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Brian Kelly:
So here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward only to fall two steps back? Who are dedicated. Determined. And driven. How do we finally break through and win? That is the question. And this podcast will give you the. My name is Brian Kelly. This is the Mind Body Business Show. Hello, everyone, and welcome. Welcome, Welcome to the Mind Body business show. Very, very excited for tonight's episode because we have an amazing, amazing man that is here with us tonight. He's sitting in the green room waiting, clawing at the screen. Let me in. I want to talk and share my brilliance and experience. And he is coming very, very soon. His name is Rennie Gabriel, and I. I know you are going to love this guy just as much as I do. Uh, really great attitude, wonderful smile, great energy. And he loves helping people. And that's the kind of people that tend to come on this show. Just everyone. Only everyone. And that's the beautiful thing. And the other thing that's really phenomenal about Rennie is he is very successful and he's going to come on and share with you how he became successful. And the cool thing, another cool thing there's so many is that he did it in a very relatively short period of time. And so I'm going to be peeling apart the onion, so to speak, and getting into his big, beautiful brain and finding out exactly how this all transpired. And we're going to learn a lot about him. He's got a book. He's got a phenomenal website. He gives to charity, donates everything that you could love in a person. That's Rennie Gabriel right there. And he's coming on here really, really soon. And the mind body business show, that is exactly what it is all about. It's about bringing on successful entrepreneurs from all over the world and for the sole purpose of sharing their wisdom, their insights, their experience, their success with you, even their failures. Because it just as important it is to know how to succeed.
Brian Kelly:
It's also important to know what doesn't work so that you can avoid doing that as well, because you might be doing it. And when Rennie gets on or Rennie gets on and talks about his successes, most entrepreneurs I interview, they also talk about what how, you know, there were a lot of pain points to get through to get to that point. And so by giving you both sides, you get the shortcut to success. And it's a legitimate, authentic and integrity based shortcut. It's one that you need and one that you deserve. And that's why we're here. And so it's about the three pillars of success, and that's the three words of this very show mind, body and business and mind really represents mindset. And I interviewed and studied many successful people over a ten year period and focused just on successful people. And that's where these three pillars came from mind was to a person. Each of these successful individuals had a very powerful positive and most importantly, though, flexible mindset, very important and body to a person. Each of these individuals also took care of themselves physically and nutritionally. And then business. Business is multi, multifaceted, and it involved the mastering of various skill sets. These individuals mastered skill sets that are necessary to build, maintain and grow a thriving business. Skill sets like marketing team building, systematizing leadership. I could go on for quite some time. There are a lot of them. The good news is you don't have to master every single one of them by yourself. In fact, if you were to master just one of them by yourself, if you were to and with help get mentors, get help, get ready, they'll probably help you. I don't know. We'll find out. Get people who have been there and done that, who have learned and mastered the skill set of this one skill set called leadership. Because once you have mastered that skill set, you can now leverage and bring in other folks who have mastered the other skill sets that you have yet to. Or let's be honest, you may never master because of the time involved in mastering any one thing takes a long time. And so leadership big, big skill set.
Brian Kelly:
Thankfully, I learned that one pretty short into my own entrepreneurial career, which itself did not start until my late 40 seconds. So there you go. They're never too old. And Rennie's going to tell us even a better story. It's even going to beat that. I'm going to. It's awesome. Don't want to give it away. And so also to a person, each of these individuals that I talked about or talked to study, these are mentors, authors of books, some that were alive, some that are no longer with us, mentors that I've worked with personally. It wide and varied. It cast a broad net, but each and every single person of that group were also very avid readers of books. And with that, I'd like to segue very quickly into a segment I affectionately call Bookmarks.
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Brian Kelly:
Yes. There you see. Reach your peak. Library.com. And a word of of advice at this moment is for those of you watching. And if you're not watching live, be sure to go to the mindbody business show.com and register. That will be mentioned here a little bit later in more detail and be sure so you can join us live and engage and ask questions. We love engagement, but one quick word of advice and that is if you're it doesn't matter if you're watching this live on recording or listening on audio through one of the podcast platforms we're on, 35 of them is to rather than succumb to that itch, so to speak, to run over and start looking at these resources, going off into another browser tab, for instance, and typing in something like Richard Peak Library.com Instead of doing that, I would implore upon you to instead write notes, take it down, write it down, reach your peak library.com, write it down, keep your focus and gaze at the screen. Not for me, but for when Rennie comes on specifically. And especially because here's the thing. The magic happens in the room. This happened to me many times from stage I'll be speaking. I know when I'm getting to the really juicy part, but I don't know every part of that, which is the part that's going to have that life impactful. Aha moment on that individual who is now getting up and walking out of the room because they either had to go to the restroom or that all important phone call or text message came in that they just couldn't be without. And then they're walking out and they miss what possibly could have changed their life for better forever. So please don't let that be you. And this is just a suggestion. I take notes and I'm running this whole daggone thing. I'll show them to you later if you want. So please take notes. Do not run away. Focus completely on this show, especially when Rennie comes on, which is going to be very, very soon. I promise. I'm going to stop rambling here in just a moment. And so Reach Your Peak Library is a site that I had my team put together literally with you in mind.
Brian Kelly:
And the reason is because I myself was not a voracious reader until about 11 years ago at the ripe age of 47. So I know you're all doing the math. How old is he? And so I didn't start reading anything of great value until the age of 47. And so I started just collecting all the good reads, the great reads, the ones that had actual impact, positive impact, profound impact on my business life, my professional life, my personal life, or both. And so I put them on this website, had them thrown in here and literally they're thrown in here. They're in no particular order, no rhyme or reason. Just scroll through, find the first one that you haven't read yet that jumps off the screen, read the description, and if you want to get it and read it, you don't have to do it on this website. Get it from wherever you get your books. This is not for the purpose of making money. All those buttons go straight to Amazon. And we do have one book, though I will say, that's going to be offered tonight that you will want to get and you will want to get it through Renegade Oriel's website. Not on Amazon, not anywhere else, because you'll see why in a moment. It's what he's doing is phenomenal and I'm so appreciative that he's doing that. So anyway, that is what this is here for. You'll you'll be amazed if you haven't been reading voraciously or on on purpose or in habit. You'll notice that once you start that your life will change for the better. And that's what happened with me and that's why I share this resource with you. It's truly and literally my gift to you for coming here and watching and listening to the mind body business show. All right, enough of my blabbing, because you know what time it is. It's Randy Gabriel time. Yes, yes, yes. I cannot wait. Let's bring him on, shall we? Here we go.
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Brian Kelly:
And there he is, ladies and gentlemen. Yes, it is the one. It is the only. Gabriel. Yes. How are you doing, my friend?
Rennie Gabriel:
I am doing so great. I'm. It's fantastic. And I've got to compliment you, Ryan, because the intro to the show was the best I've ever seen. Well, you talked about babbling on. I got to tell you, you covered some fabulous points, things that I would even be talking about when you talk about, you know, growing a business. I mean, I've got a quote that there was something you said that reminded me of it. And it's wealth creation is a team sport, not a solo sport.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, yes. Boom. And so, so true. At the library.
Rennie Gabriel:
The reading, I mean, everything was just so spot on. So I've got to acknowledge you for what you've put together.
Brian Kelly:
Well, thank you so much. I appreciate that. Yeah. And I've learned so much literally from people like you, Renee, from having come on the show. And that's what I implore people to do also, is start their own show there You will get the greatest education that comes at no cost other than the cost of putting everything together. There is cost involved. Let's not let's not cover that over with anything. It is truly it truly takes money. But oh my gosh, the investment of money and time is so worth it. You can't quantify the amount of money. And I know you also have your podcast and you're nodding emphatically because you realize this seem to be true as well. Um, I want to introduce you formally and officially here in just a moment, and we need to take care of a little bit of housekeeping, I'd like to call it, and others might call it bookkeeping because we want to get some ad spots going here. So it's just a few minutes, folks. Just sit tight, write down some notes as you see this flying by. And Renee and I will be right back. So don't go anywhere. Here we go. Hey, if you're watching the Mind Body business show live right now, then you will have the ability to win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort of your choosing. Compliments of the big insider secrets. What is it? It is a five night vacation stay to one of many destinations across the world. You can see as we go through this very quickly, there's some in Branson and Daytona Beach. These are in the United States, all over the United States, New Orleans, San Diego, There's also Mexico. There's also the UK and Argentina. I mean, it just keeps going on and on and on. Australia, at the end of this show, you will be given the ability to enter to win. You must be watching this live. If you're not watching live, then head on over to the mind body business show.com and register to receive automated notifications when we go live the next time we do not spam, we do not even pitch any products or anything from that notification.
Brian Kelly:
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Brian Kelly:
Oh, this is it Just keeps getting better. His award winning best selling book, Go and Hold That Up, Rennie. If you have that handy wealth on any income has been translated into eight languages. This is a man making an impact. Thank you so much, Rennie on the World in a great, profound and positive way. Ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, the one and only Rennie Gabriel. Yeah. Thank you.
Rennie Gabriel:
Brian. Thank you so much. And, oh, I was looking over that library that you have available and thinking. Oh, yeah, I've read that one. Yeah, I've read that one. I've read that one.
Brian Kelly:
And there's going to be one added to that library. I think someone was just holding it up a second ago. Um, I can't think of the name of it. I'm totally kidding. Yeah. And for those of you watching, you can see it behind him. You can see it under his name wealth on any income.com. Write that down. Don't go there now but you will go there you'll want to after the show and we're going to give you some great resources. Rennie has a gift to give away as well. So you do not want to leave. You want to stay on until the end. That's when all these wonderful showering of gifts and you'll get to enter to win that vacation stay. All that will occur at the end. Don't go anywhere. Stay with us. Rennie. I want to. I am so curious. I have so many questions just from the bio alone. But what I wanted to do is start from I love the first word of the show, Mine, Mine set. It's so powerful and it's my opinion that every one of us, every single one of us humans, our level of success or lack thereof, is 100% due to what is going on in our own noggin between our own two ears has nothing to do with outside forces. What happened to me? What they did to you? It has nothing to do with any of that. It's all controlled right here. And I've learned that over the course of years now. And it's been an amazing awakening for me personally. So I'm curious, Rennie, you you've been through it. Obviously the bio talks mean can't two divorces. My gosh, brother, just that alone is a difficult thing I would imagine, to go through. But you've been through a lot. You've had life experience and now you're doing this business and you're donating all of your proceeds, your profits because you can. But to get to that point, there had to be some struggle and there had to be some Yeah, some getting up in the morning going, Holy crap, I got a lot I got to take care of today. And there are arduous tasks that are involved in becoming successful. And so I'm curious for you, when you were getting up in the morning, even till this day, what is it when you get up, what's going on in that big, beautiful brain of yours that is keeping you driven, that is keeping you motivated, keeping you, serving others? What is that for you each and every day?
Rennie Gabriel:
Well, I got to say that you talk about mindset and I'm not sure if it's 100%. My feeling is it's only 100% love it. And what gets me up in the morning and gets me moving is what I did the night before. And what I did for years was I wrote out a list of the things that I needed to accomplish the next day, the evening before. And either highlighted or starred or in some way marked two of the ten items, which is the 8020 principle. That will do the most for me if I only get those two done and not the other eight. The other eight are irrelevant, but those two are responsible for 80% of my results. So that was done every evening before I went to bed. I also gave some anticipation of how much time it would take to accomplish things, and that's what I would do, so that when I got up in the morning, I knew what was going to be happening.
Brian Kelly:
And that is, I mean, if. If we stop the show right now, that would be enough for everybody to take that advice and crush it successfully. Because you just described, you know, those that are always doing this multitasking, looking at the shiny ball syndrome because they haven't prioritized their list so they can focus on I mean, to come on people, if you can't finish two tasks in an entire day Yeah some of them take longer than others, but that makes total sense. And it's so interesting, Renee Recently, it's a long story. I'm thinking how to paraphrase it, but I my dad has advanced dementia and he was getting scammed out of a lot of money and it became a massive burden on everybody and really specifically yours truly, because I live closest to him and still do. And so I had that to deal with. I had my business to deal with. I had a wife who was going through breast cancer at the same time to do it. And so it was too much. And I got to the point where I'm talking my brother lives in Arizona, so he's not right here. But he was very helpful, very helpful. But we were on the phone all the time. And I said I said, Brad, you know, we bring up another issue. I said, Brad, all I can do is focus on what's next. I can't I don't have the I don't have the capacity to do anymore is focus on and finish that one and then we'll move to the next one. And when that was all done, I looked back and said, Holy moly, that's exactly how you should be running a business. And you just said it. You just said it. I mean, it's like, Isn't that awesome? I just love how this all comes together. So sweet. Yeah. And so. Yeah, life, life.
Rennie Gabriel:
Works. Personal life, business life. They work in tandem. You screw up one, you're going to screw up the other and vice versa. You're going to be successful in one. You'll be successful in the other.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. So the question everybody watching and listening is which one would you choose? I would choose being.
