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Brian Kelly:
So here's the big question. Our entrepreneurs like us who have been hustling and struggling to make it to success, who seem to make it one step forward, only to fall two steps back. Who are dedicated. Determined. And driven. How do we finally break through? With that is the question. This podcast will give you the answers. My name is. This. Just the mind body business. Hello everyone and welcome, welcome, welcome to the Mind Body Business Show. I say this every show, but again, we have a phenomenal, phenomenal show lined up for you tonight. And that is because of our guest who's going to come on. Robert White is in the House. This is one of those those secret stories that we're going to uncover and unveil. And you are going to be blown away and amazed with this man, what he's accomplished, his history of what he's done in his own in his own business. And the man behind the scenes of so many incredible things that we all take for granted today. This is going to be an absolutely amazing show. I cannot wait for you to meet him and you will very soon. Real quick, the mind body business show. It is a show for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs, and it is my distinct pleasure, mission and purpose to bring on amazing individuals like Robert White to help elicit their success strategies to get from them. What is it that has helped make them so successful in their life, in their business, so that you, the struggling entrepreneur, let's face it, we all struggle, even no matter what level of success. Yet you want to attain more success, their struggle involved. What if you could just eliminate a good part of that struggle by simply modeling someone else who has figured it out? That would be amazing. So take the shortcut to success, the shortcut to happiness, and do it authentically with character. And that's exactly what Robert White, that's what he epitomizes is authenticity and awesome character. I cannot wait for you to meet him. He's coming on, I promise. He's waiting for us. He's chomping at the bit. He's saying, Brian, stop talking.

Brian Kelly:
The Mind Body Business show. It is about the three pillars of success. I studied successful people for about a decade. Just successful people concentrated, focused on that. And what I noticed were these three pillars kept bubbling up to the top, this commonality, this theme. And it is the very name of the show Mind My that stands for mindset. That's one of the pillars to a person. Every one of these successful individuals that I studied had a very powerful positive and here's the most important part of it flexible mindset and then body to a person. They all took care of themselves physically and through nutrition. Hey, look, I'm not saying that they were either a bodybuilder as a man or a supermodel as a woman. They just took care of themselves. They kept moving. And the mind and body are a team. And I like to say the mind and body are your team. And then business. Business is multi multifaceted to to build a successful business, one must master various skill sets, skill sets like marketing, sales, team building, leadership, systematizing. I mean, I could go on and on and on. The thing is to master anyone's skill set can take a very, very long time. And not one of us walking this earth, in my belief, has enough time to master every single one that's necessary. So the good news, though, is if you were to master just one, just one of those skill sets, the rest can fall into place much quicker, much easier. And I'll tell you what, Robert White knows this one inside and out. That's why I'm so excited for tonight is one and I actually mentioned it. Does anybody want to know what it is? Anybody at all? Anybody want to comment, chat, respond? I'm going to tell you anyway, it is the skill set of leadership. The moment you have mastered the skill set of leadership, even as you're climbing that ladder to the point of mastery, you can start bringing in other individuals into your team that have already mastered those skill sets that you have yet to master yourself, or maybe never will master yourself. And now you assemble a team and you can get to that level of success much faster.

Brian Kelly:
Pretty good news. Pretty cool, in my humble opinion. I cannot wait to get Robert's opinion on that one because I am nothing compared to Robert when it comes to talking about the topic of leadership. And I'm going to be learning just as much as you are on this show. That's what I love. I love what I get to do. I love it. All right. So another fantastic quality, a very successful people I found out was that they were all to a person, very avid readers of books. And I might say some are authors, too. Maybe the current guest included. Yeah, he is. The cool thing is they are very avid readers of books and I didn't realize the importance of that till age 47. I'm 57 at the time of recording this and we're going live right now, and I didn't realize it until about ten years ago. With that, I want to segway very quickly into a little segment I affectionately call Bookmarks.

Announcer:
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Brian Kelly:
Yes. Reach your peak library. One quick word of advice. Quick, quick, quick. And that is, as resources are being given on the show, I know Robert's going to have many, many, many resources for you instead of going off and checking out these websites or other resources or books and looking for them. Instead of doing that, I implore of you, please, please, please, instead write them down and then stay with us. You do not want to miss one golden nugget that Robert is about to lay upon you trust me on this, please. I've spoken from stage many times and I've seen I know what I'm presenting when I'm going to get to the juicy part. And I look and I see one person get up and leave the room. And I'm saddened because that's the part that could have changed their life forever, not because of me or my knowledge, just because of what I was about to teach that I had learned would help them. And I would hate for that to happen to you just because your attention was grabbed by something else. So just take notes. I'm running this whole show and I take notes. Literally, I'm taking notes on the site. So I would advise and implore you to do the same for you, not for me. All right, that's my soapbox moment. I'm getting off now. The rich, your big library. Write that down and visit it later after the show. It's a resource, a website that I had my team put together with you in mind. This site is for you and I'm not kidding. I know it sounds cheesy, but what is on this site are all the books that I began reading at age 47 up till now, and I'm way behind on updating this list. But these are only the books that had profound impact on me, either in my business or my personal life or both. And so I decided to put them all together in a compiled spot so that you, the entrepreneur that is seeking success or seeking the next level of success from where you are now, you can go to one place where, you know, at least one other successful entrepreneur vetted these books, and it will just reduce the likelihood of you wasting time with a book that may not be all that great. That's and I'm not I can't promise that I'll give you the same impact they did me. But at least it increases the odds. And that's what we're all about as entrepreneurs, as efficiency. Yes. Yes. Speaking of efficiency and entrepreneurs and success, I'm telling you, I'm done talking. It's time to bring on the man. The myth of legend, Robert White. Are you ready? I'm ready. Let's bring him on. Here we go.

Announcer:
It's time for the guest. Expert, spotlight. Savvy, skillful, professional, adept. Trained, big league qualified.

Brian Kelly:
And there he is, ladies and gentlemen. Yes, it is the one. It is. The only. Robert White. Yes.

Robert White:
Thank you, Brian. It's great to be with you. And you know that kind of introduction you've given. I can't wait to hear what I have to say. You know.

Brian Kelly:
It's.

Robert White:
An old line, but I thought I'd throw it in there.

