Special Guest Expert - Pamela Gregory

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Announcer:
Welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. The three keys to your success is just moments away. Here's your host Brian Kelly.

Brian Kelly:
Hello everyone and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Oh my goodness, have we got an amazing show lined up for you tonight. I cannot wait for you to meet our special Guest Expert Pamela Gregory. She is amazing, beyond amazing. She has an amazing mission and purpose and I just can't wait to share her with you. Before we do that, real quick, The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. For those of you that might be new to the show what is that all about? Well it all starts with mind or mindset. When it comes to success in my 54-years on this planet now I've learned from those who are successful, I focused on those who were successful, and found that there were patterns that developed in each of them that helped them to rise to their level of current success. And it all started with the foundation of all success in both business and personal life. And that is your mindset. And when you are able to master your mindset to serve you better. And oh we're going to hit it tonight. I love it. I can't wait. Then you will be operating at a higher level of performance and then there's body. What is that all about? Well with the body it is just what it says it's its nutrition. It's working out taking care of your body and so that you're operating the body at a peak level of performance as well. And I'd like to say the mind and body are a team, and even more importantly, the mind and body are your team. And so think of it like this: We have we have basketball playoffs going on right now. There are 5 players on that on the floor at any given time for each team. And let's say one of those players decided in the off season to take it easy and not practice, not stay in shape. And he's a starter in play and they go out on the court just 1 player that's not operating at peak level of performance, what do you think happens to the team as a whole? Yeah, you guessed it. They're not operating at their highest level, same thing with mind and body. And then there's business. Business is multifaceted. It includes things like sales, marketing, team building, systematizing and many other things. And when you are able to master each of those individual areas you will see incredible improvements in your business and in your life. Now when you combine all 3 and go after mastering all 3 and you are reaching it or you have mastered all 3 then I say you are at operating at what I call a level of peak performance and hence the name of my company Reach Your Peak. And it's amazing, you know, about success, because I remember many many years ago going back I had a mentor of mine who gave me some incredible advice. And what he said was amazing but, it was also, I made a huge mistake. And what he did, I was, I was in his office. He was a multimillionaire CEO of a company, a corner office top floor. All that back east and we were in the middle of striking up a deal. We had a contract to sign and it was a 2-day trip. I spent 2 days in his office. I'm at one point sitting on the couch in his office, he's standing and talking to me looking at me directly. And he said Brian, at one point, he said Brian if people only knew, if they just did this one thing, if he just did this one thing they would all be super rich. I'm like, "Wow, he's got my interest." So, ok, what is it? At that moment he turned kind of coyly backward, went back to the opposing wall behind him, and there was a cabinet from floor to ceiling with 2 doors. He went back, he grabbed both handles, looked back at me and opened them up. And what he revealed was very similar to what you see behind me right now. It was shelf after shelf after shelf of books. And he said all they need to do is read. And more importantly it's not just reading books but reading the right books on business, on personal development, on health, wellness. It all goes together. And I made a huge mistake at that moment, because I completely, I completely ignored that advice. I said to myself, "It can't be that easy. It can't be that easy." "There's not enough skin in the game," I'm thinking, "My goodness, I could literally go to a library." Remember those? (laughs) "You can go to the library and check out a book for free." So I didn't have to pay any money if I needed to read these books. I wouldn't have to pay any money, so I thought that can't be, that cannot be correct. But thankfully, thankfully, thankfully many years later I ran into another gentleman who would then become my mentor. And we worked together for years. I actually spoke from his stage, trained his students for half of their events. They had 2- and 3-day live events, and over the course of time. And one day I remember being in his house and he's walking around with headphones on. And I was a little curious. This was some time ago as well. I said, "Well hey man, what are you doing?" And he kind of lifts his little ear cuffs; "What me? This? Yeah, I'm listening to a book." I said, "Wait, what? You're listening to a book?" Ok, recognize back then, Audible was brand new (laughs). So this was a new concept for me. And I thought, "Wow, Ok. I got that advice over a decade ago, and now my mentor is, is not only telling me to do it, in fact he's not, he's actually just doing it. He's showing by action." And I thought, "Ok, let me give that a shot." Oh my goodness, my world opened up, because I love, I found that I love listening to books. Everyone has their favorite way of ingesting information. Yours might be reading or seeing, watching video of a, of a story or it could be that you are ok with just listening. For me listening is much easier; I ingest and retain much better. And so I began reading voraciously book after book after book, couldn't get enough. And I used Audible. One of the great things with Audible is, as you're, no matter where you are,I'm often listening to it in the car. It's like a university on wheels. What else am I gonna be doing, listening to music or something else that's not serving me? It might be relaxing me and that's ok, on occasion for me. But most of time I'm listening to a book. And while I'm listening, Audible gives you this nice little feature: if you hear something that you really, that really compels you, that really jumped out or you just want to go back and revisit, you can just tap this little icon, and what it is as a bookmark. And it stores that position in time, and you can go retrieve that either on your Android or iPhone or Apple device or even on the web and go re-listen to it. And so that's what I began doing. I began just wearing that bookmark, ribbon, button out. And what I'm going to do tonight, right now, for you is share with you one little snippet in a segment I appropriately call Bookmarks.

Announcer:
Bookmarks. Born to read bookmarks. Ready, steady, read. Bookmarks. Brought to you by ReachYourPeakLibrary.com.

Brian Kelly:
There you see at my side (new screen display) that's ReachYourPeakLibrary.com. And by the way, take out a notepad and a pen. You will want to take notes not primarily for what I'm telling you now, you do want to include that, but really when Pamela Gregory comes on, which I promise is very, very soon, in other words, stay with us here now. Don't run off and look at these resources; don't type in the URL. Stay with us. Take notes and then after the show's over-they're all recorded, they're all free-you can then go back to your notes and go check out those resources. Sound fair? Cool, cool. So you can see there the number 1 reason for lack of success is not simply a lack of reading books. Again, it's a lack of reading the right books. And so I created this website due to my own experience of completely discounting that gentleman's advice. I thought it's important for others to have a resource that they can go to where they don't have to guess. So what I did was I started compiling all the books that had impact on me personally. So not every book I've ever read is in this, in this list. In fact I'm actually quite a bit behind. There are about 40 though or so that are all in that genre, in business and personal development and fitness and health and wellness. And it just goes on and on. And there's roughly 40 in here now. I'm probably 20, 30, 40 behind. I don't know. I have to go back and revisit that. This I built for you. I built this website for you: the entrepreneur. The person that is either looking to start learning about entrepreneurship and really taking the next level, or someone who is already doing very well and just wants another resource or a library of someone's vetted list that they can go to and say there might be a book or 2 in there that you haven't read. This happens to me all the time. Pamela, who's going to be coming on the show, will probably have a few suggestions for books herself. I wouldn't doubt it in the least. So what I'd like to do at this moment is actually go and play one of those Bookmarks that I tapped on my phone at that time. And it's by a gentleman by the name of Stephen R. Covey; it's called The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. Great book, highly, highly recommend that you go grab a copy if you don't have it. I believe that one is on the site already. So what we're gonna do is take a listen. It's about a minute and a 1/2 in length, but do take notes on this as well. And then I promise right after that we are going to bring on our special Guest Expert. So go ahead, take a quick close, listen and take notes.

Narrator:
It is called solution selling, and is a key paradigm in business success. The response is usually agreement. Most people can see how powerfully such an approach would affect their opportunities for employment or advancement. But many of them fail to take the necessary steps, the initiative to make it happen. I don't know where to go to take the interest and aptitude tests. How do I study industrial and organizational problems? No one wants to help me. I don't have any idea how to make an effective presentation. Many people wait for something to happen or for someone to take care of them. But people who end up with the good jobs are the proactive ones who are solutions to problems, not problems themselves, who seize the initiative to do whatever is necessary, consistent with correct principles, to get the job done. Whenever someone in our family even one of the younger children takes an irresponsible position and waits for someone else to make things happen or to provide a solution, we tell them, "Use your R and I." That stands for resourcefulness and initiative. R and I. In fact often before we can say it, they answer their own complaints, "I know, I know, use my R and I." Holding people to the responsible course is not demeaning, it is affirming. Proactivity is part of human nature and although the proactive muscles may be dormant they are there. By respecting the proactive nature of other people, we provide them with at least 1 clear, undistorted reflection from the social mirror.

Brian Kelly:
All right, we'll stop it right there. And one of the biggest takeaways I got from that blurb was near the beginning of it and that was a lot of people will wait to see if others will do things for them. And that is so rampant, especially in the corporate arena where I've come from years ago. And you know you're always looking for someone else to carry you ... looking for that lucky lotto winning, winning ball, things like that, instead of taking action, taking your own cause in life and just continually moving forward. Take responsibility for yourself, for your life. And that's a common theme through nearly every book you'll see in this library. It's a common theme with every Guest Expert. Pamela is no exception. And as a matter of fact, guess what time it is right now. You guess it. It's time to bring on our special Guest Expert.

Announcer:
It's time for the Guest Expert Spotlight. Savvy. Skillful. Professional. Adept. Trained. Big League. Qualified.

Brian Kelly:
And there she is ladies and gentlemen! The one, the only, Pamela Gregory! I'm so excited. Pamela, thanks so much for coming on tonight. I'm so, so happy that you're here.

Pamela Gregory:
I'm so happy to be here. Thank you for having me.

Brian Kelly:
Fantastic. What I'd like to do is, real quick before we formally introduce you, Pamela, is I want to remind our viewers that are watching live that they can, if they stay on to the end, they have the opportunity to win a 5-night stay at a 5-star resort in Mexico. And it's all compliments of a wonderful company called PowerTexting.com, Jason Nast and Ronda, both holding, doing that company. And it's an amazing, amazing trip. It's not a timeshare. It's a legitimate vacation stay, so 5-nights. It's worth, it's worth over a $1,000. No kidding. So stay on with us to the very, very end.

Pamela Gregory:
I was going to, but, ok (laughs). Do I qualify?

Brian Kelly:
Love it, love it. So Pamela Gregory, she is an emotional fitness specialist. She began her career in the health and wellness industry over 30 years ago where she worked as a fitness trainer and nutritional consultant. In 2003, her focus shifted to emotional fitness and the healing impact forgiveness has on one's healthy by blending the science of psycho- neural-immunology ... how did I do? (laughs) ... the study of how the mind and emotions affect the immune system. It's very interesting. And the spiritual practice of forgiveness. She developed a unique proprietary protocol called the Forgiveness Healing Process. Her intensive work with cancer patients at Utopia Wellness in Tampa, Florida, helped Pamela fine tune her protocol to quickly ascertain the unique root cause of each patient's unhealed trauma, allowing them to achieve results where other methods have failed. Wait till you hear what she has to say about this. What Pamela has found is close to 100 percent of all, all illness regardless of what is called, is a symptom of an underlying, unresolved emotional condition. This is, I am, my goose bumps are poking through my jacket. This is amazing. I cannot wait to get into this at a deeper level with you Pamela. And before we move on, because that's a great high level view of what you do, what you stand for. Now let's, let's go a little bit deeper and find out more about what makes you tick. Like, when you get up in the morning. We all know, our feet hit the ground, like, we hope, in the morning, and we get up at that moment we might be a little groggy, a little bit, you know, not, not really there. But then something kicks in. This happens with every entrepreneur I've ever met. And it's that drive. And for you that motivation. What, what comes through your mind? Maybe it's different things each day. But what, what comes to your mind that gives that drive to get up and tackle the next day? Let's face it, being an entrepreneur is no cakewalk. It can be a very difficult task in its own right. So what is it for you, Pamela, that motivates you when you get up each and every day?

Pamela Gregory:
It certainly can. I get very excited to start the day. I'm one of these people that do jump out of bed and head right for the coffee pot (laughs). Yes I still drink coffee. It's my friend, but I only have one cup a day, so ... but I start with a cup of coffee and I love to journal. And I just get my day, I spend some one-on-one time and spend my day focusing on, you know, where do I want to go that day depending on what kind of appointments I have. Because every day is different. You know, being an entrepreneur and setting my own schedule, every day is different. And because I have a lot of international clients, I, my schedule's bizarre. I work a lot of different hours. But in the morning it's all about focusing on, you know, getting my day started off right and eating healthy breakfast and that kind of thing. The hot lemon and water and, you know, that kind of thing. So I'm, but I do, I do, I take some quiet time alone myself and get centered first and set the intention for the day. And you set the intention it sets into motion the kind of day you're going to have for the most part.