Rennie Gabriel:
Successful at home first.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, No, I mean, I was telling everybody was asking everybody Yeah be successful. Yeah. And start with that. And then how does one do that? They listen to people like Renee Gabriel, who has figured it out. That's why we do the show mean right off the bat. Like, bam, we're, you know, you're dropping incredible bombs of value like the bomb thing because the carpet bomb.
Rennie Gabriel:
Oh, that does remind me when you put that up on the screen from the stand. I used to teach art in high school. That was my first job out of college, was teaching art and coaching. Wrestling. Wow. And Yeah. A little. I know. A little.
Brian Kelly:
Divergent.
Rennie Gabriel:
There, right? Your art teacher is also the wrestling coach. Okay. Anyway, the word bomb shouldn't be on a similar background or a similar color as your background. Yeah. It needs to pop a little bit, add some of the orange into the middle of the word bomb or something because that you just it fades out and you don't want it to fade out.
Brian Kelly:
God, I swear to goodness. You must have been reading. I am not kidding. As I'm watching that, that's come up many times on the show, meaning the visual has come up and I've seen it and I'm like, you know, I could really add some more light background or something to make that stand out because Bomb isn't coming. I swear to goodness. I'm not kidding. I had that very thought. So. So, okay.
Rennie Gabriel:
Now here, here's a are you open for a drop of coaching? Just a.
Brian Kelly:
Drop. Always. Yes, love. Oh, terrific job training.
Rennie Gabriel:
So here's the question I ask people who say they they want to do something. They need to do something. They're planning to do something. Okay. Bye. When will you fix that graphic?
Brian Kelly:
Ooh. By tomorrow, brother. Okay. So tomorrow is Thursday.
Rennie Gabriel:
And now here's the second question.
Brian Kelly:
How will I know.
Rennie Gabriel:
You've done it?
Brian Kelly:
I will share it with you. Perfect.
Rennie Gabriel:
By what time?
Brian Kelly:
That's a good one. I have to look at my calendar. Honestly, I schedule everything. Tomorrow's Friday is Fridays usually slammed. I will. Say. Tomorrow's Friday. I will say before noon. I'll make that happen. Okay. Perfect.
Rennie Gabriel:
Okay. Thank you.
Brian Kelly:
So, ladies and gentlemen. He is demonstrating what it is to coach using accountability. It is so unbelievably powerful. I just gave him a verbal contract. I promise. I didn't say the word promise, but in my head that's what I was doing. I promise to to modify that logo to make it more eye popping doesn't mean it's going to be perfect. He might come back and say, Yeah, but do this instead. That's okay. But at least I will have taken that next step. And that is a coach's coach right there, Renee Or I keep saying Renee. Renee is that is exactly mean. Oh, and I appreciate that. And thank you. Thank you for that. I love receiving coaching. I mean, I didn't pay a dime for it. And you probably would be able to charge quite a bit an hourly on an hourly rate. And here's another benefit of having your live show, ladies and gentlemen. So I appreciate that. I receive it. I love coaching. I don't ego things. And because you have the model of embedding accountability, that means what that means is when Renee coaches you, you will get the results you're coming to him for. That's the beautiful thing. If he just says do. It and doesn't say when, and then how will I know? Show me the proof. It'll never get done. It just won't happen. Yeah And now.
Rennie Gabriel:
One of the things you might have missed but don't think you did is I asked your permission before I provided any coaching you did.
Brian Kelly:
And that was. That was so respectful. Respectful. And even even if I was paying you, I imagine that's what you would ask in the beginning. Part of the model. Yeah. That's right. It just. It pulls you in. You're like, Oh, man. Yeah. And it's genius. It's beautiful. And like you said before we even came on. Simple, right? Yeah. And this is one of the key things I want to keep harping on. And please do the same when you feel it's right. Renny is That is probably one of the biggest characteristics and reasons why you became successful in such a short amount of time. Successful by way of how much money you made a multi-millionaire since the age of 50, which was probably two years ago. So I don't know. Oh, you're so kind. Yeah, you probably don't know how old I am, but yeah.
Rennie Gabriel:
Thank you for being so kind.
Brian Kelly:
But I will tell. You, relatively. Short period of time compared to 98% of the people on the planet. Yeah or more.
Rennie Gabriel:
With a span of within a span of eight years from broke to not having to work for a living.
Brian Kelly:
That is. Amazing. Can I ask you, which I'm sure many have, how did that come to be? Is there a concise, consolidated manner in pointing out the key elements that got you there, or do we need to have like a five hour talk? Either way is fine with me. I'm good. Yeah. There's two.
Rennie Gabriel:
Two key elements. The first one is that I already mentioned, which is wealth creation is a team sport, not a solo sport. And the second is. Um Hmm. Yeah. Brian, can I put you on the spot?
Brian Kelly:
Please do.
Rennie Gabriel:
Okay. So have you heard of the expression Pay yourself first?
Brian Kelly:
Yes.
Rennie Gabriel:
Okay. Could you explain it?
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, it's I think it's subjective. In my my view of. It is, you know, give yourself. The money you need to, to, to establish, to. Take care of your needs first. And then whatever you have left, you then reinvest into your business. I would reinvest and into your team. Okay, that sounds nice.
Rennie Gabriel:
And that's not it. So it comes from a book called The Richest Man in Babylon. Because remember on your sheet you said, here's some questions you I'm going to ask you. So one of my favorites, because I've got a bunch of favorites, is The Richest Man in Babylon by George Clason.
Brian Kelly:
And in it he.
Rennie Gabriel:
Describes the concept of pay yourself first. And what it is, is wherever your money's coming from, however much you're earning, whether it's commissions, whether it's tips, whether it's royalties, whether it's a paycheck, it doesn't make any difference. You take a certain percentage. I don't care where you start. It could be one, three, 5%, whatever. The book suggests 10% and you set it aside. You don't just set it aside. You set it aside to keep for the rest of your life. And the only purpose that money has is to be invested to make more money.
Brian Kelly:
That's it.
Rennie Gabriel:
And so that's the second thing I did. One is I didn't do it by myself. And two, I treated myself like I deserved to own some of the money I was working for, which is paying yourself first. Setting it aside. And here's what I'm getting at.
Brian Kelly:
I'm age 50.
Rennie Gabriel:
I'm divorced for the second time. I've had a business failure in an art gallery, put me into debt. Dug my way out of it. But at age 50. I'm divorced again and broke, so I'm making a living. I was making $5,000 a month doing business coaching. And I set aside $500 a month. In three years, I had saved up a whopping $18,000.
Brian Kelly:
Okay.
Rennie Gabriel:
I'm 53 years old. I've got $18,000 to my name. However, I could have done the wrong thing with it. And this is one of the things that I hear some financial gurus, CPAs, people who don't know how to create wealth, give advice to other people. They say, Oh, pay off your debts first, pay off your credit cards first before you begin to invest. If I would have done that, if I would have taken the $18,000 that it took me three years to save and paid off my credit card debts. When this realtor came to me and said, Renny, I have this three unit property. You should buy it. I would have had no money to do anything. Instead, I had that 18,000. Now I'm in Los Angeles. You don't get to buy anything for $18,000.
Brian Kelly:
Okay.
Rennie Gabriel:
You could rent an apartment, but you can't buy anything. All right.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, for a few months. Yeah.
Rennie Gabriel:
I'm married for the third time, and my wife says if he thinks it's such a good deal, I'll come up with $18,000 also. Well, now my wife and I have half the down payment, and the realtor said, This is such a good deal, I'll come up with half. The three of us. Remember, wealth creation is a team sport, not a solo sport. I could talk about Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak or Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger and on and on. Team effort. The three of us bought it, and one person is a visionary. That was the realtor. He found properties worth buying. I did nothing but execute by managing because I took a class at UCLA 14 years earlier on how to manage apartment buildings, and now I'm getting to put it into practice. So we bought the building, we rehabbed it, we put in new tenants, we increased the rents. Within five years. That building grew in value by a half $1 million. Which because of real estate and the the tax code you can transfer gain in real estate if you buy something similar Yeah like an office building, another apartment building, mini storage facility. You know, it's just a like kind exchange. So we went from the three units to a 14 unit building. And along the way, what I saw is this works.
Brian Kelly:
Okay.
Rennie Gabriel:
So I went out and well, this is a secret of the wealthy. I said, there are three secrets. This is one of them. Use debt to create wealth. I borrowed more money to make down payments on more apartment buildings with my wife and the realtor. And in the five years we did this, the first five years we went from that three unit purchase, we added 47 more units. And at 50 units we had a level of income where if I chose to work, fine, if I chose not to work, fine, didn't have to worry about things.
Brian Kelly:
That is beautiful. And I've heard this before. Like, you know, some. Will say don't, don't go into debt, period, end of story. And then others. The first time I heard it, I was like, Man, it makes total sense. They said, Oh, that's wrong. You do it if you're investing in yourself, if you're doing it to invest in a business, a venture, you know you're doing it wisely. That's not an unwise debt to go into. I'm like, Wow, that makes sense. So I've actually used that several times. Not always successful, but but not just to go buy a car, a refrigerator or, you know, something nice. Yeah, that's called bad debt. Exactly. Yeah. And, you know, anytime I. Do anything on credit, it's for a business. It's never for a personal anymore. And that's great sound advice. Obviously, I don't even have to give my opinion because it's truth. It works that we've got the proof of it right here. And so are all these principles. Those three secrets are those outlined in your book as well.
Rennie Gabriel:
Um, good question. In my TED Talk, I do talk about those three secrets. Um, the book was written before I was aware of those three secrets.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, that's awesome.
Rennie Gabriel:
And I'll tell you what the three secrets are because it's really simple. Again, because I'm simple. I need to be simple.
Brian Kelly:
I use an acronym.
Rennie Gabriel:
A f I for the three secrets, which has nothing to do with the American Film Institute.
Brian Kelly:
Okay.
Rennie Gabriel:
The A stands for attitude. You're talking about mindset? Yes. The wealthy have a different attitude when it comes to money, when it comes to debt, when it comes to treating themselves like they matter when it comes to where they investing, when it comes to how they're spending small amounts of money on and on and on. Okay. The second item. F stands for forms. Now, you and I have filled out the forms before, and wealthy people look at them differently. As an example, if you went to the bank for a loan, they have you to fill out a sheet that lists everything you own and everything you owe. A balance sheet. Well, when a wealthy person looks at that, they're looking for specific things on it. They're not looking to see, well, what's my total net worth? They're looking to see what assets do I have that I can invest and grow my wealth.
Brian Kelly:
And it's not a house.
Rennie Gabriel:
I love what Richard Kiyosaki says. Your house is not an asset.
Brian Kelly:
Let me ask you something.
Rennie Gabriel:
How much income does your house generate for you?
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, exactly. No. Okay.
Rennie Gabriel:
How much of the expenses does your house generate for you?
Brian Kelly:
A lot. Yeah. Yeah.
Rennie Gabriel:
It sucks up money. It doesn't generate it unless you're using it for an Airbnb or something. True. But the point is, other real estate, your business equipment, leasing, many storage facilities, all sorts of other things. Create your net worth so you could choose to work or not work. So what I'm getting at is the wealthy look at something different on a balance sheet than what ordinary people do. And then when it comes to the debt side, it's the same thing. Is this debt that's enhancing my wealth or is this debt that's sucking money from me?
Brian Kelly:
You know, when I buy.
Rennie Gabriel:
An apartment building, the bank's financing it. I'm not even making the payments to the bank. Well, I'm making them. I'm writing the checks. But it's the tenants who are paying the rent that gave me the money to pay those loans and pay other expenses and pay for my standard of living and everything else. Yeah Secret. Two forms Secret one A attitude Secret three I Investments. Here's a secret. The wealthy have control over their investments. They're not giving their money to some financial planner and hoping it turns out okay. As an example. If I bought stock in General Motors. Kelly. Brian. Sorry. What input could I give to General Motors on their next car design?
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Zero zero. You have zero input. Zero control.
Rennie Gabriel:
Yeah, Probably Warren Buffett, who owns GM stock, doesn't even get to tell him how to design a car.
Brian Kelly:
Exactly.
Rennie Gabriel:
Okay, so the point is, you buy corporate stock, you got nothing to say. You hope they do. Okay. But when I buy an apartment building, I can choose where I buy it, how I finance it, how I remodel it, or if I do, who the tenants are that I'm allowing to live there, whether I sell it, whether I refinance it, whether I do a tax deferred exchange, I'm in control of the investment. Many storage facilities, equipment leasing, oil and gas investments, on and on and on. The wealthy person is generally to some degree in control of their investments. With a stock, you buy it, you keep it or you sell it. It's not a lot. It's not much else to do. Maybe you do a covered call option writing on it.
Brian Kelly:
But the point is, you're not in control. Exactly. I love it. So those are the three secrets, attitude.
Rennie Gabriel:
Forms, investments.
Brian Kelly:
And before I go too far. Into this, I want to let people know about your TED Talk and where they can go to actually watch that because it's value based. If you're talking about the three secrets. So you got. To have A12 punch so you'll everyone listening and watching, you'll want to, number one, get his book, which will give you that information here in just a moment on how to do that. And then number two, or reverse the order, however, however you wish, his TED talk, which I imagine might just possibly be somewhere on his website, I don't know. Do you think maybe it might be there? Well.