Brian Kelly:
I love it. I love it. And so I'm going to give you the introduction. You deserve the proper wonderful introduction you deserve. Real quick, a little bit of housekeeping before I do, if that's okay. Robert is you see that logo right over Robert's left shoulder? It's on the right side of the screen. It's the big insider secrets. They sponsor this show and they give us the ability to give you to give away through a drawing, a five night stay at a five star luxury resort. Again, compliments of the big insider secrets. You do not want to miss that. And we give you the information on how to enter to win at the end of the show. Near the end of the show, not all the way at the end. So stick on. And you know what? That's not the main reason why Robert White's the main reason you want to stick on all the way to the end. But this is an added bonus. And then a little birdie told me Robert White might have something for you, too. Ooh, that's juicy. It's going to be good. So a couple of quick announcements and then back to the man and the myth himself. But real quick. So if you're struggling with putting a live show together and it's overwhelming and you want a lot of the processes done for you while still enabling you to put on a high quality show and connect with great people like Robert White and grow your business all at the same time. Then head on over to carpet bomb marketing, carpet bomb marketing. Saturate the marketplace with your message. And one of the key components that's contained in the carpet bomb marketing series is one that you'll learn how to absolutely master. And it's the very service we're using right here, right now for this live show, The Mind Body Business Show. And over the course of gosh has been now ten years of live streaming. I've tried so many of these, quote unquote, TV studio solutions. I'm here to tell you that street smart is the best of the best. It combines supreme ease of use along with unmatched functionality.

Brian Kelly:
So write this URL down this web address. Write it down. Don't go clicking away, write it down. It's our WIP. I am forward slash stream live a little slower for our podcast listeners are WIP dot I'm forward slash stream live no spaces all together and all lowercase. With that, we're going to bring back the man and the myth and the legend himself. There he is. That's him, Robert White. And now I'm going to introduce him and finally let him talk. How's that? That's pretty awesome. Yeah. Brian talks too much. All right. Robert White is a speaker, author, leadership trainer and executive mentor who teaches the art and the art and science of mastering executive challenges. He specializes in integrating a heart centered, resolve, result oriented and transformational leadership approach to being effective. A lot of big words in there, Robert Manne. His experience includes founding companies doing high impact experiential. This is the key word experiential learning events with over. Listen to this. 1 million graduates, the best kept secret, I'm telling you. Robert White, he's been there and done that as a leader. Today, Robert mentors business leaders he shares about fostering entrepreneurial success and building an entrepreneurial mindset in established growth oriented companies. All right, at last, finally, this is it. Robert White is in the House and we're going to get busy. We're going to have some fun with Mr. White. This guy's amazing. I wanted to find out one thing real quick, Robert, and I'm turning it over to you. And that is one of the things I found in my 57 years on this Earth, is that all of our success, either where the success we've attained or the lack thereof, is all, can be attributed to what's going on between our two ears and that big, beautiful brain of yours. And I wanted to find out from you someone who's achieved immense success in your life. What is it that keeps you going every single day when you get up knowing that there are setbacks that can hit you and have hit you? And they've hit all of us, some more than others. But knowing that every day is an entrepreneur can be a struggle and a challenge.

Brian Kelly:
What is going on between those beautiful ears of yours when you get up in the morning? What keeps you driven and going? What is going on? I want to know, what is that mind? What is it telling you? What are you thinking and how do you achieve that never ending drive to continue to just to just crush it day in and day out?

Robert White:
Great question, Brian. And for me, it's a lot of it is based on my personal experience. You know, I was in my late twenties and I had a small sales business. I had a. I was late on payroll. I had had a divorce and felt very guilty about it personally. And I had had three heart attacks one at 19, one at 21, one at 23. So I had one semester of college and some just struggling in life, and a friend of mine went to one of the early human potential movement trainings out in California called Minded, and he came back. His life had changed for the better. His business started growing and mine wasn't. He also had adult onset acne, and for a sales guy, that's pretty damaging, you know, because his face was a mess and he had tried all kinds of things unsuccessfully. And in the about 90 days after he came back from that seminar, his business took off like crazy growth. His face cleared up and his marriage got better. And I'm watching this. So I went to that training and I went there with my kind of negative, cynical, screwed up head and walked out. And it's a cliche all these years later, but my life changed. And what I learned over time is that there's a framework that I attempt to operate from within and also that I and when I'm working with executives in growth oriented companies, is to work is to pay attention to, first of all, purpose. Why are we here on the planet? What is it that what is it that is unique about us that we have to contribute? Secondly, what's the compelling vision and the key word? There is not vision, but compelling. What is a vision that's going to attract others, that's going to bring the the banking, the vendors, the customers, the staff together and help you make your business effective. And then finally, what are your values and are you living them? You know, today young people can go online and check the culture of any company, almost any major company, and before they accept a job there. And the reason for that is and this is credited, of course, to Peter Drucker, but I think there were many people that said something similar, which is that culture eats strategy for breakfast.

Robert White:
The most important thing that I've found in in creating a growth company, a successful company, is to pay more attention to your culture than your product or your strategy or anything. Because the culture, the way things are done around here, that's the simple definition of of culture that that determines everything. In terms of your mindset, are you paying attention to your culture, your purpose, your vision, your values? And. And I'd add into that strategic intent, you know, you do have to put all of that into action. But that's what I've learned over time for myself. That's the framework I operate and make decisions from. And that's what I teach.

Brian Kelly:
I love that the culture eats. Strategy. For breakfast. That's that's my. And thank you for that reminder. I knew I was going to learn a lot from you tonight. And, you know, I always think that I put a lot of effort into the culture and my team and things like that. And I always then I'll look back and go, I could have done more. I could have done more. It's not about me. It's about the team. It's about them, and it's about the clients. It's not about, like you said, all the minutia and the turning up the crank, which has to happen, as you aptly pointed out. As far as the strategic intent, it's just. Thank you for that reminder, because I don't think many people have that focus in their business. That's not their primary focus.

Robert White:
You know.

Brian Kelly:
I personally.

Robert White:
Feel as the author of a personal development book, I hate to quote Stephen Covey, except that he said some really smart things in that Seven Habits book. And one of them is that distinction between what's important and what's urgent. And I think for me and for many business owners, we get so involved in what's urgent and so many, especially personal issues, and we forget what's important. Are we on purpose? Are we moving toward that compelling vision? Are we living our values? Those are the things we tend to kind of forget about. And then we're reminded and maybe we'll on it for a few days or maybe a few hours. But it's actually what causes big success in my experience.

