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Brian Kelly:
So here's the big question. How are entrepreneurs like us who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward only to fall two steps back? Who are dedicated. Determined. And driven. How do we finally break through and win? That is the question. And this podcast will give you the. My name is Brian Kelly. This is the Mind Body Business Show. Hello, everyone, and welcome. Welcome, Welcome to the Mind Body business show. Very, very excited for tonight's episode because we have an amazing, amazing man that is here with us tonight. He's sitting in the green room waiting, clawing at the screen. Let me in. I want to talk and share my brilliance and experience. And he is coming very, very soon. His name is Rennie Gabriel, and I. I know you are going to love this guy just as much as I do. Uh, really great attitude, wonderful smile, great energy. And he loves helping people. And that's the kind of people that tend to come on this show. Just everyone. Only everyone. And that's the beautiful thing. And the other thing that's really phenomenal about Rennie is he is very successful and he's going to come on and share with you how he became successful. And the cool thing, another cool thing there's so many is that he did it in a very relatively short period of time. And so I'm going to be peeling apart the onion, so to speak, and getting into his big, beautiful brain and finding out exactly how this all transpired. And we're going to learn a lot about him. He's got a book. He's got a phenomenal website. He gives to charity, donates everything that you could love in a person. That's Rennie Gabriel right there. And he's coming on here really, really soon. And the mind body business show, that is exactly what it is all about. It's about bringing on successful entrepreneurs from all over the world and for the sole purpose of sharing their wisdom, their insights, their experience, their success with you, even their failures. Because it just as important it is to know how to succeed.

Brian Kelly:
It's also important to know what doesn't work so that you can avoid doing that as well, because you might be doing it. And when Rennie gets on or Rennie gets on and talks about his successes, most entrepreneurs I interview, they also talk about what how, you know, there were a lot of pain points to get through to get to that point. And so by giving you both sides, you get the shortcut to success. And it's a legitimate, authentic and integrity based shortcut. It's one that you need and one that you deserve. And that's why we're here. And so it's about the three pillars of success, and that's the three words of this very show mind, body and business and mind really represents mindset. And I interviewed and studied many successful people over a ten year period and focused just on successful people. And that's where these three pillars came from mind was to a person. Each of these successful individuals had a very powerful positive and most importantly, though, flexible mindset, very important and body to a person. Each of these individuals also took care of themselves physically and nutritionally. And then business. Business is multi, multifaceted, and it involved the mastering of various skill sets. These individuals mastered skill sets that are necessary to build, maintain and grow a thriving business. Skill sets like marketing team building, systematizing leadership. I could go on for quite some time. There are a lot of them. The good news is you don't have to master every single one of them by yourself. In fact, if you were to master just one of them by yourself, if you were to and with help get mentors, get help, get ready, they'll probably help you. I don't know. We'll find out. Get people who have been there and done that, who have learned and mastered the skill set of this one skill set called leadership. Because once you have mastered that skill set, you can now leverage and bring in other folks who have mastered the other skill sets that you have yet to. Or let's be honest, you may never master because of the time involved in mastering any one thing takes a long time. And so leadership big, big skill set.

Brian Kelly:
Thankfully, I learned that one pretty short into my own entrepreneurial career, which itself did not start until my late 40 seconds. So there you go. They're never too old. And Rennie's going to tell us even a better story. It's even going to beat that. I'm going to. It's awesome. Don't want to give it away. And so also to a person, each of these individuals that I talked about or talked to study, these are mentors, authors of books, some that were alive, some that are no longer with us, mentors that I've worked with personally. It wide and varied. It cast a broad net, but each and every single person of that group were also very avid readers of books. And with that, I'd like to segue very quickly into a segment I affectionately call Bookmarks.

Announcer:
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Brian Kelly:
Yes. There you see. Reach your peak. Library.com. And a word of of advice at this moment is for those of you watching. And if you're not watching live, be sure to go to the mindbody business show.com and register. That will be mentioned here a little bit later in more detail and be sure so you can join us live and engage and ask questions. We love engagement, but one quick word of advice and that is if you're it doesn't matter if you're watching this live on recording or listening on audio through one of the podcast platforms we're on, 35 of them is to rather than succumb to that itch, so to speak, to run over and start looking at these resources, going off into another browser tab, for instance, and typing in something like Richard Peak Library.com Instead of doing that, I would implore upon you to instead write notes, take it down, write it down, reach your peak library.com, write it down, keep your focus and gaze at the screen. Not for me, but for when Rennie comes on specifically. And especially because here's the thing. The magic happens in the room. This happened to me many times from stage I'll be speaking. I know when I'm getting to the really juicy part, but I don't know every part of that, which is the part that's going to have that life impactful. Aha moment on that individual who is now getting up and walking out of the room because they either had to go to the restroom or that all important phone call or text message came in that they just couldn't be without. And then they're walking out and they miss what possibly could have changed their life for better forever. So please don't let that be you. And this is just a suggestion. I take notes and I'm running this whole daggone thing. I'll show them to you later if you want. So please take notes. Do not run away. Focus completely on this show, especially when Rennie comes on, which is going to be very, very soon. I promise. I'm going to stop rambling here in just a moment. And so Reach Your Peak Library is a site that I had my team put together literally with you in mind.

Brian Kelly:
And the reason is because I myself was not a voracious reader until about 11 years ago at the ripe age of 47. So I know you're all doing the math. How old is he? And so I didn't start reading anything of great value until the age of 47. And so I started just collecting all the good reads, the great reads, the ones that had actual impact, positive impact, profound impact on my business life, my professional life, my personal life, or both. And so I put them on this website, had them thrown in here and literally they're thrown in here. They're in no particular order, no rhyme or reason. Just scroll through, find the first one that you haven't read yet that jumps off the screen, read the description, and if you want to get it and read it, you don't have to do it on this website. Get it from wherever you get your books. This is not for the purpose of making money. All those buttons go straight to Amazon. And we do have one book, though I will say, that's going to be offered tonight that you will want to get and you will want to get it through Renegade Oriel's website. Not on Amazon, not anywhere else, because you'll see why in a moment. It's what he's doing is phenomenal and I'm so appreciative that he's doing that. So anyway, that is what this is here for. You'll you'll be amazed if you haven't been reading voraciously or on on purpose or in habit. You'll notice that once you start that your life will change for the better. And that's what happened with me and that's why I share this resource with you. It's truly and literally my gift to you for coming here and watching and listening to the mind body business show. All right, enough of my blabbing, because you know what time it is. It's Randy Gabriel time. Yes, yes, yes. I cannot wait. Let's bring him on, shall we? Here we go.