Rennie Gabriel:
Last time I checked, yes, I found it there.
Brian Kelly:
So I'm going to bring that up right now. And so if. You can help me navigate, I just want to give people the exact location so they're not guessing like I might do. Let me pull that up. There we go. And is it on this main page or on a different page? Good question.
Rennie Gabriel:
I know if you add to the wealth on any income.com/ted.
Brian Kelly:
X, how about that one?
Rennie Gabriel:
There you go. You end up on that page.
Brian Kelly:
All right. So after the Earl of wealth on any income.com it's forward slash capital T capital E capital D lowercase X that actually makes a difference on many browsers these days. Case sensitive. All right. So that is where everyone you would want to go to watch. And the one thing I love about TED Talks is by by design, they are very short Yeah and that that forces the individual in this case. Rennie To get to the point quickly, and he's a simple guy, so, you know, he's going to do that and that's phenomenal and you're going to get a lot from it. And oh my gosh, we're giving away one of the things, but I'll come back to that in a little bit. Almost gave it away right there. So write. That down. Go to wealth on any income.com forward slash. Tedx and TEDx. All three letters are uppercase. The X is lowercase. I'm doing that on purpose multiple times, especially for those of you who are just listening, who cannot see the screen at the moment, listening on podcast on which we're on 35 different podcast platforms. Yes, I will keep repeating that because that's pretty awesome. Oh, we have Yeah. Joshua Lee is giving you a trophy cup thinking that's a good thing. That sounds like something good. Yes. Winner, winner. So, hey, you know what? While I have this up, I think this would be a good time to segue into what it is you are up to today. It looks like you are doing quite a bit of philanthropy. And even as I say that I'm reading it on your page, It says we are raising philanthropists. And so you also have a little thing there. 100% of profits donated to shelter to soldier, which is another phenomenal thing. Um, and so if you wouldn't mind giving us a little synopsis, a background of what it is you're doing today, who you are, you know, who's your target, Guess client If you're working with individuals or businesses or corporations, male, female, all that good stuff. And then if you have a success story or two to tell about what it is you've helped someone to overcome or some entity overcome or achieve and get results, then I'd love to hear that as well, if that's okay. I will do.
Rennie Gabriel:
My best to remember all those questions you.
Brian Kelly:
Ask. So yeah, yeah. The whole point.
Rennie Gabriel:
Of of the work that I'm doing is to raise philanthropists, meaning that I'm not supporting people to handle money effectively or powerfully so they can go out and buy a Ferrari or Lamborghini or, you know, a McMansion or something like that. I mean, they're certainly entitled to do that if they choose to. But the people that I care about generally, they're coaches, authors, corporate trainers, entrepreneurs, business people who have some level of control over their income and they care about other people. And in terms of raising philanthropists, the whole point is that when they have enough money, they get to donate to the causes that touch their heart. It doesn't have to be to the charities that I'm donating to. It's going to be to the things that they care about. And the whole point of the TED talk is to wake people up to the idea that we've all been programed to believe it's better to be poor than to be wealthy. And I give the illustration of books, movies, TV programs, the scripture and how we're indoctrinated subliminally, and we're not even aware of it, that it's better to be poor and have a quote from Warren Buffett. It's one of my favorite quotes. He says of the people that of the billionaires I've met. Money just brings out the basic traits in them. If they were jerks before they had money, they're simply jerks with $1 billion.
Brian Kelly:
The whole point.
Rennie Gabriel:
Being, if you're a good person to become wealthy, you'll still be a good person.
Brian Kelly:
And if you're a.
Rennie Gabriel:
Jerk right now, you'll still be a jerk. But with a lot of money. The key is you're not going to change just because you become wealthy. And that's what I've heard people have a fear of, Oh, I don't want to become wealthy because then I'll be a mean or horrible person. They get that from movies and TV shows and books. It is not true.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I've often heard that, you know, money magnifies who you already are.
Rennie Gabriel:
Exactly. Same thing. Yeah. So if you're a good person, it only magnifies it. If you're a creep, it only magnifies it. So you're absolutely right, Brian.
Brian Kelly:
So let me tell you about this charity.
Rennie Gabriel:
That gets 100% of the.
Brian Kelly:
Profits.
Rennie Gabriel:
Other animal organizations and other veteran organizations also get money, but anything they buy through the website goes directly to shelter, to Soldier hunter. And like the books, the programs.
Brian Kelly:
Shelter to soldier.
Rennie Gabriel:
Rescues, dogs that would have otherwise been euthanized and trains them as service animals for soldiers who've come back with PTSD or traumatic brain injuries or other issues that would have otherwise committed suicide. And the suicide rate among veterans is about 20 a day, almost one an hour. And not one veteran who's gotten their service dog is committed suicide. So this charity is saving two lives at a time. Every dollar is saving a dog that would have been euthanized and a soldier that might have otherwise committed suicide.
Brian Kelly:
So that's you know what?
Rennie Gabriel:
I am very blessed to donate a lot of money to.
Brian Kelly:
That brought tears of joy all over my body. And I appreciate you for being a catalyst to make this happen. And, you know, I've got a warm spot. Always for our. Veterans. And those who have served our wonderful, beautiful country. No matter. What state it happens to be in at. Any moment in time, it's still ours and it's still the best country. In the world. And I appreciate that you're doing this to help those who have served us, who have kept our country safe. You know, they. They did this. Most of. Them were you know, no one gets drafted anymore and nobody has for many, many. Decades. So these were people that did this. On on purpose and for different reasons. But they did it. It was their. Choice to. Go out and go into. Harm's way for. All of. Us. And now they come back and they've got PTSD and they're. Traumatized and they're committing suicide when they should never. Oh, my gosh. What a wonderful, wonderful program. And I'm so glad. And I'm definitely I am going to be one of the first people after this show is over to go and get your book. And can we learn how to do that while we're on this site as well? Yeah, absolutely.
Rennie Gabriel:
Just go under products and anything you buy through the website, whether it's my UCLA program on buying apartment buildings, whether it's books program that talks about, you know, we'll talk about it later. But there's a nine step roadmap to complete financial choice and philanthropy. Anything that someone buys through the website, 100% of that goes to the charities.
Brian Kelly:
I love. It. And this. So think about this. Everyone that's watching and. Listening, you know what you what you can do with. A strategy like this, not just. For, you know, look, go reward yourself. Go buy something nice for yourself and give yourself that reward. But look at the bigger picture, what you can. Do if you so. Desire, and that is to live the rest of your life helping other people like Renny's Doing what a legacy he is leaving. What a beautiful thing he's doing by helping others. And that's all he's doing right now. And he's he's working hard and he's he's spending his time with me here right now. An hour. He doesn't have to do this. He has he can do anything he wants. He chooses to do. This because that's how he's. Wired. And he's the kind of people you will meet over and over and over again if you get in the right circles. And if you get associated with somebody like Renee, then he's associated and connected with people that are like minded as well. I mean, the person that that got us together, that referred him to me is also very like minded in that regard. And so it's an amazing thing that happens. This is so this. Is the book and it is an audio format. And here we go. Audiobook right on. That's what I'm getting. It's an MP3. I love to listen. It's fun fact. Renee, When I when I was younger, I didn't even know, but I didn't like reading, but only for the the reason that it irritated my eyes. I didn't even know that that was an issue. I just thought I didn't like to read. I read when I had to. I was, you know, near straight-A. In high school and all that good stuff. I had one B my entire high school career, so I had. No problem reading. I just didn't like it. And so when people kept saying, you should. Read, you should read, you should read, I'm like, I don't want to. And I realized after Audible finally came out, that shows my age. But Audible came out and I started listening because a mentor of mine was walking around with headphones and I said, What are you doing? He goes, I'm listening to a book. I said. What? What? You're listening to a book. Tell me about that. And that's how I read all my books now. And I'm like going through them and gangbuster speed and learning a ton from them. And so thank you for putting it in audio. Are you the are you the voice behind the book? I read the book because.
Rennie Gabriel:
If I gave it to someone else, I don't know if they would emphasize the areas that I know need to be emphasized.
Brian Kelly:
Thank you. I'm telling you. Okay? Renny, is it true? We must have been separated at birth with the exact same age. We're twins. Yeah. A brother from another mother. Look at this. Love it. Itty bitty. There. Oh, we're going to go on that in a little bit. Don't want to give away the big secret here, but yeah, write that down, everyone. You see it on the screen. If you're watching. Wealth on any. Income.com and actually just peruse all the links but definitely go to the products because what a great fantastic I mean it's like I see. An ad. On tunnels for towers or something like that. It's like a. Way to. Invest in but you don't get your return isn't of dollars, but it's of knowing that you helped a veteran who was, you know. Physically altered. Due to being in war, meaning they've lost limbs and other things. And it helps buy. Their homes. So I love anything that's related, and that's what this is. This is phenomenal. This is literally saving lives. That is amazing. Not a single person who has received a dog. Has committed suicide. That is unbelievably. Awesome. Man or woman.
Rennie Gabriel:
Didn't make any difference.
Brian Kelly:
So, yeah.
Rennie Gabriel:
Because, you know, I mean, granted, there's more mail there, more men, soldiers than women, but they suffer the same way from combat duty because they're allowed to be on the front lines as well. And the whole reason for this goes back to the Vietnam War, which now I'm dating myself, where, you know, I had high school friends who, you know, went to Vietnam and crawled through rice paddies. And, you know, maybe they came home with a colostomy bag or in a body bag. Meanwhile, I joined the Naval Reserve. I'm sitting on a ship. I'm eating at a table. I'm taking showers and I'm not crawling through rice paddies. I had it really easy during Vietnam when other people I know had it horrible. So, you know, they're out there allowing us the freedoms that we have here and.
Brian Kelly:
I feel I owe.
Rennie Gabriel:
Them so much. And so that's what it's about.
Brian Kelly:
And we all owe you, too, Renee. Thank you for your service. Because I'm of the opinion. It doesn't matter because. Oftentimes you don't get the choice of where you end up getting stationed. And then what? You know, are you in harm's way or not? Sometimes it's just luck of the draw. And then if you are put in artillery right in front of you, the luck of the draw of surviving is it's like I could not imagine what that would be like. I appreciate all of you. It doesn't matter. If if you sat behind a desk in a cushy. Office in the United States during all that, I am still very grateful and thankful to you for making that decision because you contributed to the safety of our country, whether it was putting yourself in danger or not, that doesn't matter to me. I mean, it it does. I don't mean to belittle those that did, but regardless, I am very thankful. And appreciative for it. So thank. You. You're welcome, Brian. Thank you. Yeah. My dad served in the Air Force. He never got into an airplane. He wanted to fail the physical due to some. Like. Visual, visual, weird looking thing. And his pupil he saw perfect. But they said, Nope, you're gone. And so they put him behind a. Desk with a soldering. Iron. And that's what he did. He just did communication equipment. So what I shouldn't say just I shouldn't say that's what he. Did without. That communication. Yeah. Without that communication.
Rennie Gabriel:
Equipment, people could.
Brian Kelly:
Die. Exactly.
Rennie Gabriel:
If they need reinforcements, if they need food, if they need munitions. It's that communication guy who gets that to them.
Brian Kelly:
And isn't it so such a parallel? You say wealth creation is a team sport survival and winning a war is a team sport. Yep. I mean, it's. All part of life. Yeah shows up everywhere. Yeah, that's. That's the one thing I've been lately on a soapbox about is that because I have only recently realized the sheer power and importance of getting help, and about almost two years ago, I got a bona fide virtual assistant full time. Like full time, not just part time. And wow, did it open my eyes in so many different ways. It also gave me a way to breathe, to relax. And people think I don't have the money. I can't afford to. It's like, look, you can't afford not to. Get the help and that I use this. Example all the time. Yeah as an.
Rennie Gabriel:
Example. Okay, Let's say, Brian, that when you're working with people, you're making 100, $200 an hour.
Brian Kelly:
Okay.
Rennie Gabriel:
And you're spending an hour doing bookkeeping work and you could hire a bookkeeper for $35 an hour. So instead of spending $35 an hour for someone to do it, you're spending 150 or $200 an hour to do it. Yeah, that makes no sense.
Brian Kelly:
Exactly. And the other thing I also realized is that once I had help, I used. To before I got help and. I'd had people coming at me left and right for odd jobs that were. Directly related. To my expertise. And I'd have to say no because I'm like, I don't have the bandwidth. I can't do it. Now it's like, wait a minute, I can offload that. Particular. Task. And a lot of it a big portion of to my team, I ask my team, how long is it going to take you? I do the math and then I raise the rate to make a profit. I do very little if any of the work and I make money, I'm like, Oh my God, where was it? Why didn't I do this before? So it. Changes everything. I mean, it only changes everything the way you think. Only that's all Yeah Only Yeah only everything. That's correct. And so now I'm telling folks build systems. Now, even if you're a solopreneur. Put start documenting your processes. Build the SOPs out as if you had a team until you finally pull that trigger. You know, there's no good time. Just like there's no good time to have a kid, no good time to get married. There's no good time for lots of life events because it just gets in the way with your plans. Just do it. Get help. And if you need a resource, a very affordable one that kicks butt for me, reach out to me. I'm not here to sell stuff, but I'm here to help. Just like Rennie. Rennie is like, I'm so blessed. Daniel Aaron, thank you so much. For introducing him. So phenomenal. My goodness. What have we got here? Oh, my God. We're only five minutes out from the end. You've got to be kidding me. Um. Okay. Um. Uh, yeah. Um. So you're serving small businesses and are you coaching them one on one or. Is it basically. Very rarely. Okay. I have.