Brian Kelly:
My gosh. I'm going through like 30,000 thoughts right now. Thank you. And that's a good thing. So Peter White is the greatest kept secret on the planet. He is the Tony Robbins before Tony Robbins. That's my my take on it. And he's an amazing guy. And I am so blessed to be able to be one person to help get that secret unveiled so people can learn who Robert White is. I mean, just the short period of time I was blessed to talk with you before we went live. I could tell immediately that you have immense character authenticity of your. You're a wonderful man. Are you perfect? No. And neither am I. And I'm never going to say anybody's perfect. I believe one person ever in the history that was in human form walked the earth. That was perfect, my humble opinion. But you put the bar up pretty high in my humble opinion, and I don't even know you that well. I just have this sense that you are. And look, I went I stopped you on your website. I was looking at all the things you accomplished and you have many times where it shows you on stage speaking. And I'm like, and I remember I told you before we got up, I said, I have to admit something, Robert, and I feel really bad about this, but I've never heard of you. How could that be? You know, after all the testimonials and all the people in the praise, I'm like, How did I not? Because I've been in the personal development space, I've gotten certified in NLP, I've taught it from stage and you know, I was like, How did I not know who Peter White was? And I'm just so grateful that I get to be one of the catalysts to help others to to learn who you are. Because I think it's a disservice if we don't together and you individually get out there and let people know who you are. Because it sounds from what I saw and what I've learned from you just in our short talk, you have a lot to give. A lot to give, and people need to know about you, my humble opinion.

Robert White:
Well, thank you, Brian. You know, in my when I wrote my book, first of all, for 20 years, people told me to write this book, Living an Extraordinary Life. And I had a million excuses for not doing it. You know, we're in the experiential learning business. A book is not experiential. I learned that a book can be experiential, but I had that story and I kind of got shamed into writing it by the success of the Seven Habits book, frankly. But I was so nervous because a book is a very public thing and I built those companies over the years, always from behind the scenes. My name was not on them. Life sprang arc international and now extraordinary people. My name still isn't on my company and I. I was so nervous. And then people like Ken Blanchard and Jimmy Curnow and people like that love the book and order lots of copies and endorse the book, all that stuff. And I had about 18 seconds of successful feeling, and then I started noticing that people were pretty consistently saying, I'm disappointed. I love your book, but I'm disappointed. And of course, I said, Well, you know what disappoints you? And they said, Well, the book's not about you. It's not about your extraordinary life. It's about your graduates and how they interact with the material in these trainings. And that's true, by the way, and what I didn't say at the time, but I'm getting a little more comfortable saying it. One chapter was about me. It just doesn't say that in the book. And the chapter is called something like the world's Most Limiting Belief. And that is, you are not enough. You are not enough. And that's about me. That's about my background. It's about how I grew up with an extremely angry and violent and critical woman, my mother, as the primary figure in my life. And she convinced me that I'm not enough. And then I went looking for evidence, which is what we do with a belief that she was right about that. You know, I was named most likely to succeed in a graduating high school class of 300. I had made more money as a senior in high school with a top rated radio show than my father ever made.

Robert White:
I supported my family after my father's death. And. And yet. I remember I telephoned my mother and I said, you know, I graduated number six and I'm most likely to succeed. Instantly, she said, Why weren't you number one? You know, so that's my background. We did a couch and a therapist here to work through all that stuff, but my journey has included realizing that I'm enough with my lack of discipline, my struggle with my weight. I've been incredibly good at getting married. I've been incredibly bad at staying married, you know? I mean, I've got a lot of weaknesses, but I've learned that I'm enough, that God put me here for a specific purpose. My job is to live out that purpose and enhance it, develop it, express it, all of that stuff. And to realize that then I'm enough and I've got something of value for others.

Brian Kelly:
That is what I call a bomb dropping moment, if there ever was one. We got smart bombs, knowledge, bombs, bombs of wisdom. I couldn't wait to unleash that. And if everyone gets nothing else out of the show, then what he just said is to tell yourself that you are enough. That is such a rudimentary, common, limiting belief that a lot of people have, whether they may think they do or not. There's a little bit of that always in every one of us, I think. And one of the greatest things you can do is go through processes to eradicate that limiting belief. And Roberts doing that, he's working on himself. And I think he's already gotten there. He believes it. He's he is good enough. And I would think enough people have told you by now that you are good enough. But, yeah, your your mom can be the most influential person in your life. And man, when you were saying that, there were parts of that I can relate to as well. So I feel for you. I had a little bit of stuff. We've got a couple people coming in. Louis Henry or Louis or Louis Louis. Henry Marsh says, Hi, Robert.

Robert White:
Oh, Louis. Henry is in Haiti and he's a very famous guy in Haiti. And he's a an incredible, incredible leader. And I can tell you that everybody in Haiti knows Louis and Ma's. Everyone knows him. Plus, he's tall and handsome, so I don't like him very much.

Brian Kelly:
I'll tell you, I feel. Like I'm literally living under a rock. There's two people I should know that I don't know. I've not heard of. I apologize, Louis, directly to you. But now I do know who you are. I'm going to have to go stalk you and see what you're all about. I love getting to know people, Robert. And especially when when someone like you talks highly of another individual. That's an instant like authority. You know, transfer of authority doesn't mean it left you. It's you're sharing it. And I do that with books, too. So you have a book, and I want to. I want to actually. Do you have a copy nearby, by chance?

Robert White:
I always have a copy in there.

Brian Kelly:
I love it. Yes. Let's get that. Let's get that zoomed in. There we. Go. Yes. So living an extraordinary life, unlocking your potential for success, join fulfillment. Where can people get that? This was not for this was not for Robert to come on and pitch. This is Brian helping him to get the word out. So if you wouldn't mind, Robert, how can people get a hold of that book?

Robert White:
Well, two ways. One is on my website, the Robert Whitcomb. It's one way and then I'm signing it. But it's also available, of course, on Amazon and all those other ways of buying books. And the Kindle version right now is outselling the paper version like 10 to 1. So that's available on Amazon.com.

Brian Kelly:
Fantastic. Yeah. And is that the one that took shaming to finally.

Robert White:
That's it.

Brian Kelly:
That's the infamous book.

Robert White:
You know, it's become a best seller in English and in Mandarin in simplified Chinese and traditional Chinese. And it's being translated into Spanish as we speak. So it's been it's been it's it's done. Well, I'm very proud of it.