Announcer:
It's time for the guest expert Spotlight. Savvy, skillful, professional, adept. Trained. Big-league Qualified.

Brian Kelly:
And there he is, ladies and gentlemen. Yes, it is the one. It is the only. Gabriel. Yes. How are you doing, my friend?

Rennie Gabriel:
I am doing so great. I'm. It's fantastic. And I've got to compliment you, Ryan, because the intro to the show was the best I've ever seen. Well, you talked about babbling on. I got to tell you, you covered some fabulous points, things that I would even be talking about when you talk about, you know, growing a business. I mean, I've got a quote that there was something you said that reminded me of it. And it's wealth creation is a team sport, not a solo sport.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, yes. Boom. And so, so true. At the library.

Rennie Gabriel:
The reading, I mean, everything was just so spot on. So I've got to acknowledge you for what you've put together.

Brian Kelly:
Well, thank you so much. I appreciate that. Yeah. And I've learned so much literally from people like you, Renee, from having come on the show. And that's what I implore people to do also, is start their own show there You will get the greatest education that comes at no cost other than the cost of putting everything together. There is cost involved. Let's not let's not cover that over with anything. It is truly it truly takes money. But oh my gosh, the investment of money and time is so worth it. You can't quantify the amount of money. And I know you also have your podcast and you're nodding emphatically because you realize this seem to be true as well. Um, I want to introduce you formally and officially here in just a moment, and we need to take care of a little bit of housekeeping, I'd like to call it, and others might call it bookkeeping because we want to get some ad spots going here. So it's just a few minutes, folks. Just sit tight, write down some notes as you see this flying by. And Renee and I will be right back. So don't go anywhere. Here we go. Hey, if you're watching the Mind Body business show live right now, then you will have the ability to win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort of your choosing. Compliments of the big insider secrets. What is it? It is a five night vacation stay to one of many destinations across the world. You can see as we go through this very quickly, there's some in Branson and Daytona Beach. These are in the United States, all over the United States, New Orleans, San Diego, There's also Mexico. There's also the UK and Argentina. I mean, it just keeps going on and on and on. Australia, at the end of this show, you will be given the ability to enter to win. You must be watching this live. If you're not watching live, then head on over to the mind body business show.com and register to receive automated notifications when we go live the next time we do not spam, we do not even pitch any products or anything from that notification.

Brian Kelly:
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Brian Kelly:
Oh, this is it Just keeps getting better. His award winning best selling book, Go and Hold That Up, Rennie. If you have that handy wealth on any income has been translated into eight languages. This is a man making an impact. Thank you so much, Rennie on the World in a great, profound and positive way. Ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, the one and only Rennie Gabriel. Yeah. Thank you.

Rennie Gabriel:
Brian. Thank you so much. And, oh, I was looking over that library that you have available and thinking. Oh, yeah, I've read that one. Yeah, I've read that one. I've read that one.

Brian Kelly:
And there's going to be one added to that library. I think someone was just holding it up a second ago. Um, I can't think of the name of it. I'm totally kidding. Yeah. And for those of you watching, you can see it behind him. You can see it under his name wealth on any income.com. Write that down. Don't go there now but you will go there you'll want to after the show and we're going to give you some great resources. Rennie has a gift to give away as well. So you do not want to leave. You want to stay on until the end. That's when all these wonderful showering of gifts and you'll get to enter to win that vacation stay. All that will occur at the end. Don't go anywhere. Stay with us. Rennie. I want to. I am so curious. I have so many questions just from the bio alone. But what I wanted to do is start from I love the first word of the show, Mine, Mine set. It's so powerful and it's my opinion that every one of us, every single one of us humans, our level of success or lack thereof, is 100% due to what is going on in our own noggin between our own two ears has nothing to do with outside forces. What happened to me? What they did to you? It has nothing to do with any of that. It's all controlled right here. And I've learned that over the course of years now. And it's been an amazing awakening for me personally. So I'm curious, Rennie, you you've been through it. Obviously the bio talks mean can't two divorces. My gosh, brother, just that alone is a difficult thing I would imagine, to go through. But you've been through a lot. You've had life experience and now you're doing this business and you're donating all of your proceeds, your profits because you can. But to get to that point, there had to be some struggle and there had to be some Yeah, some getting up in the morning going, Holy crap, I got a lot I got to take care of today. And there are arduous tasks that are involved in becoming successful. And so I'm curious for you, when you were getting up in the morning, even till this day, what is it when you get up, what's going on in that big, beautiful brain of yours that is keeping you driven, that is keeping you motivated, keeping you, serving others? What is that for you each and every day?

Rennie Gabriel:
Well, I got to say that you talk about mindset and I'm not sure if it's 100%. My feeling is it's only 100% love it. And what gets me up in the morning and gets me moving is what I did the night before. And what I did for years was I wrote out a list of the things that I needed to accomplish the next day, the evening before. And either highlighted or starred or in some way marked two of the ten items, which is the 8020 principle. That will do the most for me if I only get those two done and not the other eight. The other eight are irrelevant, but those two are responsible for 80% of my results. So that was done every evening before I went to bed. I also gave some anticipation of how much time it would take to accomplish things, and that's what I would do, so that when I got up in the morning, I knew what was going to be happening.

Brian Kelly:
And that is, I mean, if. If we stop the show right now, that would be enough for everybody to take that advice and crush it successfully. Because you just described, you know, those that are always doing this multitasking, looking at the shiny ball syndrome because they haven't prioritized their list so they can focus on I mean, to come on people, if you can't finish two tasks in an entire day Yeah some of them take longer than others, but that makes total sense. And it's so interesting, Renee Recently, it's a long story. I'm thinking how to paraphrase it, but I my dad has advanced dementia and he was getting scammed out of a lot of money and it became a massive burden on everybody and really specifically yours truly, because I live closest to him and still do. And so I had that to deal with. I had my business to deal with. I had a wife who was going through breast cancer at the same time to do it. And so it was too much. And I got to the point where I'm talking my brother lives in Arizona, so he's not right here. But he was very helpful, very helpful. But we were on the phone all the time. And I said I said, Brad, you know, we bring up another issue. I said, Brad, all I can do is focus on what's next. I can't I don't have the I don't have the capacity to do anymore is focus on and finish that one and then we'll move to the next one. And when that was all done, I looked back and said, Holy moly, that's exactly how you should be running a business. And you just said it. You just said it. I mean, it's like, Isn't that awesome? I just love how this all comes together. So sweet. Yeah. And so. Yeah, life, life.

