that I use just for that. Nothing more. I go in there, and I test things for StreamYard and other things in there. I go live in there because there's no substitute for going live. We've got more buttons to click, and things kind of change their arrangement just a little bit in the window. If you practiced it 20 times without going live, then you go live you're going to go, "what the heck just happened?" I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. That was perfect. Perfect advice. I love that. We've got a comment coming in or two or three. Yeah. Kelly, crucial. Kruschel. Sorry if I got that wrong.

Dylan Shinholser:
Kelly Kruschel. It's Kruschel. She said she's on my team. She's a friend. Hey, we've got a supporter.

Brian Kelly:
Love it. Love it. Then Fran Jesse, I know her. I'm getting ready to make my first video essentially input. Yeah. Reach out, Fran. We're friends. I will give you assistance in any way you want because this is the greatest this is the greatest avenue for media on the planet, in my humble opinion, for so many reasons. One is people get to see you. I love clubhouse. It's also phenomenal in different ways, but people get to see you. They get to interact with you. They can engage with you, and they get to see your essence. It doesn't cost you, the studio owner, studio time. If you do this in the old days when you have to go to a television studio and you want to do a show, it would cost you thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars just to use the studio. Let alone get the media time to put it up on a television station. We're living in wonderful times. It's the greatest time to be alive, in my humble opinion. I'm a tech geek. I'm not young anymore. I'm fifty six, but I can't wait for the rest of what my life has to hold. Yes. You're welcome, Fran. Any time. Wonderful. Wonderful. Alright. Where were we? I got all messed up and loving myself there. We're going to have fun. I'm being real. This is like... I don't know. I'm the most relaxed (that) I've been in a long time with everything that went on today. It was one of those weird, everything-going crazy days. I feel like I'm at home with you guys. That's why.

Dylan Shinholser:
It's been one of those years.

Brian Kelly:
Thank God that last one is over.

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, yeah. Sure.

Brian Kelly:
So, okay. Pain point. Let's go back around one more. Tim, what do you have?

Timothy McNeely:
Yeah. When I first started doing this, my whole goal was to get out there and to talk to the different experts in the different areas of the challenges that my my clients face. I started off as an interview show and just using Zoom to record the video. Then all of a sudden I had the video. Now I had to put an intro in. I had to put an exit in. I had to extract the audio so I could do the podcast. My team members and myself were spinning our wheels. Just trying to really kind of create a workflow around the creation of this content so we could get the message out and help people with their challenges. For me, all of a sudden, the revelation was (that) I can do this live. I can have people type in (and) ask comments as I'm doing the show. Not only that, from start to finish, I can produce the whole thing going live. Right? You go live. You can play an intro now. You can throw in little commercial breaks. You can throw in the outro, and then it's done. Download the audio. You throw it up, and now you've got your podcast. You don't have to upload video to YouTube and Facebook and LinkedIn. It's done for you now, automatically. So really my biggest pain point was just the production side of things and putting everything together so that I could keep talking to people and doing the fun part. Right? I don't want to get caught up in all the details of making this. I want to talk to people, learn, and share that knowledge. Really, a lot of the pain point, just using StreamYard has really been absolved because it's a turn-key easy to use platform.

Brian Kelly:
Amen to all of that brother. Here's the key for everyone that's ever going to do a live show or has done one. The most important part is that you show up and you be the talent. That means you need to be dedicated mentally toward what the task is at hand. If I have too many things going on, like production-wise, which I used to when I didn't automate things. That's in the back of my mind. Did I dot every "i"? Did I cross every "t"? What's going to screw up on this show? Versus showing up fully for my guest. Being there for them. Getting out of myself and my own business and being present for the other person, that's what I'm about. Lifting up the other people, that's what my show's about. It's important to me.