Brian Kelly:
Good. Because you're the one who wrote it. I love it. And then is it also available on Audible? Is it there.

Robert White:
Yet? Unfortunately, no. I should have done that when the book was first released. And then more recently, a lot of ask people have asked about it. And I kind of think that at this point it's not worth the investment, but I may change my mind about that.

Brian Kelly:
I'm going to try to convince you to change your mind because I love Audible and you have a voice that would be perfect. I mean, you have a very soothing, deep voice. And I love it when the author themself reads their book versus. And it's okay if the voice isn't that great. I want to hear it from the person who wrote it because the inflections and everything, the heart, the emotions that were there when you wrote it, they come back out and it's just that much more experiential. Yes, I said it. Lewis is laughing at the fact that I don't know anybody that gets good. Deb Sant'agata. I hope I said that correctly. Great conversation, Brian and Peter. Thank you. Yes. And all the things goes to Peter for sure. My goodness. Robert, thanks for reminding me that I am truly enough. Love that Phenix Rising Travel Services. How are you doing again? And then go ahead and put your name on the next one if you want people to know who you are. I have no problem with that. Go ahead and put your name in there. Phenix, Rising Travel Services and then all my good buddy Don, he's becoming a regular. He's an amazing guy that runs a chamber of commerce here locally to where I live. And he is one of the greatest, most wonderful hearts on the planet and helps local businesses far beyond any other person I've ever known, especially where we are in our local community. So thanks for coming on support. And yet again, Don, you're an amazing guy. Yeah, yeah, I agree, Don. Many words of wisdom in this show. And yeah, it's because of this guy right there, Robert. He's amazing guy. That's why I love to I love what I get to do. Robert because I have amazing people like you, just knowledge, bombs, I mean, nuggets, everything. They're just continually coming out. And I appreciate you spending your time giving your value to people, your experience, your knowledge so that they can learn from you and advance quicker in their lives and with less pain, hopefully, because that's what we all want to avoid, isn't it?

Brian Kelly:
I know I do. So, you know, as when I was opening, I was talking about we you know, we've all been as an entrepreneur, it's kind of a roller coaster. It's not every day is great. You know, the first question I opened with was, you know, sometimes you wake up and, you know, there's arduous task looking ahead there. Setbacks are going to hit you. And through this whole course we go through all of us these I don't know if I'd call them failures, but road bumps, speed bumps, those are the kinds of things. What are some that you've had in your life that stand out? And more importantly, though, this is the key. Everyone, what did you learn from them? That is where the magic happens.

Robert White:
Well, the background a little bit of background for me is that that training that I went through, mind dynamics, training after it, I didn't understand the training. I just got value from it. I got what I needed to get and I went out and my little business tripled in size the year after that experience. It went out ten times the second year, and from that I got this gig in New York City being a contract sales manager and started making a whole lot of money. And instead of having the 30 people that I had in my business, I had 850 people in that team in New York. I could no longer interview everybody every week, which was my practice. So I started doing weekend seminars and I started bringing the local New York instructor for Mine Dynamics into my weekend seminars to talk about that work. And between the two of us, we enrolled over 400 people in my dynamics, so they found out about me and one day I got a phone call from the founder of that company. I didn't even know his name. He had to introduce himself and he said, I want you to come out to California at my expense. And I thought, Oh, I'm curious about that. And I a trip to California sounds pretty good to me. So I did it. And ten days later I was president of Mine Dynamics. So I had four years of running somebody else's company, but it was very entrepreneurial. You know, I had a lot of freedom to do what I was doing. And the first two years straightening out the US business, the second two years I set up five foreign operations for my dynamics, primarily in Europe but also Australia, and I got to travel the world as a young guy. It was an incredible experience and I learned a lot from the founder of Mind Dynamics. I went through the instructor training, finally started to understand the work that I was selling and and then ownership changed. I ended up working for a probate judge. It was an old. I'm sorry. I quit. And I. I founded this company called Life's Spring. I later sold it.

Robert White:
And the one country I had said no to was Japan. It was. The language is backwards, and biodynamics was a course that depended on a very precise use of language. It was the most expensive operating place on the planet for a training company because we have to have space. There's not much space in Japan and it's expensive and we were busy, so I said no. And they called me. You know, the Japanese are persistent. They called me like once a month for years. And after I sold last spring, they called and they changed their offer. They said, you know, I had put every penny I had into spring and know I had and I sold it to the staff for nothing down and forever to pay. I mean, the old joke is they took longer than forever to pay. So I was broke. I had a family, I had a mortgage and no job and no income. And the people from Japan called. They said, come for three months, set up a program here and you can leave and we'll pay you for one year. So. Wow. And that three month stay turned into the first visit almost 12 years. And so we formed a company that had eventually was in seven cities in Japan, two in Taiwan, Hong Kong, mainland China, Manila, Seoul, Sydney, and then back in the US. And then I fell in love. It's not a very business like kind of little transition here. But that led to my essentially partially quitting. And I moved back to the US, I moved to, I moved to Aspen, I, I built a 14,500 square foot home. I bought a jet, I was on six nonprofit boards. I traveled with the late John Denver for six months. Just, I mean, I skated 80 days a year, you know? I mean, life was good with the remarriage. We had two birth children plus adopted two special needs kids. So we were busy. And out of all of that, I lost control of my company. You know, when you have a professional services company, your assets walk out the door every night at five or 6:00.

Robert White:
You know, it's not like real estate or machinery and or our permanent clients. Now, you know, we had expanded to 15 training centers. We had 240 full time people, including 70 of these very well trained trainers and a bunch of contract trainers. I mean, we have done really, really well, which allowed me to have the wealth to be an Aspen guy for a while. But I lost touch with it. I stopped being the thought leader. I stopped being the the real contributor that people wanted me to be. And so in terms of biggest mistakes, I know that's kind of something you like to work on. The first biggest mistake is I got I got a phone call up in my lair in Aspen from my US company and and I had appointed a new CEO and he had set up a big meeting for the whole company, all the Asian leaders and US leaders. And he asked me to come down for the meeting and of course I did. And what I realized in that meeting is that we had built this incredibly successful business. Without a goal in terms of money. We worked on the passion for contributing to our graduates, and that caused incredible growth. That was part of our culture. And for the first time, he facilitated the setting of a big goal that we would grow two and one half times in five years. And I totally bought into it. So that was one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made in business. I upset our own culture. I got people focusing on numbers instead of people. Wow. Or I didn't do it myself, but I allowed it to happen.