Rennie Gabriel:
Works. Personal life, business life. They work in tandem. You screw up one, you're going to screw up the other and vice versa. You're going to be successful in one. You'll be successful in the other.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah. So the question everybody watching and listening is which one would you choose? I would choose being.

Rennie Gabriel:
Successful at home first.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, No, I mean, I was telling everybody was asking everybody Yeah be successful. Yeah. And start with that. And then how does one do that? They listen to people like Renee Gabriel, who has figured it out. That's why we do the show mean right off the bat. Like, bam, we're, you know, you're dropping incredible bombs of value like the bomb thing because the carpet bomb.

Rennie Gabriel:
Oh, that does remind me when you put that up on the screen from the stand. I used to teach art in high school. That was my first job out of college, was teaching art and coaching. Wrestling. Wow. And Yeah. A little. I know. A little.

Brian Kelly:
Divergent.

Rennie Gabriel:
There, right? Your art teacher is also the wrestling coach. Okay. Anyway, the word bomb shouldn't be on a similar background or a similar color as your background. Yeah. It needs to pop a little bit, add some of the orange into the middle of the word bomb or something because that you just it fades out and you don't want it to fade out.

Brian Kelly:
God, I swear to goodness. You must have been reading. I am not kidding. As I'm watching that, that's come up many times on the show, meaning the visual has come up and I've seen it and I'm like, you know, I could really add some more light background or something to make that stand out because Bomb isn't coming. I swear to goodness. I'm not kidding. I had that very thought. So. So, okay.

Rennie Gabriel:
Now here, here's a are you open for a drop of coaching? Just a.

Brian Kelly:
Drop. Always. Yes, love. Oh, terrific job training.

Rennie Gabriel:
So here's the question I ask people who say they they want to do something. They need to do something. They're planning to do something. Okay. Bye. When will you fix that graphic?

Brian Kelly:
Ooh. By tomorrow, brother. Okay. So tomorrow is Thursday.

Rennie Gabriel:
And now here's the second question.

Brian Kelly:
How will I know.

Rennie Gabriel:
You've done it?

Brian Kelly:
I will share it with you. Perfect.

Rennie Gabriel:
By what time?

Brian Kelly:
That's a good one. I have to look at my calendar. Honestly, I schedule everything. Tomorrow's Friday is Fridays usually slammed. I will. Say. Tomorrow's Friday. I will say before noon. I'll make that happen. Okay. Perfect.

Rennie Gabriel:
Okay. Thank you.

Brian Kelly:
So, ladies and gentlemen. He is demonstrating what it is to coach using accountability. It is so unbelievably powerful. I just gave him a verbal contract. I promise. I didn't say the word promise, but in my head that's what I was doing. I promise to to modify that logo to make it more eye popping doesn't mean it's going to be perfect. He might come back and say, Yeah, but do this instead. That's okay. But at least I will have taken that next step. And that is a coach's coach right there, Renee Or I keep saying Renee. Renee is that is exactly mean. Oh, and I appreciate that. And thank you. Thank you for that. I love receiving coaching. I mean, I didn't pay a dime for it. And you probably would be able to charge quite a bit an hourly on an hourly rate. And here's another benefit of having your live show, ladies and gentlemen. So I appreciate that. I receive it. I love coaching. I don't ego things. And because you have the model of embedding accountability, that means what that means is when Renee coaches you, you will get the results you're coming to him for. That's the beautiful thing. If he just says do. It and doesn't say when, and then how will I know? Show me the proof. It'll never get done. It just won't happen. Yeah And now.

Rennie Gabriel:
One of the things you might have missed but don't think you did is I asked your permission before I provided any coaching you did.

Brian Kelly:
And that was. That was so respectful. Respectful. And even even if I was paying you, I imagine that's what you would ask in the beginning. Part of the model. Yeah. That's right. It just. It pulls you in. You're like, Oh, man. Yeah. And it's genius. It's beautiful. And like you said before we even came on. Simple, right? Yeah. And this is one of the key things I want to keep harping on. And please do the same when you feel it's right. Renny is That is probably one of the biggest characteristics and reasons why you became successful in such a short amount of time. Successful by way of how much money you made a multi-millionaire since the age of 50, which was probably two years ago. So I don't know. Oh, you're so kind. Yeah, you probably don't know how old I am, but yeah.

Rennie Gabriel:
Thank you for being so kind.

Brian Kelly:
But I will tell. You, relatively. Short period of time compared to 98% of the people on the planet. Yeah or more.

Rennie Gabriel:
With a span of within a span of eight years from broke to not having to work for a living.

Brian Kelly:
That is. Amazing. Can I ask you, which I'm sure many have, how did that come to be? Is there a concise, consolidated manner in pointing out the key elements that got you there, or do we need to have like a five hour talk? Either way is fine with me. I'm good. Yeah. There's two.

Rennie Gabriel:
Two key elements. The first one is that I already mentioned, which is wealth creation is a team sport, not a solo sport. And the second is. Um Hmm. Yeah. Brian, can I put you on the spot?

Brian Kelly:
Please do.

Rennie Gabriel:
Okay. So have you heard of the expression Pay yourself first?

Brian Kelly:
Yes.

Rennie Gabriel:
Okay. Could you explain it?

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, it's I think it's subjective. In my my view of. It is, you know, give yourself. The money you need to, to, to establish, to. Take care of your needs first. And then whatever you have left, you then reinvest into your business. I would reinvest and into your team. Okay, that sounds nice.

Rennie Gabriel:
And that's not it. So it comes from a book called The Richest Man in Babylon. Because remember on your sheet you said, here's some questions you I'm going to ask you. So one of my favorites, because I've got a bunch of favorites, is The Richest Man in Babylon by George Clason.

Brian Kelly:
And in it he.

Rennie Gabriel:
Describes the concept of pay yourself first. And what it is, is wherever your money's coming from, however much you're earning, whether it's commissions, whether it's tips, whether it's royalties, whether it's a paycheck, it doesn't make any difference. You take a certain percentage. I don't care where you start. It could be one, three, 5%, whatever. The book suggests 10% and you set it aside. You don't just set it aside. You set it aside to keep for the rest of your life. And the only purpose that money has is to be invested to make more money.

Brian Kelly:
That's it.

Rennie Gabriel:
And so that's the second thing I did. One is I didn't do it by myself. And two, I treated myself like I deserved to own some of the money I was working for, which is paying yourself first. Setting it aside. And here's what I'm getting at.