Brian Kelly:
Fantastic. And you know it is. It's, it's kind of, being an entrepreneur you have to be cut from a different cloth, I think. And some, some people can be, can crossover even if they're not inherently built to be an entrepreneur. Many have successfully done that, but it's, either way it's a struggle. It's a nonstop, constant struggle. And the interesting thing is most entrepreneurs that's what they love about it, is that there, no two days are the same and you have to really have your hustle on at all times in order to succeed, let alone stay above water. Right? And so you know, there is a lot, there are a lot of peaks and valleys when it comes to running a business, running life in general. And it really takes a different mindset to enable you to get above and continue to maintain that level of success. So for you Pamela specifically when it comes to maintaining that positive, productive and successful mindset that you have, what do you do on a regular basis to sustain that? Is there something that you go to for that aside from journaling, maybe, maybe at night, maybe books?

Pamela Gregory:
I love ... I'm constantly, I'm a big believer of showering the mind. I mean, everyday we have to shower our body, so we can stay clean and fresh, and we have to do the same thing with our minds. So I'm a big believer and, for sure, of books, audio programs. I live on YouTube and I'm driving, because I'm always downloading. We, we have so much negative influence in our life on a daily basis, and if we're not consciously choosing to take better stuff, to make a better choice and to what we're actually choosing to listen to and bring into my field. Because I'm going to be, everything that I bring into my field, I'm going to, it's going to affect me, and I'm going to affect everybody I come in contact with. So knowing all of this is, it's very important to ... actually, walk my talk. So I can practice it and teach other people that we've got to download important information and positive thinking into our brains, because if we don't that thought-if we don't have the right thought process-the thought is what starts everything into motion, in a healthy way or in a destructive way. And we really have to make those conscious decisions to do that. So.

Brian Kelly:
Fantastic. Yeah, it all begins with our thoughts. As many of us who have mastered the mindset, we get that completely. And the cool thing is everyone, I mean, everyone can learn and train themselves to a point where it's going to become automatic. Now look, look, take notes. Pamela is doing exactly what the successful do: Feeding herself with nothing but positive, proactive and good forward-looking information at all times. I was just, oh gosh, it reminds me just the other day, my wife was asked, "Hey, did you see this story on the news?" And I don't remember what the story was. And my wife didn't really answer. And she just says, "I don't ever watch the news. It's too negative." And I was so proud to hear her say it out loud. I knew that she didn't. Neither of us do. And that's one reason: because you know it's, it's a software saying. I'm a software engineer by trade is, you know, if you type in, if you put in bad data in your program, they call that garbage in, what, what comes out, garbage out. Same with what you're talking abou,t we're programming our mind with everything we listen, allow ourselves to ingest. That's really the choice. Right? We're allowing it to happen. No one's forcing it on us. If you're in someone else's, let's say, you're in someone else's house and the news comes on you want to watch it, get up and go in another room. You have the choice (laughs). Really simple.

Pamela Gregory:
One of the worse things we can ever do is watch the evening news. If you're in your hearing this download of information right before you're going to sleep of all the negative things that are happening, and it's not to be in denial of what's going on in the world. But, again it's, like, you choose when you allow it in. But every thought that comes into our mind, especially in the evening as we go to sleep-my tomorrow starts tonight-ok, so it's what I'm thinking about as I'm going to sleep. And so if I'm watching something negative, that's marinating in my mind like in a crock pot. I mean, I'm going to have the results of those thoughts and everything in the morning when I wake up, and that's why some mornings we wake up and we think, "Well why do I feel so crappy today?" Because what I was thinking about last night and if I go to bed the night before and have negative thoughts or worry in my mind which free of worry, I'm going to address it, but then I'm going to experience it the next day. So it's really important to, again, choose what you can let into your field.

Brian Kelly:
Your analogy is awesome. I mean, I'm thinking we could, you could coin that phrase, you know, "Crock Pot Success." I love that. It's sitting there stewing and marinating and keeping warm overnight, getting all the flavors mixed in.

Pamela Gregory:
Did I really cook this last night (laughs).

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. And "My tomorrow starts tonight." I love that. Oh just by the way, so everyone watching, I hope you're taking notes, because, look, (holds up written notes) I'm the director, host, everything, I'm taking notes. So there should be no excuse for you should there. Unless you're driving and you're listening to us on your phone not watching it, I hope, live. So fantastic. And we opened the show, right, talking about a lot about the importance of books. And I've noticed a common thread. Would you consider yourself, Pamela, to also be a book reader, an avid reader. You're nodding. That's good. Oh. Do you have a specific one you're reading right now that you particularly like or maybe do you have one in the past that really sticks out that's your favorite?

Pamela Gregory:
Well, the one that sticks out from the past that changed the whole paradigm of medicine as far as I'm concerned is the Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton. And I had the pleasure of meeting him about, it'll be almost 2 years ago, coming up already. And I told, I mean, he changed entire paradigm of medicine but also the course of my practice, because I was already teaching the importance of forgiveness. And people think that is a spiritual thing or a religious thing but it's really ... it's a very powerful healing modality in and of itself. And I can get into how I came across that later. But what Bruce has worked at is it brought in the science psycho-, neuro-immunology-immunology and how the mind, emotions affect the immune system. So when I talk about letting go of anger and blame and shame and guilt and all of these things that we feel we need to forgive others or to forgive ourselves, which is really all forgiveness is really self-forgiveness for it's all about the story I make up about what happened. But that's depending on how much time we have in the show, we can get more into that, but Bruce's work is just amazing. So Biology Belief, because what he taught is we are not a victim of our heredity, our genes. He brought the field of epigenetics out into the awareness of the world. I mean, he was the one that really coined that. And he's been cloning stem cells since the 70s and found that the cell isn't driving your change, its environment. And so we create our inner environment by our experience and our environment. So Biology Belief, by all means, it's a little dry in the beginning, if you watch the video of the lecture on YouTube or whatever the first, it's like watching paint dry but (laughs), no, but, it's brilliant. I mean, once you get beyond the first half and understand the importance of it. So Biology Belief, and a new one that I just came across, a friend recommended to me, is called Fearvana. And I tried to write the author's name down, but it's a little complicated so I didn't take note of it. But Fearvana is very, is awesome, because fear is such a big part of our lives; we're programmed for fear, I mean, unfortunately it seems that way anyway. And it helps you look at fear in a light that you embrace and instead of running from it, it's something you can turn it around, and as with anything, like forgiveness too, how you look at something and changes ... if you change how you look at something, it changes everything. So , give a new story to it, changes the forgiveness aspect and also fear. So Fearvana is great.

Brian Kelly:
Does sound like 2 very powerful books. And, even if the beginning of one is like watching paint dry ...

Pamela Gregory:
(laughs)

Brian Kelly:
If something is important, if something is important enough to you-I'm talking about the listeners not to you, Pamela-you know, to right the ship, then wouldn't you go through more and not just do it for entertainment purposes but just get through it because you know it's not important? It's like how many of us as little kids wanted to go to school? None of us. Well, very few. There are some that loved it. I wasn't one of those; I didn't hate it, hate it, but I didn't like going. I wouldn't go if I had the choice. Let's put it that way. And with, with things like these resources that Pamela is giving, I mean, Fearvana, what a cool title. I love that. Fear, my goodness, there's a whole, like, 5-hour show on that one by itself. Because fear is really ... we're talking at the subconscious level, that is the thing holding you, not Pamela, you the watcher, listener back.

Pamela Gregory:
(Inaudible) trust me.

Brian Kelly:
It is true. All humans that ... the cool thing is Pamela has the tools with which to right her own ship, to be aware of the fears cropping in and put her program in place that she's developed to help alleviate that so that she can move forward. It causes an inherent resistance in all of us, fear does. And it's really, truly, when the rubber meets the road-and you feel free to disagree, Pamela, on any of this-but it causes a resistance that keeps us from moving forward when we know it's the right thing. We just feel that discomfort coming, you know, because we're moving out of our comfort zone. That's really the signal of your subconscious saying, "It's time to move forward and not just stand still." But fear, huge. Go ahead.

Pamela Gregory:
I have a little thing about fear that when somebody has a decision to make, and they'll say, "If I do this ..." more often than not they'll try to take the safe way out. And years ago I learned from Carolyn Mace one of my favorite mentors that really started me on the path of this, and she said, "When you make a decision and take the safe way out," she goes, "You just signed on for a major lesson and, because, you're better throwing a dart at the map and saying, 'I'll move there versus I'm going to move here because it's a better salary and that has better benefits and all that. Even though I really don't want to go here I'm going to move here because of all the rational reasons we tell ourselves why we...' but it ends up hurting us in the long run, because we're, we're not taking our soul's guidance, we're taking our ego or the fear's guidance. But when it comes to making a decision what I recommend is ... it's like if we base that decision in fear, it's like planting a seed and toxic soil. So what's going to be the result of that fruit when we ... nothing good is going to come of it. And so at some point it's going to yield something that we're not going to be happier, healthier, at peace with. So I just wanted to interject that (laughs).

Brian Kelly:
I love that, I love it. Please.

Pamela Gregory:
Bring up any of this (gesturing), here, here, here.

Brian Kelly:
Please do. Because I find what you do very, very fascinating. I know so many people can be helped as a result. We were talking a little bit right before the show about a couple of personal things and I wish I had known you existed some time ago. Let's just put it that way. We'll cover that or we won't. It doesn't matter either way. But you have some fascinating experience and you have some fascinating talent and some amazing results that I want you to be able to tell everyone. In fact, let's, you know, we talked about mind body business. Real quick, let's just shift into body. It's very obvious to me that you are very physically fit. And so kudos to you. It's not a simple thing to keep going, if you are not already in the habit, in discipline, such as Pamela. And so I kind of know the answer to this question, but I'd like for you to be able to say in your own words: How important is physical fitness to you, your business and in your personal life?

Pamela Gregory:
Oh it's so important. My background got started off in the health and fitness arena. So I've been at it since I was about 18 years old and even before that growing up, cheerleading, climbing trees and everything else. So I've been physically fit my whole life. And it's very important, because if you don't take care of your body, all the other things you want to do in life it's not going to support you in that. So staying physically fit is really critical. But what I found about 15 years ago after I've been pretty, strictly all health and diet and exercise and all of that, that there was a component missing. And when my kids were little, I had 3 kids in 5 years, and the Internet was just getting up and running, and I was always looking for ways to help people help themselves. And so I ended up becoming a big research nut. And one thing would lead to another, and I found the importance of EFT, energy medicine and ways to help people heal that there's not a negative side effect-it either works or it doesn't-but there's no negative side effects, like so many medications. So that was one aspect of it, but really what got me on the whole forgiveness aspect was a conference call that I was on with some cancer doctors out of a facility in North Carolina, and they had done a study and found that everybody at their facility who had a chronic or terminal condition had a major unresolved forgiveness issue. And that when some of them were able to resolve it they had a miraculous healing that couldn't be attributed to anything else. And when I got off the phone and I thought you know love and forgiveness is at the foundation of practically every religious and spiritual practice. And though we all know we should be more loving and forgiving, how many of us actually apply that on a regular basis? And so I started doing more research in that arena, and I found articles from John Hopkins and Mayo and a lot of western hospitals that were touting the importance of forgiveness and how that contributed to heart disease and strokes and blood pressure and cancer too. And that's how I ended up at the cancer clinic in Tampa, Florida, was ... I met Dr. Garcia at a forgiveness event or workshop that we were attending. And he was one of the first medical doctors I've come across that knew the importance of resolving anger, because he said, "If something's eating away at you what does that sound like?" And Bruce Lipton's work-I know I'm kind of going all over the place with this here-but Bruce Lipton's work supports that in saying that we just had ... there's not one cancer gene. We have to create an environment that supports cancer. There's only seven diseases that actually have one gene that dictates you can get the disease. And so so much of this is about you know the mindset and so emotional fitness is to me has trumped the physical fitness, because if we don't get our heads straight nothing else is going to flow. So

Brian Kelly:
Man, this is phenomenal, because it falls right in line with everything I've taught from stage and everywhere else is, it starts up here (pointing to his head). That's the bottom line is it starts up here. And I can't wait to hear more about what you said. You said that you met a cancer doctor, and you talked to him and you told me off camera that, that seems to be now one of your focuses. And I think that's phenomenal. And if you don't mind would you go through a little bit of your experience working with cancer patients. How long does it? What are the sessions like, and then what is your success rate? And I don't know, just tell us about that, because the little you told me right before camera just really piqued my interest. And if it piqued mine I'm almost certain it will pique everyone who's watching interest. Because most every one of us either have a family member that's either had cancer, maybe themselves have had it, or they know someone who has, close to them. And so it's a huge, huge topic. If you wouldn't mind sharing with everyone how does that whole thing work and what have your results been?