Rennie Gabriel:
Self-study programs. That's primarily what I'm providing now. Um, I don't do a lot of coaching because it's selling time for dollars and I don't need to do that. But if I'm actually in love with someone and what they're up to and who they are, yes, I'll take them on. But it's. It's not easy for someone to hire me for one on one coaching.
Brian Kelly:
Totally makes sense and I completely get it and respect it both for sure. So that's phenomenal. Uh, let's see. Um. Goodness. Let's talk about a free gift. Yeah wanted to. Get another good hard heading question in in that is. Something that I like to I. Mean there are things that we all go through life. You and I have been on this planet longer than. Most. And during that time we. Make mistakes. And the beautiful thing is as you get older and learn more and become more successful, you learn that making more mistakes more often is actually important because it gets you closer to not making those mistakes anymore. But for you, what would you say would be one? I don't know if we call it a mistake, but something that you used to pivot. To say. I'm not going to do that again. It taught you to go the opposite direction that really had the most impact in your life going forward, whether it's personal or financial. What would be that one thing you say, Gosh, I wish I hadn't done it, but I did. And because of that, I now am doing this and it's caused all this greatness. You've kind of. You've touched on.
Rennie Gabriel:
It. And what it is, is I was in a seminar in my 40s and I think I've got 20 years on you, so no way. Oh, yeah. Uh, I'll be 75 this year.
Brian Kelly:
Holy smoke. Arino.
Rennie Gabriel:
Yeah. So it was a long time ago. I'm in this seminar and. I was a latchkey kid growing up, so there was no point asking for help. There was no parent there to ask help of. So I had this I made, you know, a child makes up stories and I made up the idea that the I'm responsible for myself and no one else is because there's no one else even here. And so that.
Brian Kelly:
Attitude of a five.
Rennie Gabriel:
Year old, don't bother asking for help. You got to do it all yourself. Operating a 40 year old's body is not effective. And I'm in this seminar and I needed help to do a pert chart.
Brian Kelly:
And I asked the people.
Rennie Gabriel:
In the seminar, you know, I need this help. I finally I.
Brian Kelly:
It's broke down from the.
Rennie Gabriel:
Standpoint of saying I'm going to ask for help. I did. And there was only one person in the program who offered to help me, but he happened to have been an engineer with an aerospace company. And what he did for a living was designed pert charts and flow charts.
Brian Kelly:
Wow. And it turned out to be the nicest.
Rennie Gabriel:
Guy in the world. And what I learned is not only is it okay to ask for help, but when you do exactly.
Brian Kelly:
What you.
Rennie Gabriel:
Need will show up. And that was life altering for me being willing to ask for help. That changed everything.
Brian Kelly:
Mhm. It does. And it's what, one word. One word that keeps us all from doing that. It's three letters. Can you guess what it is? That one. Word. Does it start with an E and end with an O? I think you got it. What's the middle letter, then? I'm kidding. Probably a G like Gabriel. Yes, that's right. Yeah. And that's, you know, especially. I don't want to pigeonhole male or female, but that's a big common trait of males, especially females as well. But, you know, we're we're the the provider, the protector. So we have that. Ego and we're all. That. And man, it's hard to break through that thick skull. And it was for me. But I'm telling. You, the second I started letting go of my ego habitually, that's when things started happening. And so it's it's interesting that one of the keys to success is letting go. Yeah. And letting someone. Else and, and be okay with it and trust. There are all sorts. Of great skill sets you. Can learn on how to bring in the right people, how to make sure that they are a fit for you, your. Company, your culture, your values and. All that, and definitely want to make sure you learn all that and put that into into. Practice before it's too late and you waste all your time with that. Individual. Then when you have that person, it's like, Holy, my gosh, It's just. It's ungodly. Wonderful. And it's more fun. It's more fun. You get to work with people. Bounce ideas off of them. And just it doesn't have to all be you. You're the owner of the company. You're the face. It will look like you did it all. You can have that ego for that if you truly need it, but you don't need it. Yeah. No, I. I tell my VA.
Rennie Gabriel:
All the time.
Brian Kelly:
She's smarter than I am. Mm hm. And I always say they never work for me. They work with me. Yeah, always. It's a team. Yeah. And. And, yeah, I love to give them a ownership, if you will. Every task, I say, just here's the minimal. I want a minimal instruction. Now go show me. I don't say go. Show me what you've got as a challenge. I just want to see what they have. And usually they crush it the first time out of the gate because they feel passionate. It's like, I get to do this, all right? And they feel a little bit of ownership in that. So, yeah, let's give away a gift. What do you say? A big prize? Yeah, let's do I usually do the the giveaway first. Let's give yours first. Okay? Yes, come first. You know, like. Ladies first kind of thing.
Rennie Gabriel:
Let's have a nine step roadmap to complete financial choice and philanthropy, which touched on it. If they go to wealth on any income.com/ted and the nine steps comes with 27 pages of explanation of those nine steps. That's the roadmap they're on the right. For those of you who are only listening, when you get to the website, you'll see it and I provide a weekly email to support people in their business with their money, in their relationships, in their psychology, in their mindset. So they get a weekly email every Sunday and they get the roadmap, the explanation. They got my TED talk. They're all set.
Brian Kelly:
I just have two words for you. Thank you.
Rennie Gabriel:
And you're welcome. Thank you for the opportunity to be of service to people.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah And I say that on behalf of not just myself, but everyone who gets the opportunity and the privilege to listen to you and to watch you. Hopefully they're watching on video and this little guy keeps coming out of nowhere. So fantastic. So that is at let's. See, wealth on any income.com/ted and remember the TED all three letters of Ted are. Capitalized the. X is. Lowercase. And oh my gosh I cannot wait to get that road map right after this show is over. So do this after the show. Remember, write it down now because I didn't tell anyone else this, but we like to end every show, Renee, with a very profound and provocative question. I've never used provocative before that. That's just a big word. And it felt good to say. I created.
Rennie Gabriel:
One as soon as you asked it.
Brian Kelly:
You created the question. That's great. Yeah, but it won't be the one I'm going to ask you. Sorry. Oh. Oh, Oh. I thought I had to.
Rennie Gabriel:
Come up with the question.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, that. Would. Hey, you just gave me an idea. That'd be really cool. Um. Did you. You said you just came up with one. Yeah. Okay, I'm game. Ask me, and then I'm still going to close the show asking you that profound question. Okay, Go.
Rennie Gabriel:
Brian, do you deserve to own some of the money you're earning?
Brian Kelly:
I deserve to own all of it.
Rennie Gabriel:
Okay, then you got to pay yourself first.
Brian Kelly:
Yes, sir. I love it. Cool. All right. That was a lot. That was good. Sweet. Like you said. Simple. Short, simple. I love it. The man lives, eats and breathes simple. And that's why he is where he is today. And that's. Phenomenal. Uh, real quick, I did promise everyone how they could win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort, and then we'll get to that last question. But I do like to keep to my promises and do it within our allotted time. We're a little bit over, but that's okay. I'm not paying for studio time. That's a beautiful part about it. And that is for everyone watching live, what you want to do is write this down, what I'm about to put up on the screen and then after the show is over, we'll still monitor and look for entries and we'll choose a winner. You will be notified automatically through email. So here it is. Get ready, pen and paper or notepad or whatever you use to take notes with. Get it ready. Here it is on the screen. What you want to do is write this down. Go to report forward slash vacation. Yes, that is a web address report, M forward slash vacation. And yes, it does work. It's all lowercase. And there's where you enter to win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort in any area of the world that you choose. You saw the wonderful display. Of all those choices earlier. In the show. I'm not going to go over those again now because I can't wait for this question. I hope. Renny, I hope you're ready. I got you. I hope you got your A-game there, brother, because this question can be a little bit personal. But here's the thing. The beautiful thing. About this question is there is no such thing as a wrong answer. Yeah, we'll see. It's impossible. I love it. I love it. In fact, the exact opposite is the truth is, the. Only correct answer will be yours. And that's because it's pertinent to you. And that's the only thing that makes it personal. It's nothing like getting deep into your personal life. It's just it will come out as you. To your core, your values. And it will be you and it will be beautiful and it'll be. Correct because there's no wrong answer. So with. All that. Are you ready? Hope so. All right, here we go. Rennie Gabriel. How do you. Define. Success.
Rennie Gabriel:
By having a family that loves you, that you're connected to having a wife, having children, having grandchildren, all of whom are celebrating in life and doing well, That's success.
Brian Kelly:
Um. Short to the point. Simple as usual. I love it. And I love you like a brother. I appreciate you very much, Renee, for coming on, spending your valuable time with all. Of us here tonight. And if you. Have one parting word, I don't mean literally of wisdom to provide those out there who are struggling, who are looking to figure it out, to get out of the rat race, to just make ends meet and start climbing out of whatever situation they're in. Is there one thing you can think that can get them that jump start. To move. Forward in their life and have a happier, more prosperous life so they can serve others?
Rennie Gabriel:
Have people around you that you respect who are far enough down the road and mingle with them, connect with them, stay with them. Learn from them.
Brian Kelly:
That guy right there, Rennie. That's the one. Yes. So go to his website. Go and get his courses. Absorb it. He's done it. He's been there. He's done that. Get his roadmap. You saw that earlier. A wonderful gift. And donate. Buy his book from his website. Yes, you can get it from Amazon, but if you get it straight from Amazon, the donation won't make it to where he has got it designated to go because it goes to Amazon. So get it. From his website. I'm going to I'm getting the audible. Book and I'm going to do that before this evening's over. And I highly. Recommend you all. Do the same thing. And I appreciate. You, Rennie, to no end. You have no idea. You're a blessing in my life now. You know, they say you can you can choose your friends, but you can't choose your family. And the bad news for you. Is you are now family. Thank you, Brian. I'm glad to be a member.
Rennie Gabriel:
Of your family.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, thank. You. Thank you. And I will call you brother. Definitely. There is no way you're 75 or getting close to it. No freaking way. You are. Yeah. Yeah. I feel a lot of people.
Rennie Gabriel:
1948 was a birth year.
Brian Kelly:
You're an inspiration on so many fronts. And that is yet. Another one. So thank you. You've obviously taken good care of yourself and. Thank you for being a great shining example in every way forward. I mean, you've you've admitted making mistakes in your life. We all have. We've all made them. But you did it publicly. You know, it's in your bio. I wouldn't say it's your mistake and yours alone. Divorce isn't done by one person. It's all that stuff. Thank you for being transparent, for being raw, for being real, and for sharing your wisdom with us here tonight. I cannot tell you how grateful I am. Thank you, my friend. My pleasure.
Rennie Gabriel:
Thank you again for the opportunity, Brian.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, my. It was the pleasure was all mine. All right, we've got to close this bromance down at some point. And so with that, I want to say on the on behalf of the amazing Renny Gabriel, I am your host, Brian Kelly. Of the Mind Body Business show. And we will be back again next week, as we always are, with another fantastic guest. Don't know. They have a lot to live up to now. We're going to see you. That's going to be. But until then, everyone do two things. Number one, go out and crush it so you can serve more people. And number two, above all. Else, please be blessed. That's it for me. That's it for Renny. Take care for now. We'll see you again next time. So long. Thank you for tuning in to the Mind Body Business show podcast at the www.TheMindBodyBusinessShow.com. My name is Brian Kelly.
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After two divorces and a business failure Rennie went from broke at age 50 to multi-millionaire after learning the three secrets of the wealthy (despite failing high school math). Rennie is a TEDx speaker and he now donates 100% of the profits from his online programs to rescue dogs and soldiers. His award winning, best-selling book, Wealth On Any Income has been translated into eight languages.
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Narrator :
So, here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us, who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back. Who are dedicated, determined, and driven. How do we finally break through and win? That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Brian Kelly, and this is The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show.
Brian Kelly:
Hello, everyone, and welcome, welcome, welcome to The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Super excited for tonight's show. We have not just one, not two, not three, but four, four amazing guest experts who are joining me tonight right here on this very stage.