Brian Kelly:
I'm age 50.

Rennie Gabriel:
I'm divorced for the second time. I've had a business failure in an art gallery, put me into debt. Dug my way out of it. But at age 50. I'm divorced again and broke, so I'm making a living. I was making $5,000 a month doing business coaching. And I set aside $500 a month. In three years, I had saved up a whopping $18,000.

Brian Kelly:
Okay.

Rennie Gabriel:
I'm 53 years old. I've got $18,000 to my name. However, I could have done the wrong thing with it. And this is one of the things that I hear some financial gurus, CPAs, people who don't know how to create wealth, give advice to other people. They say, Oh, pay off your debts first, pay off your credit cards first before you begin to invest. If I would have done that, if I would have taken the $18,000 that it took me three years to save and paid off my credit card debts. When this realtor came to me and said, Renny, I have this three unit property. You should buy it. I would have had no money to do anything. Instead, I had that 18,000. Now I'm in Los Angeles. You don't get to buy anything for $18,000.

Brian Kelly:
Okay.

Rennie Gabriel:
You could rent an apartment, but you can't buy anything. All right.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, for a few months. Yeah.

Rennie Gabriel:
I'm married for the third time, and my wife says if he thinks it's such a good deal, I'll come up with $18,000 also. Well, now my wife and I have half the down payment, and the realtor said, This is such a good deal, I'll come up with half. The three of us. Remember, wealth creation is a team sport, not a solo sport. I could talk about Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak or Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger and on and on. Team effort. The three of us bought it, and one person is a visionary. That was the realtor. He found properties worth buying. I did nothing but execute by managing because I took a class at UCLA 14 years earlier on how to manage apartment buildings, and now I'm getting to put it into practice. So we bought the building, we rehabbed it, we put in new tenants, we increased the rents. Within five years. That building grew in value by a half $1 million. Which because of real estate and the the tax code you can transfer gain in real estate if you buy something similar Yeah like an office building, another apartment building, mini storage facility. You know, it's just a like kind exchange. So we went from the three units to a 14 unit building. And along the way, what I saw is this works.

Brian Kelly:
Okay.

Rennie Gabriel:
So I went out and well, this is a secret of the wealthy. I said, there are three secrets. This is one of them. Use debt to create wealth. I borrowed more money to make down payments on more apartment buildings with my wife and the realtor. And in the five years we did this, the first five years we went from that three unit purchase, we added 47 more units. And at 50 units we had a level of income where if I chose to work, fine, if I chose not to work, fine, didn't have to worry about things.

Brian Kelly:
That is beautiful. And I've heard this before. Like, you know, some. Will say don't, don't go into debt, period, end of story. And then others. The first time I heard it, I was like, Man, it makes total sense. They said, Oh, that's wrong. You do it if you're investing in yourself, if you're doing it to invest in a business, a venture, you know you're doing it wisely. That's not an unwise debt to go into. I'm like, Wow, that makes sense. So I've actually used that several times. Not always successful, but but not just to go buy a car, a refrigerator or, you know, something nice. Yeah, that's called bad debt. Exactly. Yeah. And, you know, anytime I. Do anything on credit, it's for a business. It's never for a personal anymore. And that's great sound advice. Obviously, I don't even have to give my opinion because it's truth. It works that we've got the proof of it right here. And so are all these principles. Those three secrets are those outlined in your book as well.

Rennie Gabriel:
Um, good question. In my TED Talk, I do talk about those three secrets. Um, the book was written before I was aware of those three secrets.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, that's awesome.

Rennie Gabriel:
And I'll tell you what the three secrets are because it's really simple. Again, because I'm simple. I need to be simple.

Brian Kelly:
I use an acronym.

Rennie Gabriel:
A f I for the three secrets, which has nothing to do with the American Film Institute.

Brian Kelly:
Okay.

Rennie Gabriel:
The A stands for attitude. You're talking about mindset? Yes. The wealthy have a different attitude when it comes to money, when it comes to debt, when it comes to treating themselves like they matter when it comes to where they investing, when it comes to how they're spending small amounts of money on and on and on. Okay. The second item. F stands for forms. Now, you and I have filled out the forms before, and wealthy people look at them differently. As an example, if you went to the bank for a loan, they have you to fill out a sheet that lists everything you own and everything you owe. A balance sheet. Well, when a wealthy person looks at that, they're looking for specific things on it. They're not looking to see, well, what's my total net worth? They're looking to see what assets do I have that I can invest and grow my wealth.

Brian Kelly:
And it's not a house.

Rennie Gabriel:
I love what Richard Kiyosaki says. Your house is not an asset.

Brian Kelly:
Let me ask you something.

Rennie Gabriel:
How much income does your house generate for you?

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, exactly. No. Okay.

Rennie Gabriel:
How much of the expenses does your house generate for you?

Brian Kelly:
A lot. Yeah. Yeah.

Rennie Gabriel:
It sucks up money. It doesn't generate it unless you're using it for an Airbnb or something. True. But the point is, other real estate, your business equipment, leasing, many storage facilities, all sorts of other things. Create your net worth so you could choose to work or not work. So what I'm getting at is the wealthy look at something different on a balance sheet than what ordinary people do. And then when it comes to the debt side, it's the same thing. Is this debt that's enhancing my wealth or is this debt that's sucking money from me?

Brian Kelly:
You know, when I buy.

Rennie Gabriel:
An apartment building, the bank's financing it. I'm not even making the payments to the bank. Well, I'm making them. I'm writing the checks. But it's the tenants who are paying the rent that gave me the money to pay those loans and pay other expenses and pay for my standard of living and everything else. Yeah Secret. Two forms Secret one A attitude Secret three I Investments. Here's a secret. The wealthy have control over their investments. They're not giving their money to some financial planner and hoping it turns out okay. As an example. If I bought stock in General Motors. Kelly. Brian. Sorry. What input could I give to General Motors on their next car design?

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Zero zero. You have zero input. Zero control.

Rennie Gabriel:
Yeah, Probably Warren Buffett, who owns GM stock, doesn't even get to tell him how to design a car.

Brian Kelly:
Exactly.

Rennie Gabriel:
Okay, so the point is, you buy corporate stock, you got nothing to say. You hope they do. Okay. But when I buy an apartment building, I can choose where I buy it, how I finance it, how I remodel it, or if I do, who the tenants are that I'm allowing to live there, whether I sell it, whether I refinance it, whether I do a tax deferred exchange, I'm in control of the investment. Many storage facilities, equipment leasing, oil and gas investments, on and on and on. The wealthy person is generally to some degree in control of their investments. With a stock, you buy it, you keep it or you sell it. It's not a lot. It's not much else to do. Maybe you do a covered call option writing on it.