Pamela Gregory:
Well, my experience at the cancer clinic was one of the best experiences of my life, because ... it was just such a fertile environment to work one-on-one back-to-back with patients, and see consistencies in stories and situations that people experience and everything from their past. And almost everything comes from my childhood at some level. So between that and you know my own experience growing up and things that happened in my life I just blended this whole what I call the Forgiveness-Healing Process is what came out of it. And, basically ... to summarize it is I would get to the root cause of the patients, like one of the biggest events in their life. I called this Game-Changing Event. And so when something happens, somebody dies or leaves or you get hit or something that breaks your view of, or changes your view of the world, from this is a loving, safe place to, all of a sudden, oh my gosh, somebody could die, or somebody is going to hurt me. And all of a sudden, you don't feel loved or safe anymore. And when we start seeing the world through this eye, through the eyes of fear, worry, stress, I'm not good enough, if I'm not doing a good job at school or whatever, if my parents are on my case. I want to please them. At some level subconsciously, it's, like, I'm not safe, they're not going to take care of me. So our need is so great. And so that's what I would end up doing at the clinic is I would get to do this Game-Changing Event. And that is where everything is rooted in and uproot that (inaudible) versus what's going on. Oh I'm going through a divorce or somebody died and that's really stressful and they show up with cancer. But the cancer didn't start 2 years ago. Most doctors will tell you that, that tumor has been in there for 10 years, even before they'll find it. But again it's creating the environment in our inner world that supports cancer or fibromyalgia or ... to me I don't care what label they get a disease, whether it's addiction or hypertension. If we're not at ease with life, and that's what I would do at the clinic is get to the root cause of their disease and go about clearing that and having them see the world through new eyes based on love and truth, which is a heart-based approach versus the mind, the ego-approach, which is I'm not good enough. I'll never be good enough. I'll never be loved. I'm not lovable and all of these other situations that come into it.

Brian Kelly:
Fantastic. And what have your results been, you were sharing them with me before we got on camera? This is what will really get people excited.

Pamela Gregory:
I've had people, and again, what we did the cancer-it was an alternative cancer clinic, even though it was run by Dr. Garcia, a medical doctor, we only did life-enhancing and life-supported treatments. So no chemo, radiation or surgery. And so he did everything to boost the immune system: hyperbaric oxygen treatments and all of that. And so my job is, and he's like, basically, resolve their anger. He's, like, there is your office; resolve their anger and whatever is going on with them. And my first week at the clinic is my last patient, first week there, and I, I was always looking for things that were making ... there were big charges of anger in their life. And what I found was as-I always said anger is like arsenic in the body-but what I found is even more toxic than arsenic is humiliation, shame, blame and guilt. And so because I was able to identify that when I, literally, my first session, because, again, time is of the essence, it was an outpatient facility and I would see the patients once a week for anywhere from 6 to 12 weeks that they were there. And so I only had 6 to 12 hours to help these patients shift their disease, which is a contributing factor in my opinion, Dr. Garcia's opinion and many other medical professionals. And again, this is all coming from my world. This is my view. This is, a lot of people may not agree with me and that's ok, but this is what I found. This worked from myself and my clients and patients that I've worked with. But we, that would show up in their blood. When they would have a shift, we would get their blood work back and their numbers would come way down, their cancer markers numbers would come down within days. And we, I experienced that again and again. So sometimes this was in a clinical setting. So, we don't know what brought the numbers down. And then sometimes it was in my private practice setting, as well. So a lot of them were still doing chemo and I would get, I would just address the emotional and psycho-, spiritual causes of their disease.

Brian Kelly:
This makes total sense to me. I think it was Deepak Chopra, that's easy for me to say, said that our thoughts don't just impact our mind. In fact our entire bodies are wired, every cell and every thought permeates your very being, every cell of your body. And so when you're going through anger, guilt, those negative emotions you're not just impacting your emotional state, you're also affecting your physical state, as well, which is really remarkable to understand and learn. And it sounds like the work you're doing is doing that, is reversing that, taking that anger, the stress and things that are causing distress in the body to then go away. And the cool thing is you're able to see the markers change so quickly. You know, it's almost like you have a volume knob, and you're able to go turn that cancer volume down by treating your clients. So thank you for doing what you do. And for those watching and listening, let's share this show, not for me but for Pamela. Share the show wide and far so that more people are put in front of this amazing woman that might need her help, because this needs to get shared, and ... on a personal note, I lost my mom to breast cancer. She fought for 16 years, I mean, and it was an aggressive cancer. She was a fighter. And I so, it would have been really wonderful to have put you in front of her, Pamela, to see what amazing things would have resulted from that. But you know what, we're here now, and I'm not going to look back on things like that. I'm going to stay in the positive myself, but I just, I want for you watching and listening, if you're listening on a podcast share the podcast, tell others to subscribe. If you're watching this live share it right now if you wouldn't mind. If you are watching this recorded share it whatever you're watching it on find that share button and get this out, because more people need to learn that there is ... chemo, chemo is a poison. I watched my mom. I've watched friends, I watched family members. Good grief. I mean women losing their hair, I mean, it doesn't matter for man or woman. But it's quite dramatic when your mom is now bald. Right? It's just, it's a poison to get rid of a disease, and it really could be alleviated potentially through Pamela and her mindset approach to relieving stress and all the negative emotions that are causing the very condition that they're experiencing. Did I say anything out of whack there?

Pamela Gregory:
That was perfect. Thank you. I mean it. And again it's something I'm very passionate about, because I do see people shift and sometimes in one session. And I'll have breakthrough sessions and people will just, you know, and again to do work that you love, and it touches my heart to know that you can impact somebody's life like that. And basically, I had more people tell me, "Thank you for saving my life." I mean, how do you, you know, it's just, like, it's what I'm here to do it. I mean, I'm just blessed that I just followed the bouncing ball (laughs) and evolved into what it is and it helps people.

Brian Kelly:
So my gosh what a gratifying experience that must be over and over. Oh my goodness, man. I mean, so here's the thing. You know, Pamela has a business to do this. And for her to operate she ... and this is a business concept. For her, for her to operate and scale, because what I'd love to see happen for Pamela is the scale bigger and farther and to do that, it requires, it requires capital to come in so that she can build systems and hire more people and do that. So let's support her in this and help her to scale this and help save the lives of our loved ones, of our friends, to have that impact. It's so cool how you described that shift, because we were talking before we came on, I think it was before, about NLP, Neuro Linguistic Programming, which also is a mindset tool it's a phenomenal tool. And I've gotten to take students from stage through processes, and you, literally, like you said, you see the shift happen. And the gratification that it gives me and, like, I'm sure with you even more, because you're saving a life, but the gratification that you had some positive effect on someone's life is immeasurable, immeasurable.

Pamela Gregory:
And again, Brian, it's so important that everybody understands that I don't, everybody is their own healer. I just ... it's just something that I put together and it's evolved and it's just something that I've perfected over time. And each session I do I just bring something else in or learn something and it applies to something else. But everybody, people have to be willing to change. And I do a lot of quit smoking, addictions, that kind of thing. And people are like, "Can you help my son quit smoking?" "Well, sure. Does he want to quit?" "Well, no" (laughs). "Then, I can't do anything." You know. So, people that are ready and willing and it's about applying the work. Because a lot of people say, "Oh yeah, I've read 50 books on that' I've gone to this conference and whatever." And it's like, "Well, do you apply what you learn or what you read? Because if you don't apply it just in one ear and out the other." And you know our natural state is loving, compassionate, kind, gentle, all of this. And we learned anger. We learned, we learned stress, all of that. And so we can go back to that; we can unlearn that, and that'll be our natural state. You know what's normal is drug addicted, anxious, worried, you know, everybody has anxiety now. And why is because we're not here. We can't be anxious. Right now, everything's ok, in this moment, you know, and so there's so many little tools about being here now. I would text the patients to see, like, "Where are you?" It's like not to tell me that they're at the grocery store, but it's just like to be present, you know. And because, again, when you get that diagnosis, it's like, ok, well, "I'm cancer free now but is it going to come back?" Is there ever any peace for cancer patients? And while I'm good right now but in the back of their mind, "Am I going to stay good?" You know. And it's that fear, it's that belief-and I go back to Bruce Lipton's work that is so critical: that your belief is everything; you cannot create anything without a belief contributing to it, whether we think we're doing or not. It's, it's a subconscious belief, and if we don't uproot that and start inputting the positive ways of viewing the world and ourselves and life, you know, it's it's going to win.

Brian Kelly:
Love it. Love it. And I wanted to give a shout out to a couple people that are watching life. Thank you so much for John Barrasso and Orrin "Checkmate" Hudson for sharing this video. Please, more of you do the same during the live, after the live, through all the different platforms that this show is on. It's on many, including it will also go up on Roku. For those of you that don't know what that is, it's an on-demand television service and also Amazon Fire TV. This is definitely going out sooner than others, because the word needs to be ... if you're ok with that Pamela, the added exposure to get this word out, because this is hitting me really close to the heart. And I just can't imagine the happiness that would result from you impacting others' lives and their families. It's not just one person that you're impacted. And you know that, I know you know that. Anyone and everyone that loves that individual or are friends with that individual, they are directly impacted by what you have helped them do. And yes, please, go to Pamela only if you're ready and willing, and you're ready. And just, many will say, "Yes, I'm ready." But you really need to be ready. So don't waste your time is what I'm trying to say, because, and get to that point as fast as you can though. Please do. Become ready to get past whatever is holding you back. You mentioned so many things you do, Pamela. You had a point; go ahead.

Pamela Gregory:
Yes. And so I to, people say, "Oh, forgiveness is so hard or letting go of the stress is so hard." And what I tell them, "I've lived life both ways. I, I didn't like, maybe I woke up like this when I was born. But, you know, I mean through years of life, and a lot of what changed my, my game-changing event was when my brother died and I was 11 and he was 20 when he died suddenly of an aneurysm. And so what I decided is it's, it's not safe to love, because I loved you. Tomorrow you can be gone too. And so I'll love you a little bit but not too much. And so what I realized in that instead of protecting myself from getting hurt I was robbing myself of the love that I came here to do and be." And so when we start seeing where these events come from and how to, to turn them around and use the things that have happened to us in our past to be the launching pad to not only heal ourselves and heal others, but again there was a lot of anger and blame: the doctors and different things that went out the time. I was angry at my brother for dying and ruining my perfect family, because everything, life was good and then all of a sudden, you know, my family was devastated. So there was a lot of anger in there that I didn't realize I had until one day my sister played a Tim McGraw song and it was called Angry All The Time. And she just goes, "This reminds me of you." And this is, like, 2001 or whatever. And I'm like, "Oh my God, really?" And that's when I started getting into this work. And, you know, so I've lived like both ways. I don't pretend, you know, and again we heal ourselves and then we show other people the way. And so I've walked my talk, and I'm still learning growing and evolving. But it has really helped, like I said I'm applying what has worked for me and worked with thousands of other people that, it's not hard to forgive, it's harder not to, I mean, it's harder to be angry your whole life, and to carry that with you.

Brian Kelly:
So that's one of the things I truly love about you, Pamela, is your integrity is, it just eases off of the screen. Because everything you just said, that you've been through this. So many, I've seen so many entrepreneurs that are out there just for a fast buck and they'll say, you know, they'll give you advice. And then I'll ask them, "Oh, how has that worked for you?" "Oh, I don't actually do it myself. I just think it's good for you to do it." Like wait, what? That's not congruent. Next. And obviously what you do there's, I can't imagine it would be anything but congruent and integrity-based. And so I appreciate the fact that you said that. Because a lot of people will look at a successful person like you, like me, and think "Oh, they've got it easy. They're on Easy Street, they're successful. Nothing comes difficult to them, they've never had hardships." Right? The cool thing is because you had the very hardships that you did you're able to help those people, because you're so aware of what that did to you in the past. So it's amazing. It makes it even better.

Pamela Gregory:
Right. Well, and I see again how that evolved into the work that I do today. So the decision I made to put the wall around my heart is, I help my patients and clients see what decision did you make? And it can come down to one comment. You know, one comment a parent made or a coach made and they believe that, "You'll never be as successful as your sister." The young man literally worked himself into a grave, because he had to prove he was a success with, with the salary, the title and all of that. And so we don't know why we're doing things, the way, why we're actually, actually navigating the world the way that we are is because if we don't uproot that one belief-that I'll never be as successful as my sister-then I'm going to be, you know, working myself into the grave until you realize I need to undo that. That's, that's not what I'm here to do is to prove to my mother that I can be. This was a client of mine, but, you know, I mean, and he became cancer free with us and all of that. But again it's just one comment, Brian, is what I found, it could be one statement a parent's made. And that's what's so scary being a parent. I mean, I've made those statements. So I've gone in and cleaned all that up with my kids or as much as I'm aware or they've let me be aware of (laughs). But, again, it's a phenomenal process and it's very, it's their own effect. Because it's heart-based not the mind-based. It's a very different approach because people, we start digging around the subconscious mind and we're gonna be there for a couple hundred years and die way before (inaudible).