Brian Kelly:
They are waiting in the wings at this moment. So let's get busy. Shall we? The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show, that is a show about what I call the three pillars of success, and that came about as a result of my study of only successful people in the last decade or so. And these patterns kept bubbling to the top and those patterns being mine, which is mindset set. Each and every successful person, to a person, had a very powerful and flexible mindset. So I learned that and said," I need to implement that". Then body: body is about literally taking care of yourself. Through nutrition and through exercise, exercising on a regular basis, and again that was another pattern of very successful people and in business. These successful people had mastered the skill-sets that were necessary to create, maintain, and grow a thriving business. They're wide and varied. It's like marketing, sales, team-building, systematizing. It goes on and on and on, leadership. There's no one person, in my humble opinion, that could master every single one of these. All you have to do is master just one, and I actually mentioned one of those. It was in that list. I don't know if anyone caught that, but if you master just one of those skill sets then you're good to go. That skill set is leadership. When you've mastered the skill set of leadership, you can then delegate those skills off to people who have those skill sets. See where I'm going? Good. That's what successful people do; the ones that I studied, anyway, over the course of about 10 years. That's what this show's about. It's a show for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs. I got four guests waiting, and I'm not going to wait any longer. So, I think we should just bring them on. What do you think? Let's do it.
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Brian Kelly:
And there they all are. These amazing, beautiful guests on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. How are you all doing? Altogether, too. That was phenomenal, I love that. So real quick. All of you, I hope you don't mind for just a moment. I want to do some housekeeping? I wanted to mention to everyone watching here live. If you stay with us till the end, you can win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. All compliments of our friends at The big insider secrets dotcom. You see them flying by on the bottom of the screen right now. It's an amazing, amazing vacation stay. Stay until the end, and you'll learn how you can enter to win that wonderful prize. We also have this. If you're struggling with putting on a live show, and it's overwhelming and you want a lot of the processes done for you while still enabling you to put on a high-quality show. And connect with great people like the ones we have tonight, and to grow your business all at the same time, then head on over to carpet bomb marketing dotcom. Carpet bomb marketing, saturate the marketplace with your message. One of the key components that is contained in the carpet bomb marketing courses, and this is one that you'll learn how to absolutely master, is the very service we use to stream our live shows right here on The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Over the course of the past, now it's over nine years, we have tried many of these, "TV studio solutions" for live streaming. I'll tell you right now, Stream Yard is the best of the best. It combines supreme ease of use along with unmatched functionality. So, go ahead. You can start streaming high-quality, professional live shows for free. Yes, I said it. For free, with Stream Yard right now. Visit this website, and do this after the show over. Take notes while the show is going. So write this down R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. R-Y-P dot I-M forward-slash stream live. Fantastic. Now let's get to the real fun, and the fun is these amazing people. Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. How are you all doing tonight? Thank you for being on this amazing show. Yes. So, what I'd like to do is open it up. Let the folks get to know you just a little bit now. Ok, guys. We're talking sixty seconds or less. All right. Just lay it low here, but we'll just go and order. I usually go ladies first, but let's just go around the circle. It's easier for me who's running the show. So. That's what's important. Right? So, let's start with Dylan Shinholser. Go ahead. Take it away. Give us a little brief background about you, what you do, and your business.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. So like I said, my name is Dylan Shinhoser. I own a couple of different businesses. I'm owner of a company called, "Experience Events", which is event management. I'm also a director of business development at a virtual event, event ticketing, and virtual event platform called, "ViewStub". As well as a co-host of another show called, "Event Masters", where I just ramble all day, every day about how to produce better experiences. It's really all I know and love to do is events. That is my less than 60-second pitch about myself.
Brian Kelly:
That's a good one, too. I'll tell everybody I've spoken with you in person. We had a call some time ago, and this gentleman, Dylan, is made of integrity and great character. So, reach out to him if you need any assistance in any of the areas he talked about, or if you just want to say hi to a really great guy. Then get in contact with him, and at the end of the show, we'll go through that. Please. Somebody remind me if I forget how to contact each of you. Because that's very important to me. This is the reason I bring this show to the forefront. (It) is to bring people like you into the lives of those who may not know who you are yet, and even those that do, to experience even more of your brilliance, your experience, your knowledge, and your value. It's not about me. This is about you. Always, always. Every time. I have one guest, usually. I just feel like I'm in this big family right now. But let's keep moving. Julie Riley, amazing young woman. Take it away.
Julie Riley:
Yes. So, I am Julie Riley. I am the social media manager at StreamYard. The platform we're using right now. Prior to my time with StreamYard, I owned my own marketing agency. I've been in digital marketing since two thousand and seven. So the very, very early days of the start of it is when I jumped in(to) digital marketing, and I love just being able to help others succeed in their business.
Brian Kelly:
Fantastic, and I will also say that I have spoken with Julie in the past. Both through a typewritten chat form and verbally. I think it was Clubhouse first time, which was phenomenal. Yet another phenomenal person, incredible integrity, and character. And yes, you're going to notice there's a pattern about this with the remaining two. It's the same thing. Hopefully, we can get the last one to talk a little bit. That will be nice. I'm just having fun because we were having fun before the show started. The one smiling. The biggest down there with the green hood; not pointing anyone out or anything. Thank you, Julie, for coming on. Yes. These people, Julie and Christian specifically, I know Christians coming up here in second. They're non-stop. They don't stop working. It's evident because of the very software research we're using right now. It's of grand quality for a reason. It's because of people like Julian Christian who keep everything rolling smoothly on the back end. Dylan's there nodding his head emphatically because he gets it. It's a lot of work, and they're doing it masterfully and we appreciate you. All right. Enough of the favoritism here that felt like favoritism. Julie's our favorite. Timothy McNeely! My buddy, my friend from just a little north of where I reside. I believe. If I remember.
Timothy McNeely:
Central California, baby. Bakersfield. Yeah, my name is Tim McNeely. Today, so many dentists and driven entrepreneurs are just not sure if they're getting advice that really makes a difference for them. They may have a financial adviser who is giving them some advice on their investment portfolio, but they're not really sure that they're on the right track to really maximize their net worth outside of their business. That's what I help them do. Maximize your net worth so that you can keep taking care of the people you love, support the causes you care about, really make that difference in the world, and build an amazing life of significance. I love doing streaming because I get to talk to some of the best of the best out there and share the knowledge with the beautiful entrepreneurial community.
Brian Kelly:
I'll tell you something on a personal note as well. Literally, we talked earlier today, Tim and I, on a Zoom call. He just reached out to me and said, "let's catch up." I had him on the show some time ago as a single, solo guest, and he was phenomenal. We've just kind of maintained a relationship, a friendship ever since. He just wanted to reach out and say, "Hi" and "What's up? What do you want to talk about?" We just started talking about business and things. He gave me resources that will help me in my business, and hopefully, I reciprocated it somehow. I don't know if I did, but it is the people like Tim, like Julie, like Dylan, like Christian. That is the cloth that they are all cut from. They are here to help people. That's why I love entrepreneurs. I love all of you. I mean it. I do. I love you. You guys are amazing. I didn't even get a crack at a Christian on that one. Jeez, I mean... there we go. That's a little better, but I'm telling you, he's working on StreamYard our stuff right now as we're on the show. I mean, I'm.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm really trying not to, seriously.
Brian Kelly:
The founder Geige Vandentop. If you ever watch this, there's a message to you. Ease up on your people. Alright? Just having fun. Alright, Timothy, you're an amazing guy. Thank you for spending your valuable time and coming on here. As well as Dylan, Julie, and the ever so talkative one, Christian. I'm not going to attempt to say your last name. I'll let you take care of that one. Welcome to the show, Christian. Let's hear all about your brilliance.
Christian Karasiewicz:
Sure. Thanks a lot for having me. My name is Christian Kerasiewicz. I'm the content marketing manager at StreamYard. So, pretty much anything you see on our blog that we're going to soon be launching. I'm the mastermind behind that. So, I do that. In addition to that, I also host live stream reviews, a YouTube show. We also do on the StreamYard YouTube channel where we invite people on to talk about their live streams and help them work through some of their problems, some of their challenges that they might be having with getting community or building a show. Thanks a lot for having me. I appreciate it.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, my gosh. Thank you again, Christian, for your time and being here. I mean, he's literally building a blog while on a live show. I mean, that's a great thing. I'm not even kidding with this one. That is phenomenal. That is showing such dedication. So, it's more than that. It's passion. It's love. You know? What time is that where you are, Christian?
Christian Karasiewicz:
About 9 o'clock, or yeah... about 9 o'clock.
Brian Kelly:
(Nine o'clock) PM. Ladies and gentlemen, in case you're watching this recording. Yes. By the way, I'm going to be on twenty-five different platforms after this is over. So no pressure, but don't mess up. I'm just kidding. So, this is a phenomenal group of people, and I can't wait to dig in. Christian, just what you just said, what you do is right down the alley of what I was hoping to talk about tonight. It'll go organically, but I wanted to talk about... I mean, look at Julie, and look at Christian, and look at their images. Look at their video. It is gorgeous. Here, we'll start with a really gorgeous one first. Look at that. I mean. If there were nose hairs that weren't in place, we'd see them. That's phenomenal, and there is Julie. Wow. Very beautiful. Even more beautiful. I should just have her up like this all the time, and we can just talk in the background. Because, you know, maybe more people would come on. So, you guys have phenomenal camera setups, and here's one thing I always like to preach to those who are getting into the live streaming game. Does it take money? Yes, it does. It takes resources. It takes cameras, microphones, (a) computer, internet, good internet, fast internet, lighting, doesn't have to be fancy. What I always say though, is, do the best you can with the resources you currently have. OK, I wanted to start it off that way because what we're about to talk about with Julie and Christian is their cameras. They are top of the line. We're not talking a one-hundred or two-hundred-dollar webcam here. I like to let ladies go first. So, Julie, do you have a story when you first turned on your new camera versus when you had the webcam and what that looked like and felt like.
Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh, I turned that camera on, and it was immediately noticeable (the difference). I actually did a live on my personal Facebook page where I logged myself in as a second user into StreamYard. I had my Logitech camera that I had been using up as a camera and then had my new one. So, I could do back and forth and show everybody the difference between the two. What an upgrade that was. The Logitech served me great for years. It didn't stop me from going live, but that upgrade was immediately like, "oh, I can never go back down now".
Brian Kelly:
So, that so that is one thing. Let's say you're on the road, and I can imagine at some point both you and Christian, maybe, you'll be sent on the road to maybe support conventions and things that are on the road. Now, you want to stream live, what are you going to do then?
Julie Riley:
Well, you know, the great thing about the Sony is (that) it's a small camera. Tripods, portable ones, are small. I can take it with me. If all else fails, and I'm either on my phone or I'm on my little webcam or even my built in webcam, it's not going to stop me from going live. Is it going to be exactly what I want? No, but more than likely I'll have the Sony with me.
Brian Kelly:
Thank you for saying that. I mean, that spoke such volumes. I hope people are taking notes that are watching. Definitely take notes on this. Because, look, the show must go on. That's what I say, and this show tonight is the result of a guest who unfortunately was ill and could not make it on. So, I scrambled and found these four wonderful people to say, "I'll come on and do a panel with you." And that's it. The show must go on, and I'm going to either do it with people or I'll do it solo. It doesn't matter. Consistency is key, and we can talk more about that, too. I love how you're just talking about, Julie. Where, look, I don't care where I'm at. If I've got something and it's my time to go live, and I don't have my gear. I'm doing it.
Julie Riley:
Right.
Brian Kelly:
I love that commitment. So, thank you for that. For everyone listening, that's important. Yes, quality is important. Like I said, do the best you can with what resources you currently have. That includes, wherever you are. You may have a DSL camera that Julie paid five-hundred thousand dollars for. Oh, sorry, it wasnt that much.
Julie Riley:
Thank God it wasnt that much!
Brian Kelly:
What was the model of that again?
Julie Riley:
A6000.
Brian Kelly:
What does it run about?
Julie Riley:
It was about seven hundred.
Brian Kelly:
OK, not too bad. A little bit less than five-hundred thousand. Not much but yeah.
Julie Riley:
Yeah.
It's a phenomenal thing, and I love that that's your attitude toward commitment. I'll tell you. You have a similar attitude...anytime I go and ask for support through the back side of StreamYard community. I mean, like through messaging. When I say the backside, that's sounded weird. When I ask for support, you're always there. I mean, you don't sleep, and I appreciate that. So, keep not sleeping for everybody's sake. Christian, you do the same. So, Christian, what about you? When you made that initial change from whatever camera you had before to this unbelievably clear one year look you're working with right now. What did that feel like the moment you saw a difference?
Christian Karasiewicz:
So, it's very interesting actually. So, this is actually what I was using before. I've been using this for quite a number of years. This is a Logitech Brio. It does do 4K. I invested in this one and eventually came out, and the quality was fantastic. The only thing was, though. I wanted to scale. So this was great for traveling, for example. This is what I took around with me. Super portable. It's got the ability to put it on a tripod. Fantastic, but it did not allow me to scale, so I had to always take up another USB port and all that sort of thing. When I moved to the Sony, the Sony looked very good. I will say the one thing you have to do, though, is you need to go through the settings. There are a few adjustments you want to change. That's what's going to actually enhance your picture quality of it. It's a fantastic camera. It's a Sony 6400. Then, really, the other side to it is also the lens. So I'm using a Sigma lens. So, that I think is the real big difference. I mean you have the kit lenses it comes with. I did make the investment in the the additional lens, which I think that's actually what's contributing to why it looks so good. I will say from a quality standpoint, again, start with what you have. You know, the key things for live streaming. Audio is going to be your most important part. Then also, if you, for example, are using one of these webcams, make sure you have enough light. These things look great with a lot of light. When you don't have a lot of light, you're going to see pixelation. You're going to see distortion and things like that. So, turn it back to you.