Brian Kelly:
But the point is, you're not in control. Exactly. I love it. So those are the three secrets, attitude.

Rennie Gabriel:
Forms, investments.

Brian Kelly:
And before I go too far. Into this, I want to let people know about your TED Talk and where they can go to actually watch that because it's value based. If you're talking about the three secrets. So you got. To have A12 punch so you'll everyone listening and watching, you'll want to, number one, get his book, which will give you that information here in just a moment on how to do that. And then number two, or reverse the order, however, however you wish, his TED talk, which I imagine might just possibly be somewhere on his website, I don't know. Do you think maybe it might be there? Well.

Rennie Gabriel:
Last time I checked, yes, I found it there.

Brian Kelly:
So I'm going to bring that up right now. And so if. You can help me navigate, I just want to give people the exact location so they're not guessing like I might do. Let me pull that up. There we go. And is it on this main page or on a different page? Good question.

Rennie Gabriel:
I know if you add to the wealth on any income.com/ted.

Brian Kelly:
X, how about that one?

Rennie Gabriel:
There you go. You end up on that page.

Brian Kelly:
All right. So after the Earl of wealth on any income.com it's forward slash capital T capital E capital D lowercase X that actually makes a difference on many browsers these days. Case sensitive. All right. So that is where everyone you would want to go to watch. And the one thing I love about TED Talks is by by design, they are very short Yeah and that that forces the individual in this case. Rennie To get to the point quickly, and he's a simple guy, so, you know, he's going to do that and that's phenomenal and you're going to get a lot from it. And oh my gosh, we're giving away one of the things, but I'll come back to that in a little bit. Almost gave it away right there. So write. That down. Go to wealth on any income.com forward slash. Tedx and TEDx. All three letters are uppercase. The X is lowercase. I'm doing that on purpose multiple times, especially for those of you who are just listening, who cannot see the screen at the moment, listening on podcast on which we're on 35 different podcast platforms. Yes, I will keep repeating that because that's pretty awesome. Oh, we have Yeah. Joshua Lee is giving you a trophy cup thinking that's a good thing. That sounds like something good. Yes. Winner, winner. So, hey, you know what? While I have this up, I think this would be a good time to segue into what it is you are up to today. It looks like you are doing quite a bit of philanthropy. And even as I say that I'm reading it on your page, It says we are raising philanthropists. And so you also have a little thing there. 100% of profits donated to shelter to soldier, which is another phenomenal thing. Um, and so if you wouldn't mind giving us a little synopsis, a background of what it is you're doing today, who you are, you know, who's your target, Guess client If you're working with individuals or businesses or corporations, male, female, all that good stuff. And then if you have a success story or two to tell about what it is you've helped someone to overcome or some entity overcome or achieve and get results, then I'd love to hear that as well, if that's okay. I will do.

Rennie Gabriel:
My best to remember all those questions you.

Brian Kelly:
Ask. So yeah, yeah. The whole point.

Rennie Gabriel:
Of of the work that I'm doing is to raise philanthropists, meaning that I'm not supporting people to handle money effectively or powerfully so they can go out and buy a Ferrari or Lamborghini or, you know, a McMansion or something like that. I mean, they're certainly entitled to do that if they choose to. But the people that I care about generally, they're coaches, authors, corporate trainers, entrepreneurs, business people who have some level of control over their income and they care about other people. And in terms of raising philanthropists, the whole point is that when they have enough money, they get to donate to the causes that touch their heart. It doesn't have to be to the charities that I'm donating to. It's going to be to the things that they care about. And the whole point of the TED talk is to wake people up to the idea that we've all been programed to believe it's better to be poor than to be wealthy. And I give the illustration of books, movies, TV programs, the scripture and how we're indoctrinated subliminally, and we're not even aware of it, that it's better to be poor and have a quote from Warren Buffett. It's one of my favorite quotes. He says of the people that of the billionaires I've met. Money just brings out the basic traits in them. If they were jerks before they had money, they're simply jerks with $1 billion.

Brian Kelly:
The whole point.

Rennie Gabriel:
Being, if you're a good person to become wealthy, you'll still be a good person.

Brian Kelly:
And if you're a.

Rennie Gabriel:
Jerk right now, you'll still be a jerk. But with a lot of money. The key is you're not going to change just because you become wealthy. And that's what I've heard people have a fear of, Oh, I don't want to become wealthy because then I'll be a mean or horrible person. They get that from movies and TV shows and books. It is not true.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah, I've often heard that, you know, money magnifies who you already are.

Rennie Gabriel:
Exactly. Same thing. Yeah. So if you're a good person, it only magnifies it. If you're a creep, it only magnifies it. So you're absolutely right, Brian.

Brian Kelly:
So let me tell you about this charity.

Rennie Gabriel:
That gets 100% of the.

Brian Kelly:
Profits.

Rennie Gabriel:
Other animal organizations and other veteran organizations also get money, but anything they buy through the website goes directly to shelter, to Soldier hunter. And like the books, the programs.

Brian Kelly:
Shelter to soldier.

Rennie Gabriel:
Rescues, dogs that would have otherwise been euthanized and trains them as service animals for soldiers who've come back with PTSD or traumatic brain injuries or other issues that would have otherwise committed suicide. And the suicide rate among veterans is about 20 a day, almost one an hour. And not one veteran who's gotten their service dog is committed suicide. So this charity is saving two lives at a time. Every dollar is saving a dog that would have been euthanized and a soldier that might have otherwise committed suicide.

Brian Kelly:
So that's you know what?

Rennie Gabriel:
I am very blessed to donate a lot of money to.

Brian Kelly:
That brought tears of joy all over my body. And I appreciate you for being a catalyst to make this happen. And, you know, I've got a warm spot. Always for our. Veterans. And those who have served our wonderful, beautiful country. No matter. What state it happens to be in at. Any moment in time, it's still ours and it's still the best country. In the world. And I appreciate that you're doing this to help those who have served us, who have kept our country safe. You know, they. They did this. Most of. Them were you know, no one gets drafted anymore and nobody has for many, many. Decades. So these were people that did this. On on purpose and for different reasons. But they did it. It was their. Choice to. Go out and go into. Harm's way for. All of. Us. And now they come back and they've got PTSD and they're. Traumatized and they're committing suicide when they should never. Oh, my gosh. What a wonderful, wonderful program. And I'm so glad. And I'm definitely I am going to be one of the first people after this show is over to go and get your book. And can we learn how to do that while we're on this site as well? Yeah, absolutely.