Brian Kelly:
It's amazing how powerful words can be and on both, in a positive light and a negative light. And, I mean, there's times we've all done it, where you say something and you know that moment, like, "Oh, my goodness. I shouldn't have said that. That was really bad. That's going to hurt and might not go away for a while." But the thing is it's a serious thing. We need to be mindful of not just what we say but how we say it, because ... so it's very true. And it's not to put anybody into this spiral of guilt worrying about, "Am I saying it right?" You know, it's just, it's a process. It takes time for some to change their thought patterns so that they're not always shouting negative things at their, their spouse, their siblings, their significant others, their family members. And, you know, it's a process and Pamela can help you with that. I can tell, many of the things you have discussed are very similar to the work I've been involved with NLP, not nearly to the extent that you have, for sure. Limiting beliefs. That's a big one. Getting rid of negative emotions, another big one. Those are where we start. And that's the perfect place, because that's where everything stems from. As you know, I'm preaching to the choir, big time here. Speaking of fear. I'm just curious. I wonder if, this will be interesting to find out, we all have fears. Still to this day I have fears, even though, you know ,I have the tools to eradicate them, as you do. What would you say is your greatest fear and then how do you go about managing that fear?

Pamela Gregory:
My greatest fear is not living up to my full potential.

Brian Kelly:
Wow.

Pamela Gregory:
And, you know, I kind of used the, I've been in my life, "What am I going to regret not having done versus ..." They say most people don't regret what they've done but what they didn't do. And so that's what really spurs me on. And because I know, I've been playing small for way too long. And, you know, I've been wanting to fly under the radar for my own reasons (laughs). But I know it's time to come out of the, come out of the shadows, and to share this on a bigger scale. You know, I'm ready now. My kids are grown, and now I've got the time to do this.

Brian Kelly:
You are ready. And on that note, once again, I will reach out to our audience and say please share this video right now. No matter if you're watching it live or recorded or if you're listening on podcast, share your resource that you're listening to and watching this on. Whether, it doesn't matter where you are, if you're in a car, pull over and share it before you forget, because it's that important to get the word out for this amazing woman what she does for others who are, you know, not only for the people themselves that are suffering but their families that surround them. Oftentimes it's the family members that are going through it harder than the actual patient who is the one physically going through the horrible condition that they're in. My goodness, it happens every time, we're only 5 minutes away from an hour. So for everyone watching, listening, Pamela, we're just gonna go on and make it a marathon and go maybe 10 more hours, if that's ok. I'm just kidding.

Pamela Gregory:
That's no problem (laughs) (inaudible).

Brian Kelly:
But on a serious note, there is one more defining question that I would like to ask you, Pamela. And it's something I've asked every guest before you came on, the same exact question. And it may take a moment to think about the answer. It may come to you instantly. But what I want to do is get to that but before we do, real quick, all the people that are on watching, waiting, how do I win that vacation? Well, we're going to reveal how to do that right now. So everyone watching live, whether it's Facebook, Periscope, YouTube, Twitch, the list goes on; there's 9 platforms simultaneously. Here is how you enter to win. You either go to the URL, the website TheMINDBODYBUSINESSShow.com/vacation, that's TheMINDBODYBUSINESSShow.com/vacation, and just fill out your information there. Or if it's easier for you, and you don't want to move away from this show at the moment, you can pull out your smartphone and text the word PEAK. That's P-E-A-K, to the number (661) 535-1624. Again, that's PEAK, P-E-A-K, to 6-6-1-5-3-5-1-6-2-4. You have my permission to do that right now (laughs). And that is sponsored, once again, by the wonderful Jason and Ronda at PowerTexting.com, an amazing service. In fact, in either case, if you go to the website or you text directly, it is using PowerTexting.com's amazing technology to make this happen for you. And they are the ones, also, providing this amazing, amazing trip of a 5-night stay at a 5-star resort in Mexico. It is phenomenal. Oh and on that note, before we get into this, this wonderful question, a little birdie told me that, Pamela, you might have something for the viewers, as well. So if you wouldn't mind letting them know what that's all about, I'll let you lead that and just go ahead and take it away.

Pamela Gregory:
But I would love to offer anybody who's watching or is interested to have a complimentary 30-minute session with me. So the best way to set that up is to e-mail me at [email protected] and say that you'd like to claim your free consultation and let me know how to get in touch with you and we will set it up.

Brian Kelly:
Wow. Wow. And what type of person would benefit most from this talk with, someone that is going through an issue or someone as a family member that's going through it, both?

Pamela Gregory:
Most people are going through, and as far as I'm concerned everybody, in the world, and that's why we need to be compassionate with everyone, because we're all going through something in some area of our life all the time. And some people are going through harder, you know, than others. But, you know, we all could use somebody who has a way out that can make the way a little bit easier, and that's what facilitators or coaches do. But, I mean, people who are going through grief, somebody that's I worked a lot with those who attempt at suicide in the family. There's a lot of guilt over that. And so, again, when we come from a place of love and understanding and honoring the person, it just takes a different charge. Again, when we see the world through eyes of love, love is what we see. And I really lead with that. And the more we can do that, you know, the faster we heal. So anybody, people are going through a lot of things right now. Breakups are huge right now. I mean there's a lot of breakups going on. So.

Brian Kelly:
It's true.

Pamela Gregory:
And, you know, you cannot take a pill to heal a broken heart, you know. And all these medications that people are taking, you know, it's, you're only treating symptoms. And, I mean, we didn't get into any of that, but we're treating symptoms versus causes. And so, you know, if you want to heal from a broken heart, let me know. I'll help you out.

Brian Kelly:
Perfect. Please do reach out to her. And, again, we're almost at the end, but hit that share button. Keep it going, keep it coming. Thank you for everyone, with all the loves likes and shares throughout the show. And now to get back to that defining question. And so to kind of ease any thoughts that might be going through your head right now, Pamela, about, "Oh my gosh, what is this secret question he's gonna ask me?" To ease that, I want to let you know that the only correct answer to this question is yours. In other words, there is no such thing as a wrong answer, because it is unique to every individual. And to date, I just know it's going to happen, but up till now, no two people have answered this the same way on my show. It's pretty cool. Are you ready?

Pamela Gregory:
Yes.

Brian Kelly:
All right. Pamela Gregory, how do you define success?

Pamela Gregory:
Oh. I love that. Success is being happy and at peace with yourself and knowing you're being the best version of yourself as you can possibly be today. So that's what I aspire to, and to me success is not a bank account. It's being at peace with who and what I mean in the world and showing up as fully and powerfully as I can.

Brian Kelly:
I love that. And once again, true to form, no one else has answered it that way. And I love that: Happy and being at peace with myself. That is Pamela Gregory's definition of success. It's a beautiful definition. It's hers. You know, there's no judgment of good or bad. There is no such thing as a bad definition success. And what I love that you added to that is it's not about a bank account. And that's the one common thing I did find about every entrepreneur that's been on this show as my guest, not one of them, not one of them had their primary reason as being money related. You know, it's when I get my first two mil or when I get my first airplane; none of that, none of that, that's never happened. Some mentioned it in passing at the end. And the only reason they do it is because when they make more money they're able to serve more people and help more people, which was their number 1 reason for success. So it's just amazing. I love asking that question.

Pamela Gregory:
Great question. Great question.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. And I'm going to compile a book of all the questions, all the answers, and so give you all credit for that, and I'll get your permission ahead of time. So you can see what I wrote, make sure it's congruent with what you said. We'll make sure that, and that's just how we roll here. Integrity based. So to contact Pamela, it's [email protected]. Not too difficult. Go ahead and do that (laughs)or you can go to her website, which is PamelaGregory.com and I'm sure there's a contact link there. I'm looking myself (looking to the side). Yes there is, Contact Us. You can do it right through her website. But, please, please, please, once again, share this show, and let's get the word out. And not just share it, tag Pamela Gregory in your shares, friend her on Facebook, so you can do that-get ready for a lot of friend requests, Pamela. And that's good. You are ready, and we're ready to help you to expand this, really far and wide, and help you scale this to the point where, let's let's just put it out there, let's eradicate cancer. Let's eradicate stress and disease. And, you know, again, show up if you are willing and ready for help. Take her up on her offer. Take her up on her offer. You know, e-mail her, connect with her, and have that have that call. How much does it cost, Pamela? (Holds up his fingers in shape of zero.)

Pamela Gregory:
Zero (inaudible).

Brian Kelly:
And you can already tell, look at this woman, and if you're listening, you can hear it, that there's no hard sell on the end of this. She's just going to ascertain if you are at a point where there might be an opportunity to help. Am I right to say that Pamela?

Pamela Gregory:
Absolutely. Absolutely. People that just shift in that consultation. I mean, you know, obviously so this isn't to sell or anything. It's just to point them in the right direction. And, you know, if it helps, it helps. So, we go from there.

Brian Kelly:
Heart centered. Changing lives, literally, and lives of those around that person, their family, their outreach. I so appreciate you, Pamela, for being on. My goodness, this has been amazing. One more time, share this, please. For those of you watching and listening, let's help Pamela to really scale this thing up and help those who are dealing with stress-related diseases and disorders. So Pamela thank you once again. Thank you all for coming on and watching live and commenting. I saw a lot of comments coming in, likes and loves and some shares. Thank you so much. I kind of hate to bring it to an end, but Pamela we must do it out of respect for everyone's time and yours.

Pamela Gregory:
Thank you Brian. Thank you everyone who's watching.

Brian Kelly:
Absolutely. And that is it. We will see you all again next week on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. For now, I am Brian Kelly on behalf of Pamela Gregory, the magnificent Pamela Gregory. Please, please share this show one last time and we'll talk to you again on the next show. Be blessed. Bye bye for now.

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Pamela Gregory

Emotional Fitness Specialist, Pamela Gregory, began her career in the health and wellness industry over 30 years ago where she worked as a fitness trainer and nutritional consultant. In 2003, her focus shifted to emotional fitness and the healing impact forgiveness has on one's health. By blending the science of psychoneuroimmunology, (the study of how the mind and emotions affect the immune system), and the spiritual practice of forgiveness, she developed a unique, proprietary protocol called the Forgiveness Healing Process™. Her intensive work with cancer patients at Utopia Wellness in Tampa, FL helped Pamela fine-tune her protocol to quickly ascertain the unique ROOT CAUSE of each patient's unhealed trauma, allowing them to achieve results where other methods have failed. What Pamela has found is, close to 100% of all illnesses, regardless of what it is called, is a SYMPTOM of an underlying, unresolved emotional condition


Pamela's latest online course "K.O. Stress" addresses how to resolve stress, not just manage it. This $1 trillion industry is responsible for up to 90% of all doctor visits, 5 out of 6 leading causes of death, and has flown so far under the radar it's off the radar. Pamela thought it was about time to shine some light on what stress really is, share the path to resolve it, and bring it into mainstream conversation.

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Narrator :
So, here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us, who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back. Who are dedicated, determined, and driven. How do we finally break through and win? That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly, and this is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show.

Brian Kelly:
Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Super excited for tonight's show. We have not just one, not two, not three, but four, four amazing guest experts who are joining me tonight right here on this very stage.

Brian Kelly:
They are waiting in the wings at this moment. So let's get busy. Shall we? The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, that is a show about what I call the three pillars of success, and that came about as a result of my study of only successful people in the last decade or so. And these patterns kept bubbling to the top and those patterns being mine, which is mindset set. Each and every successful person, to a person, had a very powerful and flexible mindset. So I learned that and said," I need to implement that". Then body: body is about literally taking care of yourself. Through nutrition and through exercise, exercising on a regular basis, and again that was another pattern of very successful people and in business. These successful people had mastered the skill-sets that were necessary to create, maintain, and grow a thriving business. They're wide and varied. It's like marketing, sales, team-building, systematizing. It goes on and on and on, leadership. There's no one person, in my humble opinion, that could master every single one of these. All you have to do is master just one, and I actually mentioned one of those. It was in that list. I don't know if anyone caught that, but if you master just one of those skill sets then you're good to go. That skill set is leadership. When you've mastered the skill set of leadership, you can then delegate those skills off to people who have those skill sets. See where I'm going? Good. That's what successful people do; the ones that I studied, anyway, over the course of about 10 years. That's what this show's about. It's a show for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs. I got four guests waiting, and I'm not going to wait any longer. So, I think we should just bring them on. What do you think? Let's do it.