Timothy McNeely:
Actually, if I can touch on that talent piece, Brian? I think he brought something up so important for everyone listening to this. If you're doing any kind of a show where you're interviewing people, chances are (that) the person you're talking to (is) a little bit uncomfortable. Your job, as the talent, is to spend some time before the show really crafting what it's going to look like. What direction are you going to go in? You want to make that person you're talking to look like a star. The more you can rehearse with them and put them at ease, you're going to end up with a much, much better show. Because you've taken a little bit of time to make sure that (the) other person is going to shine just as bright as you do. So, take that time to work with your guests beforehand through interview guides, through little questionnaires. So that you can help prep them, to keep them on a thread, and you can really help them deliver their message. Most people are not trained professional speakers. They just aren't. I've hired some of the best speaking coaches to help me develop messages, stay on topic, and learn how to tell stories. People don't invest time, energy, and effort to do that. You can help them do that through a briefing before you start your live with them.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. That's why I was saying before, I do a thirty-minute preshow. All of us were on here for 30 minutes getting to know each other, making sure all the tech was good, doing some checkout. You were talking about people being nervous and stuff. That's why I'm riding Christian so hard with all these jokes and stuff because it broke his nervousness. You can see his sweating. I am so kidding. This guy's raw. He's a rock. He's awesome. He's a pro. I love this guy, man. I always pick on the quiet ones. I don't know why that is. Christian, man, you're bringing massive value. All kidding aside, you're very experienced. You're matched for what you do. You've said already so many amazing things. What about you, brother?

Christian Karasiewicz:
I'd say this. I think a couple of the pain points. I think one is people want to ask, "how do I get better at my live stream?" I think (that) the first thing is practice. To Julie's point, I think you mentioned having overlays, backgrounds, and all this other stuff. Look at it like this. You want to show your audience as well while you're helping them. You're doing this with them. You have everything at the same time, and you're trying to make everything perfect. Your audience is going to be like, "I'm not going to stick around this person because they've done such a good job already. I won't ever get to that point". They start having that self-doubt. The key thing is going to be practice. You don't have to have every single one of the overlays. Maybe start with the the intro or the thumbnail, and maybe you have an outro for example. (Those are) the first two things you do. As you build the show, then you can add segment graphics. You can add videos. So, you can scale it, but you don't have to have so much at one time because then it's just too overwhelming. That's point number one. Pain point number two is that people, for some reason, think that they're going to immediately be able to monetize their live stream. I say pain point because everybody's like, "oh, I bought all that equipment." Now, you've got to figure out how to pay for all that equipment, you know? If you're struggling already with your business and growing it, then you're not going to immediately monetize live stream. You have to have an audience. You know, you have to build that community. When you go live, they're tuning in because (of) the social platforms. They want to see that you're bringing viewers, they want to see engagement. So, point number two is monetizing your live stream. There are ways to do that, but don't always set out with monetization being number one. It could take a couple of years to monetize. So, get started. Build on it, then make those investments as your business is growing. Yes, mic drop. Yes.

Dylan Shinholser:
Do you have that mic? Just a mic drop? Because I might need to get one.

Brian Kelly:
It's actually super.

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, super real.

Christian Karasiewicz:
That's pretty cool, actually.

Julie Riley:
I like that.

Brian Kelly:
It's actually part of a magic trick that you put in a paper bag. It's a long story, but I found one more affordable that would not break my keyboard because that's what it landed on. You didn't hear it. Oh, my gosh. Golden nuggets there, as usual, from Christian who I give a lot of hard time to. I'm going to stop because you're amazing dude, and I don't want to get mad at me. I want you to be my friend. So many great things. So, you said two years. I was like, wow. I was watching an interview. How many of you have heard of Lewis Howes? Former professional football player and turned incredible entrepreneur. He's all over the place. He was being interviewed, and the guy interviewing him asked him a question. He said, "so, Lewis, if someone came to you, and they were talking about the fact they wanted to start a podcast. Now, we're talking just the audio version. That's what a podcast really is for everyone that may not know it's audio-only. Not video, even though they're going that way." He said, "well, here's what I'd tell them. First, you got to actually be consistent. Whenever you decide to do it, do it at that same day and that same time every week or multiple times a week. Whatever that happens to be. Number two, more importantly. You must commit yourself to doing that for at least, the magic number, two years. If they are not willing to do that, I would tell them, don't even get started." We didn't talk about monetization. None of that was discussed during this Q&A. That was telling. Who was I talking about this earlier with earlier today? It's not necessarily about monetizing. It's about building your platform, and I wanted to add to that. It took me in two years. I was just hitting that moment in time of my live show. That's when the momentum started. He was spot on, and so are you, Christian, about the two years. Then using a certain strategy (that) I use, I continually ask for referrals in a certain way. I eventually landed the one and only Les Brown. Some of you know who that is. Some of you don't. I've noticed some don't and Im like,"what rock are you living under?" He's amazing, and he's been on my show. Because of that, the two-year commitment is my point. Not talking about monetization. Then what I found after doing this for two years and striving for excellence all the time in every facet, I'm talking about the preshow communication with upcoming guests and the setup and the prep that they all go through and my system makes sure they do. The show itself and then after the show, all the post-production, everything that goes into it. Once you have that, people notice and my show, without my intending it to be, became an incredible, powerful lead magnet for my business. Focus, just as Christian was stating so properly, does definitely, positively impact your business. If you do it right. You do it high quality, and again, within reason within the resources you have. Go ahead, Christian.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I was going to say. That's another point that people look at, and they want to generate revenue off of it. That revenue may not be actual money upfront. It may end up being (help) (to) drive more leads to my website. It's not necessarily driving more people to my social channels. You're following is... It's OK. That's not going to necessarily grow your business because you had five more followers on Instagram or something like that. It's potentially getting them back to your website, which can be an opportunity for them to schedule a coaching call with you, maybe buy a product from you, learn from you for example. You're not going to get every single person to become a customer, but you're going to be able to use it to generate more leads.