Rennie Gabriel:
Just go under products and anything you buy through the website, whether it's my UCLA program on buying apartment buildings, whether it's books program that talks about, you know, we'll talk about it later. But there's a nine step roadmap to complete financial choice and philanthropy. Anything that someone buys through the website, 100% of that goes to the charities.

Brian Kelly:
I love. It. And this. So think about this. Everyone that's watching and. Listening, you know what you what you can do with. A strategy like this, not just. For, you know, look, go reward yourself. Go buy something nice for yourself and give yourself that reward. But look at the bigger picture, what you can. Do if you so. Desire, and that is to live the rest of your life helping other people like Renny's Doing what a legacy he is leaving. What a beautiful thing he's doing by helping others. And that's all he's doing right now. And he's he's working hard and he's he's spending his time with me here right now. An hour. He doesn't have to do this. He has he can do anything he wants. He chooses to do. This because that's how he's. Wired. And he's the kind of people you will meet over and over and over again if you get in the right circles. And if you get associated with somebody like Renee, then he's associated and connected with people that are like minded as well. I mean, the person that that got us together, that referred him to me is also very like minded in that regard. And so it's an amazing thing that happens. This is so this. Is the book and it is an audio format. And here we go. Audiobook right on. That's what I'm getting. It's an MP3. I love to listen. It's fun fact. Renee, When I when I was younger, I didn't even know, but I didn't like reading, but only for the the reason that it irritated my eyes. I didn't even know that that was an issue. I just thought I didn't like to read. I read when I had to. I was, you know, near straight-A. In high school and all that good stuff. I had one B my entire high school career, so I had. No problem reading. I just didn't like it. And so when people kept saying, you should. Read, you should read, you should read, I'm like, I don't want to. And I realized after Audible finally came out, that shows my age. But Audible came out and I started listening because a mentor of mine was walking around with headphones and I said, What are you doing? He goes, I'm listening to a book. I said. What? What? You're listening to a book. Tell me about that. And that's how I read all my books now. And I'm like going through them and gangbuster speed and learning a ton from them. And so thank you for putting it in audio. Are you the are you the voice behind the book? I read the book because.

Rennie Gabriel:
If I gave it to someone else, I don't know if they would emphasize the areas that I know need to be emphasized.

Brian Kelly:
Thank you. I'm telling you. Okay? Renny, is it true? We must have been separated at birth with the exact same age. We're twins. Yeah. A brother from another mother. Look at this. Love it. Itty bitty. There. Oh, we're going to go on that in a little bit. Don't want to give away the big secret here, but yeah, write that down, everyone. You see it on the screen. If you're watching. Wealth on any. Income.com and actually just peruse all the links but definitely go to the products because what a great fantastic I mean it's like I see. An ad. On tunnels for towers or something like that. It's like a. Way to. Invest in but you don't get your return isn't of dollars, but it's of knowing that you helped a veteran who was, you know. Physically altered. Due to being in war, meaning they've lost limbs and other things. And it helps buy. Their homes. So I love anything that's related, and that's what this is. This is phenomenal. This is literally saving lives. That is amazing. Not a single person who has received a dog. Has committed suicide. That is unbelievably. Awesome. Man or woman.

Rennie Gabriel:
Didn't make any difference.

Brian Kelly:
So, yeah.

Rennie Gabriel:
Because, you know, I mean, granted, there's more mail there, more men, soldiers than women, but they suffer the same way from combat duty because they're allowed to be on the front lines as well. And the whole reason for this goes back to the Vietnam War, which now I'm dating myself, where, you know, I had high school friends who, you know, went to Vietnam and crawled through rice paddies. And, you know, maybe they came home with a colostomy bag or in a body bag. Meanwhile, I joined the Naval Reserve. I'm sitting on a ship. I'm eating at a table. I'm taking showers and I'm not crawling through rice paddies. I had it really easy during Vietnam when other people I know had it horrible. So, you know, they're out there allowing us the freedoms that we have here and.

Brian Kelly:
I feel I owe.

Rennie Gabriel:
Them so much. And so that's what it's about.

Brian Kelly:
And we all owe you, too, Renee. Thank you for your service. Because I'm of the opinion. It doesn't matter because. Oftentimes you don't get the choice of where you end up getting stationed. And then what? You know, are you in harm's way or not? Sometimes it's just luck of the draw. And then if you are put in artillery right in front of you, the luck of the draw of surviving is it's like I could not imagine what that would be like. I appreciate all of you. It doesn't matter. If if you sat behind a desk in a cushy. Office in the United States during all that, I am still very grateful and thankful to you for making that decision because you contributed to the safety of our country, whether it was putting yourself in danger or not, that doesn't matter to me. I mean, it it does. I don't mean to belittle those that did, but regardless, I am very thankful. And appreciative for it. So thank. You. You're welcome, Brian. Thank you. Yeah. My dad served in the Air Force. He never got into an airplane. He wanted to fail the physical due to some. Like. Visual, visual, weird looking thing. And his pupil he saw perfect. But they said, Nope, you're gone. And so they put him behind a. Desk with a soldering. Iron. And that's what he did. He just did communication equipment. So what I shouldn't say just I shouldn't say that's what he. Did without. That communication. Yeah. Without that communication.

Rennie Gabriel:
Equipment, people could.

Brian Kelly:
Die. Exactly.

Rennie Gabriel:
If they need reinforcements, if they need food, if they need munitions. It's that communication guy who gets that to them.

Brian Kelly:
And isn't it so such a parallel? You say wealth creation is a team sport survival and winning a war is a team sport. Yep. I mean, it's. All part of life. Yeah shows up everywhere. Yeah, that's. That's the one thing I've been lately on a soapbox about is that because I have only recently realized the sheer power and importance of getting help, and about almost two years ago, I got a bona fide virtual assistant full time. Like full time, not just part time. And wow, did it open my eyes in so many different ways. It also gave me a way to breathe, to relax. And people think I don't have the money. I can't afford to. It's like, look, you can't afford not to. Get the help and that I use this. Example all the time. Yeah as an.

Rennie Gabriel:
Example. Okay, Let's say, Brian, that when you're working with people, you're making 100, $200 an hour.

Brian Kelly:
Okay.

Rennie Gabriel:
And you're spending an hour doing bookkeeping work and you could hire a bookkeeper for $35 an hour. So instead of spending $35 an hour for someone to do it, you're spending 150 or $200 an hour to do it. Yeah, that makes no sense.