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Brian Kelly:
And there they all are. These amazing, beautiful guests on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. How are you all doing? Altogether, too. That was phenomenal, I love that. So real quick. All of you, I hope you don't mind for just a moment. I want to do some housekeeping? I wanted to mention to everyone watching here live. If you stay with us till the end, you can win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. All compliments of our friends at The big insider secrets dotcom. You see them flying by on the bottom of the screen right now. It's an amazing, amazing vacation stay. Stay until the end, and you'll learn how you can enter to win that wonderful prize. We also have this. If you're struggling with putting on a live show, and it's overwhelming and you want a lot of the processes done for you while still enabling you to put on a high-quality show. And connect with great people like the ones we have tonight, and to grow your business all at the same time, then head on over to carpet bomb marketing dotcom. Carpet bomb marketing, saturate the marketplace with your message. One of the key components that is contained in the carpet bomb marketing courses, and this is one that you'll learn how to absolutely master, is the very service we use to stream our live shows right here on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Over the course of the past, now it's over nine years, we have tried many of these, "TV studio solutions" for live streaming. I'll tell you right now, Stream Yard is the best of the best. It combines supreme ease of use along with unmatched functionality. So, go ahead. You can start streaming high-quality, professional live shows for free. Yes, I said it. For free, with Stream Yard right now. Visit this website, and do this after the show over. Take notes while the show is going. So write this down R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. Fantastic. Now let's get to the real fun, and the fun is these amazing people. Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. How are you all doing tonight? Thank you for being on this amazing show. Yes. So, what I'd like to do is open it up. Let the folks get to know you just a little bit now. Ok, guys. We're talking sixty seconds or less. All right. Just lay it low here, but we'll just go and order. I usually go ladies first, but let's just go around the circle. It's easier for me who's running the show. So. That's what's important. Right? So, let's start with Dylan Shinholser. Go ahead. Take it away. Give us a little brief background about you, what you do, and your business.

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. So like I said, my name is Dylan Shinhoser. I own a couple of different businesses. I'm owner of a company called, "Experience Events", which is event management. I'm also a director of business development at a virtual event, event ticketing, and virtual event platform called, "ViewStub". As well as a co-host of another show called, "Event Masters", where I just ramble all day, every day about how to produce better experiences. It's really all I know and love to do is events. That is my less than 60-second pitch about myself.

Brian Kelly:
That's a good one, too. I'll tell everybody I've spoken with you in person. We had a call some time ago, and this gentleman, Dylan, is made of integrity and great character. So, reach out to him if you need any assistance in any of the areas he talked about, or if you just want to say hi to a really great guy. Then get in contact with him, and at the end of the show, we'll go through that. Please. Somebody remind me if I forget how to contact each of you. Because that's very important to me. This is the reason I bring this show to the forefront. (It) is to bring people like you into the lives of those who may not know who you are yet, and even those that do, to experience even more of your brilliance, your experience, your knowledge, and your value. It's not about me. This is about you. Always, always. Every time. I have one guest, usually. I just feel like I'm in this big family right now. But let's keep moving. Julie Riley, amazing young woman. Take it away.

Julie Riley:
Yes. So, I am Julie Riley. I am the social media manager at StreamYard. The platform we're using right now. Prior to my time with StreamYard, I owned my own marketing agency. I've been in digital marketing since two thousand and seven. So the very, very early days of the start of it is when I jumped in(to) digital marketing, and I love just being able to help others succeed in their business.

Brian Kelly:
Fantastic, and I will also say that I have spoken with Julie in the past. Both through a typewritten chat form and verbally. I think it was Clubhouse first time, which was phenomenal. Yet another phenomenal person, incredible integrity, and character. And yes, you're going to notice there's a pattern about this with the remaining two. It's the same thing. Hopefully, we can get the last one to talk a little bit. That will be nice. I'm just having fun because we were having fun before the show started. The one smiling. The biggest down there with the green hood; not pointing anyone out or anything. Thank you, Julie, for coming on. Yes. These people, Julie and Christian specifically, I know Christians coming up here in second. They're non-stop. They don't stop working. It's evident because of the very software research we're using right now. It's of grand quality for a reason. It's because of people like Julian Christian who keep everything rolling smoothly on the back end. Dylan's there nodding his head emphatically because he gets it. It's a lot of work, and they're doing it masterfully and we appreciate you. All right. Enough of the favoritism here that felt like favoritism. Julie's our favorite. Timothy McNeely! My buddy, my friend from just a little north of where I reside. I believe. If I remember.

Timothy McNeely:
Central California, baby. Bakersfield. Yeah, my name is Tim McNeely. Today, so many dentists and driven entrepreneurs are just not sure if they're getting advice that really makes a difference for them. They may have a financial adviser who is giving them some advice on their investment portfolio, but they're not really sure that they're on the right track to really maximize their net worth outside of their business. That's what I help them do. Maximize your net worth so that you can keep taking care of the people you love, support the causes you care about, really make that difference in the world, and build an amazing life of significance. I love doing streaming because I get to talk to some of the best of the best out there and share the knowledge with the beautiful entrepreneurial community.

Brian Kelly:
I'll tell you something on a personal note as well. Literally, we talked earlier today, Tim and I, on a Zoom call. He just reached out to me and said, "let's catch up." I had him on the show some time ago as a single, solo guest, and he was phenomenal. We've just kind of maintained a relationship, a friendship ever since. He just wanted to reach out and say, "Hi" and "What's up? What do you want to talk about?" We just started talking about business and things. He gave me resources that will help me in my business, and hopefully, I reciprocated it somehow. I don't know if I did, but it is the people like Tim, like Julie, like Dylan, like Christian. That is the cloth that they are all cut from. They are here to help people. That's why I love entrepreneurs. I love all of you. I mean it. I do. I love you. You guys are amazing. I didn't even get a crack at a Christian on that one. Jeez, I mean... there we go. That's a little better, but I'm telling you, he's working on StreamYard our stuff right now as we're on the show. I mean, I'm.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm really trying not to, seriously.

Brian Kelly:
The founder Geige Vandentop. If you ever watch this, there's a message to you. Ease up on your people. Alright? Just having fun. Alright, Timothy, you're an amazing guy. Thank you for spending your valuable time and coming on here. As well as Dylan, Julie, and the ever so talkative one, Christian. I'm not going to attempt to say your last name. I'll let you take care of that one. Welcome to the show, Christian. Let's hear all about your brilliance.

Christian Karasiewicz:
Sure. Thanks a lot for having me. My name is Christian Kerasiewicz. I'm the content marketing manager at StreamYard. So, pretty much anything you see on our blog that we're going to soon be launching. I'm the mastermind behind that. So, I do that. In addition to that, I also host live stream reviews, a YouTube show. We also do on the StreamYard YouTube channel where we invite people on to talk about their live streams and help them work through some of their problems, some of their challenges that they might be having with getting community or building a show. Thanks a lot for having me. I appreciate it.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, my gosh. Thank you again, Christian, for your time and being here. I mean, he's literally building a blog while on a live show. I mean, that's a great thing. I'm not even kidding with this one. That is phenomenal. That is showing such dedication. So, it's more than that. It's passion. It's love. You know? What time is that where you are, Christian?

Christian Karasiewicz:
About 9 o'clock, or yeah... about 9 o'clock.

Brian Kelly:
(Nine o'clock) PM. Ladies and gentlemen, in case you're watching this recording. Yes. By the way, I'm going to be on twenty-five different platforms after this is over. So no pressure, but don't mess up. I'm just kidding. So, this is a phenomenal group of people, and I can't wait to dig in. Christian, just what you just said, what you do is right down the alley of what I was hoping to talk about tonight. It'll go organically, but I wanted to talk about... I mean, look at Julie, and look at Christian, and look at their images. Look at their video. It is gorgeous. Here, we'll start with a really gorgeous one first. Look at that. I mean. If there were nose hairs that weren't in place, we'd see them. That's phenomenal, and there is Julie. Wow. Very beautiful. Even more beautiful. I should just have her up like this all the time, and we can just talk in the background. Because, you know, maybe more people would come on. So, you guys have phenomenal camera setups, and here's one thing I always like to preach to those who are getting into the live streaming game. Does it take money? Yes, it does. It takes resources. It takes cameras, microphones, (a) computer, internet, good internet, fast internet, lighting, doesn't have to be fancy. What I always say though, is, do the best you can with the resources you currently have. OK, I wanted to start it off that way because what we're about to talk about with Julie and Christian is their cameras. They are top of the line. We're not talking a one-hundred or two-hundred-dollar webcam here. I like to let ladies go first. So, Julie, do you have a story when you first turned on your new camera versus when you had the webcam and what that looked like and felt like.

Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh, I turned that camera on, and it was immediately noticeable (the difference). I actually did a live on my personal Facebook page where I logged myself in as a second user into StreamYard. I had my Logitech camera that I had been using up as a camera and then had my new one. So, I could do back and forth and show everybody the difference between the two. What an upgrade that was. The Logitech served me great for years. It didn't stop me from going live, but that upgrade was immediately like, "oh, I can never go back down now".

Brian Kelly:
So, that so that is one thing. Let's say you're on the road, and I can imagine at some point both you and Christian, maybe, you'll be sent on the road to maybe support conventions and things that are on the road. Now, you want to stream live, what are you going to do then?

Julie Riley:
Well, you know, the great thing about the Sony is (that) it's a small camera. Tripods, portable ones, are small. I can take it with me. If all else fails, and I'm either on my phone or I'm on my little webcam or even my built in webcam, it's not going to stop me from going live. Is it going to be exactly what I want? No, but more than likely I'll have the Sony with me.

Brian Kelly:
Thank you for saying that. I mean, that spoke such volumes. I hope people are taking notes that are watching. Definitely take notes on this. Because, look, the show must go on. That's what I say, and this show tonight is the result of a guest who unfortunately was ill and could not make it on. So, I scrambled and found these four wonderful people to say, "I'll come on and do a panel with you." And that's it. The show must go on, and I'm going to either do it with people or I'll do it solo. It doesn't matter. Consistency is key, and we can talk more about that, too. I love how you're just talking about, Julie. Where, look, I don't care where I'm at. If I've got something and it's my time to go live, and I don't have my gear. I'm doing it.

Julie Riley:
Right.

Brian Kelly:
I love that commitment. So, thank you for that. For everyone listening, that's important. Yes, quality is important. Like I said, do the best you can with what resources you currently have. That includes, wherever you are. You may have a DSL camera that Julie paid five-hundred thousand dollars for. Oh, sorry, it wasnt that much.

Julie Riley:
Thank God it wasnt that much!

Brian Kelly:
What was the model of that again?

Julie Riley:
A6000.

Brian Kelly:
What does it run about?

Julie Riley:
It was about seven hundred.

Brian Kelly:
OK, not too bad. A little bit less than five-hundred thousand. Not much but yeah.

Julie Riley:
Yeah.

It's a phenomenal thing, and I love that that's your attitude toward commitment. I'll tell you. You have a similar attitude...anytime I go and ask for support through the back side of StreamYard community. I mean, like through messaging. When I say the backside, that's sounded weird. When I ask for support, you're always there. I mean, you don't sleep, and I appreciate that. So, keep not sleeping for everybody's sake. Christian, you do the same. So, Christian, what about you? When you made that initial change from whatever camera you had before to this unbelievably clear one year look you're working with right now. What did that feel like the moment you saw a difference?

Christian Karasiewicz:
So, it's very interesting actually. So, this is actually what I was using before. I've been using this for quite a number of years. This is a Logitech Brio. It does do 4K. I invested in this one and eventually came out, and the quality was fantastic. The only thing was, though. I wanted to scale. So this was great for traveling, for example. This is what I took around with me. Super portable. It's got the ability to put it on a tripod. Fantastic, but it did not allow me to scale, so I had to always take up another USB port and all that sort of thing. When I moved to the Sony, the Sony looked very good. I will say the one thing you have to do, though, is you need to go through the settings. There are a few adjustments you want to change. That's what's going to actually enhance your picture quality of it. It's a fantastic camera. It's a Sony 6400. Then, really, the other side to it is also the lens. So I'm using a Sigma lens. So, that I think is the real big difference. I mean you have the kit lenses it comes with. I did make the investment in the the additional lens, which I think that's actually what's contributing to why it looks so good. I will say from a quality standpoint, again, start with what you have. You know, the key things for live streaming. Audio is going to be your most important part. Then also, if you, for example, are using one of these webcams, make sure you have enough light. These things look great with a lot of light. When you don't have a lot of light, you're going to see pixelation. You're going to see distortion and things like that. So, turn it back to you.

Brian Kelly:
Especially with light, if you turn on the green screen feature, you really need to have good lighting then. That's the biggest time. I'm so glad to be liberated from that. Even though I loved it. This is actually a natural well behind me. I painted the entire studio. I actually occupy my daughter's former bedroom. I've been here for four or five years now, and I finally got rid of the cartoon drawings and the yellow paint. I'm a real boy now. I have a real studio. This is awesome.

Christian Karasiewicz:
That looks really good by the way. I was very surprised (by) your background because that looks like one of the standard backgrounds people would normally bring up during a live stream. One that has, you know, the gradient going around the outside. So, whoever did the painting on that fantastic job.