Brian Kelly:
Totally, totally true.

Dylan Shinholser:
That's why I do it.

Brian Kelly:
You see on the top of this screen "streaming live on" and then five. We're doing it to eight right now or seven right now. "Listen-on" down below. On the bottom, there's actually twenty five of those like us could fit them all. Roku now was on Fire TV. Look, you're not making money from those, but here's what happened. How many of you have heard of Kevin Harrington? Shark Tank? Original Shark Tank? He has a partner named, "Seth Green", and they do a podcast together. They've been doing it for years now. They have five-hundred plus episodes. We got introduced, Seth and I. I met Kevin. We shared the stage once. I'm not name-dropping, but yes, I am. It was awesome, and it was fun. Seth reached out. We were connected by someone else. We were introduced, and Seth did his own homework. He came back, we literally talked on Zoom, and he says, "wow, I did some research. I looked you up and, my God, you're everywhere." I just wanted to say, "yeah, that's right." So, you want to get out there. That's why, shameless plug, I call it, "carpet bomb marketing". You saturate with everything you've got within reason. Right? If you can automate it, it can be near or completely free. So just do it. Why not add it to your arsenal? So, it works. Just be consistent to a minimum of two years. Get in touch with people like Julie, Christian, Tim, and Dylan. You might make that even quicker than two years. I'll direct you to the shortcuts that many of us did by trial and error.

Timothy McNeely:
Touching on the monetization piece, a good friend of mine runs one of the top coaching consultancies out there. Right. Very, very successful. Runs a great podcast, great show. I ask him one day. I said, "have you need any money doing your podcast?" He thought for a second. He says, "naw, I've actually lost money doing it. The relationships that I've made...I've made millions off (of) that." If you approach it from that standpoint... There's different goals, but I always approach, you know, what's the end result? What are you looking for out of your show? Why are you doing it? That's how you can measure the success of it. Is it helping you achieve whatever goals you set for yourself?

Brian Kelly:
Totally agree. It's very similar. Isn't it? To writing a book? I'm holding up another namedrop. Yes, it's very similar to writing your own book. Because a lot of people want to write a book and make a living off of the sales of the book. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, most of the time it just doesn't happen that way. If anyone comes up to you and you're talking to them... During the course of conversation, maybe you ask them what they've been up to? Or, hey, I've authored a book. The moment they say that, in your eyes, do they not lift up in an influence in your mind? Right then and there? Instantly. It builds authority. That's exactly what this live show, and live shows like it, are doing. When you're giving evidence of it by spitting it out to all of these platforms, there's no way people can't find you and know that you're serious. You know, it's showing that you have a commitment level. It's showing that you have a quality level of professionalism. It's not about the show itself. It's like, well, if I do business with that person, or will I... Will I want to do business that person? If they're professional. Yes. If they put on a shoddy show, they might give me shoddy service. If I do business with them. Does that make sense? People want to (be) representing yourself in the best. Do it the best you can, but do it. Please, don't delay. Don't try to be perfect. You heard everybody talk. Go ahead, Dylan. You had something?