Brian Kelly:
Right?

Robert White:
I bought it. I thought, Oh, great boy will be this really big player. We were already the second biggest training company in the world, the biggest in Asia by far. And so I screwed that up because these people that worked for a passion started drifting away from my company. And big mistake. And the second mistake was just not being engaged with the business, particularly in Asia. So that led to the failure of the business. What led to me losing $30 million and losing the big house and losing the jet and and having the love of my life leave me for a lawyer. So it was a very bad couple of years for me. And it included a lot of pain, a lot of suffering, a lot of pain for my children, especially. But it also included a lot of learning, a lot of growth for me. It was humbling. It was. It brought a crystal clarity to me about what I now teach others around purpose, vision and values and that strategic intent part. So, like so many things in life, you know, in order for there to be rainbows, there has to be rain. Well, it was a pretty much a typhoon that hit me for a while. And but I found out I can survive it. I can thrive after it. Yes, it was embarrassing. You know, I didn't just lose time and money. I lost reputation. Things. People people are graduates. Didn't know who I was, but the people in our industry knew who I was, and that was embarrassing. So that's how I got into mentoring and working with executive teams is teaching what I learned in that failure, but also teaching what I had learned in successfully growing that business.

Brian Kelly:
I mean, nothing impresses me more than that story. I mean, that you went through hell. It looks like you're on your way back. And the cool thing is, you were at cause for it all. You didn't blame it on anybody else. You said I bought in, I allowed it to happen. And that tells me a lot about your character and that you have figured out how to push that ego aside, because that ego can be the thing that brings us all down eventually. And just to have the wherewithal to say it was on me, I mean that by itself. But then you took it a step further and you said. You got the most learning and growth from it. And so there you go. That was you go through something horrible, but what is it you do about it is the key. And right here, you're you're getting the model for success. Everyone who's watching and listening, he just gave it to you is no matter what happens, you you have a choice and how you react. Are you going to are you going to crumble and give in, cave in and say, that's it, I'm done, my reputation is gone. I lost a lot of money. My wife, I lost. I mean, that's horrible. Robert. I wouldn't wish that on anybody. The way you responded to it is I can't imagine 1% of the human population would do what you did and what you're doing. And I commend you and appreciate you for coming out and telling everyone this. You're very transparent. And because of that, people are going to have renewed hope. They're going to know that, gosh, if Robert can do it, so can I. If he can come back, you know, I'm going through something recently now that I think still at this moment pales in comparison to all that you just went through in that short period of time. But we all have our moments. I think if we live long enough, we end up going through something and the decision we make on the other end that seems to make all the difference. So what are you up to now then? I mean, you're back into the rebuilding phase and getting out there now. It sounds like.

Robert White:
I'm I'm blessed to work with these incredible business owners and executives who want to live an extraordinary life. They want to balance and integrate their work and their personal life and their spiritual life they want at all. I mean, they're already way smart. They're already way successful. And yet and I find I work with two different groups of people, and this isn't because I planned to do this, it's just how it worked out. One group of my clients are people that are in some kind of trouble, you know, falling margins, competitive pressures, losing key people in all of the things that happened to growth oriented business people, but loosely described, something's a mess. You know, something's a problem that they're struggling with. The other group are the people that things are going pretty well. But when they honestly look at their business, their organization and themselves, they realize that either personally or in terms of their team, they are not adequate to the future that is possible for them. And they they have this incredible sense of how to win in their business. And it's all depending on the people, of course, and that they're not quite up to it. The people have brought them to a certain level of success, but that they're kind of stuck and and that they don't feel they can take on a new product line, a new geographic area to operate in something some major growth project. So those are two very different groups of people, but I love working with both of them. I've been in both of those places myself. And so I know a little bit about, first of all, the business challenge, but also about. Our mindset is underneath all business problems. That's a belief I have that consistently shows up. You know, people sometimes find me through my website when they do that. The message that they send through the website is time stamped. Guess what time it is for most of those inquiries? 1 a.m..

Brian Kelly:
2 a.m..

Robert White:
And I totally identify with that. These are people that are staying up late. They care about their business, about their people, about what's possible. Some of them are worriers. Some of them are just concerned. Some of them are angry. You know, they have all kinds of emotions, but they're still up at one or 2 a.m. thinking about it. They're not sleeping well. And before they turn to drugs or alcohol, I hope they call me.

Brian Kelly:
And another thing, I think another trait of those are they're very passionate and they love what they do and or the people they're working with and for. And that's a I mean, we don't want to make that a habit, but it's a testimony to them and their commitment to making it happen. But I can relate to it to my God. Oh, my. I've had many of those nights. Oh, we have a name. We have a name to Phenix Rising Travel Services. It's Cynthia Perez from Monroe, Georgia. Thank you, Cynthia. And someone else you might know, I don't know. Michael Taylor. He says, Hello, Robert.

Robert White:
Michael Taylor. Michael Taylor is an author of seven or eight books. He's an incredible leader for black men and for any band interested in growth and development. But he was a spring grad. That changed his life. That changed his life. And we've become dear friends. I actually got to write the foreword of one of his books, so but he's he's another one of these tall, handsome guys with a gorgeous wife. So I don't like him very much, but I certainly admire him.

Brian Kelly:
I know we all know that isn't really true, but that's funny. And just for our podcast listeners, Michael said, Hello, Robert. Life Spring was the most transformational program I've ever participated in. So that's phenomenal. And that that program is no longer in existence. Or is it another company running that.

Robert White:
It's split into lots of little companies all over the place, but doing this similar work. And so the good programs are available. There's a new one in Denver, Colorado, called Convergence that says brilliant people behind it. But all over, all over the world, versions of Life Spring are being taught.

Brian Kelly:
Excellent. And what are you working on now?

Robert White:
My primary thing is to I want to create a stable of business people that have integrated their professional work, their personal life and their spiritual life, and that are working less and producing better results and contributing back into their community. I believe the future of our country is around people, people spiritual growth, and they're freeing themselves up to contribute their gift in a broader on a broader stage. And I think I'm not very excited about politicians and I'm very excited about what small and medium size business people can do. You know, you mentioned your guy with the Chamber of Commerce. It's, I believe, pretty strongly that it's these local people who are using their gifts and service and at the same time being an example of what is possible. When you do get clear about purpose, vision and values, and you get out in the community and share your gifts, your leadership gifts. So that's what I'm up to.