Brian Kelly:
Why, thank you very much. My wife did most of the work to be honest, but I feel like that helps with that. Yeah.

Timothy McNeely:
If you want that comparison between cameras. Right. Christine was just talking about the Logitech Brio. That's what I'm on, and you can see the massive quality difference between Kristen and Julie versus the webcam. So. Right. (A) huge step up.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, we'll point that out in glowing detail right now.

Christian Karasiewicz:
You're using a green screen. Right?

Timothy McNeely:
Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
Your sound, Christian, is smooth. I mean, you have a great radio voice. Having that microphone, I think will pivot to that too. Dylan, what are your thoughts on cameras? Yours looks actually really decent right now? You're on (a) green screen, correct?

Dylan Shinholser:
Correct. Yeah.

Brian Kelly:
It looks really clean. You've done a good job with all the lighting. It's almost like you've done this before, and you know what you're doing.

Dylan Shinholser:
I try. Yeah. So, I actually when I first started doing it, I started listening back on my phone. When this whole pandemic hit, I was using the one inside your laptop and realized very quickly (that) I'm on calls all day, live streaming shows and stuff. I was like, "I got to set my game up." So, I haven't made that leap yet to the DSLR, but I will. I'm on a Logitech, one of the models. I won't even lie because I'm not that tech-savvy. It was expensive for Logitech, so I bought it. I was like, "it's got to work." So, yeah. So, that's where I'm at. I agree heavily. I think it comes down to, because we get asked it and I know you guys get asked, it comes down to what you can afford at the moment. Then always trying to push the limits of production value. Right? My background was a wall. It was just like random yellow wall, and now I have a giant green screen wallpaper now. So, now, I can be wherever I want which is a concert. That's where I want to be, and that's where I'm going to be.

Brian Kelly:
You're the one on the stage, brother. Not the audience.

Dylan Shinholser:
No, I'm actually the guy behind the stage. I never want to be this. It's actually weird for me to be in front of people. I'm the guy behind the stage telling people to get on the stage.

Brian Kelly:
Pushing them forward. Well, you do a good job, Dylan. I wouldn't know any different. Maybe your calling is to step out from behind and be on front more often.

Dylan Shinholser:
We will see. Twenty twenty-one has a lot of stuff, and I've got a long way to go. I got super bored in twenty-twenty so I might as well talk.

Brian Kelly:
I've gotten to know you a little bit over time, and you've got a great personality. I think you need to shine in front of more people. That's my humble opinion.

Dylan Shinholser:
I appreciate that.

In the front, not behind the scenes. It's okay to be behind the scenes on occasion, but someone like you with your personality and your integrity, your character...get out there, buddy. It's a disservice if we don't get to see you. Let me put it that way.

That's what a mentor of mine said. He was like, "dude, you're actually being selfish by not talking more and getting it out." Because like I said at the beginning, I only want to help more people create better experiences and events. Make them flow better and make them more money as humanly possible. At the end of the day, I just want to travel the world with cool people and do cool things. I've learned a lot, and a lot of people need some of that experience. So, I got a stern talking to by one of my mentors. He was like, "dude..." I was like, "alright, it's alright. I promise." I started live streaming then had to get better cameras, better lights going on. It's crazy up here in my little command center of all these different lights, webcams, and monitors. Everything you need to do to pull these shows off.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I love it. Christian, go ahead.

Christian Karasiewicz:
So, I want to throw something in there real quick. We talked about various types of cameras. If you're just getting started, use that built-in laptop, the webcam. So then you can take it up a notch. You can go to the Logitech. The C922. That's about, I think, a 60 to 70 dollar webcam. So, don't overpay by the way. It's about 60 to 70 dollars. Get it from Logitec, probably. If you find an astronomical price on Amazon, move up to like the Brio, for example. If your budget allows it, that's about one hundred fifty dollar camera. Then move up to a DSLR. For example, Julie's got that, the Sony 6000. I would also say if you happen to have a smartphone, this can be used as a webcam. Essentially, if you think about it, this is a thousand dollar camera. Because you paid a thousand dollars for this device of sorts, and this will give you some phenomenal picture quality. If you already have a smartphone and you don't have to have the latest iPhone, it could be pretty much any iPhone and Android phone. You just need an app such as one called,"Camo." There's one called,"Erion." So, there are lots of apps out there. Don't think like, "hey, I have to now go drop a bunch of money." Look at the phones you have lying around. Those are going to be great ways to fix your picture quality.

Julie Riley:
I've been going live since 2015, and I only had this camera last year.

Brian Kelly:
That's it. You keep reinvesting. I had a good friend of mine who were business partners. He said, I'll never forget it,"sales drive service". When you're making money, you're able to invest. You're able to up your game, and I love that. So many great points. You can just set a phone on a tripod and your camera will look better than many people's webcams. For sure. One of the things that I would recommend, this isn't just a plug StreamYard, is to get at least get the free plan. Do they need any more than the free plan to be part of the community, Julie?

Julie Riley:
No. They can come to join the community even if they're just getting started into streaming. We do like everybody to have the free plan so they have an understanding, but we'll still let you in. Agree to the rules. That's the big thing. Yeah, come join the StreamYard community. It's really a "stream yard" community.

Brian Kelly:
It's a very valuable place because questions like what Christian just addressed are often asked (What do I need?). I'm just starting. I'm a newbie. I see that so much in there. What can you do to help with a camera or microphone or computer? You can go there if you have those questions and ask, and the community will fill in the blanks wonderfully well because they're a great bunch of people. Just like Tim down there who's gotten pushed to the side for a while. So, Tim, is this your first camera that you've been using for live streaming so far? Did you have one before it?

Timothy McNeely:
Yeah, right. I started with just an HD one. Right. Logitech and then jumped up to the Brio. Been happy with that so far. But, you know, it's interesting how the game keeps growing again. That's the thing, right? Just get started! Just do this. I started with just using zoom and recording those for my interviews, and then I realized (that) I need a better platform. I need a way to kind of do that live production. Now I'm doing Stream Yard and got intros. Just get started with whatever you've got and kind of build that proof of concept. You know, I recently just upgraded my lights because I bought the cheapest lights I could at first. I just wanted to do something, and done is better than not done a lot of times.

Brian Kelly:
I totally agree with everything you just said and like what Christian was saying. If you're going to put money into anything, make it the audio side of things first when you upgrade. I was fortunate. I started over nine years ago streaming live. This is a DSLR. Not a DSLR. Good grief, XLR microphone. It's old school. It's not even USB. So I plug it into a mixer board, and from there into my computer. I've used it for years. It's been just amazing. I've never had to do anything with my sound as a result. For you, there are great USB alternatives now. Oh my gosh, there are so many out there. Someone like Christian could probably point you in the right way. Someone like the StreamYard community could push you in the right way and tell you,"these are the ones". I have a connection with the guy who is a sound expert. I've never heard of this before. He has a studio that does 4D sound. I don't even know what that means. Four dementional?

Christian Karasiewicz:
Sweet.

I don't know what that means, audibly. He was telling me about speakers in the ceiling. I'm like, holy moly,. You don't need that obviously for a talk show like this, but think about the possibilities and have fun with it. The bottom line is, when you go on and go live. Enjoy yourself. I'm trying to do that a little bit with these fine people tonight. Thankfully, they're still here with me. I haven't upset them too great, especially Christian. I keep picking on him. Poor guy. I appreciate you all, and it's okay to have fun on your show. Would you guys agree with that? Is it okay to have a little bit of fun?

Julie Riley:
One hundred percent. If you're having fun, your audience is going to be having fun with you.

If you're not having fun... I don't believe in doing anything that I don't find fun. It's a life motto of mine. If I don't want to do it, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Like you said, Julie. If you're not having fun with it, then how in the world do you expect the viewers to want to have fun or engage or interact? It starts with you.

Brian Kelly:
Absolutely, absolutely. One of the things I wanted to pivot to is something I'm deeply interested in because the product that came up earlier when I did the quick ads spot. I like to solve the pain points that people are having in their live streaming experiences. I'm curious. I'll bet, Julie and Christian, you guys have seen and heard a lot about that. I actually had a team member of mine from my company put a poll up in the form of a meme, a graphic. What's the right word? I am having trouble with words these days. It's an infograph. That's it. Simple. I was a little bit shocked by the result, but I was just curious what you guys think. What are the biggest pain points you're seeing? (Either) that you're having individually. Tim, if you have that as well. Dylan as well. Dylan, you probably hear about a bunch of it as well. What are the pain points you are seeing come back over and over and over again? I'm having a horrible time trying to find another guest on my show if they're interview style, or the tech is just blowing my mind. Even though StreamYard is so simple. I'm having trouble with x, y, z. Let's just go around the horn. Dylan, if you don't mind, I put you on the spot. Can you think of any of those pain points that keep coming up over and over again?

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. The biggest thing I see is they underestimate what it does take. I totally agree. Why I promote StreamYard to our clients and everyone I possibly can is because of the ease of use. People go into it and think shows are just like setting up the webcam, and they can be. Setting up the webcam and just talking. Right? There's a lot of back end stuff to this. These shows and I'm learning that as doing my own now. I'm like, holy cow, I'm about to hire fifteen people because this is absurd. But, yeah. I think that's the biggest thing that I see is underestimating it, but also at the same time, they overcomplicate it. They have to think (that) they have to have all these bells and whistles and seventeen thousand cameras and two million dollar microphones. It goes back to our first point of "just do it". It doesn't need to be overcomplicated, but understand going into it, there is some work that takes and understand that you do have to respect what it takes to put these on. At the same time, don't overcomplicate it. It's funny how people work. They overestimate or underestimate it, but then heavily overcomplicate it at the same time. I think that's the biggest one I see.

Brian Kelly:
I'm so glad you brought that up. I've said this so many times, people don't realize what goes on behind the scenes before the show even comes on live for that episode. The amount of time and effort. If you want to do a live show that's of quality and represent yourself and your brand in a way that you want it to be represented professionally. It takes a good amount of work for every single show. That's why I automated nearly every process (that) I use now. It took time to get there, but you can use a team. You can get a team. Like you said, Dylan, to also help out. For me, it's all about quality, and more time is spent before the show by far than the show itself. After the show is over, another good deal of time is spent. That is in the minor edits, the repurposing, the marketing, and everything else that goes beyond. The live show is this tiny window of time, and it's the fun is part of it by the way. When you have everything automated, the rest is not "not fun" because you're not doing it. It's all automated, but definitely great. Thank you for that. Julie, what has been some of the big p.. sorry to wake you up there. What have been some of the big pain points? You are wide awake. I just starttled you. You've seen over and over, I bet you've seen a bunch of them.

Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh. So many, you know, especially because I'm approving all of the comments that are coming into the group. I think one of the huge ones is that the hesitation of people who believe that they have to have everything perfect. That they have to have all of the backdrops, the overlays, the banners, the super expensive microphone, and the super expensive camera. That they have it. The room behind them is messy. They haven't thought about turning to just a blank wall because they're like, "well, then I don't have a fancy studio set up." They get to this point where they're trying to create perfection, and perfection is a fairy tale. It doesn't exist. There is no such thing as perfection. There is, again, where Dylan said the overcomplicating it. They've got to really just slow down and go, "what do I need to get this process going?" What is the minimum to make it happen? From there, then I can then build on it, and build on it each week. Go, "okay, I got live. I got the first one out. I got the jitters out. I hate the way I sound." When I had my agency, I would tell my clients. They'd be like, "I can't stand the way I sound." I'm like, nobody likes the way (that) they sound. There's actually, and I say this all the time, there's a term for it that is a term for not liking the sound of your own voice. I tell people, you have to get over that fear. They're like,"I don't look good on camera, I don't know how to be on camera." The other thing I tell people is to set up a fake Facebook group with nobody else in it but you. Go live in there a bunch of times and just get those jitters out. Get that feeling of pressing the button and going live. Then invite your husband in, your sister, your mother, or whoever. Somebody so that you're talking to somebody. From there, build up each time. As we said with the cameras, again, you can you can slowly build. You can slowly add in the overlays. You can slowly add in the backgrounds.

Brian Kelly:
My goodness! I absolutely love it. I have my own Facebook group that I use just for that. Nothing more. I go in there, and I test things for StreamYard and other things in there. I go live in there because there's no substitute for going live. We've got more buttons to click, and things kind of change their arrangement just a little bit in the window. If you practiced it 20 times without going live, then you go live you're going to go, "what the heck just happened?" I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. That was perfect. Perfect advice. I love that. We've got a comment coming in or two or three. Yeah. Kelly, crucial. Kruschel. Sorry if I got that wrong.

Dylan Shinholser:
Kelly Kruschel. It's Kruschel. She said she's on my team. She's a friend. Hey, we've got a supporter.