Dylan Shinholser:
Well, yeah. There's indirect ways to make money with shows, live streams, and of course direct (ways). Right. Direct is selling sponsorships, ad-space, all that good stuff. The indirect monetization is so much more powerful. When I do shows or when I hop on shows or anything, it's literally just to build a top-down awareness of myself. I just want people to know what Dylan Shinholser is. Then that way, because I do multiple things, I'm never trying to sell one product at any given time. I'm trying to sell myself, and what it does is it gives me that outlet to do it. Then if you're hosting a show. Right? This maybe goes into some other topics around how to market and things like that. It's a powerful relationship tool because when you can open your platform to other people that you're looking to connect with. I'm in the business of working with influencers and throwing their events. Well, the best way to connect was get them on my show. It gave me a reason to reach out that wasn't pitchy or sales. It was more or less. Hey, man, I just want to give you an outlet, because I think what you talk about is cool. Tell my people about it. After the show, I was like, "hey, man, what are you doing next Tuesday? I need a speaker." Or "hey, man. I have some ideas (that) I want to pitch you or (some) things. They're more receptive. So, I always do shows and things not about the direct money I get, but the indirect thing. It's the indirect impact that I get from relationships, or people sharing my stuff out and people go, oh man, he sounds semi-intelligent unless they're watching this. Then then they'll go, okay, great. Let me go over to this platform that he runs with this business that he does or whatever because he sounded halfway intelligent on that show. Right? So, I think the indirect monetization is what most people don't... They don't get that the instant gratification of like that five thousand dollars sponsorship check. When I forgo that and go on to bring on much more money on the backend with the people I connect with, in the top influence that I get.

Brian Kelly:
The magic word there was "relationship".

Dylan Shinholser:
Relationships all day, every day. That's all I do- is build relationships, and how can I do it? Do more shows like this. Can I get it out? You're on like forty-two different podcast or outlets here, right? Every one of those. Every time you put a show on it, you're building a relationship with someone on that platform. Even if it's just you talking, and they're listening. You're building that relationship. Everything (that) I do, is built on: how can I develop relationships? Live streams is just an amazing way to do so.

Brian Kelly:
Posting them is one thing. Right? That's a great thing. What I learned through a podcasting expert friend of mine is the maybe not as equally important, but possibly greater importance, is getting on other people's shows. That includes audio podcasts only. He explained how his business skyrocketed when he did what he called, "podcast guest marathons". He would have someone get him booked in his team. He would carve out three days and just say get as many as you can for me. He'd do that. Then when they ask him about how to get in contact with him... This is the gold right here... It's not go to my Facebook page and look up my name and message me. He would tell them to go to his podcast website and from there to subscribe. Now he's building a following. It's genius. It's so genius. I just want to impart that. The cool thing, though, is when you're hosting a high-quality live show that opens the door for you to be a guest on many more.

Dylan Shinholser:
Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Being a guest is what goes back to the authority building. Right? If I can build my authority, I build my influence. If I do have something to sell... If I'm trying to build my brand or whatever it is or I'm just trying to get to as many people as possible to talk about events with them... That authority I call it, "authority hacking", being able to get them on your show. That'll get your show in front of their audience, and then going on to other shows helps you develop your authority. It's like writing a book. I was I'm a guest on this show, this show, this show. It's like writing a book. Your authority starts to become a little bit more when you're leveraging their influence. Right? When you're a guest on the show, if that show has a following, you becoming a guest on that show gives you authority because now you have the validation of the host that everyone is following and love. So, I can authority hack by getting on other people's shows.

Brian Kelly:
It leverges. You have a whole new tribe watching and interacting with you as well. I mean, this is one of the most powerful things people can use. If they just get out of that rut of trying to find a way to make money with it directly, that's when they'll see the real value come through. It's about building relationships. It's long-term. Not short, quick kill. I got to make a commission and run. It's build a relationship. Establish it. If you go into this with the mindset of it not being for directly making money, I personally think you have greater success. The long-term plays always work better than the short-term. Short-term works can work, but they're temporary. The long-term is a lot more permanent and lasting. Just think of all the wonderful bread crumbs you're leaving throughout the world. Through all the venues and platforms we've been talking about. In speaking terms, if you're on stage, that's what we call a "stage swap". Where you would be a guest on someone else's stage in return for them saying, "okay, but I'm going to do the opposite." We'll have you on our as well. The same thing with podcasts and live video. It works really great. Just make sure they're a fit.

Dylan Shinholser:
They've got to fit. (It's) got to makes sense.