Brian Kelly:
I love it. And I hope that I wish upon you extreme. Ten times wealth that you had in the past. And I'm actually really serious. I want you to really become financially overwhelmingly successful because I know that, Robert, what you'll do with it this go round is you're going to scale it. You're going to figure out a way to make to impact more people with it and just change more lives for the better. And so, you know, a lot of people go, why would you want somebody else to make millions? I'm like, I want everybody that comes on my show to make a lot of money because I know what's in their heart. And ultimately, look, it's okay if Robert buys a jet, he deserves it. So let's not be judgmental about stuff like that. But he's also going to reinvest and grow the company after what he's been through. I can only imagine just grow, maybe hand it off, nurture, mentor someone else or multiple someone else's to scale it as well. But I'm just so blessed and honored to be sharing this virtual stage with you. I know it's my show, but this is really I'm I'm really blown away. I mean, after I looked at your website and saw all of this, I'm like, how could I have never heard of this man? I'm still kicking myself for that. I'm glad you're now getting out there and making your voice heard in your name known. And I'm just glad to be part of that for you and with you, Robert. So anything I can do going forward, just please at any time, reach out and say, Hey, bro, I need something. Can you help me out?

Robert White:
You're very good. Thank you. Thank you.

Brian Kelly:
Absolutely. And you know, you just ring true with giving value. Small business people that are serving that's I was just interviewed earlier yesterday and that was our entire it was an hour of talking about that. It was awesome. And it was about not it's not about it's not about the money. The focus should be on helping and serving. The money comes as a result. Yeah, you need to make money. I mean, that's a given, but it's not all about the clothes. It's not all about the sale. It's about, you know, on this show, people ask me, how do you make money on your show? I said, I don't do it for the money. I don't do it for any money. In fact, I do it to make a relationship. And oftentimes I have become the client of the guest speaker. So it's not about me making money. It's about connecting with people. And maybe I can help them or maybe they can help me. Either way is just fine with me and I just love what I get to do because of that. And so when you were saying all that, it runs so true with me. I appreciate the way you handle and approach things in life. And yeah, so next time you get that 30,000 square foot house, I want a personal invitation.

Robert White:
You got it.

Brian Kelly:
I'm afraid of debts. I just want to write in one.

Robert White:
You know, the interesting thing about that, I heard this said about people that buy boats. You know, the moment you buy a 30 foot boat, you want a 50 foot boat. You know, I had only been in my jet. It was a hawker 400, you know, a nice jet. You can stand up in it. That was always my teasing with John Denver was he had this hot rod, you know, a Learjet 31 and faster than my plane, but you couldn't stand up in it. And, you know, it wasn't as deluxe in some ways. And I had the one that was bigger but slower. Within two weeks of the enjoyment of my new jet, I got to ride in Mel Simon's challenger, 600. You know, it's a regional jet. You could probably put 50 people in it. But he had of course, he had a bedroom. And yet and, you know, and I wrote in it coming back from Mexico and.

Brian Kelly:
And.

Robert White:
It for for a moment at least, that boat thing came up for me, you know where. Oh, now I want a bigger jet. So but actually, the jet or the big house, look, money is about for me is about freedom. Yes. And I want to make more money. I have some things to do. I have a daughter who was born addicted to crack and who is going to need care for the rest of her life after I'm gone. So my former wife and I have set up a trust for her, and I want to fund it, you know. And I found out it costs a lot of money to support somebody like that after. So I'm working on that. And but I'm big on freedom. I'm big on personal freedom. I'm freedom for you, Brian. Freedom for the people I love and the people I've never met. I'm looking at, you know, Lewis Henry texted in Lewis Henry is trying to bring freedom to Haiti, to the whole nation. I mean, it's a job so big that I can't even imagine doing it personally. But he's that's his commitment. That's what he's up to. And those kind of people, I want to be able to support them. You know, they need a little money. They need some seed capital. They need a little they need some more training that I can't do because it's in French, you know. But there's a lot left for me to do and for you to do and for all of us to do to first of all, to maximize our personal purpose, the reason that God put us here. And then but secondly, to maximize our group contribution and leave the world a better place. You know, John Denver and I did a lot of things together. You know, he always wanted me to take flying lessons. I kept telling him I would kill somebody, starting with me. So I'm not doing that. He wanted me to fish. I said, Why would I stand there? You never catch any fish, you know? And there was all this kind of stuff. But the thing that we agreed on was that we were here to contribute. We're up to something. And he did it through through music and and his commitment to the environment. And I did it through this work that I do. And I want to help other people see what their gift is and then contribute it. That's that's the juice. And this thing for me.

Brian Kelly:
I love it. The juice. And I love that you said money is freedom. Thank you so much for that bomb dropping money.

Robert White:
Oh, I love this. I love these.

Brian Kelly:
Bombs. Yes. Smart bombs. Bombs of wisdom, knowledge bombs. I forgot. There's one I need to add their value bombs. Another guest pointed that out recently and oh my gosh. I mean, I often say the same thing. I use a word called liberation. It's all about being liberated. It's the money doesn't buy you freedom, but it enables you to be free. That makes sense. And so I'm the same way. It's not about money for money sake and for it's nice to have things and stuff like that, but it's really about having the time freedom to do what you want, when you want. And for entrepreneurs like you and I, that I just I'm wired to help people. You know, people say, when are you going to retire? I said, I don't even know what that word means. What does that mean? Until my heart stops beating or I'm unable to help people, I'm going to do something. I will go back. You know what? Crazy. I had nothing to do. And you know about that whole I love the story about the boat, you know, and then the next size up. So let's look at it this way. If you Robert were to achieve and let's let's imagine that this existed there is a ceiling and you just hit it you just hit the ceiling. You can't go any further up and you've hit the epitome of success. There is nowhere else to go. Would that be a fulfilling life to have nothing else to look forward to looking upward and saying, That's it, I'm stuck.

Robert White:
No, I know. I love the journey too much. And if everything is working perfectly, I'll probably screw it up so I can fix it.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, man. Oh, that's a great quote. Oh, wow. Oh, okay. Yeah. So your buddy Lewis is chiming in. He says, thank you, Robert. I am humbled. And then he's got a word of something he's asking for help in is like, you can train me and others who speak English. We will train the. French and Creole speakers. So it's all. About having solutions to problems. I love. It. Yes.