Brian Kelly:
Exactly. And the other thing I also realized is that once I had help, I used. To before I got help and. I'd had people coming at me left and right for odd jobs that were. Directly related. To my expertise. And I'd have to say no because I'm like, I don't have the bandwidth. I can't do it. Now it's like, wait a minute, I can offload that. Particular. Task. And a lot of it a big portion of to my team, I ask my team, how long is it going to take you? I do the math and then I raise the rate to make a profit. I do very little if any of the work and I make money, I'm like, Oh my God, where was it? Why didn't I do this before? So it. Changes everything. I mean, it only changes everything the way you think. Only that's all Yeah Only Yeah only everything. That's correct. And so now I'm telling folks build systems. Now, even if you're a solopreneur. Put start documenting your processes. Build the SOPs out as if you had a team until you finally pull that trigger. You know, there's no good time. Just like there's no good time to have a kid, no good time to get married. There's no good time for lots of life events because it just gets in the way with your plans. Just do it. Get help. And if you need a resource, a very affordable one that kicks butt for me, reach out to me. I'm not here to sell stuff, but I'm here to help. Just like Rennie. Rennie is like, I'm so blessed. Daniel Aaron, thank you so much. For introducing him. So phenomenal. My goodness. What have we got here? Oh, my God. We're only five minutes out from the end. You've got to be kidding me. Um. Okay. Um. Uh, yeah. Um. So you're serving small businesses and are you coaching them one on one or. Is it basically. Very rarely. Okay. I have.

Rennie Gabriel:
Self-study programs. That's primarily what I'm providing now. Um, I don't do a lot of coaching because it's selling time for dollars and I don't need to do that. But if I'm actually in love with someone and what they're up to and who they are, yes, I'll take them on. But it's. It's not easy for someone to hire me for one on one coaching.

Brian Kelly:
Totally makes sense and I completely get it and respect it both for sure. So that's phenomenal. Uh, let's see. Um. Goodness. Let's talk about a free gift. Yeah wanted to. Get another good hard heading question in in that is. Something that I like to I. Mean there are things that we all go through life. You and I have been on this planet longer than. Most. And during that time we. Make mistakes. And the beautiful thing is as you get older and learn more and become more successful, you learn that making more mistakes more often is actually important because it gets you closer to not making those mistakes anymore. But for you, what would you say would be one? I don't know if we call it a mistake, but something that you used to pivot. To say. I'm not going to do that again. It taught you to go the opposite direction that really had the most impact in your life going forward, whether it's personal or financial. What would be that one thing you say, Gosh, I wish I hadn't done it, but I did. And because of that, I now am doing this and it's caused all this greatness. You've kind of. You've touched on.

Rennie Gabriel:
It. And what it is, is I was in a seminar in my 40s and I think I've got 20 years on you, so no way. Oh, yeah. Uh, I'll be 75 this year.

Brian Kelly:
Holy smoke. Arino.

Rennie Gabriel:
Yeah. So it was a long time ago. I'm in this seminar and. I was a latchkey kid growing up, so there was no point asking for help. There was no parent there to ask help of. So I had this I made, you know, a child makes up stories and I made up the idea that the I'm responsible for myself and no one else is because there's no one else even here. And so that.

Brian Kelly:
Attitude of a five.

Rennie Gabriel:
Year old, don't bother asking for help. You got to do it all yourself. Operating a 40 year old's body is not effective. And I'm in this seminar and I needed help to do a pert chart.

Brian Kelly:
And I asked the people.

Rennie Gabriel:
In the seminar, you know, I need this help. I finally I.

Brian Kelly:
It's broke down from the.

Rennie Gabriel:
Standpoint of saying I'm going to ask for help. I did. And there was only one person in the program who offered to help me, but he happened to have been an engineer with an aerospace company. And what he did for a living was designed pert charts and flow charts.

Brian Kelly:
Wow. And it turned out to be the nicest.

Rennie Gabriel:
Guy in the world. And what I learned is not only is it okay to ask for help, but when you do exactly.

Brian Kelly:
What you.

Rennie Gabriel:
Need will show up. And that was life altering for me being willing to ask for help. That changed everything.

Brian Kelly:
Mhm. It does. And it's what, one word. One word that keeps us all from doing that. It's three letters. Can you guess what it is? That one. Word. Does it start with an E and end with an O? I think you got it. What's the middle letter, then? I'm kidding. Probably a G like Gabriel. Yes, that's right. Yeah. And that's, you know, especially. I don't want to pigeonhole male or female, but that's a big common trait of males, especially females as well. But, you know, we're we're the the provider, the protector. So we have that. Ego and we're all. That. And man, it's hard to break through that thick skull. And it was for me. But I'm telling. You, the second I started letting go of my ego habitually, that's when things started happening. And so it's it's interesting that one of the keys to success is letting go. Yeah. And letting someone. Else and, and be okay with it and trust. There are all sorts. Of great skill sets you. Can learn on how to bring in the right people, how to make sure that they are a fit for you, your. Company, your culture, your values and. All that, and definitely want to make sure you learn all that and put that into into. Practice before it's too late and you waste all your time with that. Individual. Then when you have that person, it's like, Holy, my gosh, It's just. It's ungodly. Wonderful. And it's more fun. It's more fun. You get to work with people. Bounce ideas off of them. And just it doesn't have to all be you. You're the owner of the company. You're the face. It will look like you did it all. You can have that ego for that if you truly need it, but you don't need it. Yeah. No, I. I tell my VA.

Rennie Gabriel:
All the time.

Brian Kelly:
She's smarter than I am. Mm hm. And I always say they never work for me. They work with me. Yeah, always. It's a team. Yeah. And. And, yeah, I love to give them a ownership, if you will. Every task, I say, just here's the minimal. I want a minimal instruction. Now go show me. I don't say go. Show me what you've got as a challenge. I just want to see what they have. And usually they crush it the first time out of the gate because they feel passionate. It's like, I get to do this, all right? And they feel a little bit of ownership in that. So, yeah, let's give away a gift. What do you say? A big prize? Yeah, let's do I usually do the the giveaway first. Let's give yours first. Okay? Yes, come first. You know, like. Ladies first kind of thing.

Rennie Gabriel:
Let's have a nine step roadmap to complete financial choice and philanthropy, which touched on it. If they go to wealth on any income.com/ted and the nine steps comes with 27 pages of explanation of those nine steps. That's the roadmap they're on the right. For those of you who are only listening, when you get to the website, you'll see it and I provide a weekly email to support people in their business with their money, in their relationships, in their psychology, in their mindset. So they get a weekly email every Sunday and they get the roadmap, the explanation. They got my TED talk. They're all set.