Brian Kelly:
Both ways. Yeah.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I want to add something real quick to that. If you are consistently going live, so it's great to be consistent, go live on a regular basis, but also think about the long game. It's a couple of years, for example. Also, don't be afraid to be making changes and adjustments as things are moving along. It's not about substituting equipment. It's about looking at your process. For example, you mentioned Brian, that you have automation on some of the things. Think of smarter ways to take bigger jumps ahead. If I have to send someone an email, and I'm like, "hey, do you want to be on my show?" Then I have to deal with the whole back and forth. Well, okay. Yeah. What time? Then I have to send everything back. There are tools out there like Calendly, Harmonizely. You can send a calendar link to somebody and they can only book a certain slot for example and vice versa. This takes out the guesswork out of having to do all that back and forth. That's a way to work smarter because now you want to book people for your show. You send them one link. The person then doesn't have to send you a message back, and you can even use it to collect feedback for your show questions. There's not a lot of back-and-forth and downtime.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, absolutely. I do that as well, and it's a godsend. I could not do what I'm doing. I would not do what I'm doing without the automation part of it. I have an onboarding form. You guys all... Most, not all of you went through it, but that was a mini version. Julie, you went through the big version. I then changed it right after I saw that. Like you said, make adjustments. That's what I did. I'm constantly doing that. Improving. I have a document automatically generated in Google Docs with your bio. The answer you had to why you think you would bring value to the show. Also, all the questions you chose to be asked for the show. Some of you didn't see that. So everything's done. The Q&A part used to take hours and hours doing manually. Now I just give them thirty-eight questions. Choose ten, and we're good. You tick the box. You choose what I'm going to ask you. (I) just made it a system, and it has worked beautifully. I don't even use the ten questions hardly. I use maybe the first three. Then we go organically like we've been doing tonight. My God, it's six twenty-nine! Are you kidding me? I'm having too much fun. Real quick. I know everyone that came on in the beginning. You heard this thing about a prize. We're going to do that real quick, and we'll come back and wrap it up. For those of you watching, remember in the beginning I said, "take notes and don't go clicking away and stuff like that"? Now I think Dylan, Julie, Tim, and Christian will also give you permission to do what I'm saying, and that is take out your phone. Take your gaze away from us for just a moment, but you'll still have to look back. Yes, yes. You can do this too. Please, do. What I want you to do....

Dylan Shinholser:
I need a vacation.

This is how you can enter to win a five-night stay at a five-star luxury resort of your choosing. Here's what you do. Take out your message app on your phone. Fire that up- your text message app. Where you would type in the name of the person normally that you're going to text. Instead, put in this number: three, one, four, six, six five-they're all doing it behind the scenes- one, seven, six, seven. I love this. Three, one, four, six, six, five, one, seven, six, seven. If you're watching this and you're not a guest, go ahead and write this down because I gonna take the screen down. I want you to get it. This will be open until the end of the evening. Where you actually put in the message... Where you might put emojis, those kinds of things, not emojis, just two words separated by a dash or a hyphen. Those words are peak (P-E-A-K) dash Vacation (V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N). All together. No spaces. Peak vacation. Send it off, then monitor your phone. You're going to get an automated response back asking you for your email address, and that will then officially enter you into the contest. Compliments of The Big Insider Secrets. Our buddies, Jason Nash, the owner. Dear friend of mine who lets us give this away every single week. Every show, actually. We do more than one a week now on average. So go ahead, get that entered. I can't wait to see who's going to win that. You're going to be asked later, you don't have to if you're the winner, to provide your Facebook information. Just your profile so we can say congrats and give you a high-five online and get others to come watch the show. To be honest, that's another strategy. We're just rolling back the curtain. That's why we do it this way. You can offer incentives like that. My friend has offered that to anyone who is my friend. If you're not my friend, you don't get it. If you're on as part of the panel here, they're all my friends. Christian may differ on that opinion, but I think he's my friend.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm your friend. Yes.

Brian Kelly:
Ok, good. I picked on you so hard. I apologize, but you're just you're a fun guy. I appreciate you for putting up with it. I definitely do stuff like that. Implement it and announce it in the beginning. That helps retention. I'm just pulling back the curtain for everybody. You can do different things like that. Having multiple people, I noticed, is also a little better than just one every single time. So, mix it up now and then. Alright. I know we're a little bit over, but I want to give you each another chance for a final parting tip. Anything you want on live streaming. It could be hardware, software, how you smile, what bling you wear, don't wear, your makeup. I'm wearing some, by the way, just so the guys know. Yeah, I don't know what they call it. It's not like guy up.. guy-liner, but it's like makeup. I know. That was bad.

Dylan Shinholser:
I haven't heard of that one.

Brian Kelly:
I just did that. I'm not a young fart anymore. Anyway. So, Dylan, we'll do the same thing. Go around the horn. What would be one final quick tip, or parting words of advice, you can give our wonderful viewing and listening audience?