Robert White:
If anybody is familiar with Haiti, actually the name Mars is a very famous leadership name in Haiti. Lewis Henry comes from a long tradition of leadership, and he has stepped into it. He takes more risks in a day than I do in a year. So one of my heroes.

Brian Kelly:
God bless you, Lewis. And, yeah, I'm sure he's gotten this many times. Any relation to Bruno? Oh. He's never heard that before, I'm sure, in his life. I have to.

Robert White:
I have to admit, I've never seen Louis Henry dance or sing.

Brian Kelly:
Maybe there's one thing you have on him right there. Oh, we have a great question here. Will Wu wants to know, he says, are there any business community development centers which have a whole group of spiritually conscious leaders involved in us or the world?

Robert White:
Look, I've been donating some time and effort and energy to an organization that's called Living a Better Story. So. Well, you can go delivering a better story. Dot org. Org. It's a nonprofit that brings. Spiritually oriented people that don't necessarily belong to a church or a synagogue or a temple or.

Brian Kelly:
Or.

Robert White:
A mosque, but they share a connection to God. They share a connection to everyone. And they want to they want to create a better world. And so that's my new tribe. I've met the most incredible people. We do a four day program about every three or four months, four days where we come together, make some personal breakthroughs and also connect with each other and realize that we're we're a new tribe and that we're up to something. So that's one I think you might want to check out.

Brian Kelly:
So write that down. Living a better story. Dot org. Be sure to write that down and go visit it after the show is over because we're not done with Robert yet. In fact, I've asked him behind the scenes, we're going to go an extra hour. And no, he doesn't know that. And I'm kidding. But we could easily with all the juice that this guy brings. And then. Louis is saying, I hear you, Brian. I cannot imagine retiring what retiring means for me either. And he was laughing earlier. And yes. And Will said, thank you. So appreciate that. Well, for throwing out that question. We love audience participation. Holy moly. I just said we're going to go another hour and I just realized we're only 3 minutes out from the end, which doesn't mean we're 3 minutes out because I don't have to pay for studio time. We can go a little over if you're okay, Robert. Not a ton, but I want to respect your time as well. But there is one question I love to ask every guest. It's a doozy. I love it to end every show because that's how you that's how you that's how you finish. Right? You finish strong. And the thing is, though, I did promise everyone and I haven't forgotten that you would be offered a way to win a five night stay. There it is at a five, not five night lecture, a five star luxury resort. I'll get it all. Compliments of the big insider secrets. You see the logo right up there over Robert's left shoulder. Jason asked my good buddy who runs that company. He gives us the ability to do this every single show. So it's an amazing, amazing gift. And I'm going to give you the information on how to do that right now, how to enter. So for everyone watching live, that's for only you watching live. So if you're not watching live, you're listening to this afterwards you want to come to the mind body business. Dotcom Yes, the word is in the front, the mind body business. Dotcom And there's a place at the bottom you can just opt in and we'll give you an automatic notification every time we go live.

Brian Kelly:
You can opt out anytime you want, but then you won't miss the great vacation giveaway next time. So for those of you that are here, here we go. Remember, write this down. You don't need to do this the second. Whoever is there first is not necessarily going to win. It's a random draw. All right, so write it down. Here it is on the screen. It is our WIP dot. I am for vacation. That is the website you want to type into your browser address our ip dot im for vacation, write that down and then after the show is over, go ahead and enter. We monitor for all of the submissions well into the evening, not till 1:00. Like Robert was saying, one of the people he knew did thankfully. But go ahead and write that down. And then we do have another gift. But you don't want to go away because this one question I'm about to ask him. If you miss that, you could miss the whole show. I'm not kidding. It is that profound. It is an amazing question. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, it's a buildup. Like there is no other buildup, I'll tell you. But a little bird told me. I told you that a little earlier that Robert himself had a gift that he would like to share with you. So I'm going to pull that up and I'm going to also pull up your website, Robert, so you can talk to it as I scroll your website and people and get a view of your website. But I wanted to go ahead and do that, give you the opportunity to discuss what that wonderful gift is. I'll put that on the screen too, and take it away.

Robert White:
Well, if you're running something a charity, a nonprofit or a for profit business, I offer a 30 minute issue based consultation with no obligation and no fee. So you click on that. We compare calendars, we set it up and but bring an issue with you, a problem, an opportunity, something you're working on. So that's that's one gift. The second thing is that. A number of years ago, we discovered that we had a full money back guarantee all of those years and less. About one and a half percent of the people that took the training asked for their money back. So that's pretty high percentage of of success. But so most people are getting incredible value, but some people were taking that value. Oh, hearing that, there's my book. You want to buy something? I'll sign the book and put it in the mail to you. And you can order online. So. But we started studying the people that grabbed the gold ring, that took that experience of the training and put it into action in a way that was just incredible. And so it's a 28 page document about what we learned about that and with some self assessment tools built into it. It's free. Just sign up for my weekly ezine. An extraordinary minute. If something that comes to you once a week, it's some timeless wisdom. Plus my thoughts all. Read it in one minute or less. So it's a it's a good reminder, but it's a way for you and I to get to know each other and to connect. And that connection is everything for me, whether we end up doing something together or not. And, you know, you can reach me via the email or via the website. The easiest way is Robert at extraordinary people.com. That underlying company, Robert at extraordinary people for public speaking or to explore whether or not we'd be a good partner in terms of working together. And so that's it.

Brian Kelly:
So where can folks get that easy. I did see that but I don't recall which.

Robert White:
Yeah. The ezine and the 28 page pdf which is also sharable by the way, it's not protected. So you can send it to family and friends or colleagues and that's all on this site. Okay.