Brian Kelly:
Love it. Love it. Then Fran Jesse, I know her. I'm getting ready to make my first video essentially input. Yeah. Reach out, Fran. We're friends. I will give you assistance in any way you want because this is the greatest this is the greatest avenue for media on the planet, in my humble opinion, for so many reasons. One is people get to see you. I love clubhouse. It's also phenomenal in different ways, but people get to see you. They get to interact with you. They can engage with you, and they get to see your essence. It doesn't cost you, the studio owner, studio time. If you do this in the old days when you have to go to a television studio and you want to do a show, it would cost you thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars just to use the studio. Let alone get the media time to put it up on a television station. We're living in wonderful times. It's the greatest time to be alive, in my humble opinion. I'm a tech geek. I'm not young anymore. I'm fifty six, but I can't wait for the rest of what my life has to hold. Yes. You're welcome, Fran. Any time. Wonderful. Wonderful. Alright. Where were we? I got all messed up and loving myself there. We're going to have fun. I'm being real. This is like... I don't know. I'm the most relaxed (that) I've been in a long time with everything that went on today. It was one of those weird, everything-going crazy days. I feel like I'm at home with you guys. That's why.

Dylan Shinholser:
It's been one of those years.

Brian Kelly:
Thank God that last one is over.

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, yeah. Sure.

Brian Kelly:
So, okay. Pain point. Let's go back around one more. Tim, what do you have?

Timothy McNeely:
Yeah. When I first started doing this, my whole goal was to get out there and to talk to the different experts in the different areas of the challenges that my my clients face. I started off as an interview show and just using Zoom to record the video. Then all of a sudden I had the video. Now I had to put an intro in. I had to put an exit in. I had to extract the audio so I could do the podcast. My team members and myself were spinning our wheels. Just trying to really kind of create a workflow around the creation of this content so we could get the message out and help people with their challenges. For me, all of a sudden, the revelation was (that) I can do this live. I can have people type in (and) ask comments as I'm doing the show. Not only that, from start to finish, I can produce the whole thing going live. Right? You go live. You can play an intro now. You can throw in little commercial breaks. You can throw in the outro, and then it's done. Download the audio. You throw it up, and now you've got your podcast. You don't have to upload video to YouTube and Facebook and LinkedIn. It's done for you now, automatically. So really my biggest pain point was just the production side of things and putting everything together so that I could keep talking to people and doing the fun part. Right? I don't want to get caught up in all the details of making this. I want to talk to people, learn, and share that knowledge. Really, a lot of the pain point, just using StreamYard has really been absolved because it's a turn-key easy to use platform.

Brian Kelly:
Amen to all of that brother. Here's the key for everyone that's ever going to do a live show or has done one. The most important part is that you show up and you be the talent. That means you need to be dedicated mentally toward what the task is at hand. If I have too many things going on, like production-wise, which I used to when I didn't automate things. That's in the back of my mind. Did I dot every "i"? Did I cross every "t"? What's going to screw up on this show? Versus showing up fully for my guest. Being there for them. Getting out of myself and my own business and being present for the other person, that's what I'm about. Lifting up the other people, that's what my show's about. It's important to me.

Timothy McNeely:
Actually, if I can touch on that talent piece, Brian? I think he brought something up so important for everyone listening to this. If you're doing any kind of a show where you're interviewing people, chances are (that) the person you're talking to (is) a little bit uncomfortable. Your job, as the talent, is to spend some time before the show really crafting what it's going to look like. What direction are you going to go in? You want to make that person you're talking to look like a star. The more you can rehearse with them and put them at ease, you're going to end up with a much, much better show. Because you've taken a little bit of time to make sure that (the) other person is going to shine just as bright as you do. So, take that time to work with your guests beforehand through interview guides, through little questionnaires. So that you can help prep them, to keep them on a thread, and you can really help them deliver their message. Most people are not trained professional speakers. They just aren't. I've hired some of the best speaking coaches to help me develop messages, stay on topic, and learn how to tell stories. People don't invest time, energy, and effort to do that. You can help them do that through a briefing before you start your live with them.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. That's why I was saying before, I do a thirty-minute preshow. All of us were on here for 30 minutes getting to know each other, making sure all the tech was good, doing some checkout. You were talking about people being nervous and stuff. That's why I'm riding Christian so hard with all these jokes and stuff because it broke his nervousness. You can see his sweating. I am so kidding. This guy's raw. He's a rock. He's awesome. He's a pro. I love this guy, man. I always pick on the quiet ones. I don't know why that is. Christian, man, you're bringing massive value. All kidding aside, you're very experienced. You're matched for what you do. You've said already so many amazing things. What about you, brother?

Christian Karasiewicz:
I'd say this. I think a couple of the pain points. I think one is people want to ask, "how do I get better at my live stream?" I think (that) the first thing is practice. To Julie's point, I think you mentioned having overlays, backgrounds, and all this other stuff. Look at it like this. You want to show your audience as well while you're helping them. You're doing this with them. You have everything at the same time, and you're trying to make everything perfect. Your audience is going to be like, "I'm not going to stick around this person because they've done such a good job already. I won't ever get to that point". They start having that self-doubt. The key thing is going to be practice. You don't have to have every single one of the overlays. Maybe start with the the intro or the thumbnail, and maybe you have an outro for example. (Those are) the first two things you do. As you build the show, then you can add segment graphics. You can add videos. So, you can scale it, but you don't have to have so much at one time because then it's just too overwhelming. That's point number one. Pain point number two is that people, for some reason, think that they're going to immediately be able to monetize their live stream. I say pain point because everybody's like, "oh, I bought all that equipment." Now, you've got to figure out how to pay for all that equipment, you know? If you're struggling already with your business and growing it, then you're not going to immediately monetize live stream. You have to have an audience. You know, you have to build that community. When you go live, they're tuning in because (of) the social platforms. They want to see that you're bringing viewers, they want to see engagement. So, point number two is monetizing your live stream. There are ways to do that, but don't always set out with monetization being number one. It could take a couple of years to monetize. So, get started. Build on it, then make those investments as your business is growing. Yes, mic drop. Yes.

Dylan Shinholser:
Do you have that mic? Just a mic drop? Because I might need to get one.

Brian Kelly:
It's actually super.

Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, super real.

Christian Karasiewicz:
That's pretty cool, actually.

Julie Riley:
I like that.

Brian Kelly:
It's actually part of a magic trick that you put in a paper bag. It's a long story, but I found one more affordable that would not break my keyboard because that's what it landed on. You didn't hear it. Oh, my gosh. Golden nuggets there, as usual, from Christian who I give a lot of hard time to. I'm going to stop because you're amazing dude, and I don't want to get mad at me. I want you to be my friend. So many great things. So, you said two years. I was like, wow. I was watching an interview. How many of you have heard of Lewis Howes? Former professional football player and turned incredible entrepreneur. He's all over the place. He was being interviewed, and the guy interviewing him asked him a question. He said, "so, Lewis, if someone came to you, and they were talking about the fact they wanted to start a podcast. Now, we're talking just the audio version. That's what a podcast really is for everyone that may not know it's audio-only. Not video, even though they're going that way." He said, "well, here's what I'd tell them. First, you got to actually be consistent. Whenever you decide to do it, do it at that same day and that same time every week or multiple times a week. Whatever that happens to be. Number two, more importantly. You must commit yourself to doing that for at least, the magic number, two years. If they are not willing to do that, I would tell them, don't even get started." We didn't talk about monetization. None of that was discussed during this Q&A. That was telling. Who was I talking about this earlier with earlier today? It's not necessarily about monetizing. It's about building your platform, and I wanted to add to that. It took me in two years. I was just hitting that moment in time of my live show. That's when the momentum started. He was spot on, and so are you, Christian, about the two years. Then using a certain strategy (that) I use, I continually ask for referrals in a certain way. I eventually landed the one and only Les Brown. Some of you know who that is. Some of you don't. I've noticed some don't and Im like,"what rock are you living under?" He's amazing, and he's been on my show. Because of that, the two-year commitment is my point. Not talking about monetization. Then what I found after doing this for two years and striving for excellence all the time in every facet, I'm talking about the preshow communication with upcoming guests and the setup and the prep that they all go through and my system makes sure they do. The show itself and then after the show, all the post-production, everything that goes into it. Once you have that, people notice and my show, without my intending it to be, became an incredible, powerful lead magnet for my business. Focus, just as Christian was stating so properly, does definitely, positively impact your business. If you do it right. You do it high quality, and again, within reason within the resources you have. Go ahead, Christian.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I was going to say. That's another point that people look at, and they want to generate revenue off of it. That revenue may not be actual money upfront. It may end up being (help) (to) drive more leads to my website. It's not necessarily driving more people to my social channels. You're following is... It's OK. That's not going to necessarily grow your business because you had five more followers on Instagram or something like that. It's potentially getting them back to your website, which can be an opportunity for them to schedule a coaching call with you, maybe buy a product from you, learn from you for example. You're not going to get every single person to become a customer, but you're going to be able to use it to generate more leads.

Brian Kelly:
Totally, totally true.

Dylan Shinholser:
That's why I do it.

Brian Kelly:
You see on the top of this screen "streaming live on" and then five. We're doing it to eight right now or seven right now. "Listen-on" down below. On the bottom, there's actually twenty five of those like us could fit them all. Roku now was on Fire TV. Look, you're not making money from those, but here's what happened. How many of you have heard of Kevin Harrington? Shark Tank? Original Shark Tank? He has a partner named, "Seth Green", and they do a podcast together. They've been doing it for years now. They have five-hundred plus episodes. We got introduced, Seth and I. I met Kevin. We shared the stage once. I'm not name-dropping, but yes, I am. It was awesome, and it was fun. Seth reached out. We were connected by someone else. We were introduced, and Seth did his own homework. He came back, we literally talked on Zoom, and he says, "wow, I did some research. I looked you up and, my God, you're everywhere." I just wanted to say, "yeah, that's right." So, you want to get out there. That's why, shameless plug, I call it, "carpet bomb marketing". You saturate with everything you've got within reason. Right? If you can automate it, it can be near or completely free. So just do it. Why not add it to your arsenal? So, it works. Just be consistent to a minimum of two years. Get in touch with people like Julie, Christian, Tim, and Dylan. You might make that even quicker than two years. I'll direct you to the shortcuts that many of us did by trial and error.

Timothy McNeely:
Touching on the monetization piece, a good friend of mine runs one of the top coaching consultancies out there. Right. Very, very successful. Runs a great podcast, great show. I ask him one day. I said, "have you need any money doing your podcast?" He thought for a second. He says, "naw, I've actually lost money doing it. The relationships that I've made...I've made millions off (of) that." If you approach it from that standpoint... There's different goals, but I always approach, you know, what's the end result? What are you looking for out of your show? Why are you doing it? That's how you can measure the success of it. Is it helping you achieve whatever goals you set for yourself?

Brian Kelly:
Totally agree. It's very similar. Isn't it? To writing a book? I'm holding up another namedrop. Yes, it's very similar to writing your own book. Because a lot of people want to write a book and make a living off of the sales of the book. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, most of the time it just doesn't happen that way. If anyone comes up to you and you're talking to them... During the course of conversation, maybe you ask them what they've been up to? Or, hey, I've authored a book. The moment they say that, in your eyes, do they not lift up in an influence in your mind? Right then and there? Instantly. It builds authority. That's exactly what this live show, and live shows like it, are doing. When you're giving evidence of it by spitting it out to all of these platforms, there's no way people can't find you and know that you're serious. You know, it's showing that you have a commitment level. It's showing that you have a quality level of professionalism. It's not about the show itself. It's like, well, if I do business with that person, or will I... Will I want to do business that person? If they're professional. Yes. If they put on a shoddy show, they might give me shoddy service. If I do business with them. Does that make sense? People want to (be) representing yourself in the best. Do it the best you can, but do it. Please, don't delay. Don't try to be perfect. You heard everybody talk. Go ahead, Dylan. You had something?

Dylan Shinholser:
Well, yeah. There's indirect ways to make money with shows, live streams, and of course direct (ways). Right. Direct is selling sponsorships, ad-space, all that good stuff. The indirect monetization is so much more powerful. When I do shows or when I hop on shows or anything, it's literally just to build a top-down awareness of myself. I just want people to know what Dylan Shinholser is. Then that way, because I do multiple things, I'm never trying to sell one product at any given time. I'm trying to sell myself, and what it does is it gives me that outlet to do it. Then if you're hosting a show. Right? This maybe goes into some other topics around how to market and things like that. It's a powerful relationship tool because when you can open your platform to other people that you're looking to connect with. I'm in the business of working with influencers and throwing their events. Well, the best way to connect was get them on my show. It gave me a reason to reach out that wasn't pitchy or sales. It was more or less. Hey, man, I just want to give you an outlet, because I think what you talk about is cool. Tell my people about it. After the show, I was like, "hey, man, what are you doing next Tuesday? I need a speaker." Or "hey, man. I have some ideas (that) I want to pitch you or (some) things. They're more receptive. So, I always do shows and things not about the direct money I get, but the indirect thing. It's the indirect impact that I get from relationships, or people sharing my stuff out and people go, oh man, he sounds semi-intelligent unless they're watching this. Then then they'll go, okay, great. Let me go over to this platform that he runs with this business that he does or whatever because he sounded halfway intelligent on that show. Right? So, I think the indirect monetization is what most people don't... They don't get that the instant gratification of like that five thousand dollars sponsorship check. When I forgo that and go on to bring on much more money on the backend with the people I connect with, in the top influence that I get.