Brian Kelly:
Especially with light, if you turn on the green screen feature, you really need to have good lighting then. That's the biggest time. I'm so glad to be liberated from that. Even though I loved it. This is actually a natural well behind me. I painted the entire studio. I actually occupy my daughter's former bedroom. I've been here for four or five years now, and I finally got rid of the cartoon drawings and the yellow paint. I'm a real boy now. I have a real studio. This is awesome.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That looks really good by the way. I was very surprised (by) your background because that looks like one of the standard backgrounds people would normally bring up during a live stream. One that has, you know, the gradient going around the outside. So, whoever did the painting on that fantastic job.
Brian Kelly:
Why, thank you very much. My wife did most of the work to be honest, but I feel like that helps with that. Yeah.
Timothy McNeely:
If you want that comparison between cameras. Right. Christine was just talking about the Logitech Brio. That's what I'm on, and you can see the massive quality difference between Kristen and Julie versus the webcam. So. Right. (A) huge step up.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, we'll point that out in glowing detail right now.
Christian Karasiewicz:
You're using a green screen. Right?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
Your sound, Christian, is smooth. I mean, you have a great radio voice. Having that microphone, I think will pivot to that too. Dylan, what are your thoughts on cameras? Yours looks actually really decent right now? You're on (a) green screen, correct?
Dylan Shinholser:
Correct. Yeah.
Brian Kelly:
It looks really clean. You've done a good job with all the lighting. It's almost like you've done this before, and you know what you're doing.
Dylan Shinholser:
I try. Yeah. So, I actually when I first started doing it, I started listening back on my phone. When this whole pandemic hit, I was using the one inside your laptop and realized very quickly (that) I'm on calls all day, live streaming shows and stuff. I was like, "I got to set my game up." So, I haven't made that leap yet to the DSLR, but I will. I'm on a Logitech, one of the models. I won't even lie because I'm not that tech-savvy. It was expensive for Logitech, so I bought it. I was like, "it's got to work." So, yeah. So, that's where I'm at. I agree heavily. I think it comes down to, because we get asked it and I know you guys get asked, it comes down to what you can afford at the moment. Then always trying to push the limits of production value. Right? My background was a wall. It was just like random yellow wall, and now I have a giant green screen wallpaper now. So, now, I can be wherever I want which is a concert. That's where I want to be, and that's where I'm going to be.
Brian Kelly:
You're the one on the stage, brother. Not the audience.
Dylan Shinholser:
No, I'm actually the guy behind the stage. I never want to be this. It's actually weird for me to be in front of people. I'm the guy behind the stage telling people to get on the stage.
Brian Kelly:
Pushing them forward. Well, you do a good job, Dylan. I wouldn't know any different. Maybe your calling is to step out from behind and be on front more often.
Dylan Shinholser:
We will see. Twenty twenty-one has a lot of stuff, and I've got a long way to go. I got super bored in twenty-twenty so I might as well talk.
Brian Kelly:
I've gotten to know you a little bit over time, and you've got a great personality. I think you need to shine in front of more people. That's my humble opinion.
Dylan Shinholser:
I appreciate that.
In the front, not behind the scenes. It's okay to be behind the scenes on occasion, but someone like you with your personality and your integrity, your character...get out there, buddy. It's a disservice if we don't get to see you. Let me put it that way.
That's what a mentor of mine said. He was like, "dude, you're actually being selfish by not talking more and getting it out." Because like I said at the beginning, I only want to help more people create better experiences and events. Make them flow better and make them more money as humanly possible. At the end of the day, I just want to travel the world with cool people and do cool things. I've learned a lot, and a lot of people need some of that experience. So, I got a stern talking to by one of my mentors. He was like, "dude..." I was like, "alright, it's alright. I promise." I started live streaming then had to get better cameras, better lights going on. It's crazy up here in my little command center of all these different lights, webcams, and monitors. Everything you need to do to pull these shows off.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I love it. Christian, go ahead.
Christian Karasiewicz:
So, I want to throw something in there real quick. We talked about various types of cameras. If you're just getting started, use that built-in laptop, the webcam. So then you can take it up a notch. You can go to the Logitech. The C922. That's about, I think, a 60 to 70 dollar webcam. So, don't overpay by the way. It's about 60 to 70 dollars. Get it from Logitec, probably. If you find an astronomical price on Amazon, move up to like the Brio, for example. If your budget allows it, that's about one hundred fifty dollar camera. Then move up to a DSLR. For example, Julie's got that, the Sony 6000. I would also say if you happen to have a smartphone, this can be used as a webcam. Essentially, if you think about it, this is a thousand dollar camera. Because you paid a thousand dollars for this device of sorts, and this will give you some phenomenal picture quality. If you already have a smartphone and you don't have to have the latest iPhone, it could be pretty much any iPhone and Android phone. You just need an app such as one called,"Camo." There's one called,"Erion." So, there are lots of apps out there. Don't think like, "hey, I have to now go drop a bunch of money." Look at the phones you have lying around. Those are going to be great ways to fix your picture quality.
Julie Riley:
I've been going live since 2015, and I only had this camera last year.
Brian Kelly:
That's it. You keep reinvesting. I had a good friend of mine who were business partners. He said, I'll never forget it,"sales drive service". When you're making money, you're able to invest. You're able to up your game, and I love that. So many great points. You can just set a phone on a tripod and your camera will look better than many people's webcams. For sure. One of the things that I would recommend, this isn't just a plug StreamYard, is to get at least get the free plan. Do they need any more than the free plan to be part of the community, Julie?
Julie Riley:
No. They can come to join the community even if they're just getting started into streaming. We do like everybody to have the free plan so they have an understanding, but we'll still let you in. Agree to the rules. That's the big thing. Yeah, come join the StreamYard community. It's really a "stream yard" community.
Brian Kelly:
It's a very valuable place because questions like what Christian just addressed are often asked (What do I need?). I'm just starting. I'm a newbie. I see that so much in there. What can you do to help with a camera or microphone or computer? You can go there if you have those questions and ask, and the community will fill in the blanks wonderfully well because they're a great bunch of people. Just like Tim down there who's gotten pushed to the side for a while. So, Tim, is this your first camera that you've been using for live streaming so far? Did you have one before it?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah, right. I started with just an HD one. Right. Logitech and then jumped up to the Brio. Been happy with that so far. But, you know, it's interesting how the game keeps growing again. That's the thing, right? Just get started! Just do this. I started with just using zoom and recording those for my interviews, and then I realized (that) I need a better platform. I need a way to kind of do that live production. Now I'm doing Stream Yard and got intros. Just get started with whatever you've got and kind of build that proof of concept. You know, I recently just upgraded my lights because I bought the cheapest lights I could at first. I just wanted to do something, and done is better than not done a lot of times.
Brian Kelly:
I totally agree with everything you just said and like what Christian was saying. If you're going to put money into anything, make it the audio side of things first when you upgrade. I was fortunate. I started over nine years ago streaming live. This is a DSLR. Not a DSLR. Good grief, XLR microphone. It's old school. It's not even USB. So I plug it into a mixer board, and from there into my computer. I've used it for years. It's been just amazing. I've never had to do anything with my sound as a result. For you, there are great USB alternatives now. Oh my gosh, there are so many out there. Someone like Christian could probably point you in the right way. Someone like the StreamYard community could push you in the right way and tell you,"these are the ones". I have a connection with the guy who is a sound expert. I've never heard of this before. He has a studio that does 4D sound. I don't even know what that means. Four dementional?
Christian Karasiewicz:
Sweet.
I don't know what that means, audibly. He was telling me about speakers in the ceiling. I'm like, holy moly,. You don't need that obviously for a talk show like this, but think about the possibilities and have fun with it. The bottom line is, when you go on and go live. Enjoy yourself. I'm trying to do that a little bit with these fine people tonight. Thankfully, they're still here with me. I haven't upset them too great, especially Christian. I keep picking on him. Poor guy. I appreciate you all, and it's okay to have fun on your show. Would you guys agree with that? Is it okay to have a little bit of fun?
Julie Riley:
One hundred percent. If you're having fun, your audience is going to be having fun with you.
If you're not having fun... I don't believe in doing anything that I don't find fun. It's a life motto of mine. If I don't want to do it, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Like you said, Julie. If you're not having fun with it, then how in the world do you expect the viewers to want to have fun or engage or interact? It starts with you.
Brian Kelly:
Absolutely, absolutely. One of the things I wanted to pivot to is something I'm deeply interested in because the product that came up earlier when I did the quick ads spot. I like to solve the pain points that people are having in their live streaming experiences. I'm curious. I'll bet, Julie and Christian, you guys have seen and heard a lot about that. I actually had a team member of mine from my company put a poll up in the form of a meme, a graphic. What's the right word? I am having trouble with words these days. It's an infograph. That's it. Simple. I was a little bit shocked by the result, but I was just curious what you guys think. What are the biggest pain points you're seeing? (Either) that you're having individually. Tim, if you have that as well. Dylan as well. Dylan, you probably hear about a bunch of it as well. What are the pain points you are seeing come back over and over and over again? I'm having a horrible time trying to find another guest on my show if they're interview style, or the tech is just blowing my mind. Even though StreamYard is so simple. I'm having trouble with x, y, z. Let's just go around the horn. Dylan, if you don't mind, I put you on the spot. Can you think of any of those pain points that keep coming up over and over again?
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, absolutely. The biggest thing I see is they underestimate what it does take. I totally agree. Why I promote StreamYard to our clients and everyone I possibly can is because of the ease of use. People go into it and think shows are just like setting up the webcam, and they can be. Setting up the webcam and just talking. Right? There's a lot of back end stuff to this. These shows and I'm learning that as doing my own now. I'm like, holy cow, I'm about to hire fifteen people because this is absurd. But, yeah. I think that's the biggest thing that I see is underestimating it, but also at the same time, they overcomplicate it. They have to think (that) they have to have all these bells and whistles and seventeen thousand cameras and two million dollar microphones. It goes back to our first point of "just do it". It doesn't need to be overcomplicated, but understand going into it, there is some work that takes and understand that you do have to respect what it takes to put these on. At the same time, don't overcomplicate it. It's funny how people work. They overestimate or underestimate it, but then heavily overcomplicate it at the same time. I think that's the biggest one I see.
Brian Kelly:
I'm so glad you brought that up. I've said this so many times, people don't realize what goes on behind the scenes before the show even comes on live for that episode. The amount of time and effort. If you want to do a live show that's of quality and represent yourself and your brand in a way that you want it to be represented professionally. It takes a good amount of work for every single show. That's why I automated nearly every process (that) I use now. It took time to get there, but you can use a team. You can get a team. Like you said, Dylan, to also help out. For me, it's all about quality, and more time is spent before the show by far than the show itself. After the show is over, another good deal of time is spent. That is in the minor edits, the repurposing, the marketing, and everything else that goes beyond. The live show is this tiny window of time, and it's the fun is part of it by the way. When you have everything automated, the rest is not "not fun" because you're not doing it. It's all automated, but definitely great. Thank you for that. Julie, what has been some of the big p.. sorry to wake you up there. What have been some of the big pain points? You are wide awake. I just starttled you. You've seen over and over, I bet you've seen a bunch of them.
Julie Riley:
Oh, my gosh. So many, you know, especially because I'm approving all of the comments that are coming into the group. I think one of the huge ones is that the hesitation of people who believe that they have to have everything perfect. That they have to have all of the backdrops, the overlays, the banners, the super expensive microphone, and the super expensive camera. That they have it. The room behind them is messy. They haven't thought about turning to just a blank wall because they're like, "well, then I don't have a fancy studio set up." They get to this point where they're trying to create perfection, and perfection is a fairy tale. It doesn't exist. There is no such thing as perfection. There is, again, where Dylan said the overcomplicating it. They've got to really just slow down and go, "what do I need to get this process going?" What is the minimum to make it happen? From there, then I can then build on it, and build on it each week. Go, "okay, I got live. I got the first one out. I got the jitters out. I hate the way I sound." When I had my agency, I would tell my clients. They'd be like, "I can't stand the way I sound." I'm like, nobody likes the way (that) they sound. There's actually, and I say this all the time, there's a term for it that is a term for not liking the sound of your own voice. I tell people, you have to get over that fear. They're like,"I don't look good on camera, I don't know how to be on camera." The other thing I tell people is to set up a fake Facebook group with nobody else in it but you. Go live in there a bunch of times and just get those jitters out. Get that feeling of pressing the button and going live. Then invite your husband in, your sister, your mother, or whoever. Somebody so that you're talking to somebody. From there, build up each time. As we said with the cameras, again, you can you can slowly build. You can slowly add in the overlays. You can slowly add in the backgrounds.