Brian Kelly:
I just have two words for you. Thank you.

Rennie Gabriel:
And you're welcome. Thank you for the opportunity to be of service to people.

Brian Kelly:
Yeah And I say that on behalf of not just myself, but everyone who gets the opportunity and the privilege to listen to you and to watch you. Hopefully they're watching on video and this little guy keeps coming out of nowhere. So fantastic. So that is at let's. See, wealth on any income.com/ted and remember the TED all three letters of Ted are. Capitalized the. X is. Lowercase. And oh my gosh I cannot wait to get that road map right after this show is over. So do this after the show. Remember, write it down now because I didn't tell anyone else this, but we like to end every show, Renee, with a very profound and provocative question. I've never used provocative before that. That's just a big word. And it felt good to say. I created.

Rennie Gabriel:
One as soon as you asked it.

Brian Kelly:
You created the question. That's great. Yeah, but it won't be the one I'm going to ask you. Sorry. Oh. Oh, Oh. I thought I had to.

Rennie Gabriel:
Come up with the question.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, that. Would. Hey, you just gave me an idea. That'd be really cool. Um. Did you. You said you just came up with one. Yeah. Okay, I'm game. Ask me, and then I'm still going to close the show asking you that profound question. Okay, Go.

Rennie Gabriel:
Brian, do you deserve to own some of the money you're earning?

Brian Kelly:
I deserve to own all of it.

Rennie Gabriel:
Okay, then you got to pay yourself first.

Brian Kelly:
Yes, sir. I love it. Cool. All right. That was a lot. That was good. Sweet. Like you said. Simple. Short, simple. I love it. The man lives, eats and breathes simple. And that's why he is where he is today. And that's. Phenomenal. Uh, real quick, I did promise everyone how they could win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort, and then we'll get to that last question. But I do like to keep to my promises and do it within our allotted time. We're a little bit over, but that's okay. I'm not paying for studio time. That's a beautiful part about it. And that is for everyone watching live, what you want to do is write this down, what I'm about to put up on the screen and then after the show is over, we'll still monitor and look for entries and we'll choose a winner. You will be notified automatically through email. So here it is. Get ready, pen and paper or notepad or whatever you use to take notes with. Get it ready. Here it is on the screen. What you want to do is write this down. Go to report forward slash vacation. Yes, that is a web address report, M forward slash vacation. And yes, it does work. It's all lowercase. And there's where you enter to win a five night stay at a five star luxury resort in any area of the world that you choose. You saw the wonderful display. Of all those choices earlier. In the show. I'm not going to go over those again now because I can't wait for this question. I hope. Renny, I hope you're ready. I got you. I hope you got your A-game there, brother, because this question can be a little bit personal. But here's the thing. The beautiful thing. About this question is there is no such thing as a wrong answer. Yeah, we'll see. It's impossible. I love it. I love it. In fact, the exact opposite is the truth is, the. Only correct answer will be yours. And that's because it's pertinent to you. And that's the only thing that makes it personal. It's nothing like getting deep into your personal life. It's just it will come out as you. To your core, your values. And it will be you and it will be beautiful and it'll be. Correct because there's no wrong answer. So with. All that. Are you ready? Hope so. All right, here we go. Rennie Gabriel. How do you. Define. Success.

Rennie Gabriel:
By having a family that loves you, that you're connected to having a wife, having children, having grandchildren, all of whom are celebrating in life and doing well, That's success.

Brian Kelly:
Um. Short to the point. Simple as usual. I love it. And I love you like a brother. I appreciate you very much, Renee, for coming on, spending your valuable time with all. Of us here tonight. And if you. Have one parting word, I don't mean literally of wisdom to provide those out there who are struggling, who are looking to figure it out, to get out of the rat race, to just make ends meet and start climbing out of whatever situation they're in. Is there one thing you can think that can get them that jump start. To move. Forward in their life and have a happier, more prosperous life so they can serve others?

Rennie Gabriel:
Have people around you that you respect who are far enough down the road and mingle with them, connect with them, stay with them. Learn from them.

Brian Kelly:
That guy right there, Rennie. That's the one. Yes. So go to his website. Go and get his courses. Absorb it. He's done it. He's been there. He's done that. Get his roadmap. You saw that earlier. A wonderful gift. And donate. Buy his book from his website. Yes, you can get it from Amazon, but if you get it straight from Amazon, the donation won't make it to where he has got it designated to go because it goes to Amazon. So get it. From his website. I'm going to I'm getting the audible. Book and I'm going to do that before this evening's over. And I highly. Recommend you all. Do the same thing. And I appreciate. You, Rennie, to no end. You have no idea. You're a blessing in my life now. You know, they say you can you can choose your friends, but you can't choose your family. And the bad news for you. Is you are now family. Thank you, Brian. I'm glad to be a member.

Rennie Gabriel:
Of your family.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, thank. You. Thank you. And I will call you brother. Definitely. There is no way you're 75 or getting close to it. No freaking way. You are. Yeah. Yeah. I feel a lot of people.

Rennie Gabriel:
1948 was a birth year.

Brian Kelly:
You're an inspiration on so many fronts. And that is yet. Another one. So thank you. You've obviously taken good care of yourself and. Thank you for being a great shining example in every way forward. I mean, you've you've admitted making mistakes in your life. We all have. We've all made them. But you did it publicly. You know, it's in your bio. I wouldn't say it's your mistake and yours alone. Divorce isn't done by one person. It's all that stuff. Thank you for being transparent, for being raw, for being real, and for sharing your wisdom with us here tonight. I cannot tell you how grateful I am. Thank you, my friend. My pleasure.

Rennie Gabriel:
Thank you again for the opportunity, Brian.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, my. It was the pleasure was all mine. All right, we've got to close this bromance down at some point. And so with that, I want to say on the on behalf of the amazing Renny Gabriel, I am your host, Brian Kelly. Of the Mind Body Business show. And we will be back again next week, as we always are, with another fantastic guest. Don't know. They have a lot to live up to now. We're going to see you. That's going to be. But until then, everyone do two things. Number one, go out and crush it so you can serve more people. And number two, above all. Else, please be blessed. That's it for me. That's it for Renny. Take care for now. We'll see you again next time. So long. Thank you for tuning in to the Mind Body Business show podcast at the www.TheMindBodyBusinessShow.com. My name is Brian Kelly.

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