Dylan Shinholser:
Keep it simple stupid. Don't overcomplicate it. There's things that you need to do and standards you need to meet. At the end of the day, keep it simple stupid will allow you to not overcomplicated it (and) get overwhelmed. Once you get overwhelmed, it's a wash. I would just say as a life advice, event advice, live stream advice, just keep it simple stupid and keep it moving.

Brian Kelly:
Real quick, I got to interject on that. Just so people know that that comes from an acronym K.I.S.S. So we're not calling everybody stupid, for one.

Dylan Shinholser:
Well...

Brian Kelly:
That was great. I have a friend who is Sicilian in nature, and he did this from the stage. He talked about it, and he brought up the whole thing. We're talking about doing it without complicating it. He goes, "It's like K.I.S.S. Who knows what K.I.S.S means?" Someone raised their hands. They said, "keep it simple, stupid". He goes,"Oh, no, no. It's keep it simple Sicilian." He lighten the load of the stupid part. I thought that was cool. Sorry, Julie, what is your parting tip?

Julie Riley:
You know, you're going to have to get started at some point. In order to do that, you're going to have to get over your fear. Go practice. Get those done, but also go watch and find other people that you resonate with their live shows. Start to take pieces from each of those. Now, obviously, you cannot go copy their live show and recreate it. You can pull little things from multiple different people's live shows that you like and that resonate with you. If you're comfortable and things are resonating with you, you're going to exude that comfort and that confidence out to the rest of the world.

Brian Kelly:
I love it. I love it. Alright. The man, the myth, the legend, Timothy J. McNeely. What is your final parting word of advice?

Timothy McNeely:
I'm going to close with a story. The purpose of this story is to illustrate the power of doing a show. July 20th, 1969, the first man walked on the moon. He left his footprints up there. On the moon, there's no wind. There's no rain. There's no weather, and those footprints today in twenty twenty-one look exactly like they did in nineteen sixty-nine. They're going to be exactly the same a million years from now. You too. You leave footprints on the hearts and the minds of everyone that you come in contact with. In streaming and having a platform, that's your opportunity to leave your footprints and to have an impact on people. Get clear about what your message is. What's the impact you want to have? If you do that, all of the other puzzle pieces are going to fall in place for you.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, baby. Okay, I've got to do it. I've got to do it. That was amazing.

Dylan Shinholser:
You have to get one of the little lower third animation gifts that are possible here on StreamYard. It's just a mic drop every time someone does one.

Brian Kelly:
Not nearly as much fun though, bro.

Christian Karasiewicz:
That's true. Fair. Very fair. I'll give it to you. I've got to get me one of those little squishy microphones.

Brian Kelly:
A little sound effect like I just broke my desk or something. That would be good. Alright, Christian, you've had a long time to think about it now. No pressure, but this better be a good one. I'm kidding. What do you have?

Christian Karasiewicz:
Let's see. The best piece of advice, I think, would be don't have gas or gear acquisition syndrome. You're going to watch people doing their live streams, and they're going to go and be like, "hey, I got to get that mic because this person upgraded." Oh, they got a new webcam. Remember? If you develop a plan, the whole thing is work the plan.. work the system. It's great (that) somebody else got some equipment, but it doesn't mean that you need to go out and get that yourself as well. Remember, work your plan. When you get to the certain points, maybe set that as a milestone. If I get to a certain number of viewers, for example, or a certain number of subscribers on a channel, then I might need to upgrade something. Don't be buying stuff just because someone else is doing so.

Brian Kelly:
Sales drive service. I love it. You guys are amazing. Thank you so much for coming on. Everyone who watched live. Thank you for coming on. Those of you that watched on the recording. Thank you for spending your valuable time with us, and those listening on the podcast. The same goes for you. Definitely. I hope you took a lot of notes because these are experts in the field. They are giving their value, their heart, their experience. They only charged me two-hundred thousand dollars for it. It's really been a deal. I'm kidding. They charged me nothing. You got incredible value from these amazing, amazing professionals. I can't thank you all enough. I appreciate you Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. Thank you from the bottom of my heart with all seriousness. I know we had some fun tonight. Thank you, Christian, so much for letting me pick on you so hard. You've been a great guy. I look forward to getting to know each and every one of you at a deeper level. If you're open to that after tonight. Appreciate you all. On behalf of these amazing people, that's it. We're out. My name is Brian Kelly. I'm the host of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Until next time we will see you. Be blessed. So long for now.

Narrator :
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