Brian Kelly:
The magic word there was "relationship".

Dylan Shinholser:
Relationships all day, every day. That's all I do- is build relationships, and how can I do it? Do more shows like this. Can I get it out? You're on like forty-two different podcast or outlets here, right? Every one of those. Every time you put a show on it, you're building a relationship with someone on that platform. Even if it's just you talking, and they're listening. You're building that relationship. Everything (that) I do, is built on: how can I develop relationships? Live streams is just an amazing way to do so.

Brian Kelly:
Posting them is one thing. Right? That's a great thing. What I learned through a podcasting expert friend of mine is the maybe not as equally important, but possibly greater importance, is getting on other people's shows. That includes audio podcasts only. He explained how his business skyrocketed when he did what he called, "podcast guest marathons". He would have someone get him booked in his team. He would carve out three days and just say get as many as you can for me. He'd do that. Then when they ask him about how to get in contact with him... This is the gold right here... It's not go to my Facebook page and look up my name and message me. He would tell them to go to his podcast website and from there to subscribe. Now he's building a following. It's genius. It's so genius. I just want to impart that. The cool thing, though, is when you're hosting a high-quality live show that opens the door for you to be a guest on many more.

Dylan Shinholser:
Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Being a guest is what goes back to the authority building. Right? If I can build my authority, I build my influence. If I do have something to sell... If I'm trying to build my brand or whatever it is or I'm just trying to get to as many people as possible to talk about events with them... That authority I call it, "authority hacking", being able to get them on your show. That'll get your show in front of their audience, and then going on to other shows helps you develop your authority. It's like writing a book. I was I'm a guest on this show, this show, this show. It's like writing a book. Your authority starts to become a little bit more when you're leveraging their influence. Right? When you're a guest on the show, if that show has a following, you becoming a guest on that show gives you authority because now you have the validation of the host that everyone is following and love. So, I can authority hack by getting on other people's shows.

Brian Kelly:
It leverges. You have a whole new tribe watching and interacting with you as well. I mean, this is one of the most powerful things people can use. If they just get out of that rut of trying to find a way to make money with it directly, that's when they'll see the real value come through. It's about building relationships. It's long-term. Not short, quick kill. I got to make a commission and run. It's build a relationship. Establish it. If you go into this with the mindset of it not being for directly making money, I personally think you have greater success. The long-term plays always work better than the short-term. Short-term works can work, but they're temporary. The long-term is a lot more permanent and lasting. Just think of all the wonderful bread crumbs you're leaving throughout the world. Through all the venues and platforms we've been talking about. In speaking terms, if you're on stage, that's what we call a "stage swap". Where you would be a guest on someone else's stage in return for them saying, "okay, but I'm going to do the opposite." We'll have you on our as well. The same thing with podcasts and live video. It works really great. Just make sure they're a fit.

Dylan Shinholser:
They've got to fit. (It's) got to makes sense.

Brian Kelly:
Both ways. Yeah.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I want to add something real quick to that. If you are consistently going live, so it's great to be consistent, go live on a regular basis, but also think about the long game. It's a couple of years, for example. Also, don't be afraid to be making changes and adjustments as things are moving along. It's not about substituting equipment. It's about looking at your process. For example, you mentioned Brian, that you have automation on some of the things. Think of smarter ways to take bigger jumps ahead. If I have to send someone an email, and I'm like, "hey, do you want to be on my show?" Then I have to deal with the whole back and forth. Well, okay. Yeah. What time? Then I have to send everything back. There are tools out there like Calendly, Harmonizely. You can send a calendar link to somebody and they can only book a certain slot for example and vice versa. This takes out the guesswork out of having to do all that back and forth. That's a way to work smarter because now you want to book people for your show. You send them one link. The person then doesn't have to send you a message back, and you can even use it to collect feedback for your show questions. There's not a lot of back-and-forth and downtime.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, absolutely. I do that as well, and it's a godsend. I could not do what I'm doing. I would not do what I'm doing without the automation part of it. I have an onboarding form. You guys all... Most, not all of you went through it, but that was a mini version. Julie, you went through the big version. I then changed it right after I saw that. Like you said, make adjustments. That's what I did. I'm constantly doing that. Improving. I have a document automatically generated in Google Docs with your bio. The answer you had to why you think you would bring value to the show. Also, all the questions you chose to be asked for the show. Some of you didn't see that. So everything's done. The Q&A part used to take hours and hours doing manually. Now I just give them thirty-eight questions. Choose ten, and we're good. You tick the box. You choose what I'm going to ask you. (I) just made it a system, and it has worked beautifully. I don't even use the ten questions hardly. I use maybe the first three. Then we go organically like we've been doing tonight. My God, it's six twenty-nine! Are you kidding me? I'm having too much fun. Real quick. I know everyone that came on in the beginning. You heard this thing about a prize. We're going to do that real quick, and we'll come back and wrap it up. For those of you watching, remember in the beginning I said, "take notes and don't go clicking away and stuff like that"? Now I think Dylan, Julie, Tim, and Christian will also give you permission to do what I'm saying, and that is take out your phone. Take your gaze away from us for just a moment, but you'll still have to look back. Yes, yes. You can do this too. Please, do. What I want you to do....

Dylan Shinholser:
I need a vacation.

This is how you can enter to win a five-night stay at a five-star luxury resort of your choosing. Here's what you do. Take out your message app on your phone. Fire that up- your text message app. Where you would type in the name of the person normally that you're going to text. Instead, put in this number: three, one, four, six, six five-they're all doing it behind the scenes- one, seven, six, seven. I love this. Three, one, four, six, six, five, one, seven, six, seven. If you're watching this and you're not a guest, go ahead and write this down because I gonna take the screen down. I want you to get it. This will be open until the end of the evening. Where you actually put in the message... Where you might put emojis, those kinds of things, not emojis, just two words separated by a dash or a hyphen. Those words are peak (P-E-A-K) dash Vacation (V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N). All together. No spaces. Peak vacation. Send it off, then monitor your phone. You're going to get an automated response back asking you for your email address, and that will then officially enter you into the contest. Compliments of The Big Insider Secrets. Our buddies, Jason Nash, the owner. Dear friend of mine who lets us give this away every single week. Every show, actually. We do more than one a week now on average. So go ahead, get that entered. I can't wait to see who's going to win that. You're going to be asked later, you don't have to if you're the winner, to provide your Facebook information. Just your profile so we can say congrats and give you a high-five online and get others to come watch the show. To be honest, that's another strategy. We're just rolling back the curtain. That's why we do it this way. You can offer incentives like that. My friend has offered that to anyone who is my friend. If you're not my friend, you don't get it. If you're on as part of the panel here, they're all my friends. Christian may differ on that opinion, but I think he's my friend.

Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm your friend. Yes.

Brian Kelly:
Ok, good. I picked on you so hard. I apologize, but you're just you're a fun guy. I appreciate you for putting up with it. I definitely do stuff like that. Implement it and announce it in the beginning. That helps retention. I'm just pulling back the curtain for everybody. You can do different things like that. Having multiple people, I noticed, is also a little better than just one every single time. So, mix it up now and then. Alright. I know we're a little bit over, but I want to give you each another chance for a final parting tip. Anything you want on live streaming. It could be hardware, software, how you smile, what bling you wear, don't wear, your makeup. I'm wearing some, by the way, just so the guys know. Yeah, I don't know what they call it. It's not like guy up.. guy-liner, but it's like makeup. I know. That was bad.

Dylan Shinholser:
I haven't heard of that one.

Brian Kelly:
I just did that. I'm not a young fart anymore. Anyway. So, Dylan, we'll do the same thing. Go around the horn. What would be one final quick tip, or parting words of advice, you can give our wonderful viewing and listening audience?

Dylan Shinholser:
Keep it simple stupid. Don't overcomplicate it. There's things that you need to do and standards you need to meet. At the end of the day, keep it simple stupid will allow you to not overcomplicated it (and) get overwhelmed. Once you get overwhelmed, it's a wash. I would just say as a life advice, event advice, live stream advice, just keep it simple stupid and keep it moving.

Brian Kelly:
Real quick, I got to interject on that. Just so people know that that comes from an acronym K.I.S.S. So we're not calling everybody stupid, for one.

Dylan Shinholser:
Well...

Brian Kelly:
That was great. I have a friend who is Sicilian in nature, and he did this from the stage. He talked about it, and he brought up the whole thing. We're talking about doing it without complicating it. He goes, "It's like K.I.S.S. Who knows what K.I.S.S means?" Someone raised their hands. They said, "keep it simple, stupid". He goes,"Oh, no, no. It's keep it simple Sicilian." He lighten the load of the stupid part. I thought that was cool. Sorry, Julie, what is your parting tip?

Julie Riley:
You know, you're going to have to get started at some point. In order to do that, you're going to have to get over your fear. Go practice. Get those done, but also go watch and find other people that you resonate with their live shows. Start to take pieces from each of those. Now, obviously, you cannot go copy their live show and recreate it. You can pull little things from multiple different people's live shows that you like and that resonate with you. If you're comfortable and things are resonating with you, you're going to exude that comfort and that confidence out to the rest of the world.

Brian Kelly:
I love it. I love it. Alright. The man, the myth, the legend, Timothy J. McNeely. What is your final parting word of advice?

Timothy McNeely:
I'm going to close with a story. The purpose of this story is to illustrate the power of doing a show. July 20th, 1969, the first man walked on the moon. He left his footprints up there. On the moon, there's no wind. There's no rain. There's no weather, and those footprints today in twenty twenty-one look exactly like they did in nineteen sixty-nine. They're going to be exactly the same a million years from now. You too. You leave footprints on the hearts and the minds of everyone that you come in contact with. In streaming and having a platform, that's your opportunity to leave your footprints and to have an impact on people. Get clear about what your message is. What's the impact you want to have? If you do that, all of the other puzzle pieces are going to fall in place for you.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, baby. Okay, I've got to do it. I've got to do it. That was amazing.

Dylan Shinholser:
You have to get one of the little lower third animation gifts that are possible here on StreamYard. It's just a mic drop every time someone does one.

Brian Kelly:
Not nearly as much fun though, bro.

Christian Karasiewicz:
That's true. Fair. Very fair. I'll give it to you. I've got to get me one of those little squishy microphones.

Brian Kelly:
A little sound effect like I just broke my desk or something. That would be good. Alright, Christian, you've had a long time to think about it now. No pressure, but this better be a good one. I'm kidding. What do you have?

Christian Karasiewicz:
Let's see. The best piece of advice, I think, would be don't have gas or gear acquisition syndrome. You're going to watch people doing their live streams, and they're going to go and be like, "hey, I got to get that mic because this person upgraded." Oh, they got a new webcam. Remember? If you develop a plan, the whole thing is work the plan.. work the system. It's great (that) somebody else got some equipment, but it doesn't mean that you need to go out and get that yourself as well. Remember, work your plan. When you get to the certain points, maybe set that as a milestone. If I get to a certain number of viewers, for example, or a certain number of subscribers on a channel, then I might need to upgrade something. Don't be buying stuff just because someone else is doing so.

Brian Kelly:
Sales drive service. I love it. You guys are amazing. Thank you so much for coming on. Everyone who watched live. Thank you for coming on. Those of you that watched on the recording. Thank you for spending your valuable time with us, and those listening on the podcast. The same goes for you. Definitely. I hope you took a lot of notes because these are experts in the field. They are giving their value, their heart, their experience. They only charged me two-hundred thousand dollars for it. It's really been a deal. I'm kidding. They charged me nothing. You got incredible value from these amazing, amazing professionals. I can't thank you all enough. I appreciate you Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. Thank you from the bottom of my heart with all seriousness. I know we had some fun tonight. Thank you, Christian, so much for letting me pick on you so hard. You've been a great guy. I look forward to getting to know each and every one of you at a deeper level. If you're open to that after tonight. Appreciate you all. On behalf of these amazing people, that's it. We're out. My name is Brian Kelly. I'm the host of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Until next time we will see you. Be blessed. So long for now.

Narrator :
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