Brian Kelly:
I did. I did see it. So just you know what? I'm talking to the audience. Do yourself a favor and just click through every one of those links. That's what was so unbelievably compelling. What a beautifully put together site, not just esthetically, but the information. It was an attention grabber for me just because I kept staring at this guy named Robert going, How the heck do I don't know this guy's name? How do I not know this guy's face? This is I mean, just evidence after evidence of all the people in the lives he's impacted positively. I mean, I'm going to be going in for all of these things and buying the book. You're one of those rare individuals, Robert, and you just you have I don't want to say that it factor. You've got more than it. You've got a multiple of it. And yeah, so I would recommend anyone that has felt a little bit of nudging like, you know, this, this might be the direction I should go if that's you at all. Then dove in, get the book, do the, get on to the issue. So the issue call, I put a link shortened in there for you Robert, because the one we had was too much to read on the air so you can get there by going to the website our wip i for slash issue all lowercase once again and that will go straight to his only scheduler. And that's where you can get that that complimentary obligation, no obligation 30 minute conversation with him. And thank you, Robert, because time is the most precious commodity we all have on this planet. And you're giving away 30 minutes out of junk to anyone who wants it. And for those who do take advantage of that, I just want to ask you one thing, and that is, please treat it with the utmost of respect for Robert and his time and come prepared with an issue like he said, please come with an issue. That's what the. Purpose of the call is. What is what are you struggling in? Let him know, you know, cry on his shoulder. Don't cry, though. Don't cry. Just.

Brian Kelly:
Just tell him what's wrong and let him help you. But give him something. Let him know, Hey, I've got an issue. Don't go in with an ego saying, Oh, I don't have an issue. I've got it. Been going well then you shouldn't be calling him if that's the case. Right. So that's where I'll leave that so fantastic. And then I want to put up your website front and center so everybody can figure out how to get there. The Robert White dot com. We're not done yet. I didn't forget about that question V Robert White dot com one more time the rubber wait dot com so it's not hard to not hard to spell thank you Robert for getting a normal name. I love that some of these have been tongue twisters. I tell you that I've had in the past. So that's fantastic. But now we've reached that time, that wonderful time, of that very profound and incredible question that I like to end each show with. Yes. Deb, it is Deb Sant'agata. Gosh, I just know I'm not saying that. Right. Is this actually being recorded? I would like to share it. Yes, definitely. It's all over the place. It's on Facebook, multiple pages. You can find it on Robert's Facebook page, multiple pages of mine profile, LinkedIn, Twitter, YouTube, Twitch, Cloud, Hub. It just keeps going on. There's more. Rumble, I think, is on there too. We're on a lot of platforms live and they're all automatically recorded, so definitely. Or you can go to the mind body business, show past shows on the upper nav bar and you'll see it there tomorrow. Sometime tomorrow his show will be posted there, but it's got the fully transcribed all the transcription will be beneath it and the words highlight as we talk so you can read it if you don't want to listen. Or maybe your boss is nearby and you're watching it at work. I wouldn't recommend you do that, but but just want to help you out with that. So thank you for that question, Deb. And yes, that was a perfect time to pause to make Robert Sweat even more.

Brian Kelly:
What is this question? So there's no sweating needed, Robert? And here's the beautiful thing about this question. There is no such thing as a wrong answer. Oh, it doesn't exist. So here's the thing. The exact opposite is the case is the only correct answer is yours. Isn't that cool? There's no way to fail on this one.

Robert White:
And you've built up the tension for a long time, and now you're faking like it's going to be just easy. So I get.

Brian Kelly:
It. I love it. He sees right through me. Isn't that great? Yeah. But the cool thing is, though, even if it takes, you know, some people will get the answer like this. Others will think and ponder for several seconds or even a minute. That's okay. Because that answer is your answer. That's what makes it perfectly fine. It's right no matter what the answer is. So with all that buildup, we're finally at that moment. So, Robert White, are you ready?

Robert White:
I'm ready.

Brian Kelly:
Here we. Go. All right, Robert White, how do you define success?

Robert White:
I'm going to borrow from the the great Earl Nightingale and say that it's a the progressive realization of a worthy ideal.

Brian Kelly:
Can you expand on that?

Robert White:
Well, it progressive, of course, means that it's ongoing. And the worthy ideal part of it is it's not just about money. It's something that has some kind of intrinsic value to you and others, and that might be becoming the best plumbing supply company in your town, if that. And because we all need plumbers. Right. So it includes two things. It's progressive. You know, it's not you never get there. You never you're never finished. And it's a worthy ideal. There's some value in it for yourself, beginning with yourself, your family, your community, your colleagues, your employees, and for the nation, for the world. That's success. For me, it's more open. It's not I mean, you know, I mean, I've done so many goofy things for the nouveau riche. I mean, I bought a maserati, Quadro Porta and drove it in Japan. I our company car was a rolls, you know, I went through that kind of stuff and and I highly recommend it. Incredible experience. But the real value came from the progressive realization of a worthy ideal. Our vision, our compelling vision for that company and my my compelling vision for my life is one world, one people to enhance, celebrate, create connections. And that's a worthy ideal for me. And it attracted a lot of people, wonderful people, to my company and as graduates and as friends. So but it's different for everybody. But I think that bigger picture. The progressive realization of a worthy ideal. If that's your frame. What you put into that, I think, has the potential of being of bringing joy and satisfaction and fulfillment to your life.

Brian Kelly:
Very well stated. And you know what's going to end this, don't you?

Robert White:
I love that little effect.

Brian Kelly:
Oh, that has been awesome. Robert, you are just an amazing individual. And having gone through what you've gone through and where your attitude is today, you're unstoppable, which is a great thing. And I can't wait to learn more from you directly and also to help you in any way I can. And I just wanted to give you a kudos and a big, massive dose of appreciation, appreciation for keep it in there and keep it in the fight. And then also spending all this time with us here tonight and helping others to improve their lives by getting the word out that Robert White is the man behind the curtain of all the wonderful things that we take for granted for today when it comes to personal development and leadership training and everything that goes with it. So, Robert, thank you, my friend. You're just a gem. I appreciate you, brother.

Robert White:
You're welcome. I really enjoyed being with you, Brian, and I hope that our listeners and viewers reach out and that we connect in some way that works for me.

Brian Kelly:
Fantastic. There you have it. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of the amazing Robert White. I am your host, Brian Kelley of The Mind Body Business Show. We'll be back again next week with another phenomenal guest. They have a big oh, my goodness. They have big shoes to fill after Robert. I'm sure they'll be fine, but big shoes nonetheless. With that, I love to say goodnight all and be blessed. Thank you for watching. We'll see you next week. So long, everybody.

Robert White:
Good night.

Brian Kelly:
Thank you for tuning in to the Mind Body Business Show Podcast. At WW w the mind body business showed. My name is Brian Kelly.

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