Brian Kelly:
My goodness! I absolutely love it. I have my own Facebook group that I use just for that. Nothing more. I go in there, and I test things for StreamYard and other things in there. I go live in there because there's no substitute for going live. We've got more buttons to click, and things kind of change their arrangement just a little bit in the window. If you practiced it 20 times without going live, then you go live you're going to go, "what the heck just happened?" I don't know what I'm supposed to do now. That was perfect. Perfect advice. I love that. We've got a comment coming in or two or three. Yeah. Kelly, crucial. Kruschel. Sorry if I got that wrong.
Dylan Shinholser:
Kelly Kruschel. It's Kruschel. She said she's on my team. She's a friend. Hey, we've got a supporter.
Brian Kelly:
Love it. Love it. Then Fran Jesse, I know her. I'm getting ready to make my first video essentially input. Yeah. Reach out, Fran. We're friends. I will give you assistance in any way you want because this is the greatest this is the greatest avenue for media on the planet, in my humble opinion, for so many reasons. One is people get to see you. I love clubhouse. It's also phenomenal in different ways, but people get to see you. They get to interact with you. They can engage with you, and they get to see your essence. It doesn't cost you, the studio owner, studio time. If you do this in the old days when you have to go to a television studio and you want to do a show, it would cost you thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars just to use the studio. Let alone get the media time to put it up on a television station. We're living in wonderful times. It's the greatest time to be alive, in my humble opinion. I'm a tech geek. I'm not young anymore. I'm fifty six, but I can't wait for the rest of what my life has to hold. Yes. You're welcome, Fran. Any time. Wonderful. Wonderful. Alright. Where were we? I got all messed up and loving myself there. We're going to have fun. I'm being real. This is like... I don't know. I'm the most relaxed (that) I've been in a long time with everything that went on today. It was one of those weird, everything-going crazy days. I feel like I'm at home with you guys. That's why.
Dylan Shinholser:
It's been one of those years.
Brian Kelly:
Thank God that last one is over.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, yeah. Sure.
Brian Kelly:
So, okay. Pain point. Let's go back around one more. Tim, what do you have?
Timothy McNeely:
Yeah. When I first started doing this, my whole goal was to get out there and to talk to the different experts in the different areas of the challenges that my my clients face. I started off as an interview show and just using Zoom to record the video. Then all of a sudden I had the video. Now I had to put an intro in. I had to put an exit in. I had to extract the audio so I could do the podcast. My team members and myself were spinning our wheels. Just trying to really kind of create a workflow around the creation of this content so we could get the message out and help people with their challenges. For me, all of a sudden, the revelation was (that) I can do this live. I can have people type in (and) ask comments as I'm doing the show. Not only that, from start to finish, I can produce the whole thing going live. Right? You go live. You can play an intro now. You can throw in little commercial breaks. You can throw in the outro, and then it's done. Download the audio. You throw it up, and now you've got your podcast. You don't have to upload video to YouTube and Facebook and LinkedIn. It's done for you now, automatically. So really my biggest pain point was just the production side of things and putting everything together so that I could keep talking to people and doing the fun part. Right? I don't want to get caught up in all the details of making this. I want to talk to people, learn, and share that knowledge. Really, a lot of the pain point, just using StreamYard has really been absolved because it's a turn-key easy to use platform.
Brian Kelly:
Amen to all of that brother. Here's the key for everyone that's ever going to do a live show or has done one. The most important part is that you show up and you be the talent. That means you need to be dedicated mentally toward what the task is at hand. If I have too many things going on, like production-wise, which I used to when I didn't automate things. That's in the back of my mind. Did I dot every "i"? Did I cross every "t"? What's going to screw up on this show? Versus showing up fully for my guest. Being there for them. Getting out of myself and my own business and being present for the other person, that's what I'm about. Lifting up the other people, that's what my show's about. It's important to me.
Timothy McNeely:
Actually, if I can touch on that talent piece, Brian? I think he brought something up so important for everyone listening to this. If you're doing any kind of a show where you're interviewing people, chances are (that) the person you're talking to (is) a little bit uncomfortable. Your job, as the talent, is to spend some time before the show really crafting what it's going to look like. What direction are you going to go in? You want to make that person you're talking to look like a star. The more you can rehearse with them and put them at ease, you're going to end up with a much, much better show. Because you've taken a little bit of time to make sure that (the) other person is going to shine just as bright as you do. So, take that time to work with your guests beforehand through interview guides, through little questionnaires. So that you can help prep them, to keep them on a thread, and you can really help them deliver their message. Most people are not trained professional speakers. They just aren't. I've hired some of the best speaking coaches to help me develop messages, stay on topic, and learn how to tell stories. People don't invest time, energy, and effort to do that. You can help them do that through a briefing before you start your live with them.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah. That's why I was saying before, I do a thirty-minute preshow. All of us were on here for 30 minutes getting to know each other, making sure all the tech was good, doing some checkout. You were talking about people being nervous and stuff. That's why I'm riding Christian so hard with all these jokes and stuff because it broke his nervousness. You can see his sweating. I am so kidding. This guy's raw. He's a rock. He's awesome. He's a pro. I love this guy, man. I always pick on the quiet ones. I don't know why that is. Christian, man, you're bringing massive value. All kidding aside, you're very experienced. You're matched for what you do. You've said already so many amazing things. What about you, brother?
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'd say this. I think a couple of the pain points. I think one is people want to ask, "how do I get better at my live stream?" I think (that) the first thing is practice. To Julie's point, I think you mentioned having overlays, backgrounds, and all this other stuff. Look at it like this. You want to show your audience as well while you're helping them. You're doing this with them. You have everything at the same time, and you're trying to make everything perfect. Your audience is going to be like, "I'm not going to stick around this person because they've done such a good job already. I won't ever get to that point". They start having that self-doubt. The key thing is going to be practice. You don't have to have every single one of the overlays. Maybe start with the the intro or the thumbnail, and maybe you have an outro for example. (Those are) the first two things you do. As you build the show, then you can add segment graphics. You can add videos. So, you can scale it, but you don't have to have so much at one time because then it's just too overwhelming. That's point number one. Pain point number two is that people, for some reason, think that they're going to immediately be able to monetize their live stream. I say pain point because everybody's like, "oh, I bought all that equipment." Now, you've got to figure out how to pay for all that equipment, you know? If you're struggling already with your business and growing it, then you're not going to immediately monetize live stream. You have to have an audience. You know, you have to build that community. When you go live, they're tuning in because (of) the social platforms. They want to see that you're bringing viewers, they want to see engagement. So, point number two is monetizing your live stream. There are ways to do that, but don't always set out with monetization being number one. It could take a couple of years to monetize. So, get started. Build on it, then make those investments as your business is growing. Yes, mic drop. Yes.
Dylan Shinholser:
Do you have that mic? Just a mic drop? Because I might need to get one.
Brian Kelly:
It's actually super.
Dylan Shinholser:
Yeah, super real.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That's pretty cool, actually.
Julie Riley:
I like that.
Brian Kelly:
It's actually part of a magic trick that you put in a paper bag. It's a long story, but I found one more affordable that would not break my keyboard because that's what it landed on. You didn't hear it. Oh, my gosh. Golden nuggets there, as usual, from Christian who I give a lot of hard time to. I'm going to stop because you're amazing dude, and I don't want to get mad at me. I want you to be my friend. So many great things. So, you said two years. I was like, wow. I was watching an interview. How many of you have heard of Lewis Howes? Former professional football player and turned incredible entrepreneur. He's all over the place. He was being interviewed, and the guy interviewing him asked him a question. He said, "so, Lewis, if someone came to you, and they were talking about the fact they wanted to start a podcast. Now, we're talking just the audio version. That's what a podcast really is for everyone that may not know it's audio-only. Not video, even though they're going that way." He said, "well, here's what I'd tell them. First, you got to actually be consistent. Whenever you decide to do it, do it at that same day and that same time every week or multiple times a week. Whatever that happens to be. Number two, more importantly. You must commit yourself to doing that for at least, the magic number, two years. If they are not willing to do that, I would tell them, don't even get started." We didn't talk about monetization. None of that was discussed during this Q&A. That was telling. Who was I talking about this earlier with earlier today? It's not necessarily about monetizing. It's about building your platform, and I wanted to add to that. It took me in two years. I was just hitting that moment in time of my live show. That's when the momentum started. He was spot on, and so are you, Christian, about the two years. Then using a certain strategy (that) I use, I continually ask for referrals in a certain way. I eventually landed the one and only Les Brown. Some of you know who that is. Some of you don't. I've noticed some don't and Im like,"what rock are you living under?" He's amazing, and he's been on my show. Because of that, the two-year commitment is my point. Not talking about monetization. Then what I found after doing this for two years and striving for excellence all the time in every facet, I'm talking about the preshow communication with upcoming guests and the setup and the prep that they all go through and my system makes sure they do. The show itself and then after the show, all the post-production, everything that goes into it. Once you have that, people notice and my show, without my intending it to be, became an incredible, powerful lead magnet for my business. Focus, just as Christian was stating so properly, does definitely, positively impact your business. If you do it right. You do it high quality, and again, within reason within the resources you have. Go ahead, Christian.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I was going to say. That's another point that people look at, and they want to generate revenue off of it. That revenue may not be actual money upfront. It may end up being (help) (to) drive more leads to my website. It's not necessarily driving more people to my social channels. You're following is... It's OK. That's not going to necessarily grow your business because you had five more followers on Instagram or something like that. It's potentially getting them back to your website, which can be an opportunity for them to schedule a coaching call with you, maybe buy a product from you, learn from you for example. You're not going to get every single person to become a customer, but you're going to be able to use it to generate more leads.
Brian Kelly:
Totally, totally true.
Dylan Shinholser:
That's why I do it.
Brian Kelly:
You see on the top of this screen "streaming live on" and then five. We're doing it to eight right now or seven right now. "Listen-on" down below. On the bottom, there's actually twenty five of those like us could fit them all. Roku now was on Fire TV. Look, you're not making money from those, but here's what happened. How many of you have heard of Kevin Harrington? Shark Tank? Original Shark Tank? He has a partner named, "Seth Green", and they do a podcast together. They've been doing it for years now. They have five-hundred plus episodes. We got introduced, Seth and I. I met Kevin. We shared the stage once. I'm not name-dropping, but yes, I am. It was awesome, and it was fun. Seth reached out. We were connected by someone else. We were introduced, and Seth did his own homework. He came back, we literally talked on Zoom, and he says, "wow, I did some research. I looked you up and, my God, you're everywhere." I just wanted to say, "yeah, that's right." So, you want to get out there. That's why, shameless plug, I call it, "carpet bomb marketing". You saturate with everything you've got within reason. Right? If you can automate it, it can be near or completely free. So just do it. Why not add it to your arsenal? So, it works. Just be consistent to a minimum of two years. Get in touch with people like Julie, Christian, Tim, and Dylan. You might make that even quicker than two years. I'll direct you to the shortcuts that many of us did by trial and error.
Timothy McNeely:
Touching on the monetization piece, a good friend of mine runs one of the top coaching consultancies out there. Right. Very, very successful. Runs a great podcast, great show. I ask him one day. I said, "have you need any money doing your podcast?" He thought for a second. He says, "naw, I've actually lost money doing it. The relationships that I've made...I've made millions off (of) that." If you approach it from that standpoint... There's different goals, but I always approach, you know, what's the end result? What are you looking for out of your show? Why are you doing it? That's how you can measure the success of it. Is it helping you achieve whatever goals you set for yourself?
Brian Kelly:
Totally agree. It's very similar. Isn't it? To writing a book? I'm holding up another namedrop. Yes, it's very similar to writing your own book. Because a lot of people want to write a book and make a living off of the sales of the book. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, most of the time it just doesn't happen that way. If anyone comes up to you and you're talking to them... During the course of conversation, maybe you ask them what they've been up to? Or, hey, I've authored a book. The moment they say that, in your eyes, do they not lift up in an influence in your mind? Right then and there? Instantly. It builds authority. That's exactly what this live show, and live shows like it, are doing. When you're giving evidence of it by spitting it out to all of these platforms, there's no way people can't find you and know that you're serious. You know, it's showing that you have a commitment level. It's showing that you have a quality level of professionalism. It's not about the show itself. It's like, well, if I do business with that person, or will I... Will I want to do business that person? If they're professional. Yes. If they put on a shoddy show, they might give me shoddy service. If I do business with them. Does that make sense? People want to (be) representing yourself in the best. Do it the best you can, but do it. Please, don't delay. Don't try to be perfect. You heard everybody talk. Go ahead, Dylan. You had something?
Dylan Shinholser:
Well, yeah. There's indirect ways to make money with shows, live streams, and of course direct (ways). Right. Direct is selling sponsorships, ad-space, all that good stuff. The indirect monetization is so much more powerful. When I do shows or when I hop on shows or anything, it's literally just to build a top-down awareness of myself. I just want people to know what Dylan Shinholser is. Then that way, because I do multiple things, I'm never trying to sell one product at any given time. I'm trying to sell myself, and what it does is it gives me that outlet to do it. Then if you're hosting a show. Right? This maybe goes into some other topics around how to market and things like that. It's a powerful relationship tool because when you can open your platform to other people that you're looking to connect with. I'm in the business of working with influencers and throwing their events. Well, the best way to connect was get them on my show. It gave me a reason to reach out that wasn't pitchy or sales. It was more or less. Hey, man, I just want to give you an outlet, because I think what you talk about is cool. Tell my people about it. After the show, I was like, "hey, man, what are you doing next Tuesday? I need a speaker." Or "hey, man. I have some ideas (that) I want to pitch you or (some) things. They're more receptive. So, I always do shows and things not about the direct money I get, but the indirect thing. It's the indirect impact that I get from relationships, or people sharing my stuff out and people go, oh man, he sounds semi-intelligent unless they're watching this. Then then they'll go, okay, great. Let me go over to this platform that he runs with this business that he does or whatever because he sounded halfway intelligent on that show. Right? So, I think the indirect monetization is what most people don't... They don't get that the instant gratification of like that five thousand dollars sponsorship check. When I forgo that and go on to bring on much more money on the backend with the people I connect with, in the top influence that I get.
Brian Kelly:
The magic word there was "relationship".
Dylan Shinholser:
Relationships all day, every day. That's all I do- is build relationships, and how can I do it? Do more shows like this. Can I get it out? You're on like forty-two different podcast or outlets here, right? Every one of those. Every time you put a show on it, you're building a relationship with someone on that platform. Even if it's just you talking, and they're listening. You're building that relationship. Everything (that) I do, is built on: how can I develop relationships? Live streams is just an amazing way to do so.
Brian Kelly:
Posting them is one thing. Right? That's a great thing. What I learned through a podcasting expert friend of mine is the maybe not as equally important, but possibly greater importance, is getting on other people's shows. That includes audio podcasts only. He explained how his business skyrocketed when he did what he called, "podcast guest marathons". He would have someone get him booked in his team. He would carve out three days and just say get as many as you can for me. He'd do that. Then when they ask him about how to get in contact with him... This is the gold right here... It's not go to my Facebook page and look up my name and message me. He would tell them to go to his podcast website and from there to subscribe. Now he's building a following. It's genius. It's so genius. I just want to impart that. The cool thing, though, is when you're hosting a high-quality live show that opens the door for you to be a guest on many more.
Dylan Shinholser:
Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Being a guest is what goes back to the authority building. Right? If I can build my authority, I build my influence. If I do have something to sell... If I'm trying to build my brand or whatever it is or I'm just trying to get to as many people as possible to talk about events with them... That authority I call it, "authority hacking", being able to get them on your show. That'll get your show in front of their audience, and then going on to other shows helps you develop your authority. It's like writing a book. I was I'm a guest on this show, this show, this show. It's like writing a book. Your authority starts to become a little bit more when you're leveraging their influence. Right? When you're a guest on the show, if that show has a following, you becoming a guest on that show gives you authority because now you have the validation of the host that everyone is following and love. So, I can authority hack by getting on other people's shows.
Brian Kelly:
It leverges. You have a whole new tribe watching and interacting with you as well. I mean, this is one of the most powerful things people can use. If they just get out of that rut of trying to find a way to make money with it directly, that's when they'll see the real value come through. It's about building relationships. It's long-term. Not short, quick kill. I got to make a commission and run. It's build a relationship. Establish it. If you go into this with the mindset of it not being for directly making money, I personally think you have greater success. The long-term plays always work better than the short-term. Short-term works can work, but they're temporary. The long-term is a lot more permanent and lasting. Just think of all the wonderful bread crumbs you're leaving throughout the world. Through all the venues and platforms we've been talking about. In speaking terms, if you're on stage, that's what we call a "stage swap". Where you would be a guest on someone else's stage in return for them saying, "okay, but I'm going to do the opposite." We'll have you on our as well. The same thing with podcasts and live video. It works really great. Just make sure they're a fit.
Dylan Shinholser:
They've got to fit. (It's) got to makes sense.
Brian Kelly:
Both ways. Yeah.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I want to add something real quick to that. If you are consistently going live, so it's great to be consistent, go live on a regular basis, but also think about the long game. It's a couple of years, for example. Also, don't be afraid to be making changes and adjustments as things are moving along. It's not about substituting equipment. It's about looking at your process. For example, you mentioned Brian, that you have automation on some of the things. Think of smarter ways to take bigger jumps ahead. If I have to send someone an email, and I'm like, "hey, do you want to be on my show?" Then I have to deal with the whole back and forth. Well, okay. Yeah. What time? Then I have to send everything back. There are tools out there like Calendly, Harmonizely. You can send a calendar link to somebody and they can only book a certain slot for example and vice versa. This takes out the guesswork out of having to do all that back and forth. That's a way to work smarter because now you want to book people for your show. You send them one link. The person then doesn't have to send you a message back, and you can even use it to collect feedback for your show questions. There's not a lot of back-and-forth and downtime.
Brian Kelly:
Yeah, absolutely. I do that as well, and it's a godsend. I could not do what I'm doing. I would not do what I'm doing without the automation part of it. I have an onboarding form. You guys all... Most, not all of you went through it, but that was a mini version. Julie, you went through the big version. I then changed it right after I saw that. Like you said, make adjustments. That's what I did. I'm constantly doing that. Improving. I have a document automatically generated in Google Docs with your bio. The answer you had to why you think you would bring value to the show. Also, all the questions you chose to be asked for the show. Some of you didn't see that. So everything's done. The Q&A part used to take hours and hours doing manually. Now I just give them thirty-eight questions. Choose ten, and we're good. You tick the box. You choose what I'm going to ask you. (I) just made it a system, and it has worked beautifully. I don't even use the ten questions hardly. I use maybe the first three. Then we go organically like we've been doing tonight. My God, it's six twenty-nine! Are you kidding me? I'm having too much fun. Real quick. I know everyone that came on in the beginning. You heard this thing about a prize. We're going to do that real quick, and we'll come back and wrap it up. For those of you watching, remember in the beginning I said, "take notes and don't go clicking away and stuff like that"? Now I think Dylan, Julie, Tim, and Christian will also give you permission to do what I'm saying, and that is take out your phone. Take your gaze away from us for just a moment, but you'll still have to look back. Yes, yes. You can do this too. Please, do. What I want you to do....
Dylan Shinholser:
I need a vacation.
This is how you can enter to win a five-night stay at a five-star luxury resort of your choosing. Here's what you do. Take out your message app on your phone. Fire that up- your text message app. Where you would type in the name of the person normally that you're going to text. Instead, put in this number: three, one, four, six, six five-they're all doing it behind the scenes- one, seven, six, seven. I love this. Three, one, four, six, six, five, one, seven, six, seven. If you're watching this and you're not a guest, go ahead and write this down because I gonna take the screen down. I want you to get it. This will be open until the end of the evening. Where you actually put in the message... Where you might put emojis, those kinds of things, not emojis, just two words separated by a dash or a hyphen. Those words are peak (P-E-A-K) dash Vacation (V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N). All together. No spaces. Peak vacation. Send it off, then monitor your phone. You're going to get an automated response back asking you for your email address, and that will then officially enter you into the contest. Compliments of The Big Insider Secrets. Our buddies, Jason Nash, the owner. Dear friend of mine who lets us give this away every single week. Every show, actually. We do more than one a week now on average. So go ahead, get that entered. I can't wait to see who's going to win that. You're going to be asked later, you don't have to if you're the winner, to provide your Facebook information. Just your profile so we can say congrats and give you a high-five online and get others to come watch the show. To be honest, that's another strategy. We're just rolling back the curtain. That's why we do it this way. You can offer incentives like that. My friend has offered that to anyone who is my friend. If you're not my friend, you don't get it. If you're on as part of the panel here, they're all my friends. Christian may differ on that opinion, but I think he's my friend.
Christian Karasiewicz:
I'm your friend. Yes.
Brian Kelly:
Ok, good. I picked on you so hard. I apologize, but you're just you're a fun guy. I appreciate you for putting up with it. I definitely do stuff like that. Implement it and announce it in the beginning. That helps retention. I'm just pulling back the curtain for everybody. You can do different things like that. Having multiple people, I noticed, is also a little better than just one every single time. So, mix it up now and then. Alright. I know we're a little bit over, but I want to give you each another chance for a final parting tip. Anything you want on live streaming. It could be hardware, software, how you smile, what bling you wear, don't wear, your makeup. I'm wearing some, by the way, just so the guys know. Yeah, I don't know what they call it. It's not like guy up.. guy-liner, but it's like makeup. I know. That was bad.
Dylan Shinholser:
I haven't heard of that one.
Brian Kelly:
I just did that. I'm not a young fart anymore. Anyway. So, Dylan, we'll do the same thing. Go around the horn. What would be one final quick tip, or parting words of advice, you can give our wonderful viewing and listening audience?
Dylan Shinholser:
Keep it simple stupid. Don't overcomplicate it. There's things that you need to do and standards you need to meet. At the end of the day, keep it simple stupid will allow you to not overcomplicated it (and) get overwhelmed. Once you get overwhelmed, it's a wash. I would just say as a life advice, event advice, live stream advice, just keep it simple stupid and keep it moving.
Brian Kelly:
Real quick, I got to interject on that. Just so people know that that comes from an acronym K.I.S.S. So we're not calling everybody stupid, for one.
Dylan Shinholser:
Well...
Brian Kelly:
That was great. I have a friend who is Sicilian in nature, and he did this from the stage. He talked about it, and he brought up the whole thing. We're talking about doing it without complicating it. He goes, "It's like K.I.S.S. Who knows what K.I.S.S means?" Someone raised their hands. They said, "keep it simple, stupid". He goes,"Oh, no, no. It's keep it simple Sicilian." He lighten the load of the stupid part. I thought that was cool. Sorry, Julie, what is your parting tip?
Julie Riley:
You know, you're going to have to get started at some point. In order to do that, you're going to have to get over your fear. Go practice. Get those done, but also go watch and find other people that you resonate with their live shows. Start to take pieces from each of those. Now, obviously, you cannot go copy their live show and recreate it. You can pull little things from multiple different people's live shows that you like and that resonate with you. If you're comfortable and things are resonating with you, you're going to exude that comfort and that confidence out to the rest of the world.
Brian Kelly:
I love it. I love it. Alright. The man, the myth, the legend, Timothy J. McNeely. What is your final parting word of advice?
Timothy McNeely:
I'm going to close with a story. The purpose of this story is to illustrate the power of doing a show. July 20th, 1969, the first man walked on the moon. He left his footprints up there. On the moon, there's no wind. There's no rain. There's no weather, and those footprints today in twenty twenty-one look exactly like they did in nineteen sixty-nine. They're going to be exactly the same a million years from now. You too. You leave footprints on the hearts and the minds of everyone that you come in contact with. In streaming and having a platform, that's your opportunity to leave your footprints and to have an impact on people. Get clear about what your message is. What's the impact you want to have? If you do that, all of the other puzzle pieces are going to fall in place for you.
Brian Kelly:
Oh, baby. Okay, I've got to do it. I've got to do it. That was amazing.
Dylan Shinholser:
You have to get one of the little lower third animation gifts that are possible here on StreamYard. It's just a mic drop every time someone does one.
Brian Kelly:
Not nearly as much fun though, bro.
Christian Karasiewicz:
That's true. Fair. Very fair. I'll give it to you. I've got to get me one of those little squishy microphones.
Brian Kelly:
A little sound effect like I just broke my desk or something. That would be good. Alright, Christian, you've had a long time to think about it now. No pressure, but this better be a good one. I'm kidding. What do you have?
Christian Karasiewicz:
Let's see. The best piece of advice, I think, would be don't have gas or gear acquisition syndrome. You're going to watch people doing their live streams, and they're going to go and be like, "hey, I got to get that mic because this person upgraded." Oh, they got a new webcam. Remember? If you develop a plan, the whole thing is work the plan.. work the system. It's great (that) somebody else got some equipment, but it doesn't mean that you need to go out and get that yourself as well. Remember, work your plan. When you get to the certain points, maybe set that as a milestone. If I get to a certain number of viewers, for example, or a certain number of subscribers on a channel, then I might need to upgrade something. Don't be buying stuff just because someone else is doing so.
Brian Kelly:
Sales drive service. I love it. You guys are amazing. Thank you so much for coming on. Everyone who watched live. Thank you for coming on. Those of you that watched on the recording. Thank you for spending your valuable time with us, and those listening on the podcast. The same goes for you. Definitely. I hope you took a lot of notes because these are experts in the field. They are giving their value, their heart, their experience. They only charged me two-hundred thousand dollars for it. It's really been a deal. I'm kidding. They charged me nothing. You got incredible value from these amazing, amazing professionals. I can't thank you all enough. I appreciate you Dylan, Julie, Tim, Christian. Thank you from the bottom of my heart with all seriousness. I know we had some fun tonight. Thank you, Christian, so much for letting me pick on you so hard. You've been a great guy. I look forward to getting to know each and every one of you at a deeper level. If you're open to that after tonight. Appreciate you all. On behalf of these amazing people, that's it. We're out. My name is Brian Kelly. I'm the host of The MIND BODY BUSINESS Show. Until next time we will see you. Be blessed. So long for now.
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